Are there any ftm camwhores or is that just a cis girl thing?

>>8266426
It's almost impossible to find a cuntboy cam. Tons of MtF's though

>>8266426
Buck Angel.

>>8266426
I am FTM and do sex work but I have no had top surgery because its extremely expensive and my tits are helpful moneymakers so pretty much all my sex work is like Very Femme to satisfy the (usually cis man) who paid me.

I don't currently cam though. It's led to bad situations before.

>>8266426
I wish cis women could donate their bodies to AGPs in need.

>>8266426
>These images
Okay I understand that the whole "girls are AGP too!" thing doesn't apply to the "teehee I'm such a girly waitress I have a boner ^_^" sort of fantasies but look at these camwhores. That's AGP as fuck.

>>8266540
What's it like identifying as male but playing the role of a hot girl to get guys off?

>>8266579
Do cis girls schlick to their photos like OP's?

>>8267881
Put them on T and I'll bet you they will.

>>8267901
Hm, interesting thought.

>>8266426
Why would anyone even pay for a hairy manlet to wear microkinis like in your pic to begin with?

The market for camwhoring is based on lonely cis males. Usually between 20 to 40, overweight and virgin.

They literally want waifus and sluts like in your pic.
Unless you're a repressing FtM that doesn't take T or haven't had any surgery you basically won't ever find a slot in that world.

Let me end this with one more point, you have no idea how much dysphoria you get by having to wear a dress when you're FtM. I had to deal with that while growing up and it's hell.
I feel manlier working on my amazon warehouse job than I could ever be by camwhoring for neckbeards.

>>8268007
>you have no idea how much dysphoria you get by having to wear a dress when you're FtM. I had to deal with that while growing up and it's hell.
Elaborate?

>>8268026
>Elaborate?
I'm not sure if you're cis or not but I will use this example was you're a cis guy.

Imagine if your mother treated you as her daughter no matter how many times you told her to stop doing that.
Imagine having to wear dresses because that's what your mom bought you when you were young and had no money for clothes and then having to go to school while wearing said pink dress.
It's pretty fucked up and this is just scrapping the surface since I'm just talking about clothing and how your mom treats you.

>>8268088
I'm mtf but I can't relate because clothing wasn't a big deal for me, maybe because male clothing is mostly pretty unisex.

Can you describe what's unpleasant about it? Like, what kind of unpleasantness the feeling is?

>>8268088
Imagine not being such a pussy and getting a job and buying your own clothes.
Imagine being your own person and not depending on your parents for your identity.

>>8268215
He was a little kid at the time...

>>8266426
How is that bitch gonna wear those dead ass shoes with those hot ass outfits?
Seriously do straight guys not look at shoes?

>>8268254
So she can go out running on the beach or whatever.

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>>8266426

>ywn be a sexy woman
>ywn make straight guys' dicks hard

>>8268215

A+ reading comprehension.

>>8268175
>Can you describe what's unpleasant about it? Like, what kind of unpleasantness the feeling is?

In short it's extremely humiliating.
Specially if you had parents like mine when growing up.
You're treated like a child that can't do anything by themselves and also have to dress like a pretty princess.

In your case a example that would fit would probably be something like your dad wanting you to be a lumberjack or football player and asking you why you're not as manly as he wanted you to be.

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>>8268266
You go running on the beach in these if you're wearing that.

>>8268287
It's like this but a lot worse.. Imagine during the 1930s being a nigger and having to basically wear a sign saying you're a nigger. Not only humiliating but it's something you don't want to be AT ALL yet you're being forced to wear something to confirm that you are in fact that. It's horrible.

>>8268175
What is it you can't relate to?
Didn't you see all the other girls wearing nice clothes, having long hair, being skinny, and pretty? Something you know you'll never be, and you'll never be allowed to do.

You're just that ugly person, too ugly to wear anything girly.

>>8268287
>>8268325
I see. I just find it hard to imagine being humiliated by something that's socially acceptable and didn't single me out as being dressed weird.

