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trash edition

• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
• Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

previous: >>8276143
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sophie is my kinda girl desu
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>>8277307
But I am a big dumb weeb
Also, I need more of this in my life
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Bababa ba babybel
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>buy Kendrick lamar's damn on a whim today
>it's fucking censored
Never again will I purchase music. Censorship ruins art
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>>8277309
maeve its time for your bedtime pls go to sleep
>>8277316
i don't really read any yuri but i do find most of it cute idk
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>>8277318
saying it makes it feel more real and helps me work towards stuff

i just say it when people say "7 months is nothing you'll be fine xDDDDD"

>>8277307
i will reconsider if things begin to take a turn for the better before then

>>8277312
im trying to help her get better
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Maeve thread

>>8277253
>still playing wow
feels bad ;_;
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fuck.
now i wish someone else would play w/ my butt
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>>8277330
what server
don't say moonguard
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>>8277319
4-aco-dmt was what i had heard about that is supposed to be the same experience

i've experienced ego loss only 2 or 3 times...for me it was less about feeling like god and more like god was crushing me under his foot
like it was incredibly stressful and confusing and scary and the opposite of fun...but when I look back on it I consider it worthwhile

and these experiences for sure did help me see that I was trans and really make me more sure of the fact
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>>8277325
Write to the seller and the artist bitching about it.

Serves you right for paying for it though.
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>>8277327
that sounds alright. just got to persevere even if most stuff is shit atm.
>>8277329
well make sure you definitely move out then im sure it won't be so awful away from your christfag mother
>>8277332
that is /extremely/ lewd
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>tfw your vision is so shitty that not wearing your glasses gives you migraines
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>>8277332
Iktf
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>>8277316
>tfw had a friend in elementary school i played with in the after-school program we went to
>she and i hung out every day in the little playground area behind the church
>for halloween my grandma had made me a vampire cape, and i was wearing it one day around then during outside play time
>since it was around halloween i somehow came up with the idea of playing a pretend game as this girl's vampire servant (for the record we were both like 6 or 7) ... except i told her for the game id be a girl vampire
>told her to call me a good girl when i did something as her servant she wanted me to do
>she totally did and patted my head too
i remember this very vividly to this day
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I'm bored
What should I do /mtfg/?
>>8277325
>she doesn't just use spotify
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>>8277306
>>8277319
>>8277322

4-HO-MET is the name, or 4-Hydroxy-N-ethyl-N-methyltryptamine

Yeah, I also spent quite a deal of time, what felt like forever, fighting between two opposing forces in the universe before remembering that those are both things inside me (or "us") and that I'm actually one with all that I stand against as an individual.

Sometimes weed still triggers that state of mind of "remembering" and I think of every event that passes in front of me has some sort of cosmic representation of humanity, and also this sense of feeling like others can read my mind and vice versa but it's not quite as intense as the methylcybin trip itself.
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>>8277332
Go find someone~
It is worth it and toys don't come even close.
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>>8277337
i shouldn't have tried it for the 1st time since i started hrt
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hugg haribu thread
>>8277328
i'm nocturnal
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>>8277341
video games help me fill the void
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How do I live with a masculine body?
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>>8277343
if only i had the nerve
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>>8277341

Play Heroes of the Storm with me
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>>8277340
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>>8277342
desu now that i read that good and evil thing that just sounds very christian
>>8277344
ive not tried it either since hrt
>>8277345
too bad time to get snuggled up
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>>8277348
We'll tell you when we find out
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>>8277329
>im trying to help her get better
you dying would shatter her
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>>8277353
exactly
i have no idea why its such a thing for me but it is and obviously was even when i was a tiny

>>8277332
ahhhhhhhh i wakaru that kimochi my tomodachi
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>want to do lewd stuff to myself
>can't because of extreme pain and bleeding
>bf only rarely gives me sex, maybe once every 2 months

who /living like a nun/ here?
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>>8277333
>moonguard
I had forgotten about that place.
I'm on a terrible server but terrible because it's dead and bad, not because it's full of perverts.

>>8277345
hugg
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Should I pre-order NTR vol 3??? y/n

>>8277340
That shit's fuckin adorable
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>>8277337
Idk what I'm supposed to persevere for. I see no future ahead of me
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>>8277356
ill still have 10 months to change things around once i move out
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>>8277342
this was me >>8277335
it certainly sounds interesting to me, and it makes me sad the government declares chemicals illegal with no backing

weed never brings anything "back" for me, but since I so rarely smoke now it does mess with me and make me feel uncomfortable really easily


did you notice vivid dreams/being able to lucid dream after taking it?
never in my life had I had a lucid dream before ego loss, another thing I find very interesting
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i put all my lewd images in a directory call gayporn but now im saving some straight images in there too this is a crisis do i need to rename this or make a new directory ahhhhhhhhh

also lmao at captcha
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>>8277371
dang what you posting on senpai that your reply box looks like that
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>>8277366
just because you can. sorry im not very good at this but i still dont think you should die
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>>8277341
I do use spotify and I listen to the album on there. I just bought it for the physical sentimental value but it has none now
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>>8277354

Well, except with Christianity we're the creations of god, whereas in my trip that I'm God, You're god, I'm you, everyone in this thread is me etc. etc.

Nothing has ever made me question the nature of my reality quite like this. This unity is strangely distressing -- if I'm speaking from a spritual perspective, and not dismissing the experience as a drug-induced psychosis like my logical self ought to, I think we are split into our individual selves (or illusions of such) because of the overwhelming sense of loneliness that comes from being the only thing in existence, and this is the only way to cope - by being separate from one another
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>>8277375
I don't really want to see just how bad things can get
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>>8277366
post a picture that actually looks likes you I guess

everything you posted has looked perfectly normal and not near the hon-levels you describe yourself
put up or shut up
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>>8277362
>bf only rarely gives me sex, maybe once every 2 months
Why?
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>>8277368
>>8277379

I frequently have extremely vivid dreams, but I'm not sure they're ever induced by drugs - isn't it DMT that causes us to dream in the first place? That should be sufficient.
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>random memory of me in high school wearing pants to gym class because my legs were shaved and I didn't want to get bullied

Wew

How is errybody
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>>8277374
its 4chanx
>>8277379
i said it sounds very christian because of the like 2 sides fighting u know good and evil god and satan saint and sinner all that shit. i do like what you say about that loneliness thing thats kinda interesting
>>8277382
:< sorry.. i thinks better to have a chance than things get better
>>8277383
shes very cute but apparently doesn't pass irl
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>>8277379
>religion
Not even once
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>>8277379
It is a drug induced psychosis and nothing more. I hope you remember that. Drugs might make you feel things but it's all taking place in your own head.
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>>8277394
>Actually doing sports
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>>8277388
he's suicidal and depressed because of his life situations and as such hrs only rarely in the mood for that kind of thing along with having erectile dysfunction
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>>8277383
A good day pic
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>>8277401
i used to play hockey for a few years. it was kinda fun its like an excuse to go skate around and do you best to hurt other people helps with anger and self hate sometimes
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>>8277402
DUMP
U
M
P
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>>8277402
Hugg for both
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>>8277379
It was just a metaphorical, drug-induced, visual and subconsicous version of your (commie) beliefs.
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>>8277405
you really don't look like a dude
I can clearly see femininity
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>>8277405
gonna kiss you
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>>8277401
It was just gym class not sports
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>>8277405
you look..................... cute!
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shit. i need to find someone to fuck me this summer.
i'll have plenty of time
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>>8277405
if you learned makeup and actually presented yourself more feminine you could get gendered female more often

your face could go either way and the way you dress and wear your hair is really boyish

>>8277409
>dump one of the only things in life making me happy and supporting me financially and emotionally in spite of all his own personal hangups

this is why I never ever take advice from mtfg

>>8277410
ty anon we are trying to pull each other up in life
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>>8277402
Is he worth it?
And I hope his ed is caused by the other things, then it just becomes a matter of getting out of this bad spot and then getting lots of cheery dickings.
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>see anti-gay propaganda on tv disguised as a show promoting family values
>there's a part about how single moms are so brave
>start ripping into mom about how "brave" it was for her to have a child at a late age with someone diagnosed with cancer
>tell her how selfish she is
>"so if you wouldn't have been born if you could choose not to have been?"
>"nope!"
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>>8277362
>who /living like a nun/ here?

