Hiding Boobs at Physical

>>8332532
How big are you?

>>8332536
Probably almost a B cup or maybe a B cup. Point is if you feel my chest its gonna be really obvious. And it goes without saying if I have to take my shirt off its gonna be completely obvious.

>>8332532
Just show them off. Why aren't you proud of them? Isn't this what you wanted?

>>8332553
Well I'm diy so I don't have a prescription. And I'd rather not have to talk about doctor about this kind of stuff.

>>8332566
Can't you just skip the physical?

>>8332566

just say you've been enjoying a lot of soy milk

easy peasy

>>8332585
I'm pretty sure I'm required to get a physical every 2 years for my university...

>>8332588
I'm actually considering this. Regardless if he thinks I have gyno or something can I just say I'm not interested in treatment?

Doctor/patient confidentiality. You can tell him the truth. If you don't he will think it's gyno. If you do he will most likely ask you to at least get regular bloodtests to check your estrogen levels.

>>8332594
Just shrug it off and play dumb. I mean, what can he done? Prescribe you some shit? It's not like you'll be forced to take it.

>femboy
>hrt
>boobs
>"femboy"

for fucks sake why cant you faggots just admit that you are trannies in denial.

>>8332549
B is kinda big, and the doc is gonna ask you to remove your shirt anyhow.. not seeing how you're going to hide 'em.

>>8332594

he's going to take one look at you and know you're a fuckboy, you know that

just shrug and be like "i guess this is what happens when you dont have sex for too long LOL HAHA" or some other bullshit joke lie

if pressed any more, just say it hasn't bothered you. if you get recommended a blood test, all they're gonna know is that you have high E levels. you won't be under any fire

now if you tell the truth you might get crazy referrals and notations in your record but it might be good because you'll have a doctor making sure your levels are good and you're not gonna die of a blood clot

i guess you just have to weigh your options; gl gurrrrl

do I have to become a femboy to make my tits grow

>>8332532
As soon as the doctor looks like he's about to ask about them just unzip his pants and blow him. If it's good enough you might not even have to pay for future checkups

>>8332532
I'm planning to become like this myself.
I want to be a hormonally feminised femboy.
Do you have any tips for me?
How do you look exactly?
What do people see you as?
Do you have problems passing as a male?
Do people figure out you're on hrt?
Please, elaborate on these things a bit. I'm curious af.

>>8332532
show pics

>thinking you can fool a doctor on a physical exam
kek

>>8332604
this I literally see no reason to hide it from your physician unless they're close friends with your mom or some shit

>>8332532
I'm most likely going to start self-medding hrt like you are in the effort of becoming a femboy, how easy is it to hide from friends / family? also what drugs are you on?
>>8332782
I'm about in this same position

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I genuinely don't understand you trannies.

Why the fuck would you hide it from your doctors and do it yourself? Why would you almost guarantee fucking your body and mind up permanently, trying to balance hormone levels? You're like 3 year olds trying to mix gunpowder. I see a psychiatrist every 3 months, and a therapist once a week. I'm open with them. Why aren't you?

t. gayfag

>>8333576
Femboys aren't trannies and far more dangerous things like blood clot causing contraceptives are avalible otc

Why don't you ban those and abortion on demand if you're so worried about safety?

>>8333593
Why the fuck would a femboy take contraceptives? Are you retarded?

>>8333598
Women do and many of them get blood clots

>>8333626
And that's your rationale for why it's ok to use prescription drugs without having a single clue how they work?

>this unrelated thing is dangerous too! so...so it's ok I do this other dangerous thing!
It's so stupid it's actually painful.

>>8332532
just say you have gyno cause hormonal imbalance
not even a lie

>>8333593
LOL ACETAMINOPHEN IS LEGAL OTC SO IT'S OKAY TO SELF MEDICATE WITH MORPHINE BECAUSE WHAT KILLS MORE IN AMURRICA? ACETAMINOPHEN! YEAH!

