http://attitude.co.uk/a-lot-of-gay-men-are-gay-men-as-a-consolation-prize-because-they-couldnt-be-women-says-trans-author-juno-dawson/
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/juno-dawson-attitude-magazine-interview-transgender-gay-man-lgbt-trans-woman-a7752701.html
Juno describes her identity as a gay man as a ‘personal misdiagnosis’, and believes that it is a more common phenomenon than one may think. “I think that there are a lot of gay men in the world who had the same personal misdiagnosis, because we didn’t have the information that we have now,” she says. “I think there are a lot of gay men out there who are gay men as a consolation prize because they couldn’t be women. That was certainly true of me.”
This may seem like a controversial statement, but it is something that Juno has experienced since she came out as trans. “I would never deem myself fit to tell anybody what their gender is,” she affirms. “What I will say is that, and I think this is true of all trans people, once you are an out trans person, you become like a helpdesk.
“There are two or three gay men who have come to see me and said: ‘Oh, I think I should be trans but I don’t want to do anything about it. It’s too hard, I’m too old.'”
>>8336603
HSTS hons are cancer.
>>8336603
>hstses don't transition late, they said
>hstses only transition if they'll pass, they said
>>8336603
She's right
>>8336857
I think trannies are autistic and live in a fucking fantasy if they think this is true.
>HSTS
Ain't real.
Stop believing in postmodernist lies
>>8336867
So only crossdressers are real?
>>8336861
not trannies, just autistic straight trannies.
just like straight women and gay men they are bad bitches.
androphilic brains are bitches.
>>8336869
no.
just trans women are real women.
just like real women trans lesbians (gynephilic) are naturally more masculine than straight trans women, but not less real.
>>8336876
>just trans women are real women.
Correct, trans women are real women, gay men aren't.
HSTS is not real. Gay men are not women and are not trans.
>>8336872
>androphilic brains
>>8336876
most trannies are extremely feminine extremely neurotic gay guys with really bad BDD IMHO.
>>8336883
>Gay men are not women and are not trans.
this, this the only truth, blanchard is a hack.
>>8336887
>Implying most trannies are straight
>implying most trannies have androphilic brains and not ambiphilic brains
lmao.
>>8336900
Gay as in they are biological men attracted to other biological men. Stop trying to fuck with my head.
>>8336603
>I think that there are a lot of gay men in the world who had the same personal misdiagnosis
Gay men could say the same to her.
>>8336904
i'm not saying gay men are women.
i'm just saying gay men are naturally feminine like straight women, not because they are women but because they have androphilic brain.
femininity/masculinity =/= gender identity and brain gender
cis lesbians (gynephilic) have masculine brains, compare to straight women but still, their brain is feminine in the parts who decide gender identity, the same for trans lesbians, trans lesbians and cis lesbians brain are identical if trans lesbians don't go through wrong puberty.
gay men brain is feminine but still is a male brain very different to straight women brain.
gay men brains basically are intersex brains in SOME areas, their brain still is male even if this feminized, the same for lesbians.
>>8336932
Gay men, to me, are hybrids who exist somewhere in between straight women and straight men in femininity. I do not believe brains can be masculine. Bodies can be, voices can be, but there is such a big cultural factor in that presentation I do not think we have the neurology anywhere closed to nailed down.
>>8336932
You're not going to get through to them.
>>8336603
only gay men?! wtf I'm prefer women & want to be one too
>>8336932
I don't think even if for the sake of this argument we assumed gender is entirely neurologically based that ANY biological men are close enough to women physically or in their mannerisms or behavior to fully be understood as women. I can understand gaining comfort in being seen as a woman but none ever in the vice versa.
>>8336932
I do not like his politics, but I would really like him to hold me like that.
>>8336603
The person in OP gave me such bad BDD, it made me paranoid about my emaciated body and convinced me to repress as HSFB longer
>>8336603"
>"AAPs are AGP!"
Yeah, no
>>8336603
>>8336834
>>8336847
Kek I knew it. Yet the gendercritical crowd whines about transing the poor innocent gay men! Maybe those desisters arent as cis as previously thought.
Christ im an AGP, I didnt magically become cis, I just knew to keep my mouth shut and try to act cis. You could say I settled for being a straight man.
>>8336603
ayy lmao
>>8337832
But you pass better than her already, heck you pass better than me already.
>>8338314
I feel like I'm not any better than them and that makes me sad
>>8338329
I mean how could somebody be okay with transitioning like this?
>>8336603
I'm a gay man and I love being a gay man and have no desire to be a woman.
I wanted to be a girl as a child but I grew out of that.
I have no desire to be a straight man either.
This AGP is just a freak.
>>8338344
You're a dessistant HSTS.
>>8338339
Looks like an elf. An unattractive elf.
>>8338339
That's pre-FFS, right? Her chin is completely different.
>legendary HSTS hon
Whoa.
>>8338743
more common people think!