Yuppers
>Can't do random hook ups without being suicidal
>Can't hold a relationship together
>Can't lewd myself without breaking down half way through and crying for hours.
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>>8276893
>>8276904
A shirtless picture of someone when they had 0 breast development at all is not "nudes"

If a woman posted her tits then said she identified as male it'd still be nudity, to clear that up
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>>8277405
You could stand to lose some weight unless you're bulimic with swollen cheeks.
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>>8277391
psylocybin has always made my dreams more intense
its essentially taught me how to have lucid dreams too, although its still probably only 1 in 15 or 1 in 20 it ends up happening

psychedelics are so profoundly cool to me and I think the world would be better if they were legal and alcohol taboo and illegal
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>>8277405
nice weak jaw and chin ms never pass
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>>8277422
absolutely. there's been several times where i was just breaking down and crying like a child where he's been there for me or given me like 200$ because I couldn't afford a bill.

he also totally supported me when I was unemployed for several months, taking me out on dates and buying me groceries or cooking for me. he's an angel and i wouldnt still be with him if I didn't believe in him and feel like we can make it together

not to many guys these days are that loving and caring to their girl
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>>8277405
from past pics ive seen you look like you gained weight. It's helping.
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>>8277397
Well, also there's the whole "what am I supposed to really do with this information" and the answer is that there's no useful application of it. The best I can say is it makes death less frightening (thought I still want to see if medical immortality will be possible this century) and either way there is no real point of existence and the best we can do with it is try to have a good time with it because it's all that there is.

>>8277396
lol'd and agreed

>>8277395
Gotcha

>>8277411
Oh neat, I hadn't considered that. But it can't be purely commie because I have a significant disdain for facists and nazis, and that trip had an effect of realizing that those people are just different sides of myself, those thoughts that we all have deep down but dismiss when we're more enlightened. Me being a commie, I'd never reconcile that.

>>8277427
Gender is weird in my dreams. Sometimes I'm a boy, sometimes I'm a girl, sometimes I don't seem to remember having one at all.
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>>8277421
How old are you?
Why can't you support yourself financially?
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>>8277421
The camera lens is flattering, my chin is a lot longer than that irl. Idk how to dress feminine when i can't fit into women's clothes. I do wear makeup sometimes but last time I wore it to school I got laughed at and called a faggot. Also electro damage has made a permanent shadow on my upper lip since then which is fun
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>>8277423
a little mean but i don't really disagree i guess. also put your trip back on nim we all know its you
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>>8277438

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpRXEzonFDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbbxwer_Pc8

I'm just gonna leave these here. I hadn't seen these for years before the trip, btw.
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>>8277438
>Gender is weird in my dreams.
>tfw you've been every combination of cis/trans, male/female and gay/straight in your dreams
Dreams are fucked
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>>8277443
Why the long face?
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>>8277426
Idk if I wanna go back to underweight
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>>8277424
i masturbate once in a while but thats it
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>>8277448
Genes and no money for ffs
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>>8277443
You look soooooooooooo cute :O
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>>8277443
wtf I thought electro was supposed to get rid of shadow?
And does anyone pass here? Every time someone posts a passing picture here it turns out they don't actually pass IRL.
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>>8277438
>those thoughts that we all have deep down but dismiss when we're more enlightened.
>was full commie in hs
>dropped it soon as I got out of it and got into learning humanities/social sciences for real
>pseudo fascist now
Hmm.
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>>8277443
How old
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>>8277447
im always a either a faggy dude, transgirl, or like completely genderless in my dreams
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>>8277456
You saw me skype shakira
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>>8277456
Yeah but the treatment can damage the tissue and cause pigmentation
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>>8277459
23. Do I look 30 yet?
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>>8277457

It's natural to want to believe that your "group" is superior to all the other groups. It's what humans do. It's dumb, something you'd expect of a dumb animal, but really, we kinda are.
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>>8277464
you look 19
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>>8277462
You passed perfectly. I literally had a bag over my head.
Wanna see a pic of me on Discord? Are you trustworthy?
>>8277463
Laser doesn't do this right? Upper lip shadow is a major problem of mine
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>>8277464
How long HRT
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>>8277438
Like you said there is no useful application of your drug experiences. Recreational drugs are just like other hobbies in many ways. I wouldn't think more highly of someone that raids in wow either, but if they show signs of neglecting reality for the game it raises a red flag.
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what even is gender lol
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>>8277473
magnets
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>>8277435
You make him sound super sweet.
I hope you two get past all the bad stuff and become the qtest and happiest couple~
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>>8277456
It's literally impossible for mtfs to pass irl. If you've had testosterone in your body for over a year, you really don't stand a change. Testosterone changes the human body too much.
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>>8277444
i don't care if im mean to her
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>>8277473
read gender troubles by judith butler
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>>8277449
Then stop purging and see a doctor about your eating disorder.
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>>8277473
Whether you are male or female.
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>>8277478
sorry i wasn't really trying to say you shouldn't be mean to her its just you still have to live with her for at least a bit more
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>>8277469
Sure
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>>8277473

An idea made up by a primitive species in early stages of development, assuming that people should act and behave differently based on their genitals. It's a social relic from ancient times. In the future there is no gender. Everyone is strong and pretty.
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>>8277483
ive been making sure she knows how selfish that decision was since i was 12 years old
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>>8277477
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>>8277441
old enough and generally speaking i can financially support myself now that I'm working but before when I was unemployed I couldn't because no income or savings.

he helps out with my bills a little bit now because getting an apartment is a fuck load of money and even with 1000$ saved I still didn't have enough to cover all the initial deposits and bullshit 300$ activation fees

things are better now that I'm making a steady income and he brings me to work sometimes but there are sometimes where I make no tips and that makes it a little harder to scrape by

>>8277443
>can't fit into women's clothes shoes

you REALLY need to stop making up bullshit excuses and look into getting shoes and clothes that fit. it's not even rocket science to do a Google search online for clothes for plus sized tall girls or ask around at local shops

the main things holding you back from passing isn't hrt or genetics it's YOU and your give up attitude. any tranny absolutely needs to have her presentation up to par or she will get clocked you really can't afford to dress yourself andro or tomboy with your voice being so deep.

get off your depressed butt and use Google. you may not be able to pass 100% of the time with that voice or holding you back but with a good female presentation you can get it to at least 50% before you speak and that's a hell of a lot better than the 0% you're at now

im not gonna hugbox you and say you pass because clearly you don't, so you need to make some serious changes to get that passing % up.

and concealer + foundation hides facial shadow enough because that's what I do and I haven't had any laser or electro

quit being a whining faggot. transition is balls to the wall fucking hard and no body can make it better but YOU so quit blaming everything except your lack of sufficient work at it
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>>8277465
We kiiinda are yes, and where it is true we cannot neglect or change that, only deal with it. But we can also be pretty smart and wonderful animals too. And lewd, cute animals too. And not in a furry way.

Though this is kinda not the point, as fascism has few to do with this. This is more the nazi territory.
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>>8277477
I think the problem here is that most trannies ITT are twinkhons. They look young and fem so if they post a cropped angled pic of their face they appear to pass but IRL they have 19" shoulders and are 6'2"
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>>8277451
I try maybe once a month or so to see if I can do it again but it very rarely works out.
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>>8277500
I just messaged you on discord
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>>8277494
Longtallsally sells clothing for very tall amazonian women with great fashion trends to boot :)
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>>8277477
I pass irl as a poop :)
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am i cute?
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>>8277493
I'm serious. It's easy to get deluded into thinking otherwise if you live in a liberal area. Go visit some redneck town in the midwest and it will be all "he" and "sir" because they don't know they're supposed to treat you as a woman.
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i platinumed horizon zero dawn and it was super good
fgg
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>>8277469
Laser can do it as well though I think it's lower risk, but aren't you black? You should be safer.
>>8277471
Too long
>>8277468
Ok.
>>8277480
I don't have an eating disorders anymore :s
>>8277494
Ive bought some women's clothes but they look fucking horrible on me and/or don't fit despite being L size. I wear andro stuff because it fits me, especially with shoes it's literally unisex or custom-made shoes.
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>>8277516
How long HRT
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>>8277500
Exactly
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>>8277509
Catgirls are always cute
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>>8277519
2 years
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is taylor swift's adams apple clockable?
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>>8277509
yeah
>>8277511
angie tried to do this and they all gender her female lol
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>>8277524
Weak jaw and chin, no sympathy
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>>8277527
What does that mean
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N O // S Y M P A T H Y
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>>8277530
pebkac
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>>8277516
I'm Korean.
>>8277527
>>8277536
Is this a new meme?
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pro tip: u never get clocked if u never go outside
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Does anyone know if Bica is legal in the US? If so how easy is it to order/self med it
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>>8277499

The rise of right wing tendencies largely has to do with "the people like me are better than the people not like me" mentality, with nationalism, racism, etc. Even the religious fundamentalism aspects of it have to do with "my group of fanatics is better than the other people"

Capitalism itself also has a social darwinist justification to it, people who suffer under it deserve to suffer to remove the weak, IE people who aren't like me. Or a desire to be able accrue wealth and therefore power and therefore show everyone how awesome you are.