>this perverse lack of logic and self-respect for your own body and physical health

>>8333654
you are such a retard and couldn't even come up with legal opiate analgesics

>>8333576
I wouldn't mind seeing a therapist or something but I'm clueless how to go about doing it. I haven't visited my doctor in so long that I wouldn't even know where to begin on my issues. Plus I have severe anxiety so I'd just seize up and be unable to do anything anyway.
Honestly I think going to my family doctor and showing off my boiboobs would be an okay icebreaker.

>>8333654
Please yes, do you know how many die from Tylenol. Hrt is safe there are guidelines online and I can just follow those

So yeah, you might use us as a punching bag but look at all the far more dangerous taxpayer subsidized things we pay for. Ban them first if you're such a safety freak.

Don't yell at jaywalkers when others are carjacking right before you're eyes. It's common sense.

>>8333670
kot poster here. Talking to your family doctor would be an excellent way to start. They can refer you to a specialist who takes your insurance.

I'm harsh af to retards like
>>8333626
because he's the reason lgbt people off themselves.

>>8333670
In afraid of doing that. They might demand I stop.

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>>8333666
>morphine is not a legal prescription drug

Spotted the triggered brainlet. Continue ignoring reality for the sake of US legal code.

>pumping all these powerful hormones into my body without regular blood monitoring will surely work out great for me and my long term health!

>>8333682
You're either trolling, or you're genuinely a fucking idiot. Don't vote or have children. God bless whoever has to interact with you outside 4chan.

>>8333694
If they did it'd be for them to prescribe a safe and effective dosage. They're not going just tell you to stop being trans.

>>8333682
>there are guidelines online

looooooooooooooooool it's so hilarious watching you brainlets abuse the information age to destroy your own health from complete lack of understanding with what you're fucking with. Enjoy ehow guides, I'm sure they have your best interests in mind at all times.

>>8332566
perfect time to talk to one, go for it, tell him about your hrt, be proud of it. he might even help you get on a real regimen

>>8333682
>many people die from Tylenol
Is this actually true? I'm unrelated to this thread but carry a bottle with me everywhere due to chronic pain I'm in and have always been told it's super safe.
Am I going to die?

>>8333707
It causes kidney damage I believe. It takes a fuck ton of tylenol over a long period of time, but yeah. You should ask your doctor for alternative treatments for your chronic pain.

>>8333707
It's safe as long as you don't drink (alcohol + APAP = liver failure) and follow the fucking dosage guidelines properly.

Many people don't, and die as a result. APAP overdose kills more than heroin and alcohol.

>>8333696
You're ridiculous, there's no significant health risks to hormones, certainly nothing that would damage your health long-term, and you can pretty much just google how much to take, which is about the same info a doc will tell you. Shit I was taking 8mg of estrogen, .5mg of Dutasteride and 200mg of spironolactone, and after going to see an actual endocrinologist, I'm still taking the exact same medications but with a prescription.

>>8333696
and you still dont get it

lost case

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>>8333726
>there's no significant health risks to hormones, certainly nothing that would damage your health long-term

>>8333719
Huh, well shit then. I actually can't take other things for pain like nsaids so I've just been stuck with this for a few years now. But will look into now.
>>8333720
I never drink and am a huge prude so I guess I'm safe. I seriously cannot believe so many people die from it. That is unreal.

>>8333726
ironically you might even live longer without testosterone

>>8333735
>Have no argument
>have no desire to argue
>pretend to occupy the "high ground" in hopes I won't reply to your shitpost and steal your ability to have "the last word"

A classic. Stay triggered and ignorant to basic medical facts dunning-kruger victim.

>>8333742
It's not going to kill you overnight or anything. It's just overtime it does a bit of damage.

http://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20150302/does-long-term-acetaminophen-use-raise-health-risks#1

Can you see a chiropractor or something to help just to take less Tylenol?

>>8333756
Not really. I have a lot of issues and Tylenol is sorta the best out of everything. Unless I just go up to more narcotic type stuff and I don't feel like being a addict. But thank you

>>8333705
>>8333737
>>8333745
Absolute idiot, you can't cite any sources and yet you're trying to control other people's bodies.

You're dangerous and need to be institutionalized. In denial of reality, incompetent and narcissistic. That's a bad combo.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/827713

Why should I listen to an imbecile that knows even less than I?

