17 Signs I Was Transgender But Didn’t Know It

Wow 17/17!!
Relate SO much to this hun!

xoxo
Zena

>For 39 years, I did my best to live my life as a man
Stopped reading right there.

>>8333127
>I know exactly what you are talking about, hon.

I only had like 6 of those. Some of them are oddly specific, like loving the song "Lola"

>>8333256
This is what happens when you try to justify your agp fetish with bullshit excuses.

>>8333127
The bit about the song "Lola" reminds me of the weekend in high school I got obsessed with the song "Rocky Raccoon" and couldn't put my finger on why
>Her name was Magill
>And she called herself Lil
>But everyone knew her as Nancy

A girl with more than one name....

>having entry level pleb shit taste in music
Never.

>>8333256
>like loving the song "Lola"
So AGP it hurts

God damn these late transitioners are so creepy

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>>8333292
>tfw you just envisioned the characters in the song as furries with the main of course being a raccoon

And people say AGP isn't a thing

>tramp stamp

so... this is the power of hons... not bad...

>1. I was obsessed with the song “Lola” by The Kinks.
AGP
>2. I thought Playboy was a genuinely interesting magazine (even as a very little kid).
Super AGP
and straight male-ish
>3. I’ve always loved women’s bathing suits.
This seem neutral but I bet he wanked in those like the AGP fetishistic straight male he is
>4. I was repelled by the words “trans,” “tranny,” “transvestite,” and “transgender.”
Wtf? How is that relevant?
He's got obviously issues.
Probably a latent tranny chaser.
>5. I hated girls’ toys (and the color pink) as a kid.
That's very specific and proves absolutely nothing
>6. Spas were always my idea of a good time.
EVERYONE wants to treat themselves from time to time
This isn't trans-specific
>7. I was deeply sensitive on the inside, and hard to get to know on the outside.
Insecure straight man who is unable to express his femininity
>8. I loved looking in the mirror, but avoided being in front of a camera.
Okay
The second part sounds very trans-specific but the first part is very AGP
>9. I felt that I was born with a secret.
A G P
>10. Being pregnant was appealing to me.
SUPER AGP
>11. I was able to connect well with women, but not “alpha” women.
Cucky straight man
>12. My relationship with my daughter was always fraught.
TruTrans hate themselves too much to actually make someone pregnant
Typical AGP
>13. My dad’s “father-son” activities were not my thing.
Whatever
>14. I loved shopping, adored fashion, and crossdressing was becoming a regular thing (even if I couldn’t admit it to myself).
Whatever
>15. I have a tramp stamp.
Wtf, dude? How is that a "sign" of being trans?
>16. Shaving my legs for biking was a huge moment for me.
AGP
I bet he had a wank or two before going for a bike ride
>17. My wife once flat-out asked me if I was trans.
Wife? Nice AGP you got there man

>>8333321
I did that, too. I had a raccoon fursona at that time so of course I did

>>8333127
LOL this article quality writing 5/7

srsly tho, this dumbass uses anything to justify that they're trans

>>inb4 used to be olympic weightlifter, sign of trans

4/17

Not a tranny, do love the spa though.

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To be fair, the list probably makes more sense in her mind.

>>8333127
lots of vague bs

>9
I thought I wasn't the me my parents said I was, then the David Reimer episode of Law & Order fucked me up severely

>17
My boyfriend asked me if wanted to be a girl, I denied it because I didn't think I did, I just wanted to femboy mode

Am I AGP yet?

>>8336617
>then the David Reimer episode of Law & Order fucked me up severely
How so?

>1
The fuck is this song?

>2
Pretty relatable. I would sneak into this dumpster full of magazines as a kid and get dirty magazines of women just out of geniuine interest and curiosity.

>3
Yep, tried on my sisters swimsuits as a kid. Thought it was normal.

>“I know exactly what you are talking about, hon.”
lol

>4-6
no

>7
This has nothing to do with gender.

>8
I fucking HATED mirrors. When stripping to shower I would strategically place things so I wouldn't have to see my dick.

>9
Special snowflake bullshit Yeah, can't take this seriously anymore.

>10
Gross fetish.

>11
Oh fuck this one is actually very relatable. I argued all the time with more assertive women. Definitely way more than with men.

>12
If you father a child before discovering your trans you're not really trans desu.

>13
Yep, I am nothing like my dad and he is clearly very disappointed in me.

>14
yeah

don't care about the next two

>17
If you have a wife already you're not trans.