The lumberjack and football player thing is a bit different because those are actual activities, not just presentation. Although of course I know there is pressure like that for ftms but I'd separate behavior pressure from presentation.

Being treated like you can't do anything for yourself I can understand being unpleasant. How bad were your parents with that?

>>8268715
The importance of not wearing something.

I definitely felt jealous of girls for what they worse and other things, their bodies, their hair, how they got to act, everything. Attractiveness was a big part. But I didn't feel a dislike of what I had to wear as a boy.

I don't mind lots of boy clothes or boy style clothes even now, although I really like girl clothes too of course.

>>8269648
My entire family kept asking me when I was going to get a bf, have children and marry.

People actually expect you to become a housewife and mother one day so the lumberjack fits in the example since it was aimed for a MtF.

>>8269661
No offense, but if you can't understand at all and never disliked being a boy or being seen as one, then you're just effeminate but not trans.
>>8269648
I hated that a lot too, when other people tried to lift things or do things for me I'd fill with inexplicable rage and I didn't know why for a long time. The worst part was being sexualized as a girl and not being able to form real guy friends because of that.. Especially when you just want to scream "I'm one of you, how do you not fucking see that?"

>>8269675
The social/behavioral expectations I totally understand. It's the presentation ones I can't relate to.

>>8269690
I do dislike being seen as a boy. I don't mind wearing those kind of clothes. I'd love to be a cis girl but I'd still wear the same kind of clothes I did when I was fully male presenting sometimes as well as girlier thing other times.

>when other people tried to lift things or do things for me I'd fill with inexplicable rage and I didn't know why for a long time. The worst part was being sexualized as a girl
Now this I can relate to! I feel the total reverse of both parts!

>>8266540
Post pics

>>8268007
I'm going to assume that OP is one of those cisguys who think that ftms are just tomboys. When in fact they mostly look like men and have tons of body and facial hair from taking testesterone.

Most of them lose interest right away when they realize that.

>>8273647
>When in fact they mostly look like men
haha

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>>8273670
hurrr

>>8268007
Which warehouse? I work at one too

>>8266426
I knew a trns guy who was a stripper, he paid his way though college and for his transition.
Now he's a handsome chad and all i feel is jealousy that I didn't have an easy way to make money to fund a super fast and successful transition.
He got to go from pretty girl to handsome guy while i had to go from awkward ugly boy to sorta ok looking girl.

>>8273681

Is this that FtM that looked male to begin with? I think not because that guy seemed taller, like 6'1".

>>8274336

How tall is he?

>>8273681
>one cherrypicked photo = most ftms
durr

>>8266426
I've been considering it to fund an apartment and support myself. It would be hell and I'd probably break down every night, but I'm pre-everything and might as well use it for the future.

>>8276490
How can you call yourself a guy when most guys would happily camwhore as girls if they could get money that way?

>>8276520
That's dumb as fuck honestly. I don't need some rando's approval and regardless of what I am, I need cash

>>8276530
I only wanted to know how you handled the cognitive dissonance.

>>8266540
What bad situations did caming get you into?

>>8274380
5'2, which I didn't find that odd since I was born male and am still under 5'4

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>>8276556
Yea, sorry for getting defensive. Being treated like a woman makes me wildly uncomfortable. I guess cis guys don't have to deal with that very much

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>>8274380
this? he's 5'7

>>8275161
are you assuming 16 year old tumblr girls are most ftms?

>>8277326

Yeah, that's exactly the guy. I thought he was taller. Still, he looked remarkably like a man before testosterone. I wonder what he looked like in childhood photos.

It's incredible how the odds work, for some extremely small percentage of trannies, they will look like the sex they want to transition to before HRT but after puberty and some other small amount will have bodies that would be considered top-tier for their natal sex and would transition terribly.

>>8277326
are you assuming buck angel is most ftms?

Are >>8274380 and >>8277326 the same guy?