>>8333778
Np. I don't think I could handle chronic pain. I'm terrified of getting carpal tunnel, or back pain, etc.

What do you have and why if you don't mind me asking? Surgery not an option?

>>8333788
Ibuprofen is better

>>8333786
>trying to control other people's bodies

By telling you that self medicating is retarded and you need to see a medical professional?

Hopefully you're one of the trannies who ends up offing themselves. Which is pretty likely considering you think you know better than people who had to do 8+ years in college.
>Oh college? Well I'll just read this thing I found online lol
Holy shit. The other anon was right. Dunning Kruger is real and it's a bitch.

>>8333737
And what does having a doctor give me these same medications do to get rid of that potential side effect? Nothing. If it's gonna happen it is gonna happen regardless of whether I'm buying my pills on the internet or at a pharmacy. Shit I can buy Tylenol off the counter with ease and then die following the instructions on the label all cuz I happen to be one of the unlucky few who will likely die if they take tylenol. It's still available though.

>>8333788
Yeah, chronic horrible pain all the time is really completely awful and I hate my life because of it, I envy people who wake up every day and feel fine.
I have a lot of back problems and autoimmune problems.
Surgery is an option for the back stuff but surgery is normally just as bad for most people.
Either you're in chronic pain or you're in chronic pain and have a bunch of metal bars in your back. Most doctors don't want to bother anymore with back surgery, least the ones I've seen
>>8333796
Yeah I agree, I use to love taking ibuprofen but once I got some other issues I am not allowed to take it anymore, or any nsaids for that matter.
They are both sorta the same more or less.

>>8333804
>think you know better than people who had to do 8+ years in college

It's not even a matter of knowing better, doctors prescribe the exact same shit that self-medders take.

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>>8333806
>>8333814
Yes anon, everyone's body, chemical, hormonal, physical and mental makeups are the same. It's not like check your blood, do a psychiatric and physical evaluation, take into account weight, height and diet, check your adrenal glands. Nope. Just read some shit online and you're good to go.

Are there actually people this stupid or is this satire? I don't think I've ever heard something so fucking arrogant, ignorant, and smug in my entire life.

>Carpentry? They just hammer in some nails. It's easy as fuck. I read how to do it online on wikihow. It's the same shit, big woop.
>Police work? They just chase after criminals and handcuff them. It's so simple. Why do they need "training" for something even I could do?
>Astronomy? Wow. Looking at planets with a magnifying glass? Nice job wasting all that money on tuition, nerds.

>>8333804
There are guideline from endo groups and those are used in a near cookie cutter way and all I see are PAs and they would hardly know about this.

And there isn't informed consent here. So I'm not going to do rle or waste precious money on therapy. And there's good studies that you contradict but give no evidence for that say it's safe. So no, you should piss off. I'm not listening to an incompetent. And if you want to stick your flaws in everyone's body then why don't you go after breeders who do far more egregious things.

You're incompetent, and you've got no sources for your claims. You're just doing this to mess with people. Take your parasitic ways somewhere else.

>>8333838
The situation is more complicated than that though. People self-med because doctors are often unsupportive or intentionally withhold prescribing HRT.
Self-medding is the easiest way to fast track transitioning, otherwise in a lot of places therapists will force you to do stuff like RLE before giving you any meds or they'll come with other random bs

>>8333838
Self-medders can take blood tests too. Hormones are relatively safe, the biggest risk of self-medding is possibly wasting money on sugar pills.

I don't get what you're trying to achieve by throwing a fit over a subject I doubt you really care about and that you don't have any real point regarding. What is your end goal?

>>8333838
Doctors don't deviate from the guidelines, even when it would be better.

Why don't you give some sources?

All I see here is an animal claiming he knows better than the studies. Disgusting

>>8333849
Please >>8333838 is likely just insane trailer trash. He hasn't cited a single study here. He probably has ulterior motives of forcing people into becoming hons.

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>>8332532
>How do I hide them or deflect conversation away
You dont need to hide anything from the Doc, but you dont need to tell them anything you dont feel like either they are just a GP its not like they are a specialist trying to diagnose you. IF the Doc does actually bring it up just say "my boyfriend and I both prefer my body this way"..... trust me the Doctor will drop it and not say shit else to you if you are over 18.

