/acegen/ - bingo edition

>>8214338
>Do you experience a lack of sexual attraction as described here http://imgur.com/pdIxHYc ? Congratulations, you're in the club.
The wording in your pic is unclear. Does it cover AGP or not?

>>8214950
No it doesn't

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Hey!! We got a cute discord server going :3
Come hangout in voice, play videogames and watch anime together? Or maybe use the nsfw channels and post lewd stuff or just enjoy it.

Join in now! https://discord.gg/kMHssvy

>>8216831
>>8216831

>/acegen/
>use the nsfw channels and post lewd stuff

what did you mean by this?

How to become asexual? If I cut my balls off will I stop getting attracted to people?

I'm tired of the cake meme. People already think there is something wrong with us, obsessing over cake is so fucking stupid and autistic.

>>8218811
Sorry anon
>>8218511
Why don't you try it and report back later?

>>8218485

Not all things that are nsfw are sexual in nature.

Why would asexuality be LGBT? LGBT is not "everything that's not straight". You can have cross-inclusion by being homo/biromantic or trans but asexuals are allies of the LGBT community if there's no cross-inclusion. Homoromantic cis aces aren't LGBT in the same way that polysexual cis straights aren't LGBT

>>8218485
They shitposting porn for fun

>>8214338
We need to change the "congratulations, you're in the club."

>>8218511
Probably not, you'll just have no sex drive. They are different.

>>8220831
>Polysexual straight
wot m8
Asexuality is debatably in LGBT. LGBT is literally "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual", but it's used more as an umbrella term and you know it.

When people use the slightly longer thing that for some reason exists, LGBTQIA, the A is for "asexual", not for "allies". We might not usually face the same level of issues others in the main LGBT may face, but we do absolutely face things. For example, I've had friends ask if I'm into objects or animals. Pretty sure nobody else faces those questions usually. Pretty sure some of those whom I'm out to thing very oddly of me.

>>8221282
You facing "things" does not mean you're automatically in the LGBT community? You face issues that are not theirs - namely, systematic oppression. Social oppression (people don't understand me!) applies to every form of sexuality that isn't real boy puts dick in real girl missionary style but doesn't automatically make you LGBT any more than someone who claims their sexuality is furry shit or BDSM and society makes fun of it

LGBT can be ALLIES of asexuals and viceversa, and again, you can be romantically attracted to same gender to be in LGBT or trans but just being asexual doesn't mean you're LGBT? LGBT is literally a community and a platform centered around support for people who face systematic persecution and oppression GLOBALLY for loving same gender/sex persons.

Asexuality is a real thing that deserves basic respect but it's not an LGBT thing and trying to butt in and claim it is makes LGBT people dislike you

Because if you look at the inverse, it's like polysexual people (people who love more than one romantic partner equally) who are exclusively straight saying they're LGBT because they're persecuted because they can be jailed for marrying multiple partners in the US and/or a woman having multiple husbands/partners is absolutely socially outcast

They may be persecuted in a manner but they're not fucking LGBT because they don't love people who are the same sex or gender as they are

It's not oppression to say asexuality needs to get its own platform to be properly heard instead of trying to speak over gay and trans people who don't think you quite belong

>>8214338
I'm not ace, what is the meaning of cake?

>>8221554
Ask Marie Antoinette.

>>8221554
AVEN keep repeating the joke that we'd rather share a slice of cake (than have sex). It's supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, but mostly it's just denigrating.

>>8221442
Tell that to literally every queer group in my area. The two closest to me both openly welcome asexuals- one's got the A included in the acronym (for asexuals, not allies), the other just goes with Queer and explicitly includes us in its description. And that's saying nothing of the larger national and international groups that include us as well. Hell, the LGBT community wasn't always those letters- there was a legitimate, long-running debate about if LESBIANS should be allowed into the "gay community", because it was said that they didn't face enough oppression to qualify. Then the B was added on after lots of lobbying by bi people, then the T, and so on. The acronym changes to suit the community's needs. You can complain all you want about it on this particular corner of the internet, but in real life, most communities have long since included us.