Specifically on the authoritarian aspects of fascism, the cynical view that people are too stupid to govern themselves...marxist commies believe that too (until communism happens and everyone is an intellectual)
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>>8277539
its the newest and hottest meme brought to you by /lgbt/mtfg/
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>>8277530
Weak jaw and chin is feminine, no sympathy
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>>8277539
https://clyp.it/dxo0nrnk
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>>8277526
Even in my boy mode :(
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>>8277543
>large breasts
No sympathy.
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>>8277550
>long hair
no sympathy
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>>8277548
>Asian
No sympathy.
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>>8277543
Only Spiro is legal for AA Everything else has to be off label or illegally smuggled into the country
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>>8277521
>>8277526
YAY!!!! X3
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>>8277554
>passing voice
No sympathy.
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>>8277516
chances are you probably have no idea how to dress yourself for your body shape or picked out some tacky out of fashion stuff

online is your friend, look up current on style stuff and look around at what other girls are wearing. use amazon to order shoes in your size they have literally everything

seriously the problem isn't your genetics it's your attitude that's fucking up your entire transition. you've been at this long enough to where you should know the basics required for getting gendered female but you're still sitting there trying to make excuses on why you don't pass instead of doing research and practice on how to pass

you think any of the passing girls on mtfg sat around depressed all day blaming life? fuck no we got off our depressed assess and went maximum try hard to start passing and looking reasonably female. you're just sitting there letter yourself age into an unpassing hon because waaaaaah it's too hard

sorry but not sorry I have very little pity for whiners that just give up and resign themselves to never pass because they're either lazy and expect hrt to do the work or too coward to fucking go into uncomfortable situations and LEARN how to girl

things will literally never ever get better unless you resolve to change something and start doing more than what your doing because this token effort is basically worthless. ask yourself do you WANT to pass or not. if the answer is yes then you as a woman should be willing to do anything to get to that point regardless of how difficult or how long it takes
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>>8277556
p sure lupron and others are legal just prohibitively expensive
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>>8277508
I wouldn't have known if I didn't stumble in here desu.

Also the bailer is broken again press F
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No empathy
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>>8277555
https://clyp.it/konzccz3
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>>8277563
FUCK
Seriously? I work receiving tomorrow pls kill me
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where's this 'no sympathy' coming from?
why can't we be nice to each other?
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>>8277564
you messed up the meme
>>8277563
those things always get broken or the fucking company or whatever doesn't come to empty them shit sucks
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>>8277554
Boys can have long hair
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>>8277562
I forgot about lupron but insurance isn't going to cover that as an AA :S If you had prostate cancer sure
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>>8277556
really?
shit i am so fucked then
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>>8277563
>press F
F
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>>8277571
I heard that we just rent the thing too, it's not even ours. Cole/Ted/etc were supposed to order a replacement part but decided to just let it go instead. My hands are soaked in hydraulic fluid
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>>8277543
>Does anyone know if Bica is legal in the US?
It is with a prescription, just like spiro.
>If so how easy is it to order/self med it
Very easy. It's no different from ordering any other HRT.
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>>8277579
depends what insurance you have. i know trans people in usa who have got it covered
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So after seeing what Shakira looks like. She reminds me of Nakia Burrise.
Shakira is just fine
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>>8277575
>tfw boy with long hair
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>>8277560
I ordered some supposedly fashionable stuff online. Most other girls at the uni wear more or less similar stuff, it just fits them way better. I don't live in the us so Amazon doesn't work.

Idk why you think I haven't tried? I mean the results aren't there so I gave up on the things I tried but I didn't give up before trying.

Seriously though, how do you dress a 6'1 person with slim body type, wide shoulders, no waist no hips. I've been told to wear skirts that bloom to make hips where there is none but I can't fit them around my wide waist and they don't work as there's no difference between hip and waist to make it flare.
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>>8277574
I went a step further
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>>8277584
Whaaat? This is the second time they cheaped out on the part, I had heard they were going to get it installed next wednesday but I guess nooooot

You got stuck running the baler I take it?
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>>8277568
https://clyp.it/2s1ozqf0
>>8277590
:)
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>>8277526
Angie looks like this guy I used to know and it's more than a little disturbing.
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>>8277586
Phew, more power to them!
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>>8277545
>The rise of right wing tendencies largely has to do with "the people like me are better than the people not like me" mentality
This mentality is also very much present in the left. You yourself has shown that you believe fascism and nazism to be dumber version of the good concept.
It is just a human thing. It isn't even a fully bad one - we strive to be in the good, right, side of things. We just disagree about what is good and right.

>Capitalism itself also has a social darwinist justification to it
But it also has an empowering, liberating justification for it: That if you can be awesome and bring any social use to the people, you can get awesome stuff and the means to be even more awesome.
Of course, neither justifications are totally true when applied to reality, but neither are totally false too.

> the cynical view that people are too stupid to govern themselves...
Well, we establish an age that defines when people should be able to, and is kind of a social consensus that they can't govern themselves before that.
And age doesn't really mean quite a lot.

Isn't it the same base idea in the end, though? That the will of a single person can't trample the whole? And that the state (at least before communism becomes fully realized and stateless) should attempt to rule in a way that is beneficial to the whole, and not to some limited classes/groups?
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>>8277609
pretransition I mean >.>
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>>8277609
yeah shes pretty morbid desu
>>8277610
i think they had really good insurance through parents or going to fucking expensive bullshit unis which their parents were also paying for
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>>8277609
>guy
Fuggggggggggggg
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>>8277602
A few of us were doing it, but atleast I have tomorrow off and then probably a 6am start h-haha

Why am I still in this general tbqhwymf
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D E A D
same time EVERY night
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>>8277590
everyone says I look like Alex Jones
they're not wrong
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*sprays rancid ejaculate all over in order to attract a mate*
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>>8277626
you want to be a girl
take your hormones
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>>8277626
THIS>>8277635 to be quite honest
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>>8277630
>short
no sympathy
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>>8277619
I meant pre-transition ;_;
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>>8277632
Well then! That's pretty lewd and graphic
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>>8277627
no sympathy
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i just found a picture of myself in high school and i looked like a girl BUT I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AND NOW I'M A FUCKING HON I HATE MY LIFE
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>>8277600
im almost the same height (6'0") with the same body type and manage to dress myself just fine. idk wtf is your problem where you have this victim complex and think that magically everything just is worse for your because you're you. just because something doesn't work out once or twice doesn't mean give up entirely. your #1 2 and 3 problems with trans in in general is that you're a quitter and and a whiner and will remain a hon until you fix that profound issue first

as far as I know amazon ships worldwide just use Google and ask foes Amazon ship to my country

whining on mtfg about how much your life sucks and you don't pass has never in the history of mtfg made anyone pass
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>>8277642
*tries to impress you with a mating dance*
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>>8277645
>once looked like a girl
no sympathy
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>>8277626
Well shit now I have to look up and down the schedule I think I have enough clues to make an educated guess

Also I'm assuming you're still here because I still haven't guessed who you are lol. I feel stumped without a gander at the timetable or more to go on ;~;

>>8277635
Stahp don't force-fem my coworkers
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>>8277614
u know anything about post left anarchist shit senpai or like nick land ccru shit before he became a scientific racist
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>>8277650
it makes it 10 times worse though, because i could have passed but i screwed up
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>>8277649
You've tried this before, remember? :P
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>>8277646
I thought you were 5'10"?
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>>8277635
>>8277638
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>>8277641
Too late
The deed is done
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>>8277651
>elanna passing up on a chance to actually irl force fem somone
w t f
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thinking about kms'ing my self
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>>8277656
nope 6'0"
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>>8277657
i see the pain in your eyes senpai its okay you don't need to suffer anymore you can just be a girl
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>>8277651
I'm so confused. Why is your coworker in this thread?
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>>8277663
Amazonian princess sighted!
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>>8277614
Thats fair I suppose, as an aside I must say I very much appreciate the tone of your post

but the greatest inventors, scientists, engineers, and artists of history were all motivated by the desire to create and share for its own sake, not by a selfish desire to accrue wealth. I think that people will still create awesome stuff once capitalism is laid bare, either by revolution or the coming automation of everything.

Also the state in capitalist society primarily serves and administrates for the wealthy elite, seeing that the whole are indeed trampled as a result - with careful management of resources and automation, there can be enough of all the things that make life wonderful for everyone, and without the need to force people to work under threat of starvation and exposure.

and I think any fashy movement will ultimately serve the ethnic majority of that country, and I think in any country with a fashy dominant government, it'd be awfully frightening to be someone like us.
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>>8277651
I mean like on one hand I'd just tell you because this is some Middle School tier shit, but a shows a show.