>>8333849
Do you know why they do RLE? Pro-tip, it's extremely important.

>>8333858
Nothing I say or link will convince you. We both know that.

>>8333852
I was trying to get some of the posters I saw to consider seeing a medical professional instead of taking advice and self medicating from shit online. If you think you know better, then by all means. But don't be shocked when you never give a doctor a try, think you know best, then end up killing yourself cause your tits are fucked and you can't stop thinking about self harming.

>>8333886
>Do you know why they do RLE? Pro-tip, it's extremely important.
To get their patients to either kill themselves or get murdered?

>>8333886
>Do you know why they do RLE? Pro-tip, it's extremely important.
I'm sure they've done a crazy amount of mental gymnastics to justify it but in reality doing RLE as a way of barring people from hormones is cruel and inhumane.

>>8333886
You keep telling me self-medding was supposed to ruin my body or whatever, so I ask again, now that I'm taking the exact same meds at the exact same dosages how am I any safer?
>Pro-tip, it's extremely important
Actually it's not. The official guidelines of trans-health care says that RLE is not important and is potentially harmful. Most places don't do it, but some places are ass-backwards still and they have no choice but to self-med.

>>8333886
>RLE? Pro-tip, it's extremely important.
Fantastic! I agree! Now let's help the republicans crush PP and pass laws ensuring that nobody gets contraceptives or an abortion unless it's absolutely medically necessary. "Pro-tip, it's extremely important" we do that to protect people from getting impulsive or dangerous things that they will regret.

We also need to find a way to force people who want abortions to under go some sort of RLE, ideas?

RLE turns people into hons and causes irreversible masculinization while they wait. Let's push similar laws onto the breeders and make you and your special interests suffer like us!

>>8333886
Your RLE fanboying proves you have evil intentions. Peoples bodies are irreversibly destroyed by testosterone while doing it and they're attacked and beat up by the public that understandably sees them as monsters.

You want nothing more than to destroy everyone. You're probably a troll from pol

>>8333922
>ideas?
How about forcing people who want to undertake abortion into taking care of small child?

>>8333886
No reason to trust you now. You want to turn us into monsters and that's why you want no self medding.

>>8333947
Too difficult. Let's make them murder a child with their bare hands without shedding a single tear in order to prove they're mentally prepared for an abortion.

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>>8333886
>then end up killing yourself
Fampai you sound fucking retarded, stop trying to argue from authority (Doctors know best) its a fallacy. HRT medications are considered safe, in some countries they are sold OTC without a prescription. Telling people to "listen to a doctor" on this particular topic is meaningless, not even all doctors in different locales agree. In some places you can buy HRT meds OTC, in some places you can get them with just signing for informed consent, and in some places you have to get a prescription after referral from a specialist. Not even all doctors agree which meds are "safe" in the EU they say Cypro is safe for AA but in the US Cypro is considered "unsafe" and is not approved for AA, its all meaningless bureaucratic bullshit. On this particular topic these drug classifications are meaningless they are all relatively safe.

More people die each year from NSAIDs than blood clots from Estrogen products. That doesnt mean you need a doctor to approve its ok for you to take Tylenol every time you have a headache.

>>8333947
Fantastic! Make sure she pays for the kid and can't mess up in rasing him for a minimum of three months otherwise she's permanently barred from abortions ever.

After all, most people who get abortions regret it and become suicidal. The regret rate is so high there's now a huge medical industry to reversing abortions http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article152061777.html
Be sure that it costs thousands in counciling too! For safety of course.

>>8333947
Ask the republicans to legalize this please. If all the Liberals like RLE man care so much for safety then abortion RLE is vital.

>>8333909
>mental gymnastics

That doctors aren't just going to take your word for it? That if you're planning on changing genders and living as a male or female for your entire life, you're so fucking lazy you can't take 3 months to 1 year practicing living as that opposite gender? Cry me a fuckin' river. What does taking hormones during that period do that not taking them is so massively detrimental to you as to forgoe a doctor?