>>8223908
You're included If you are homo or biromantic or trans

Exclusively hetromo cis aces - exclusively hetromo cis ANYTHING - has no place in the LGBT community

>>8224597
And yet, incredibly enough, no one's stopping ace people at the door and demanding to know our romantic orientation or gender identity before letting us into these spaces. Almost like they consider asexuality a non-straight orientation on its own, huh? Also, you appear to have forgotten about the existence of aromantics, who are not "hetromo", biromantic, or gay and yet make up a good percentage of asexuals. Where exactly do they fall in?
Anyway, this is /acegen/, not /tumblrdiscoursegen/, so I'm gonna try to get this thread back on track. Anyone have fun summer plans? I'm getting ready to go to the beach with a group of my friends for a few days.

>>8224815
I mostly have fun plans regarding wearing plenty of clothing and wishing for the fimbulvetr.

Also, we DO have our own Discord! It may be small and it isn't perfect, but it is our own little safe harbor in these stormy waters.

https://discord.gg/WqcpsU8

>>8216831
This is not the /acegen/ discord, by the way. This seems to be an /lgbt/ discord

>>8216831

Not the /acegen/ Discord

Link is in my previous post.

Also, I've c/p'd the OP post and pinned it, as well as adding the Discord link. Next time we hit the bump limit/get deleted on spurious grounds, it's there.

>>8226346
Hey, remove the "you're in the club bit". Seriously, sounds like it gives the wrong impression.

Can we please stop using that bingo card to start the thread?

>>8228894
Well I didn't have any idea what else to use

>>8214338
>you're all sociopaths

kek what if I was diagnosed as a sociopath

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>>8226503

Just did!

>>8228894

Well, what do you suggest we use instead?

>>8231456

Find a job where that could be an asset, like a stockbroker (you don't care about your clients, just the money) or a lawyer (Less likely to be swayed by a sob story, thus getting you that filthy lucre).
Picture related

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>>8228894
>>8232320

>>8232498
Don't think those were all him
Also why did you make a new image and proceed to make it off-center

What's up, pussies?

>>8232783
whattup big guy

>>8232783
Hey dude! Was starting to wonder where you got off to.
How'd ur week go?

>>8232783
Had finals, then I have more finals on Monday. What's up for you?

>>8218511
Yes
Believe me anon, I did it

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I don't think I'm actually ace. I've identified as ace for the better part of 7 or 8 months but now I'm starting to figure out that my body image issues (dysphoria/dysmorphia) are more prevalent than my lack of sexual interest. I've never not liked sex or the idea of a sexual relationship, it's just that for a very long time I've been too uncomfortable with my body to feel like I could handle being that vulnerable to someone. now that I'm figuring this out, I'm not really sure where I stand.

can anyone else relate?

>>8233973
>>8235135
>>8235774
I haven't busted a nut in so long I might aswell be one of you guys now.

Do male aces don't feel the need to masturbate just to ejaculate? I start feeling a pressure in my balls and discomfort just from all the manjuice build-up over time.

>>8224597
/had/ no place, anon. Asexuals are already ingrained in LGBT culture in my local area, and likely many others. You might not like it, but it turns out your approval was unnecessary.

>>8237175
I still masturbate about 3 or 4 times a week because I feel the need to (ie dick gets sensitive erections and it's logical to try and calm it down). I've basically got a schedule of doing it when I wake up on the days where I don't have to go anywhere straight away, which is basically every second day
I don't use porn and I don't think of having sex with anyone, if I think of anything (which I don't always) it's the thought of other guys jacking off

>>8214338
>I get romantic feelings for people, but it's never the same person that I want to act my sick perversions out with. What kind of sexuality is that? Also I never think about sexual intercourse.

>>8237790
What sick perversions are you talking about?

>>8237816
This. Please explain.

>>8237175
I mainly do it out of boredom, though if I go a few days without fapping I'll get a case of sensitive dick and set aside some time to deal with it. Never really felt ball pressure tho.
How long was the build up? I hear that the body tends to urge you to ejaculate pretty consistently for the first week of nofap, and then it starts reabsorbing the semen for protein and cuts down on hormones that cause the urge.