Lunch is over anyway
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>>8277657
don't fall for the tricks i cut my balls off and took the girl pills like they said and im still a disgusting old man
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>>8277662
im feeling mostly better lately hope you can feel a bit better too
>>8277666
gender dysphoria
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>>8277663
I'd let you dom me senpai
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>>8277667
i get asked if i played girls basketball or volleyball in high school so often irl >_<
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who /up at 4AM listen to radiohead and crying/ here
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>>8277673
Do you work at a transgirl factory?
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>watching anti-abortion show on christian tv
>woman talking about how she had a miscarriage
>start laughing
>"i didn't know this was a comedy!"
i like laughing at dark things on tv because it makes my mom mad
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>>8277676
>me
>dom

lul. i also don't like girls sorry anon
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>>8277640
taller than any of my sisters, giant shoulders, giant gorilla arms, tiny hips

I am a joke
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>>8277684
wow so edgy
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>>8277681
yeah listening to im a creep on repeat honestly good song
>>8277682
im not her coworker. i work at a different grocery store tho lol
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>>8277680
That's because amazonian princesses enjoy women's volleybasket in their courts! The jesters do make good sport of it!
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>>8277680
But did you?
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>>8277681
hug slug
growing your hair out again yet?
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>>8277684
nim i think you should lie down or try to meditate for a while. you seem to be in a very bad state of mind
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>>8277688
someone posted a picture from you in 2014 a week or two ago, you looked pretty feminine in it
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>>8277689
it's not edgy it's just dumb lol
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>>8277686
>i also don't like girls sorry anon
Well then, it's your lucky day
>>8277688
More cushion for the pushin', that's what I always say
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>>8277614
>>8277668

I forgot to add, but yes, when you put it like that, it all starts to seem very similar in the end.
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>>8277692
quite! *adjusts tiara*

>>8277693
.... *slam dunks you*
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no sympathy
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>>8277666
They stumbled in here last night and recognized me and we have since verified that we work at the same store

>>8277670
Well, I guess if you do want to tell me by all means, I can't be surprised by anything at this point.
This has been entertaining though, however I need to get to bed. Goodnight and good luck on the rest of the shift/surviving that piece of shit baler
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>>8277696
im anon
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>>8277646
So instead of helping me figure out how to dress for this ungodly body type you keep shoveling shit on me. Thanks.

Idk how long youve been trying to pass full-time but at some point it's a bit much when despite your best efforts those women's clothes make you look like a crossdresser and the whole world is aware of it. Im genuinely asking for help here. All I know is what I'm currently doing does not work out, I don't know what am I supposed to do instead.
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>>8277691
>tfw u don't belong here

>>8277694
I think so...
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>>8277710
it's obvious who you are just put your trip back on people care about you
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>>8277696
sniped
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>>8277706
>no sympathy
no sympathy
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>>8277700
still more bad news. i also don't like subby guys. i only like guys stronger than me that can overpower me and assert his dominance then give me cuddles afterwards
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>>8277712
https://www.longtallsally.com/us/
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>>8277713
>I think so...
good girl
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>>8277714
no
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>>8277704
*is ball*
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>>8277658
Well shit :(
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>>8277723
okay but at least try to get some rest or something please.
>>8277713
its their best song honestly
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nim is /ourgirl/
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>>8277720
Jesus fucking christ those pricetags
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>>8277712
>>8277720
go basic bitch. flip flops or flats, black leggings and a tank top with a cardigan over it to downplay your shoulders. wear your hair down and some makeup and make sure to have your ears pierced

keep your shoulders pushed back a bit when you walk, stand up straight and don't look down and puff out your chest a bit. practice walking like that so that it feels less awkward in public
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>>8277732
i love her
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it must be sooo difficult having a female face and being tall..

i guess i have it easy as a manfaced giant
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>>8277738
same
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>>8277730
why it's not even that late
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12953694
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ok so my plan rn
>half-starve (around 1k calories a day) myself for 2-3 weeks, maybe lose 7-10 pounds in that time
>slow down to 1.25-1.5k for a few months until i'm skin and bones
>put on girlfat
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>>8277739
please just do something else besides sit with your mom and feel bad
>>8277748
because when you are feeling bad sleeping is good
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>>8277734
https://www.bustle.com/articles/31858-the-9-best-tall-girl-clothing-sites-online-say-goodbye-to-too-short-jeans-and
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>>8277754
just don't eat for 2 weeks lol
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>>8277755
i slept most of the day today
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would you date this boy
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>>8277735
>flip flops with anything that goes below the knee
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>>8277761
no im not a lesbian
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>>8277761
naw he looks like a girl
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>>8277761
But that's a girl
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>>8277761
You posted a girl by accident.
Please post the cute boy I get to date.
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>>8277760
yeah you said earlier but laying in bed and reading a book or a comic can be good too
>>8277761
no but i would hold her hand and we could go to clubs and stuff looking for bfs together
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>>8277761
Only if she promises to transition soon. I don't date girls.
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>>8277652
I'm not really into anarchism because I'm a good girl and anarchism is evil.

But no, really, I guess I never got much into anarchism because I'm too much of a disgusting contractualist and was trying to read the classics first before reading new stuff? To write a book and be the new vanguard spearheaded by a tranny or whatever.

>>8277668
>I must say I very much appreciate the tone of your post
I guess I'm kinder when I'm tired.
And you are pretty sweet too~

>by the desire to create and share for its own sake, not by a selfish desire to accrue wealth
Sure. But shouldn't they be rewarded for it, and be given the means to do even more, larger, with more people?
Sure, a non-capitalist state may have devices to do such stuff. But capitalism gives an organic device for it. Provided it is not super perverted and twisted, of course, which it tends to be.
Plus, if someone can and will invent something great just because of himself and because he wants to get money, power and fame, should the person be stopped?

>seeing that the whole are indeed trampled as a result
I agree. That is why I want pseudo-fascist and not libertarian or some other thing: I believe the market institutions should be under, not above, not equal, not outside, but under the institution that represents the people.

>and without the need to force people to work under threat of starvation and exposure.
But someone has to, otherwise we'll all be starved and exposed. And if people have good reasons to work well and with passion - no matter if for love or greed - we'll all be even better off.

>and I think any fashy movement will ultimately serve the ethnic majority of that country
I don't know, even Mussoman did try and protect his jews somewhat.
And I'm a little biased, as the worst time of repression I went through was through commie phase, and directly tied to "group comes first", and seeing me as detrimental to the group if I didn't perform as expected.
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>>8277777
nice digits fagmo
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how to stop being clingy
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>>8277777
i don't have anything to read
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>>8277785
read the god delusion
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>>8277783
Cling harder until they become dependent on you.
Then you aren't being clingy you're just being there as much as necessary.
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>>8277783
did someone call you clingy or are you feeling bad for liking someone alot? i used to struggle with that alot too
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>>8277785
find a comic online and read on your phone then Hatarakanai Futari is a cute and funny mango about 2 neet siblings
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>>8277787
i gave that book to my mom when i was 15
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>>8277754
I think girlfat is pretty gradual so you won't make much difference by doing that

>>8277761
if he was nice to me
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>>8277757
>starvation mode
also i'll get seriously malnourished
i'm drinking like nutritional supplements to keep my calories low but my nutrients high
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hey y'all
whats up
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>>8277779
>>8277701
I'm really not sure how authoritarian or liberating a society can be before things start falling apart and maybe there's a golden mean for someone or maybe there's not and maybe the perfect golden mean for someone is as imperfect to someone else, but the minimal golden mean might be acceptable to many and I'm rambling, my cat is walking over my keyboard and I need to sleeeep.

I just know that most people don't see themselves as the villians and everyone kinda wants to make the world better and that is enough sometimes.
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>>8277797
>posts a girl before
>calls it a boy

what did she mean by this?
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>>8277794
i'll confess I've only watched the 90 minute video dawkins did but I thought it was actually really inspiring
its weird to me people can only find hope through god
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>>8277795
no but like
i probably still have boy fat, right
and i've been on hrt for like 5 months so when i do get fat it should be female
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>>8277798
hi grace
i'm posting on 4chan
what's up with you?
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>>8277789
>cling harder
ahhhh
[screaming internally and externally]

>>8277791
nobody has ever called me clingy but i can recognize it
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>>8277797
yeah i'd kiss that qt
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>>8277793
i don't really read anime

the only one ive read before is uzumaki i think it's called and i didn't finish it
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>>8277807
Not much, played videogames all day, went out to eat and got icecream, and I've been folding laundry. Just been a day off I guess. Oh and my heart's acting up but whatevs.
How's posting on 4chan going?
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I feel intrusive and alien wherever I go and idk how to shake this feel
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>>8277810
well if you can recognize it before they complain just pull back a little you know? that's what i do when I feel like I'm being annoying and too affectionate
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>>8277780
wow how did you guess that im a big fag
>>8277794
thats pretty funny
>>8277812
its not anime its manga REEEEEEEEE. uzumaki is alright but kinda boring desu its supposed to be like super scary i just thought it was weird.
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>>8277817
she said she liked it

but shes afk and hasnt said anything in awhile and im worried
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>>8277798
>whats up
my heartrate now that grace is here
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>>8277797
Aw shit yeah, I'd date them.

Date 'em so hard, hold their hands and shit so fuckin tight.

Watch cheesy movies that neither of us pay attention to cause we're doing busy cuddling, smoochin, and enjoying each other's company.

Make 'em romantic mixtapes and shit that are embarrassing as hell to give but they appreciate it anyways.

I'd date that girl you posted too.
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>>8277823
Hey same but that's cause I got a little tooooooo turned on
Happens every now and again
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>>8277735
How do you pull off tight pants with guy hips&legs? It looks so fucking awful on me it makes me want to throw up. My hair doesn't really work down, it's super fluffy and needs to be restrained. I've had it styled since the first pic tho.