>>8333942
Attacked? Who's NOT going to attack a trans person cause they're on hormones? You think you suddenly pass taking hormones for the first time in 3-12 months versus not taking them? That that's the difference? Or do you think they'll be about to attack you, but double check and let you go if you show your hormone pills? The fuck is this logic even?

>>8333922
>RLE turns people into hons
How? Is everyone I'm talking to on this board pre-pubescent? You've already undergone puberty, no? So an extra 3-12 months isn't suddenly going to make you into an irreversible beefcake.

You're also assuming so much shit.
1.Have you bothered asking your doctor and they said RLE is necessary in your case? (it isn't always)
2. If it is, have you asked them about T blockers?
3. If those two fail, do you still really think a couple extra months without hormones is going to doom you to a life of honness? That you're suddenly going to sprout this masculine jawline if you don't already have one?

>>8333977
>It's a fallacy
You don't know what a fallacy is because it's literally what we're discussing. I might even call it the fallacy fallacy.

>>8333990
Hormones make a ton of difference between ability to pass. RLE without hormones is literally just being a man in a dress. You can only really do if you go to like drag queen levels of makeup and obviously that's not possible every day.

>>8333990
You could pass well and be a femboy and then be utterly destroyed over the course of a year. There's lots of blogs documenting that and a lot of changes still happen at the end of teens. You came here just to make everyone monsters.

Hormones protect and keep what you have without them you are a monster.

>>8333990
I live in a jurisdiction where both male and female HRT products are sold over the counter without a prescription. Explain to me why I still need to go see a doctor.

>>8333990
So no abortion unless you can spend months before hand in RLE right? I'm glad the prolife is winning.

>>8333990
>You think you suddenly pass taking hormones for the first time in 3-12 months versus not taking them?
You could pass and be very andro in boy mode to begin with and remaining flodded with T could forever destroy that.

You're a troll from pol trying to turn people into hons, prove me wrong. This is exactly the justification everyone needed to self med and hate the system. Thank you for showing just what you really want.

>>8333990
Read threads here or look at the blog of a Dutch guy. People can get much worse and cross over to Hondom in the period of RLE. Lives are destroyed and people kill themselves to get relief from avoidable hondom all the time.

>>8334002
>>8334033
Hormones change your bone structure and aesthetics overnight? What's even stopping you from lying to your doctor and saying you do go out as a man/woman? You could even dress in drag for the doctor's visit once a month or whenever it is.

>>8334014
You don't HAVE to. I can buy anti-freeze over the counter and drink it. Explain why I shouldn't.

>>8334021
The irony is like sweet sugar to me.
>hate the system
This is actually called "splitting" in psychology. It's when you see things in black or white as a defensive measure cause nuance scares you. I'm not saying there aren't bad doctors. I'm not saying you have a legitimate reason and justified frustration and anger and sadness for wanting to transition with hormones, and being cockblocked for it. I'm not saying you haven't thought a ton about this. I'm saying I've dealt with the medical industry for a long fucking time, being a diagnosed autist at 12, being suicidal at 16, and seeing a therapist weekly for years, and it's incredibly upsetting that so many people write off an entire field of study and multiple professions, because they don't want to take a chance despite how great it might make them feel afterwards.

>>8334054
you don't have a legitimate reason*

Also the irony is how liberal and progressive I am and being called /pol/ because I dared to say seeing a doctor might be better than self medicating hormones.

>>8334054
>Hormones change your bone structure and aesthetics overnight? What's even stopping you from lying to your doctor and saying you do go out as a man/woman? You could even dress in drag for the doctor's visit once a month or whenever it is.
The changes in skin and the breast growth will help you pass a ton.
Also many people do just lie to their doctors. But self-medding is an easy way to avoid a lot of troubles. You'll stop masculinizing and from then on you just slowly work your way into passing. It's significantly less stressful than RLE and it gives time for your body to stop looking like a prepubescent boy with gyno.

>>8334054
>I can buy anti-freeze over the counter and drink it. Explain why I shouldn't.
Antifreeze contains a poisonous compound called ethylene glycol which is known fatal to all mammals if ingested.

Can you explain what this has to do with over the counter HRT products sold for human consumption? I dont see the correlation.