>>8237867
Probably fetishes

>>8232320
Yea, but I've learned to try and care about other's feelers

>>8237175
I masturbate like every other day. I absolutely feel the need to get off. I'm just the only one who I'd want to be handling it.
Can't say I've ever experienced the pressure in my balls though. Then again, I've also never had a wet dream.

Sometimes I'll do it out of boredom, sometimes because I've woken up and I'm hard, sometimes because I just kinda want to do it. Sometimes I'll use porn (albeit highly fetishized stuff, and much of that doesn't even work; I really just use it, in specific finding it and spending time finding it, as a distraction for myself), sometimes I won't. Much of the time I'm just thinking about stopping and going about my day, though. I guess my primary motivator to finish is so that I can spend the most time not doing it later.

Just because you haven't masturbated doesn't mean you're asexual. It just means you haven't masturbated.

Do any of you asexual people enjoy sex? I mean, if I'm not hungry, I can still eat a slice of cake and enjoy it, but not as much as I would have if I were hungry. So is sex like that to you? Can you enjoy it without loving it?

>>8239404
I'm disgusted by the very thought, to the point it would kill my erection
But that's just me

>>8238374
>then it starts reabsorbing the semen for protein and cuts down on hormones that cause the urge.
Everyone who brags about being on nofap that I've asked admits to getting wet dreams
As long as you're not just trying to overcome a porn addiction, it makes no sense to me to reject yourself the ability to ejaculate in a controlled environment to avoid mess

>>8239404
The thought of having sex with someone that I love kills my erection

>>8244923
what gave you the erection to start with?

>>8246505
Maybe cake.

>>8247150
don't be this guy
nobody likes this guy
have your (you)

>>8246505
plenty of things can give someone an erection

>>8244923
what about with someone you hate?

>>8248283
>plenty of things can give someone an erection
that does not answer the question, which was specifically directed at the anon who mentions a specific erection
your comment contributed nothing

>>8244923
why?

>>8244923
this

>>8244923
Same.

>>8237760
why are you jerking off so much if you are asexual? why would you even think of guys jacking off at all?

>>8238374
>Never really felt ball pressure tho
Try out a month of no ejaculation and then report back

>>8239088
>Can't say I've ever experienced the pressure in my balls though. Then again, I've also never had a wet dream.
Try out a month of no ejaculation and then report back

>Just because you haven't masturbated doesn't mean you're asexual
I know, that's why I said "I might aswell", l2read

Also, dude, you are fapping every other day while looking at porn, how the fuck are you asexual?

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All these replies confirm that "asexuality" is just a meme.

>>8251842
>Try out a month of no ejaculation and then report back
Your body should ejaculate during your sleep when necessary. For me it happens each 3 weeks aprox.

>>8251842
>why are you jerking off so much if you are asexual?
less than once a day is not "so much". Ace doesn't mean your body lacks the natural need to ejaculate, it means you psychologically aren't interested in having sex with another person

>why would you even think of guys jacking off at all?
I wish I knew

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Help me /acegen/

How do I recover a lost libido?

I'm gray, closeted about it, and in a relationship. Usually I've managed to have sex just fine (even though I don't really care), but recently, my libido has plummeted. It all used to work as long as I would warm up by fapping first, and not concentrate too hard on the fact that I'm actually having sex (which is kind of a turn off).
However, recently, I got kind of sick, and my lack of energy has started to show up with a lack of libido as well. So far, I've tried bettering my lifestyle habits by exercising more and eating healthily, hell, I've even been on some medications (notably Wellbutrin and fucking Ritalin) that usually supposedly increase it, but to no avail. The health issue is still under investigation, but I'm poor and this commie country's universal healthcare is incredibly fucking crowded, so it's probably not happening any time soon.

Is there anything I can do while waiting for docs to figure out what's up?

>>8236006
You should honestly take your post to a trans thread. Frigidity due to body image problems is not uncommon in trans people, I've heard, but I don't think aces can really sympathize with what you're feeling, because we're just indifferent, not conflicted.