>>8266426
hott

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>>8267256
it's god moding because you're basically a fag in a woman's body

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>>8266426
There are plenty of FTM Can whores.
This is 4Chan -- I used to assume this place had the 411 on the hard to finds but that isn't true.

I can name a few. However, the best ones are all gay. The 'straight' ones are try hards and are boring with a splash of cringe.

>>8286358
Even grosser than dickgirls.

>>8277326
You have his name/social media. He's handsome. Is he gay ? More pics ?

>>8286358

>torso looks great and manly
>can't not see a feminine face

Do gay FtM cam whores usually use the front hole?

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>>8286389
Not even. Dicks are gross. There is nothing aesthetically pleasing about them. They look even worse on 'women'. Flat out bizarre.

>>8286395
You will rarely see them do anything exclusively anal. They all seem to prefer PiV or DP. The guy I posted here does indeed do anal play but he's one of the very few and still prefers PIV action.

>>8276602

I guess that is something cis guys don't mention or even talk about.

How do you feel about being called a bitch or faggot ? I really get off on being a chauvinist and flat out reference some of the guys I fuck as women. Its super hot for me.

But then again if I did refer to an FTM as a female in anyway it would utterly ruin it for me.

>>8286413
>Dicks are gross.
Yup, that's why cuntgirl > dickgirl > cuntman

>>8267256
It's a pretty interesting role playing experience. I'm certain some people have very negative opinions on the concept of being a trans man who does sex work as a big-titted chick who gives great blowjobs, but I mean, I compartmentalize it since it's work I suppose? Like in Flintstones, it's like the dinos going, "It's a living!"

Sometimes to make me more like sexy-responsive i have a fantasy in my head, it's kinda thrilling tho im not going to lie especially if i'm doing bjs or anal i can kind of have a fantasy silently going in my head i'm actually a guy who the man paying me made dress up as a woman Maybe that's a little weird?

>>8276587
People in real life found out what site I cammed on and tried to find me. I had to completely disappear because I couldn't let that come out at that time. Haven't done it in a while.

>>8272920
there's plenty of females in frilly bras with E cups and nerdy glasses online anon

>>8286715
phrasing on the last sentence was bad. I am a trans man, but in the fantasy to make me alittle more physically into it i'm a biomale guy.


also sorry for triple posting im a dumb

>>8286715
Are you going to transition and have top surgery eventually or are you non-transitioning?

Is it dysphoric acting as a sexy girl and presenting as one? Is the sex itself dysphoric? Do you not do PIV?

>i can kind of have a fantasy silently going in my head i'm actually a guy who the man paying me made dress up as a woman
The thought of being biomale dressing up as a woman isn't dysphoric from the dressing up part?

>Maybe that's a little weird?
It matches the mtfs who while presenting as guys imagine they are having lesbian sex with their girlfriends/wives.

>>8286738
Why couldn't you let it come out? How did you disappear?

>>8286478

I like degradation stuff in the heat of the moment, but feel bad afterwards usually. Just fantasizing though. I've never actually had sex

>>8266435
Cishets are the biggest porn market and they will always be the biggest porn market. And neither cishet women nor men want to see FtMs on cam so there isn't a market for it. Whereas a fuckton of cishet men want to see MtFs undress and/or have sex on camera so its one of the most popular types of porn.

>>8266540
>the (usually cis man) who paid me.
>usually
?

>>8286797
Ok numbered list time

1. Yes, I am about to start T.

2. Sometimes it can be dysphoric but I am usually dysphoric anyway so I could be dysphoric in my crummy apartment or I could be dysphoric while making money. The sex part is whatever. I'll admit I do PIV less often than some workers.

3. Crossdressing doesn't bother me too much compared to the "my body is physically wrong" dysphoria. I have some social dysphoria hangups but above all: My body doesn't match what it feels it should be, and if I was a biomale I would be comfortable crossdressing.