I'll look into earrings at some point maybe.

>>8277756
Those sites are horridly expensive on a cursory glance. Im gonna have to take a look at asos when I get home though, it seemed to be the cheapest but their mobile site is down.
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>>8277797
olove why u delet. you're another one of those girls who were handsome as a guy and then became a cute girl
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>>8277814
yay ice cream. did you see a doctor about your heart? i remember you mentioned that a while ago.

4chanposting is going well. i'd consider it a success so far.
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>>8277806
my understanding is fat cells will be destroyed at roughly their usual rate regardless, and gradually new ones will be distributed in female places, so losing and gaining the weight won't necessarily speed up that process
could be wrong tho

>>8277816
have you tried meditating
or finding some intrusive alien friends
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>>8277828
im not actually aroused rn i just feel like flirting with everybody for fun
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>>8277810
Accept the cling, Embrace it, Love it
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>>8277819
i guess it's like a japanese take on lovecraftian stuff

it was kinda neat but i still gotta finish it
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>>8277840
I'm just being paranoid right
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>>8277822
property get busy sometimes don't take it as she's getting upset. if she didn't like it she would tell you :P
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>>8277834
I was supposed to this week but I scheduled my appointment at a stupid time and decided to reschedule to later this month. It's most likely spiro based off of what I've gathered so far. I think shit just gets imbalanced sometimes, not sure how to deal with it.
Though I do have arrhythmia and maybe something else
I'm proud of you on the 4chanposting!
>>8277836
Well I'm a big ol flirt but I gotta restrain myself cause I'm with my gf~
>>
I'm a joke
>>
>>8277842
there is another one by the same mangaka i can't remember the title but its where that 'this is my hole it was made for me' banner comes from. i liked that one a lot more
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>>8277850
ha ha!
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>>8277832
I dunno
I feel like posting pre-trans pics is kinda dumb and I should stop spamming the thread with pics in general.
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>>8277829
dysphoria is fucking with your self perception. it looks the same on you the same it looks on anyone else you just wear it and go in about your daily business
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>>8277735
I tried on a tanktop but I look like some sort of wifebeating redneck and my bust is not visible at all. Also wouldn't leggings show a ridiculous bulge on top of making the male figure very apparent?
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>>8277859
>it looks the same on you the same it looks on anyone else
lmao
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>>8277856
thats fair i guess. if somethings making you feel uncomfortable no need to keep doing it
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>>8277835
This is tru rate is around 10% of all fat cells a year
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>>8277859
I don't think any cis girls got a build like mine and they sure as fuck don't have to tuck
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>>8277861
learn to tuck my dude
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>>8277835
I am really busy and can't really meditate atm
Idk how friends work sometimes
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>>8277852
what's a mangaka

i read another one by the same guy where there were those human-shaped holes in this mountainside that were shaped like every person in this town

and people started being compelled to go into them, and then it started compressing as it went in when so when they came out they were noodle people
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>>8277869
I do tuck but one does not simply make matter disappear
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>>8277873
how big is ur dick
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>>8277874
Not that big. It just still exists even if I pull it back. Gonads hate hanging up there as well and pop back down every time I sit down.
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>>8277845
Probably, I feel insanely clingy all the time but usually it's just like the normal amount of interaction between close friends or whatever.

I think if you're a major introvert you tend to see things a little skewed just because it seems like a lot of clinginess to you since you're not used to being especially close with someone.

Or something like that.
>>
My gift of self is raped
My privacy is raked
And still I find repeating in my head:
If I can't be my own I'd feel better dead
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>>8277870
if you have 20 minutes free time before bed or after work or something you can use that time to meditate a bit. it actually feels really nice
>>8277871
its the japanese word for the comic artist the person who writes and draws the manga. yeah lol thats the exact one I'm talking about. that one was cool
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>>8277880
Hi Alice
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>>8277850
you are a decent human being

>>8277870
>Idk how friends work sometimes
if you figure it out let me know pls
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>>8277829
au.boohoo.com is pretty cheap
allegra-k.com is cheap too but the quality isn't that great
both have pretty cheap/free shipping to aus too
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>>8277835
i mean the thing is that, like
fat won't move itself
and for female fat to come in you ave to get new fat cells
so by stripping all your old fat you'll make sure verything you regain is female
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>>8277880
those are some scary lyrics desu
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>>8277881
why didn't you say author tho
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>>8277881
I think I meditate a lot but it can't save me all the time
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>>8277888
Thanks I'll make sure to check them out.
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>>8277861
tucking gaffs and bras exist..... wear a cardigan to cover the shoulders and get spaghetti strap tanks
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>>8277779
I think there's a way to reward those people without developing a system that produces mass poverty and inequality. I think capitalism was certainly useful, as an evolution from feudalism it's absolutely brilliant, and worked very well when resources were extremely scarce, but I think its run its course and is no longer relevant

There is a way to have market institutions without capitalism. See Mutualism.

With automation, we may not have to, and developing that infrastructure, with automation, is a crucial part of socialism. Also speaking as someone who has spent over a year as a NEET, it fucking sucks and people would get bored and seek fulfilling work after getting it out of their system. But think about it, we're like, what, 10-20 years out from domestic androids? That's going to change the labor market drastically.

Would you kindly elaborate on what you mean by pseudo-fascist? In practice, what does that mean to you?
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>>8277891
when you lose weight the fat cells themselves don't go anywhere, just the stored fat inside them
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>>8277896
Where can I get a gaff that isn't Amazon? Also what about bras? I'm wearing a padded push-up but tanktops really need cleavage to work and my breasts are so small and far apart it's physically impossible to squeeze them into a cleavage lol. I'll keep spaghetti straps in mind my current one is just a pyjama one.
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>>8277886
We'll I mean I understand the need for company and the need for help but I just can't work this vessel the way I used to
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>>8277893
because its manga so they are they mangaka. just like chinese have manhua and korean have manhwa. im not a weeb pls don't bully me
>>8277894
its not really a save you all the time thing just helps you deal with stuff and de-stress sometimes
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>>8277925
i think you might be a weeb

i still love you though
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>>8277918
https://youtu.be/JjZFhnFFItM

how to make a gaff

you don't need cleavage.
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>>8277847
do you think they'll have you switch to a different AA?
>I'm proud of you on the 4chanposting!
thanks, i practice a lot so i'm pretty good at it.
>>
>>8277932
I do this
>>8277918
This is a bad idea , no one sells a good gaff any more
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>>8277779
>contractualist
eww. desu i kinda hate vanguard shit too im the kind of anarchist who believes that revolution is probably impossible and even if it was i don't rly want to impose my will on so many i would rather they just die. pretty fucked up thing to say but its like half joking and half just the idea of all this disgusting shit in society being immediately destroyed i don't actually want to hurt people

if you wanna write papers and stuff and try to advance theory thats pretty cool tho. i just read others writings and try to decide what i think im too shy and insecure mostly to write my own thoughts
>>
i feel icky
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>>8277932
Ok gonna check this out later
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>>8277929
mby just a little bit. i love you too hope you are doing okay.
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>>8277942
idk if im okay i just don't like annoying people
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>suddenly feel like I actually look pretty cute and I can probably grow out my hair and go girlmode okay
wtf is happening
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>>8277946
you're not annoying please just try to calm down i don't want to be feeling bad if i can help it
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>>8277948
>not already having long hair
A G P
G
P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTWwGOi8-pE
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>Workout a bunch
>Feel good
>Eat one meal
>Feel fat again
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>>8277948
Welcome to dysphoria
>me yesterday
>I'm a big manly hon with huge dude shoulders
>me today
>look in mirror
>huh im actually cute and my shoulders are small and everything is okay despite my flaws
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>>8277948
being a good girl?

>>8277951
she did but cut it off
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>>8277948
ur woking up senpai
>>8277953
get natalie to hug and comfort you. also try not to do the starvation thing its actually really bad for your health even if it feels good in like a self harm way
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>>8277932
I've had a spare tubesock laying around that I wanted to replace anyway, gonna totally have to do this.
>>
i think the most practical application of a time machine would be to go back in time and scream at my 12 year old self to start hormones
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>>8277955
This was literally me the past two days.
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>>8277957
Reveal yourself anun!
Also I've never done the starvation thing. Well at least not a bunch and not recently.
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>>8277953
ur a big girl
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>>8277955
>where'd my hips go?
>I have hips!
>my shoulders are too big for my hips
>I'm a hon
>hey im actually kinda cute
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>>8277951
but short hair suits my rugged manly face

>>8277955
when day is dark always rember happy day
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>>8277970
>>8277966
I've noticed I'm more dysphoric when I lounge about in boy clothes instead of girl clothes
On lazy days wearing a boy t shirt is fine, but it makes me look more masculine and thus triggers the fuck out of me
I've been wearing girl shirts and pajamas lately and felt a lot better.
>>
>>8277952
It's like you ask to be brainwashed if you watch full hour opinion pieces on YouTube about something that is pretty clear cut.
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>>8277970
>dude wtf I look like a man in drag
>transition was a mistake
>feel like trash
>next day
>oh wow why do I look like a girl
>huh i didnt notice I look like this before


aaaaaaaaaaaaaa i want OFF this wild ride
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tfw your GF collars you
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>im ugly and manly
>im ugly and manly
>im ugly and manly
>im ugly and manly
>im ugly and manly
>im ugly and manly
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>>8277955
Are you sure that's not just being bipolar?
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>>8277979
you like it huh
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>>8277974
>democrats call for Comey to be fired
>Trump fires him
>wtf how could you?!
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>>8277982
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>>8277980
People in this thread say they're ugly and manly but they don't really believe it themselves even though they actually are ugly and manly.
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>>8277973
AGP imo desu.
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>>8277955
>pretty up and dress nice
>feel great
>friends and senpaitachi say I look pretty
>full of self confidence
>head to the city
>"There you go sir"
>"Thank you sir"
Mfw
>>
>>8277988
big if true
>>
>>8277948
>>8277955
>>8277970
>>8277977
see >>8277980
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>>8277979
>>8277983
Reeee get out!
>>
>>8277988
uhhh?
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>>8277984
yeah im pretty sure the democrats were saying he should resign for months after saying that shit about hillary right before the election. Its pretty sad of them to act like him being fired is a bad thing now.