>>8252773
Yeah, but it is not the same, you don't release all while sleeping. If you keep going it gets worse afterwards, try it out.

>>8253600
Dude, once a week is more than enough to clear the pipes. You are jacking off more than non-ace people.

is cuddling considered a sexual/partner exclusive thing?
Would someone who has a gf be comfortable cuddling if they knew you weren't treating it as a partner thing?

>>8256470
Different people have different feelings towards it. It's an intimate activity and as such, that person would probably not be comfortable with it. In particular, their gf would probably flip out.

Is there some highly developed name for such a condition as mine - I like spending time with friends /a few times in a week/ and making friends with complete strangers, but if said friends want to meet "too often" (read: four times a week), I get this automatic reaction to give excuses why I am not available.

In high school I really started hated hugging my friends once we started the routine of hugging each other every morning. I've reasoned with myself that it was the feeling of being forced to hug others every morning that somehow completely killed the good vibes from it. Otherwise I don't avert touch.

Am I just terribly autistic asexual or is there someone else with similar experience?

>>8256681
You're introverted

>>8256681
Hello routine anon
I just say autism

>>8256681
Actually, it might just be fear of commitment, on second thought

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>Ain't into having sex

>Ain't into making love

Is he /ourguy/?

What does sociopathy have to do with asexuality? I don't get it.

>>8262916
it's most likely just a meme that follows the logic "sex is a normal social thing so if you aren't interested in it you must be a sociopath"

>>8261990
He is not our guy.

>>8262916
I don't know. One of my friends is in a strained relationship with an actual sociopath, and pretty much the only thing holding it together is the sex. That's basically all he sees my friend for.

>>8214338
>There has never been an attractive asexual person

Really makes you think.

>Tfw gf just broke up with me because she wasn't okay with me being asexual as she thought she would be

feels bad man

feels bad when I hear you're a man you're supposed to want sex

>>8265366
Stop trying to date people with normal sexual desires. It will NEVER work unless you allow them to fuck other people.

>>8265396
I don't know anybody else that's ace. live in nebraska

>>8265129
You say that, but you've zero evidence.

>>8265414
Unfortunately then, you'll probably have to look into moving if you want to date. Kinda shitty advice but you don't have a lot of options

>>8265764
yeah probably. I'm moving soon because last year of my degree.

any qt ace girls who like cuddling and old b-horror movies need a roomie pls repsond

>>8265764
Can't prove a negative. You only need one example to disprove the lack of attractive aces. Can't do it?

>>8265941
Are you trying to ask for tits/dick pics?

Asexual Catholic here. Is anybody else here religious? If you are an atheist/agnostic, have you considered dating a religious person?

Obviously asexuality is different from chastity/abstinence and you would have problems in marriage, but wouldn't there a relationship with a religious person have a higher chance of success for an asexual/sexual partnership?

>>8255710
Fug, nobody is helping. I suppose there isn't much more that I can do, then.

it honestly requires a shocking lack of empathy for a hetcis person to think they're entitled to queer spaces, so the fact almost all aces do think that proves to me it's true, you mostly are sociopaths

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>>8267196

>>8267196
They are just snowflake wannabes. They are not even good enough to be the annoying queer that revolves his life around sexuality so they revolve their life around something they are not interested in, it's pathetic.

It's like, say I am not interested in cars, I keep talking all days about cars, how important it is that people like me who are not into cars get recognized by the car community, go to car forums to talk about gardening, etc.

>>8269379
That's a false analogy. Naturally nobody likes cars. Society trains people to like cars. Sexuality is different, and you know that.

The best way to refute an argument is to provide an example that invalidates it. So: imagine a figure who has publicly spoken on how cars are not good, about how the best mode of transportation is any which is powered by one's own efforts, such as bicycling, skateboarding, walking, etc. Just as this person would claim that they'd prefer a non-car approach to handle their transportation needs, we can claim that we don't need another person to handle our needs. The person might, for whatever reason, not see any reason to really go anywhere; likewise, we might just not feel the need to do anything, with anyone.