I don't know how many that is, but who cares, it's hon shit.

>>8336706
>If you father a child before discovering your trans you're not really trans desu.
>If you have a wife already you're not trans.
No, it means you're AGP, just like you are with the secret crossdressing using your sister's clothes.

>>8333127
>I lived for 39 years as a man
>I have a tramp stamp

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is so ~progressive~ and very informative! I'm so glad trans people can feel free to express the gender they truly are these days!

I thought I’d point out some of the things in this piece and show how and why this piece of writing would be supportive of Blanchard’s autogynephilia typology. I’m not ‘diagnosing’ or ‘having a go’ at the writer, I’m making some observations which show how this very candid piece supports the theory that autogynephilia is the motivation behind those males who transition who are predominantly heterosexual.

First, the poster is male, has fathered children and appears to have and possibly still be in long lasting romantic relationships with a woman. As a predominantly heterosexual transgender male, Blanchard’s typology would suggest their transition was rooted in autogynephilia, that they are an ‘autogynephilic transsexual’.

For clarity, I do not consider non-autogynephillic transsexuals to be ‘more real’ or ‘better’ than autogynephilic transsexuals.

Autogynephilia is something that is extremely poorly understood within the transgender community, it is viewed as being synonymous with fetishistic cross-dressing that purely has a single erotic end but the reality is far more nuanced; there are four types of autogynephilia, none of which are mutually exclusive and often can co-exist in groups of two or three or, as we are about to see, some subjects can provide examples of all four types of autogynephilic behaviour

The way in which autogynephilia may lead to transition has been beautifully described by Ann Lawrence in her essay ‘Becoming What We Love‘. I would recommend all of her work as it is insightful, compassionate and firmly grounded in reality, as well as Lawrence’s book ‘Men Trapped in Men’s Bodies’.

>2
Here we have an erotic connection made with having a female body. This is suggestive of ‘anatomical autogynephilia’, arousal at the thought of having a normative female body.

>3
This is an example of ‘transvestic fetishist’ autogynephilia. Note the frankness with which the author speaks about their compulsion.

>10
This is an example of ‘physiological autogynephilia’ – performing bodily functions that are associated with being female. The pregnancy/lactation things does seem to be a common theme.

>14, 15
These are two examples of ‘behavioural autogynephilia’ – exhibiting feminine behavioural stereotypes. The whole piece is, in fact, littered with many examples of ‘behavioural autogynephilia’. Note also the use of the (sexist) term ‘tramp stamp’.

The crux of the problem is thus; this incredibly candid and, in itself, insightful piece is seen as somebody’s journey to ‘becoming the person they really are’ just as so many similar pieces and stories are lauded; the reality is far different. Here we see the seeds of autogynephilia sown at an early age through the learned fetishisation of and entitlement to women’s bodies, catalysed by pornography, and as we can see this behaviour has subsisted throughout their life. Autogynephilia does not simply ‘go away’, it is, as Lawrence has reasoned, a sexual orientation.

Sadly, our political climate means that even those professionals who treat transgender or transsexual males cannot themselves even admit to the possibility that autogynephilia is a real thing. To see the lengths that the transgender political lobby will go to ruin careers and even attack the families of these professionals charged with care for transgender males, I’d heartily recommend this long but excellent essay by Alice Dreger. For insight into the shame and narcissistic rage that powers these actions, which may immediately be related to the actions of many of today’s transactivists, Lawrence again has the answers.

We are in a strange world indeed where the existence of a fundamental vector that directs people’s behaviour is ignored or flatly denied in favour of coddling it in the cotton-wool balls of ‘this is who you really are, you are just becoming yourself’. How can we have honest health care policies or be said to be addressing the reality of what makes autogynephilic transsexuals who they are if we are going to pretend this just does not exist? How is this even helping transgender males, when those charged with their care are unable to name the problem and instead are reduced to being gatekeepers of invasive medical treatments? Without recognising autogynephilia is unique to males, what does this say about the way treatment is being addressed for transgender females? Outside of the effect on the individual, we also have to consider the bigger picture. Attaching some of the most damaging and sexist stereotypes about what women can and cannot be to what it means to be a woman, ensures at the highest institutional levels the structural inequalities that keep women oppressed.