4. Cool, I'm statistically not completelyweird.

5. Long story short: It was going to ruin my relationship with almost everyone I know if it came out I was doing sex work. I collected all the money/tokens etc. I'd earned from the sites I cammed on, torched the social media, and had a friend who read one of those books on disappearing online help me delete basically every trace of the persona I was using at the time. This was a few years ago. I only really started using social media period again about six months ago.

>>8288591
I've had a couple biologically female clients. I don't remember if any of them were any kind of trans.

>>8289375
What can be dysphoric about it? Only physical things like PIV or other factors too?

What social dysphoric hangups do you have?

>and if I was a biomale I would be comfortable crossdressing.
Would you be comfortable presenting female full time as long as you were fixing your body?

Why would the sex work have ruined your relationships? Did you move apartment too or was the disappearing just online?

>>8286738
Pretty please post pics

>>8286738
>there's plenty of females in frilly bras with E cups and nerdy glasses online anon

Lol. It's sad that FtMs are more woman than I or any other trans "woman" will ever be.

>>8289652
Just ask him to post a frilly-bra'd girl who looks like him.

>>8289662
FtMs feel the same way about MtFs, no doubt.

>>8289688
I actually think trans women are bigger failures as men than trans men are failures as women. Which is weird, because FtMs usually pass better.

>>8289732
Failures how?

Trans men pass better for biological reasons.

>>8289752
Because trans women are generally unattractive as both men and women, are physically weak and overly emotional because of hormones, unable to financially support themselves, overly dependent on family and partners, socially inept, introverted, etc. Whereas most trans men can still look good as butch women, and can have all the best qualities of a successful woman (sexual and social capital within a given community, financial stability, etc).

>>8289792
>physically weak and overly emotional because of hormones, unable to financially support themselves, overly dependent on family and partners, socially inept, introverted, etc.
Cis women make do. I suppose this is why they transition.

>>8289825
Interesting, if transition was as reliable for trans women as it was for trans men, we'd have something of a crisis on our hands (an influx of neo-girls leeching off the system).

>>8289846
I don't know, for whatever reasons most men avoid believing they benefit from being women even when it's true.

Fuck, I accidentally hit back and lost my whole reply. fuckin hell

>>8289488
PIV is sometimes dysphoric but its more the general feel, what the client says and does to me, things like that?

Most of my friends aren't trans, maybe a couple are, and so I feel a little uncomfortable when I'm in a group of either all men or all women because I have anxiety over not being treated "like one of the guys" in the former and the latter... Well, I don't know how many people are familiar with this, but I've ended up dating cis women who identify themselves as lesbians, while not indicating that we're like "over" or whatever? Which ID how you want but if you date someone who tells you they're a trans guy and you call yourself a lesbian because he has a vagina... he won't want to date you much longer. So I mean, social dysphoria is present. It's just harder to explain. That's why I'm not sure how I would react if I was presenting female full time as long as I got all the biological stuff right. I still don't think it would be right. I don't have much choice to not be read at female by most people being so early in transition, not good at masculizing makeup tricks, and having to work really hard at the voice. Plus even in a binder EEs can be a handful.

At the time I was applying to a lot of jobs teaching kids about comics and cartoon making and appreciation and these were often at museums and private summer camps and that information could potentially wreck my chances forever in the field because summer camp politics and drama can be super fucked. I just disappeared my cam/sex personae.
>>8289652
I can dig through and see if I have any but I switched storage devices, IDK where the backups is. A friend of mine might still have a pic of that tho.

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>>8289662
Hey, don't think that way. By the standards of everything but singing folk music and people who I get off for cash, I'm terrible at being a woman. I tried really hard but I couldn't hack it. And there's still lots of things about womanhood that I appreciate, that I acknowledge were once part of me, and still impact my life.

I have known smart, clever, goofy, beautiful, thoughtful and great women who were trans in my life. I know it can be really hard for a lot of people who are MtF but just because our dysphoria crushes on you and on me just in different ways doesn't mean it wins, and I wish it wasn't hard for either of us. I believe in the people we are and the people we become.

>>8290772
What is your most severe dysphoria, that's driving you to transition, about?