This same person might find that it would be nice to find other like-minded people, and seeks out a community of others who share his philosophy. They can discuss alternatives to cars, or what have you. Assuming they've managed to live their lives just fine without cars, they can discuss what they've done or whatever else.

Similarly, here we, members of the asexual community, are able to discuss our lives and how they differ from non-asexual people, or how we cope with life. You, as a non-asexual person, are welcome to participate in such discussions, however you must be aware that the community does not revolve around you; you are not inherently the primary topic of discussion, not should you ever be. Much like the person who dislikes cars attending a car-related convention, you will always be an outsider who will not completely understand what is going on around you.

Clearly, we are not discussing anything analogous to gardening at a car forum. In this general we often discuss our experiences with dating, or cuddling (basically an analogy to sex for us), or what have you. Basically, we have analogous and relevant topics of discussion. Your argument is invalid, and the evidence is all around this general.

>>8269379
There is literally a general on this board right now for people with small feet, and you're still here complaining about a thread about an atypical sexual preference on a board that revolves around atypical sexual preferences (and gender identities).

I'm seeing a girl who describes herself as demisexual

I did a little research but it mostly just said "kinda asexual"

anyone here that can shed a little more light for me? I want to understand her

>>8270530
"Mostly asexual, until they like someone, then not asexual"

("I want attention and to be different so here's a new word that describes something that totally isn't unlike a lot of people")

(Get out while you can)

>>8270017
>atypical sexual preference
lol, wrong

>>8269544
lol, wrong again. the person you describe is talking about skateboarding and cycling which are means of transportation, and he aslo shouldn't be in the car convention, as you shouldn't be here.
you don't belong, you have no place, no community, only your meme "sexuality."

>>8270530
It means she isn't interested in even considering sex until she cares about someone emotionally first.

Whether that's actually a sexual identity on its own rather than just an added conditional on top of a regular sexuality is another matter

>>8270530
Basically it's "I won't want to have a sexual relationship with you and maybe I will want to if I know you well enough" aka "I'm a normal person but I wanted to slap something on because all the sexual imagery in media made me feel abnormal to not want to bone immediately"


>>8270017
>>8269544
I leave for maybe two threads and you dumbasses are back to taking the bait with this guy. Stop, you're going to just make the gen go to shit with your "debates"

>>8271091
Wrong again implies I was the original person.

You clearly lack the ability to critically read and to form coherent arguments. Good day, sir.

>>8271481
The way I see it, what's really the harm? None of us feel bad as a result of what he says; he deals us no real harm. At worst he merely harms himself by wasting his own time. Why would I not encourage him wasting his time? Plus, our responses can be of help to others. He ultimately works against his own cause.

>>8272525
wrong again, retard. "again" doesn't necessarily mean that I am talking about the same person

>>8272689
If you took your trip off would you die?

>>8270530
I find all sexual labels to be quite dumb. Having said that, if I *had to* identify with one it might be demisexual. Like others have said, mostly asexual until you meet someone who you have a strong connection with, then your not.

Personally, I'm not a fan of sex, I find it boring, however the one person I've enjoyed it with was my first girlfriend, other that I have sex at least once a month, never enjoy it. I only keep doing it because I'm hoping I'll run into someone who I enjoy it with once again. Since it's always an unpleasent experience, I'm very close to giving up

>>8272689
If you took your trip off would you die?

>>8262916

Probably the logic is that since everything in life seems to be centred around pasing on ones genetic legacy, one who does not feed that need does not care for social niceties or anyone else but themselves.

In other words, the Smug Ace Stereotype.

>>8265396

Many of us are submarines silently running. We don't have our own apps like Embr or whatever, so we don;t know if we are the only ace in our local area unless we surface.

>>8272689

If you took your trip off, would you die?

>>8262916
Asexuality frees you of one of the instincts that rule most people's lives amd cloud their judgment. It makes you better at reading people and knowing what they're feeling (no wishful thinking caused by attraction) but it makes you worse at empathy, or actually *feeling* what other people are feeling (because one of the main human feelings is not part of your experience.) A lifetime of faking it teaches the asexual a sort of superficial charm. These traits are associated with sociopathy.