Like either he did his job fine and he shouldnt have resigned when they wanted him to, or he didnt do his job and him being fired is a good thing.
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>>8277973
ugh, yes :(
I'm to the point now that I only really wear a guy shirt if I'm doing a lot of laundry. I just can't stand to wear guy clothes anymore. I can't see anything feminine in my face or anywhere in guy clothes :/
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>>8277984
>investigates hillary
>american hero
>investigates trump
>wtf i hate comey now
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>>8277984
You proved exactly what I mean. This is why Trumptards can't have a normal discussion with the left, the moderates, nor with any other country. You're addicted to that koolaid.
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>>8277994
don't worry you just need to """put in effort""" and you'll be flawless in no time hun xoxox
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>>8277989
I honestly am
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>Political talk still going on
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>>8277984

Comey's six foot eight inches tall. In a just world HE'D be president.
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>>8277965
sounds kinda like steinsgate but i dont actually remember what they did with the machine
>>8277967
im just anon again. although i did talk with someone from here outside the thread a bit today it wasn't u or nat so again you wouldn't know me. and thats good i had some eating disorder type issues for a few years but im mostly better now i think
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>>8278007
get that man on the court
>>
>tfw no bf / gf

>>8277988
i think i'm pretty cute as androgynous but i fail pretty hard as a girl
>>
>order a pizza
>open the door for the pizza delivery guy
>he says "hey man here's your pi- oh haha sorry ma'am, here's your pizza"
>y-you too
proof that I am a handsome husband
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>>8278000
I used to save girlclothes for going out because I didn't have much, but now I've gotten more, some with the express purpose of not giving a fuck days, so I have no excuse to keep wearing my old stuff really
I gotta bag all the boy stuff up and donate it!
I'm glad at least one of my old watches seems to work in girl mode, I might give the other to my little brother but it was like $300+ dollars so it might be a bit much since he's like 12
>>
>>8278001
he wasnt investigating trump tho
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>>8277999
both parties are shit they are almost the exact same shit just with different talking points in reality they both fuck around and do whatever they want not what they say
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>>8278013
put your shirt on properly missy you'll distract the boys
>>
>>8277998
4d chess
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>>8278011
that must suck getting gendered female
>>
>>8278013
Your room is fascinating.
>>
if you like donosaurus this is kinda cool http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/06/dinosaur-nodosaur-fossil-discovery/

if you hate donosaurus please don't be mad at me im really sorry
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>>8278008
they just paged ruka's mum telling her to eat more vegetables kek
>>
does anyone here know who cybot is?
>>
>>8278019
i agree. thank god i dont live in the us. instead i have a cuck prime minister who would rather prep the bull for his wife while my province burned to the ground
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why is estrofem so much more expensive than progynova? does it matter which you get?
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>>8278013
That is one dirty room and one puffy nip.
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>>8278028
who?
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>>8278021
OH NO THERE'S MORE THAN A DOLLAR'S LENGTH BETWEEN MY KNEE AND MY SHORTS, COVER THE BOY'S EYES BEFORE THEY GET ERECT!
>>8278024
I'm glad! It's cleaner now, tho. Been putting away a lot of clothes, and that big mess in the back is a slightly cleaner mess
>>8278031
My nips are the puffiest
>>
>>8278013
are you building a cup tower
>>
>>8278023
well he said man first and then apologized so he definitely clocked me
probably just trying to be polite
>>
>>8278013
clean your fk room wtf grace
>>
>>8277984
In the letter he says Comey said there was no need for a Russia investigation and the firing wasn't about that. Why would Trump say that?

That's child level of political manipulation. Trump is a literal retard even if he was innocent.
>>
>>8278013
shoulder and bewb
>>8278011
proof you are not
>>8278027
that was the phone i don't remember what they did will the fullsize. i don't really wanna talk about this more i wish this board had spoilers in case someone hasn't seen/played it yet
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>>8278035
its ok grace i too have shirts that hang off my shoulder like that.
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>>8278009

It's anti-tall discrimination and nothing but.
>>
>>8278035
>COVER THE BOY'S EYES BEFORE THEY GET ERECT!
Sorry, Grace, I didn't close my eyes quick enough.
>>
>>8278039
real bummer that he corrected himself after more than a quick glance and gendered you right
>>
>>8278024
I want a panoramic shot desu
>>
>>8278013
You should clean your room and wear your clothes properly. Maybe fix your hair too.
>>
>>8278048
getting gendered correctly doesn't count if they know you're trans
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>>8278035
>Its cleaner now
She said for the 100th time two years in a row.
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tfw collared, high as fuck, snugged up to gf

good feel
>>
>>8278029
well i disagree with that as well canadian parties are mostly the same shit as well. i don't think trudeau is doing anything much different than what the pc or ndp would be doing. like especially what the results they actually bring would be in the end it all barely any different
>>
>>8278025
hecking cool
>>
>>8278053
he didn't know you were trans you fucking mong he called you a girl
>>
>>8278059
REEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>8278059
did u traveled
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>>8277977
There is no end 8-)
>>8277994
tru
>>8277992
>is this your sister?
:-D
>no, /he's/ my /brother/, boyname
D-:
>>8278035
>wearing dresses shorter than ankle length
The state of women today baka
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>it's another episode of mtfg talking politics

i hate reruns
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Come on apathy, heal me from inside
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>>8278056
Grace never changes. If you expected anything different from staying the same then you're dumb.
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>>8278013
I was saving them too but now I just keep washing them. When I get paid I'm going to buy some tall tees and maybe a polo shirt. I have some super comfy lounging clothes; yoga pants, pj's, tanks and an over-sized tee.
>I gotta bag all the boy stuff up and donate it!
I'm going to do this soon! I don't have much, but I was thinking of donating it to some ftm's on reddit or somewhere, though I can't afford postage so maybe I'll just donate locally.

>>8278059
>collared
I'm super jelly right now
>>
>>8278063
I live in Melbourne, misgendering a transperson here is punishable by death
>>
>>8278041
>there was no need for a Russia investigation and the firing wasn't about that
http://time.com/4773237/donald-trump-letter-james-comey-fired/

>While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three seperate occassions, that I am not under investigation.
>I nevertheless concur with the judgement of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau.
>>
henlo help pls

>>8278030
>>8278030
>>8278030
>>8278030
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>>8278066
nope

>>8278065
I'm not a normie
>>
>>8278068
wow your brothers a jerk, you should fuck him
>>
>>8278078
Hemihydrate forms are more difficult to synthesize
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Oh god all these (You)s
>>8278036
I'M BUILDING THE BEST CUP TOWER
IT'LL WIN BIGLY
>>8278040
"WORKING" ON IT
>>8278043
What bewb
>>8278044
It's fun to wear them like that but I'm too insecure to do it in public
>>8278046
Hooooot
>>8278052
I'LL DO WHATEVER THE HECK I WANT ANON AND YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE A HOOT
>>8278056
FORREAL THIS TIME
Check it
>There aren't towels on the floor
>I have clean clothes on my bed I'm folding
>floor is a little cleaner and less garbage on my nightstand
>>8278068
Feminism is ruining our trannies
>>8278073
Grace
Grace never changes
*walks off into the Mojave wasteland*
>>8278074
I got paid and I'm gonna figure out how much I can spend on more summer girlclothes. I got some shorts I'm not sure fit me or not. My mom was supposed to go shopping with me today but she ghosted me ;_;
> but I was thinking of donating it to some ftm's on reddit or somewhere
I've thought about that, and giving away girl clothes that I've bought that didn't work on me here
>>
medroxyprogesterone-acetate shots vs estrodiol pills.