>>8334054
Seriously just read the archive about someone who's brownbone and chin were utterly destroyed between 18-20. They were planing to kill themselves that night so I assume they're dead. or just read something like all those blogs like that from a Dutch man who started to go bald in that time. Hrt probably didn't fix him. Surgery wouldn't even be able to fix things like ribs and shoulders that get worse.

That a group does evil things means they don't have your best interest in hand and if they don't have your best intrets in hand it's right to hate them and want everyone to suffer and protect yourself by self medding.

>>8334063
Because you said you wanted to turn people into hons with RLE. Now I want to make your precious causes suffer in turn.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we forced the same onto your abortion. Put safety restrictions that made it all but impossible for anyone to get? I want them all to pay for the way they hurt us. And we finally have a good chance with trump

>>8334063
Think of all the lives destroyed and all the deaths because people couldn't get their care on time

>>8334082
>doctors are malicious
Ok buddy. You sound like my conspiracy nutjob mom who thinks FEMA is going to start culling the population via chemtrails.

You also didn't give a justification for not talking to your doctor and taking T blockers. Actually no one replying to me has. I find that pretty interesting no can seem to rationalize that part. You thinking doctors are malicious though, you probably think they'll lock you up or some retarded shit.

>>8334091
The fuck are you even rambling about? Why do you keep bringing up abortion? You call me pol, then say you're a trump supporter. You're all over the map.

>>8334075
And a lot of doctors aren't equipped to treat or console transexuals. But you're not even trying. Wanna know how I found my current therapist of 4 years? I googled therapists and found one who took my insurance and specialized in my issues. I didn't make excuses

>>8334101
Then don't stop self medicating, but couple that with seeing an psychiatrist who's trained in LGBT issues. Be honest with them. Tell them that you self medicate, have been, and your justification for it if need be. If they object, walk out. They can't do shit.

>>8334054
> What's even stopping you from lying to your doctor and saying you do go out as a man/woman?
They require proof, for example testimonies of people you interact with regularly.
And what happened to RLE being absolutely necessary if you're advising to lying about it? All that does is wastes a few months that could stop your body from getting more fucked up.
>and it's incredibly upsetting that so many people write off an entire field of study and multiple professions, because they don't want to take a chance despite how great it might make them feel afterwards.
That's great you needed such help and it was successfully provided, but don't try to extrapolate your experiences to a totally unrelated issue. HRT benefits transgender people way more than any kind of therapy.

>>8334054
>because they don't want to take a chance despite how great it might make them feel afterwards.
How can it make me feel great?

>>8334115
You were praising RLE when that destroyes lives. It is malicious and therefore anyone who orders it or promotes it is malicious. It's something that ensures all patients will be turned to hons.

>>8334132
RLE in itself is not a bad thing, it's when it's used as a means of gatekeeping it turns into a bad thing
i.e. you have to present for a year before hormones
but having to present to change your legal gender is nothing bad, only helps to ensure less people regret their decision to live full-time
not that anon btw

anyone know a good basic AA and estrogen supplement for femboys that I can get without prescription in the US? (probably online)
I'd like to keep my nuts working, but I'm not opposed to having tits.

>>8334146
RLE will then just destroy femboys. You deserve to be a hon and stuffer.

>>8334159
Femboys can change their legal sex.

>>8334193
Which means nothing if RLE destroys their bodies

>>8332532
Just tell your doc you're a femboy on hormones. He can't do anything about it other than accept it and he might be able to help you medically or eden refer you to get your tits removed.

>>8334200
They can go live as girls if it means so much to them.

>>8332532
Just tell him that they grew in during puberty and you have known you have low test for a long time now but that you don't really mind them being there and don' really care for treatment.

>>8334159
if you take hormones you're a tranny whatever you like to tell yourself

>>8332532
all i see are meme answers.

What should I really say/do

Don't go hiding anything from your doctor. When they ask if you're on any medications, tell them about your hormones.

Yes they need all of this information to properly assess your physical health, and to provide you with the right healthcare in the future. If you get sick in the future, they will need to keep those hormones in mind when creating a prescription. They aren't going to go blabbing about it to all of your friends, because HIPAA, but they do need that shit on file when they give you treatment.