>>8266159
No, it wouldn't help. Not with a Catholic, at least. Catholics believe that the only purpose of marriage and sex is babymaking. So not only is it a sin to have extramarital sex, to treat same-sex couples as legitimate, or even to use birth control with your straight spouse, but it's even a sin to have a childless marriage!

There may be other, less insane religions that could make it work, but still there'd be a lot of friction caused by the fundamental difference in worldview.

>>8274287

Partly true, partly false :)

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>>8274333
Impressive trips, my friend.

>>8274287
mmmm not entirely agree. I have no sexual desire, but I do feel atraction towards people. Like imagine looking at your favorite painting, it's very pretty, you love looking at it, but you don't want to roll around with it.

However, I would say I have some *slightly* sociopathic tendencies which I don't assoicate to my sexuality (or lack there of)

>>8266159
I'm an atheist, as long as my potential couple doesn't want to drag me into their religious bull, we good

>>8274556
That must be nice. The closest I ever feel to another person is something like the feeling of having money in my wallet. I know it's there and I can use it if I want to, but it's completely interchangeable with others of its kind, and I'm not attached to it beyond its ability to benefit me.

>>8272791
>>8273935
>>8274087
It would be extremely painful... For Acegen. Imagine if you didn't know who was shitposting and who was just me talking shit like usual.

>>8272525
the harm is that you're shitting up the thread and scaring away good convos with the thread being 80% "debates" and 20% actual conversation.

>>8276087

Ever wonder why he seems to focus on /acegen/ a lot?

It kinda feels like how there are people who rail against teh gay very loudly, yet a scandal emerges months later when they are discovered in a roadside no-tell motel with a rentboy.

Something you not admitting to yourself, BigGuy?

>>8277310
If we take off his pants, will he die? ;^)

>>8214338
How do you define sexual attraction?

I know who's attractive and who's not, I'm not blind, and I have wanted to be close to people before. I'm in my mid twenties but I've never dated anyone and the only reason why I'd want to start dating is because that's the norm and being in a couple would give me more financial stability. I don't know if I'm not keen on having sexy times with people because I grew up in such a conservative family or if I'm just wired differently.

Does that just mean I haven't met someone I can be sexually attracted to or am I doomed to be alone for life? I've tried masturbating before (fem anon here) but I get disgusted mid way and never could finish. I'm not against the idea of romance but I have never been romantically attracted to someone. Part of me thinks that if I'm in a relationship with another person, I may be open to sex? (Then again, I had thought that I would enjoy masturbating like this mind blowing thing everyone kept saying about but look at how that went.) Since that's all a hypothetical at this stage, I don't know if I should classify myself as asexual or not? I'm so confused.

>>8278529
Have you ever seen someone and thought "I want to have sex with that person"?
Because that's what sexual attraction is, as far as I understand

>>8278544
So "I want to be that person and have sex" doesn't count as sexual attraction? I'm asexual after all!

>>8278544
No, that doesn't seem to be a rational train of thought? Who the hell would see a person and immediately think of sex?

>>8278544
This >>8278553 is me (>>8278529)
Not the anon before.

>>8278553
>Who the hell would see a person and immediately think of sex?
I know a lot of people who act like this. I can't relate to them at all but from my understanding of people there are definitely people who think like this

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>>8277310
>>8277445
delete this

>>8278707

Sure must get hot in that heavily fortified closet of yours, what with all that bluster and rage.

Come out. Stop lying to yourself. You'll feel a lot better when you do.

>>8278707
It's okay. It comes down to this: are you able to answer >>8278529 and tell them how sexual attraction works for you, or are you... Not able to?

>tfw nobody understands sexual attraction

>>8283463
>tfw not even LittleGuy does

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Leave him alone, he has saved acegen from 404 uncountable times

>>8266159
Was raised Catholic, am an Atheist now. I would not date a religious person. Their family would probably hate me since I wouldn't give them grandchildren.