lbrh trannies and femboys and faggy "genderqueer" maabs are all just ladyboys at the end of the day. so can we please just come together for once and be faggy boy-girl things together for once? in thailand they already group all of us together and just say we're all ladyboys, which has always made a lot of sense to me -- we're kind of ladies, but we're also kind of boys, so why not use a label that encompasses the complexity and ambiguity of what we are, instead of trying to insist that we're "real women" or "real boys" or something vague and unhelpful like queer?
>>8303786
Femboys aren't girls!
>>8303786
The issue is that >>>/lgbt/femgen can already be used for this, there is no reason to make a separate /ladyboygen/.
>>8304155
the self-described femboys in that gen vehemently try to distance themselves from trannies, despite taking estrogen, getting surgeries, etc. i can see how femboy could be used synonymously with ladyboy, but right now there's a strong culture of "we're totally not trannies at all and trannies should gtfo" in femgen. it just seems unnecessary to splinter what's basically the same group into two arbitrary groups where one obsessively tries to claim their maleness and another tries to obsessively claim their femaleness
>>8303786
ladyboy is a slur
If you call me a ladyboy irl I will beat the shit out of you, in public even
my Identity does not revolve around my genetalia
>>8306038
How can a trap beat up a man?
Ladyboy sounds really cute. I'm into it.
>>8306042
the art of karate
>>8306308
I love it honestly. OP I'm a mtf trans but I wholly think we're all basically the same creature. Am I allowed in /ladyboygen/?
In my opinion all boy-girl variants would be better off in one big happy general. Tear down the walls! End the segregation!
Just call it gender queer gen. We already get a bunch of ftm twinks in /femgen/ asking if they are welcome there. Ladyboy isn't inclusive to them. Or on second thought maybe it is but it's repossessing a slur as anon mentioned.
>>8306038
sorry sir I thought you were one of those transgendereds
>>8307088
Yes its inclusive, yes it will be a repossessed slur, which is great. Also its just a nice word in general. Lady is literally a honorific. All around it's just a really great word.
>>8306042
I typically have a posse of nignog football players with me that will just beat you up for me.
>>8307088
like i said genderqueer is super vague, unfortunately. it's used by everyone from butch lesbians to girls with short hair to creepy pseudo-feminist guys who want to seem hip and edgy. also it's just generally always been tied more so to people who are faab, just because they're the ones who tend to use it and teach about "queerness" and "queer theory" in universities. it's often said that everyone is ultimately queer (or at least I've heard stuff like that a lot), so.... it's just super vague, as opposed to being accurate which i feel like ladyboy is. it specifically refers to feminized males (and feminine, gender bending males), regardless of whether they present as male, female, or somewhere in between.
>>8306038
>l I will beat the shit out of you, in public even
Careful, sir. Your T rage is out of control.
>>>/hongen/
>>8303786
and do you know how they treat ladyboys in thailand? Ill give you a hint like second class citizens. Transsexuals are not ladyboys transsexuals want to integrate into western society as women like any other women they just so happen to be born trans which fucking sucks
That's y passing is important because the only way to remotely achieve this is to pass. Ever other label is used for peopl who cannot pass so they make up some other term to try and fit in but it always fails because they act like children cringing the fuck out in-front of normies an all that does is give a worse and worse name for trans people that can pass. It's turned into a cesspit of jealously and to much pride 4 these children
>oh so you can pass
>why can't I pass i'm tranny degen too?
>I know ill make my own fantasy label to get attention desu
>why do people still hate me desu i'm a tranny in my own snowflakey way even amongst fellow sempais
>Oh I know Imma be so happy about my cringe to make people jelly cause I'm to prideful and loud about my insecure personality
>Yes i'm finally getting so much attention but why do people still hate me desu?
>Fuck Fuck fuck why are more and more people hating me where are the people I can relate to desu?
> oh i'm glad I met a similiar snowflake like you sempai why don't other trannies understand us?
>I love you sempai lets be loud and proud together infront of all the normies!
>Oh sempai why don't you agree with my limited view of personality?
>sempai i thought you loved me give me attention why do you say those things
>sempai you must agree with me wtf i thought we were the same?
>what you are telling me that's not what a transsexual is? Oh well fuck you, you are making me cry even though we barelyknow each other and out world view is so limited because I'm an asshole who just wants attention
>I am special snowflake dtranny drogonkin of the 10th level in our universe who also feels like a dog and a girl respect my pronouns REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>>8303786
Ladyboy is still excluding nonbinary people, and will make people who identify as girls uncomfortable no matter how much you argue with them about it, doesn't matter if you think you're right, we're trying to bring people together here. Queer really is the best word to encompass all variations of non gender normative identities, precisely because it's ''vague''.
>>8309034
alright queer just don't fuck it up for actual transsexuals suffering a debilitating medical condition that people like you tarnish.
>>8309049
I never precised my identity.
>tfw no idea what i am
>>8309034
what do you call faggy ppl with boobs and dicks tho
because it seems like that's just its own physical category. "queer", "woman", and "boy" are all just based on what a person *decides* they are instead of what they objectively are, which is more complicated and ambiguous than boy or girl but can also be described way more accurately than queer. honestly even a porn term like shemale would be more accurate than all of the identity politics labels people have come up with
We have now recreated the nonbinary general thread, /enbygen/, by attaching it to /femgen/. See: >>>/lgbt/enbygen.
>>8309119
"non binary" isn't as cute as ladyboy tho
>>8309119
to really be accurate tho you'd have to make it nb + femboy + tranny gen
or, you could just call it ladyboy gen now. that would be simpler and mean the same thing
>>8309130
^
non binary makes you sound like a broken computer
>>8309119
I wish someone would make a proper femgen why do you pick on the deadest thread on leggbuts.
I wish everyone in this thread would unironically put a bullet in their brains.
>>8309276
>Unfriendly* Namefag
>>8309166
We are only expanding it. We are, in fact, Making >>>/lgbt/femgen Great Again.