These aren't the same chemical, so why do some trans women use only 1 but not both? I'm confused.
>>
>>8278070
Just remember you voted for this clown show.
>>
>>8278080
did she traveled then
>>8278083
agreed on both points
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>>8278080
God damn I am jelly as all fuck.
>>
>>8278086
It's funny until you realize what you really look like.
>>
>>8278086
wtf pantsu doesnt go on head
>>
>>8278089
yep

>>8278090
it's ok anon you will find someone to collar you
>>
>>8278084

does that mean that estrofem is inherently better than progynova, both for oral as well as sublingual administration?
>>
>>8278088
that was mercury
I know that all blacks look alike to your democrats, but iirc korra didnt vote
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>>8278086
agp Grace is cute when she smiles wtf
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>>8278030
afaik hemihydrate (estrofem) is maybe a little better due to the metabolism (hemihydrate levels off a bit slower in the blood iirc) but it doesn't really matter. Also i think you can take estrofem sublingually but not progynova

>>8278086
god will punish you for such hubris
>>
>>8278061
i dont think other parties would explain their cabinet by telling the report what year it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLk2aSBrR6U

He was a snwboard instructor who only got to be prime minister becuase he has a pretty smile and his dad was a past PM.
>>
>>8278098
thats so cute :3 happy 4 u 2
>>
>>8278099
No. Your body metabolizes medications differently based on a number of factors.
That are impossible to predict. Estradiol hemihydrate may work well for you. It may not. Estradiol valerate may work well for you. It may not.
>>
>>8278101
i am impressed by your memory anon
>>
Is there concensus here?


* Bica

* estrodiol

* spironolactone

* progesterone

* cypro


What the fuck why isn't there concensus??? Which are the best and why? What is mtfg on?
>>
does anyone have problems with clenching their jaw?

my jaw is hurting really badly lately
>>
>>8278124
Do you smoke?
>>
>>8278104
>>8278109

ty sluggu and seiryu
i guess i'll just have to try each one and see which metabolizes better with my body?
>>
>>8278124
get a mouthguard silly. during the day purse your lips but keep them closed so they are between your teeth
>>
>>8278118
>spiro
made me dizzy and pass out a few times

>cypro
made me want to kill myself but blocked T really good

>bica
going on it after i come back from my trip, hoping it works as well as cypro without making me wanna die

>estradiol
the bees knees, can't recommend enough

>progesterone
im gonna go on it after i hit a year hrt, apparently it gets your tits nice
>>
>>8278124
My brother does got a special mouth plastic thing and it helps him at night. It's like a mouth guard in a way but like braces but that don't move your teeth the invisible braces
>>
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>>8278118
everything has pros and cons and different things are more suited to different people

i'm on decapeptyl and estradiol valerate

>>8278127
idk how you'd be able to tell that really
you'll likely be fine just sticking with whichever
>>
>>8278125
no
>>
me rn
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>>8278118
take estradiol injections and cypro
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>>8278110
I dont think I will ever forget the 2016 election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNtYmdZ-4c
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>>8278106
the its the current year shit is a funny meme desu. idk i think other politicians would just reply with some equally stupid shit or make a generic response and dodge questions about why all the people they appointed are old rich people. stephen harper was a mail room assistant or whatever lol it doesn't really matter.
desu im mostly anti government but when i see people like just supporting one side i have the impulse to argue and shill for whichever party is or at least claims to be the most progressive even if i know like what i said before its all mostly the same shit with only small differences. its a stupid habit and i need to work on it i don't think internet conversations trying to persuade people even do any good 99% of the time
>>
>>8278140
Alright. Then I dunno.

>>8278141
Sleep snug, smug
>>
>>8278144
HEY i just linked that song to someone not 10 minutes ago. get out of my chats!
>>
>>8277932
What kind of pantyhose and socks should I buy for a gaff? The video is very unspecific and there's a billion types of pantyhose out there
>>
>>8278086
For some reason that image made me think of this >.>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ht6J8LPVvs
>>
>>8278141
sleep snug, smug.
>>
>>8278132
This is *exactly* why I'm asking, because I just passed out and puked and sick of the peeing from Spiro and cypro made me suicidal and I don't care what anyone here thinks, I miss being able to PENIS FUCK my girlfriend so yeah. I saw cis tits and a few others discussing Spiro and how shit it is at higher doses and for longer periods of time on my lunch break but I'm home now so I wanna join this discussion too.
>>
i am going to dox korra
>>
>>8278118
just cut your balls off and plug your estro pills
>>
>>8278150
I'm not in your chat!
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>>8278086
Pantsu on head Grace is pretty cute, not gonna lie.
>>
>>8278086
>Oh god all these (You)s
It's the young passer life, embrace it
>>
>>8278124
wtf same


tonights listening....a customer recommended it to me..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcNfyBJILZE
>>
>>8278151
tube sock
literally any pantyhose with a waistband

>>8278158
pls no :(
>>
>>8278159
plug?
>>
>>8278141
sleep snug, smug.
>>8278158
no
>>8278155
get an orchi or srs
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>try to update distro
>proprietary driver for laptop card no longer supported
>open source one is a pile of shit and I can't do dual monitor
End my existence
I'm switching to debian instead
>>8278141
Sleep snug, smug
>>
>>8278169
stick them up your butt. its the most patrician to dose ur druggs
>>
>>8278167
How do I know the waistband is not too loose or tight?
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>>8278095
It can if I want to!
>>8278103
<3
I should smile more often
>>8278104
I think he already does
>>8278152
I did that with Kari's panties. Dunno if I still have that selfie tho lmao.
>>8278163
I'm glad you like my new look!
>>8278164
But anon said I don't!
>>
>>8278172
post your korra dox
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How's everyone doing tonight?
>>
>>8278155
just try bica, ive been on cypro for 8 months so stuff is atrophied a lot but im okay with that

im hoping to do bica/finasteride/injections
>>
>>8278174
trolled by nvidia?
>>
>>8278177
you're killing me dude. just buy the biggest size you can find
>>
>>8278180
I have some information on her but I never release doxxes
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>>8278155
cut your balls off
>>
>>8278188
do you have any information on me? i'm anon
>>
how do i trick someone into loving me
>>
>>8278187
Ok lol. Sorry im no expert on pantyhose
>>
home...

>>8278124
I've clenched my teeth so often, I pushed my molars into the jaw bones.

>>8278181
Coughing a lot. Otherwise OK.
>>
>>8278191
tfw i want this more than ffs atm
>>
>>8278181
nice hair boo
been a lil while
I got pizza
how you been
>>
>>8278193
I know everything about you. I am you.
>>
>>8278202
I'll let you know how mine goes. Only $3000.
>>
>>8278204
i want a corgi pupper to help me be less lonely in my apartment ;~;
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>>8278198

Why are you coughing? I'm a medical professional I can help!

>>8278203
Thanks! Yeah I stopped posting because I was afraid of bully. Yummy pizza!
I pass better and better each day and it makes me so happy. I started a job and got a car so I'm no longer NEET. I'm like, 75% less loser.
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>>8277707
I only started working here like 4 weeks ago this is bullshit I've never even worked grocery why am I fucking closing
>>
should i give this dude a piano woman or a marsblast he asked for pianowoman first but changed for marsblast for some reason ahhhhhh
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>everyones saying cypro makes u depressed
should i be taking something else??
>>
>>8278209
They're too cute for humans
>>
Looks like Elanna has a stalker.
>>
I kind of hate you no offense
>>
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So the Orient on the left actually works pretty well with girlmode, I've gotten some compliments on it surprisingly
I dunno if I can wear the Alpinist on the right anymore, though. I really like it but I'm not sure how I'd pull that one off. And my lil step bro's watch broke recently so it might be a good time to hand it on down.
>>
>>8278213
cause grocery stores don't give a fuck and just put you where they need someone
>>8278217
nah i think in lower doses its prob best aa most of the time
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>>8278222
im sorry
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>>8278217
>Already depressed
>Take cypro
>Nothing changes
You too can beat the system.
>>
>>8278225
hugg
>>
>>8277888
Boohoo doesn't seem to sell tanktops or anything else really that I was recommended and their "tall" catalogue is for people shorter than me anyhow :/

The other site has like 3 items per search.

Thanks for the tips it was worth checking out at least.
>>
>>8278210
The humidity is to high, so it triggers an upper bronchial attack. My body will adjust over the next hour, and it will stop.

>>8278217
only if you are having bad depression issues.