Being someone whose political view was formed in the early 1980s, where an acute awareness of the sexism, racism and homophobia that were structurally ingrained in society, even supported by a government (who enacted Section 28 and accused Nelson Mandela of being ‘a terrorist’) and where much of this -ism suffixed oppression was challenged and even ridiculed throughout popular (counter) culture, it seems ironic that the most virulent structural -ism, that of sexism, seems to pass unnoticed. Equivocating feminine behavioural stereotypes to ‘what it means to be a woman’ is deeply sexist and biologically essentialist right to the core; personality does not determine sex, sex does not determine personality.

The year is 2017 and the liberal politics of gender are foundational upon a faith which demands the unquestioning personal and institutional submission to a wilful ignorance of reality, under pain of attack, threats to careers and public denouncement. Now, where have we heard all this before?

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>>8333127
>transitioned when 40 yo
>has sons/daughters
>was married to a woman
>detested girl toys as a kid
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>>8336797
>Equivocating feminine behavioural stereotypes to ‘what it means to be a woman’ is deeply sexist and biologically essentialist right to the core; personality does not determine sex, sex does not determine personality.
Beautiful

>>8333127
What the fuck is even that thing
I just glanced some of the items and it sounds like a 47 year old hon with 4 children "discovering himself as a gurl" because he got his dick hard looking at a swimsuit jesus christ.
How the fuck you guys even find this kind of shit?

>>8337066
A large number of cute modern trannies are exactly the same except for managing to transition in their teens.

>>8333127
This is the stupidest shit I've ever read.

>>8337066
Lol it comes up on google. I've come across this article several times before.

>this single article gets more exposure and thus influences more people than all of /tttt/

i mean i get some of them

like i always hated being in pictures pre hrt, loved spas, thought girls bathing suits were cute as heck (the suits themsleves), but i.... what's up with that other stuff? i guess gender is a different experience for everyone but...............??????????

>>8337202
>this single article gets more exposure and thus influences more people than all of /tttt/
That's pretty shitty considering its quality compared to the discourse here.

>>8337226
explain the swimsuit appeal

>>8337249
uhm ,, they're cute

the style of bikinis is just cute

they just make yr body seem cute

you know, like .... cute

>>8337293
is it anything like the wearing panties under boy clothes thing?

>>8336803
this

>>8336711
Why is wearing my sisters clothing AGP? I'm not attracted to myself as a woman.

>>8336784
>Autogynephilia is something that is extremely poorly understood within the transgender community
It doesn't help that you keep seeing it used in different ways around here. Some say it's all the blatant horny crossdressers, some say it's all transbians, and one time I even read a post about how there are androphilic AGPs who are only attracted to the idea of arousing men. If that last one is true then I'd be considered AGP I guess, but isn't that just a het girl? Are all of these AGP? In that case the terms AGP and HSTS seem shitty and misleading.

>>8337875
>I'm not attracted to myself as a woman.

Then why are you feminizing yourself by wearing girl panties?

>>8337898
Because I wanted to be like my sisters. I'd been doing it since I was a toddler.

>>8333127
>Despite having been deeply repressed for my entire life, I always knew something was different about me. It felt analogous to the deep discomfort and burden of keeping a dark secret. But to make matters worse, I didn’t even know what the secret was.
FUCK

Can I be AGP if I transitioned at 18?

More like 17 signs that you're a creepy hon.

>>8337981

Yes. AGP isn't as tightly indicated by age of transition anymore. You would have to start <10 for people to be almost certain you're HSTS nowadays.

>>8337092
this this this

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>>8336797
very well put. thank you for taking the time to write this out. I wish AGP was better understood and talked about. Reading "Men Trapped in Men's Bodies" honestly changed my life. For the first time I was finally getting real answers on what was going on with me throughout my life. Sweeping the issue under the rug isn't helpful for anyone.

>>8336662
The whole transitioned at birth yet not behaving like transitioned sex, i.e., I was gay because I was born female but my parents transitioned me to male at birth. I thought they did this because my sister's fraternal twin died in utero and they wanted another son?
I dunno, I was 14 and dumb

As a very late transitioner...we're not all like this individual. I don't know why so many seem to be, but...not all of us.

Please bear that in mind. Thank you and I'll now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

>>8338693
>As a very late transitioner...
How late?

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>>8333127

omggg!!! I got a full score!!?!
do i get sum kind of prize?! hehe xx

lynda xox

>>8338809
R-Ron Paul?

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>>8338828
oh hun ur so funny!!!! x

kaylee

>>8338701
Too damn late. More than double the /tttt/ deathline of 20.