>>8334263
Reeeeee!

>>8332566
Where do you live? If you're in a first world country, it's likely the doctor will be willing to help you since you'll be self-medicating anyway. That's what they usually do. Even if you aren't MtF per se, you could probably get a prescription and get to measure your hormone levels/blood pressure and other stuff.

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>>8332604
The naivety of these posts :/
I wish I still had a good outlook.

Doctors are basically just going to tell you "its dangerous to self med" and give you a speech on it being bad and try to scare you out of it. They might also send in a social worker or something along those lines depending on if you're in the ER or what not.

If their medical career hasn't brought them into contact with trannies much in the past, they're going to be pretty ignorant on transition related stuff. They won't go "oh you need blood tests" they'll try to get you to stop without giving you any.

I guess I should decide if I should lie and say I have gyno and dont want to talk about it or say I'm a tranny and dont want to talk about it.

>>8338177
just tell him that those are supposed to be there if he asks

>>8338376
You're going to tell a guy with a medical degree that B cup tits on a boy are supposed to be there?

ROFL at the bitter gatekept proto-hon who could never be as pretty as me. I went to a therapist for one session and got a letter to start, and I started immediately following the blood test that took two weeks to examine. What is the point of forcing people to wait months while cross dressing and smelling like men? You must be British lmao you ugly race of nhs-cocksucking freaks.

Saying that HRT is safe because doctors prescribe it is like saying that chemotherapy is safe because doctors prescribe it.

The idea is that, conditional on actually being sick (having severe gender dysphoria or having cancer), the positive effects of the drug outweigh the negative effects.

As someone who actually works in drug development and is LITERALLY posting from work, the notion that drugs are just typically categorically safe is bizarre to the point of absurdity.

>>8333864
What the fuck is with your weird cultish obsession with the bureaucratic processes of science? Do you not realize e.g. that the Wikipedia article in the screenshot of >>8333737 LITERALLY links to MULTIPLE scholarly articles as footnotes?

You act like Science is some sort of figured-out codex of Known Truth, and that the ONLY authorized dispensers of Known Truth are the certified(tm) practitioners of Science. Ever heard of "scientism"? That's you, buddy. Incapable of critical thinking, so you try to draw unwarranted authority from the scientific establishment.

The scientific establishment, fyi, hates cargo-culters like you, who can't even figure out the fact that Wikipedia cites plenty of primary source articles, and worse, doesn't realize that contextually-aware interpretation of primary source research is NECESSARY, not OPTIONAL.

>>8334076
>over the counter HRT
?

Do you know what "over the counter" means?

>>8338585
just try to look like a genderqueer feminazi thats easily triggered and he will probably wont push it too hard

>>8332566
How'd you get DIY?
>>8334565
If it's not first world, then yeah, that's kind of not helpful.

>>8339073
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/827713
It is proven safe and the studies sure are more believable than you. Burning trash for a lab hardly makes you an expert, stop being so full of yourself.

>>8339073
your ignorance is showing

nobody thinks science is perfect but the systems that exist keep people safe, working outside those systems in inherently dangerous

>>8339197
QHI. Im on cypro and progynova.

>>8332566

You can tell him they just developed on their own, and you don't know why it happened, but honestly you don't really mind it. This actually happens (very rarely) to men. If he orders a test you can go along with it. If he asks whether you are taking any medications you can deny it. Doctors don't mind boobs on boys. They care about disorders and they care about drug treatments. If you pretend not to be getting any drug treatment and you say you like your body as it is, then he won't find either of those things, so he'll be okay with it.

>>8333707

Coincidentally I just listened to an old This American Life episode about this. Here's a link, I found it pretty interesting: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/505/use-only-as-directed

>>8333742

One time I took a large-ish dose of Advil daily for chronic pain... after a couple of weeks I had mild tinnitus. I stopped immediately, and years later I still have mild tinnitus.

Drugs suck I guess. Well except some of the illegal ones. Funny how that works

>>8334887
If you can't trust your doctor to have the intention of helping you why don't you switch doctors?