>>8278223
I never got into watches. I did design a few in the past, but no money to pursue making them.
>>
>>8278238
I found them fascinating and really neato but there's not much of a women's market for them. What does exist is trash, Kate Spade, or very expensive. Good thing I like Spade.
>>
Ive adapted to a high humidity semi aquatic lifestyle
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>>8278226
there are good days?
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>>8278181
CUUUUTE.
so jelly X3
>>
>>8278243
I wish I had the money to make a few batches of different designs I have. I designed them to be nice looking art pieces that were cheap to make.
>>
>>8278247
>there are good days?
good days are the ones where you get a good sleep and dont wake up feeling more tired than you were the night before
>>
>>8278259
I cant wait to get one of those I got so much stuff to do
>>
>>8278259
unrefreshing sleep is one of the symptoms I have. Really sucks.
>>
>>8278181
Woahhh you got cute fast
>>
>>8278217
I'm on cypro and I got super depressed for the first 2 months. After that the depression vanished.
>>
>>8278265
same. iv heard its from spiro
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>>8278259
you can do that?!
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>>8278223
Supposedly men's watches are kind of "in" for women now.
I've been wearing a stainless Swiss Military on occasion. idk if it "works" for me, but I like it and I'm currently kind of andro anyways so I go with it.
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i wanna do sex with this guy but i dont think he likes girls so i guess i would need to pretend to be cis
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whats the most polite way to tell a girl that flirting with you that you don't swing that way without being offensive? :s
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>>8278275
I just figure a big ol colorful diver would work for a tomboy sort of look and it ended up working
I dunno, maybe if I wear the green one with a look like this it'd work
Probably need a different band
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>>8278118
it's not "one size fits all"
>spiro:
honestly why the fuck would you take this? it's like the in between option and you have to piss like crazy
>cypro:
if you hate your genitals / libido. will nuke your testicles
>bica:
if you want to keep your libido

i was on bica for 5 months but switched to cypro bc i really don't like the 'aggressive male libido' and am hoping cypro calms me down a lot
>>
>>8278280
"I like dicks and men and sweating and men's dicks"
>>
>>8278280
"sorry i really like you as a friend but im not a carpetmuncher"
>>
>>8278280
just dont reciprocate?
>>
>>8278284
>>8278285
you sluts made me smile
>>
>>8278284
whats the best way to causally bring up how much i like sweaty men and penis
>>
>>8278238
ah, okays. Still hope you feel better quick!

>>8278256

Hehe, thanks <3

>>8278266

I know, right? I love whoremoans. Also the hair helps.
>>
>>8278291
"have I ever told you the story of how much I like sweaty men and penis"
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>bf said the best girls come with chew toys
Wew
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoU34diw9q0

This kid does makeup better than I ever will, the fuck.
>>
>>8278295
Yeah your hair is adorable, I'm jelly.
>>
>>8278296
hmm solid approach it seems thx olove
>>
>>8278272
I get mine when on medroxyprogesteron or spiro. Mine is from CFS.

>>8278295
it's already settling down some.
>>
>>8278273
I actually didn't even bother to go to bed this night. I just stayed up the whole time :/
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Yisss, folding is mostly done, I can sleep for tonight.
Also trying to teach my gf to bully me is kinda weird but fun
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>>8278307

I haven't gotten a good picture of it yet, but I really like to wear it like this (it's in a ponytail)
The colour is Light Golden Blonde (I spent hours looking up pictures of the different types of blonde hair before deciding)

I really love ponytails.

>>8278313

Thats good!
>>
>>8278298
>Wew
Ew*

But actually that's kinda cute
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>want something
>can't get something
How does one reconcile this difference
>>
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>bathroom has a motion detecting fan
>it was quiet
>suddenly turns on
Time to grab my gun and scary off the spookies

>>8278318
Ponytails are cute but I prefer your hair down, but that's me, you do you
>>
Kiss me
http://imgur.com/xAhzD9s
>>
Yr body breaks
Yr needs consume u forever
>>
>>8278328
only silver bullets can kill a ghost
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>>8278317
Vibes on nips.
>>
>>8278338
She's starting to get it. We might not be so incompatible after all.
>>
How do be a prostitute
>>
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>>8278331
pic related

>>8278328

I look a lot different (10x better imo) in person or even on cam than in my pics. It's kinda frustrating. Like I said, I haven't gotten a good picture of it yet.
>>
>>8278331
I would kiss those lips
>>
>>8278318
I would sit on your cute face desu
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>>8278352
Aw, that'd be very nice of you I'd probably like that.

>>8278328
>>8278346
Okay I'm trying to get comparable quality photos here. Tell me which you like better. Ponytail.
>>
sorry for being an idiot
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>>8278361

No ponytail
>>
>>8278366
Not who you were asking but I like down better, you are seriously so pretty I would never guess you were trans.
>>
>>8278366
>>8278361
I'm not sure if it's the angle or the hair or both but it seems like having your hair down really compliments your jaw
>>
>>8278369

Aww, thanks!!

>>8278375

Okay that settles it. Even though it might be the angle
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>>8278381
I'm sorry if that's a little mean it just kinda was more apparent in the ponytail pic for me. Might be angle or me purposely looking for masculinity or something. I just wanna make sure I'm saying helpful things and not being too hugboxy or mean.
>>
>>8278386

Oh that's completely fine! I really appreciate it!
>>
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>tfw tons of thirst but no release
reeeEEE
>>8278185
amd
Updating to ubuntu 16.04 completely fucked things up and I can't do dual monitors without one of them disabling itself
>>
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>>8278013
CLEAN IT CLEAN IT CLEAN IT
>>
>>8278395
grace is her own woman
>>
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>>8278408
Grace is a slatternly, unkempt harlot whose disgusting room shames us all
>>
>>8278408
Nah, she's my woman.
>>
>>8278412
please stop posting these scary frogs. grace can do what she wants desu
>>8278415
k just don't abuse her please
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>>8278415
im yours!
>>8278424
and uhm, christina doesnt abuse me at all, it's kinda crazy to have such a stable relationship
she takes really good care of me
>>8278395
>>8278412
working on it...
i'd post a picture of a drawer full of clothes i folded today
but i dont feel like getting up rn
christina made me feel all fuzzy and warm and i dont wanna lose that feeling
>>
>>8278424
Who are you, the Grace Protective Services? She's always been a bit of a punchbag for the thread.

Even Zna understands that.
>>
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>>8278424
Don't worry, I'll take care of my puppy.
>>8278434
Good girl. <3
>>
what do you do when you're savagely misgendered by a pair of strangers who clock you and ask
>is that a male?
which results in you feeling extra miserable for over a week later.
asking for a friend
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>>8278435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U
>>
>>8278434
i didn't think she does i was making like a half joking response when she said you're her woman even though i know she is prob joking. idk i don't rly like the idea of people controlling others
>>8278435
no im just anon.
>>8278441
okay
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>>8278451
i shouldn't like people controlling me after all the stupid shit it's gotten me into in the past but i just kind of need someone to
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Does anyone have one of these, but for transgirls? Or is it the same? I feel like I wouldn't want to highlight my chin
>>
>>8278462
>>
Honestly I just beg for death 24/7 and pretend to be happy and making progress
>>
>>8278447
Dumb Grace, go pick up a feather duster and make that room presentable.

>>8278451
>idk i don't rly like the idea of people controlling others
Get it together, you milquetoast
>>
>>8278458
it's different when there is consent idk these things after nuanced and difficult. I wasn't accusing you or her of anything
>>
>>8278466
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>cut finger earlier
>apply toner to face
>finger on fire
oww :(
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>>8278451
>i know she is prob joking.
I mean, I'm not really joking. She *is* mine, but she's mine to take good care of.
>idk i don't rly like the idea of people controlling others
She'll be safe, don't worry.
>>8278458
It's fine, you just need a good domme like me to protect you.
>>
>>8278476
b careful fempai
>>
>>8278478
I meant joking about controlling in an abusive way or something. sorry
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Bully me until I kill myself
>>
>>8278484
Ah. It's fine Anon.
>>
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>>8278487
Same.
>>
>>8278469
but of course
if i cant take care of my own room how can i be a good housewife
>>8278473
well, just relax, this is something that was decided on after a relationship with her and i formed outside of this context
it's just a kinky thing we do for fun
>>8278478
yea
>>8278487
charlotte whats wrong
>>8278492
her eyes look like mine
>>
>>8278493
yeah I know and I think that's fine sorry. I can't express myself well or make sense I think
>>
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what did they mean by this
>>
>>8278487
You're quite similar to Grace, y'know - you're both dumb, but you're also a lot meaner for some reason too.

If you were both dogs, Grace would be the kind of dog that keeps eating things that make her sick and sometimes tries to hump the electrical sockets, whereas you'd be the kind of dog who just randomly attacks a baby one day, and everyone will say what a nice dog you were until that one time you killed a baby.
>>
>>8278504

>>8278504

>>8278504
>>
>>8278502
I'm stupid but I'm not that bad! I'm a good doggo! I'll bark at the mailman and lick my owners face lots!
>>
>>8278493
I'm wondering whether or not to say fuck you to my mom on mother's day, as the most hurtful way of saying goodbye I can think of. I can't tell if I'm going crazy or not, but I don't think that working to appease her will ever satisfy her. There are no more lies I can tell to get more money and stall, there are no more ways to convince her I'm perfectly fine and don't need fixing, and there are no more ways to beg for emotional support.
Best case scenario, I never have to deal with her bullshit again. I don't care how much she's giving up to look supportive - she doesn't care and never will.

>>8278502
Sorry for hating everything when I'm exhausted.
>>
>>8278328
Guns are illegal, I'm reporting you to the Queen.
>>
>>8277315
>girl
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