I don't know how to talk to this boy...

>>8204493
Why do gays always call guys boys? Straight men literally never call other men boys, so why do gays do it?

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>>8204516
iunno. I called him boy because he's the smol babyface type. if it were a bulky guy I would have said guy or something.

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>>8204516
MY BOY

>>8204493
>>8204549
Also Nagisa for the love of fuck leave him alone, his dad doesn't love him.
He doesn't need your gay shit on top of it.

>>8204493
Just push him around. Squeeze him from behind and breathe down his neck. What's he gonna do, get in the Eva? Don't make me laugh.

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>>8204691
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>8204713
if hes straight he will probably resent you and think you are some kind of disgusting freak tho.

>>8204516
boipucci

>>8204516
Because boy is a cute word. Man seems so self-serious, "the plight of man".

Also in OP's case he is clearly in High School so the subject is literally a boy.

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>>8204729
Yeah, no kidding.
>>8204493

Ok, OP, i'll actually give you serious advice.
Your first and only possible step is to start by being his friend.
Yes, he will shut down 90% of your conversations.
He's a loner and stuck in this mindset where every single other person is judging him, making fun of him behind his back, and anyone trying to strike conversation is actually baiting him into a situation where they'll make fun of him, or just get bored and abandon him.

Be prepared for anything ranging from him calling you a fag and telling you to get away from him (aka he's not talking to you because he figured out you're gay and he's extremely not interested), to him being very spergy and prone to spurts of anger.

I'm not saying any of these things will happen, but they COULD happen.
You're about to poke at a nest of hornets, so be prepared for the worst case scenario.
If you really, really care, then don't give up and keep trying to be his friends.
By sheer repetition you'll become "familiar" and if he's interested, an initial infancy of friendship might be born.
Then you can explore and make more bold moves starting from there, but it'll take time.

>>8204493
In any case keep being nice to the school shooter type, it might save your ass one day.

>>8204773
I laughed then realized i was laughing at my younger self.
Fml.
Where the fuck was OP when i needed him?

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>>8204770
I'm stuck. should I feel the way I do? part of me just wants to be nice and be friends and the other wants me to actually find out if he's into guys and maybe see if he's an ok guy. it's really stressing me out

>>8204859
Just be his friend first and test the waters

is this whole thread like one of those animes or something

>>8204859
>part of me just wants to be nice and be friends and the other wants me to actually find out if he's into guys and maybe see if he's an ok guy

The two parts can coexist.
Step 1 try to be his friend.
Step 2 once you're his friend see if he's into dudes.
Step 3 once you're sure he's into dudes, see if he's into you.

If he's not into dudes/into you, then that's basically it and you still have a friend (assuming he's not weirded out by it all).
Anyway just take the risk, go for it.
The guy is probably miserable, there's the possibility you could brighten up his day (and his life, even).

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>>8204894
could you guys give me some conversation starters or things I could start with so I can keep the conversation going

well if ur already asking other ppl i his life (systers friend?) about his sex preferences, i think u need to ask tsa to kys
literally would blacklist u as a friend

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>>8206715
I'm not even sure if he knows I had someone ask for me. the person who asked left me anonymous too

>>8204493
If he was cute people would talk to him.
Get unrealistic standards like every other gay and crush on a straight jock with a six pack.
God.

>>8204516
It's strange. Everyone uses 'boyfriend ' / 'girlfriend '.

>>8204493
Maybe he's just antisocial or shy?

Sit next to him and ask him about something. Maybe compliment his hair?

>>8204493
>He always sits alone and never talks to anyone
>he kills all of my conversation starters
>she thinks he's depressed because of how he isolates himself
>she thinks he's straight but she doesn't know

60% chance of being a repressed transwoman
25% chance of being a lonely gay guy
15% chance of being a lonely straight guy

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>>8207045
I wanna talk to him but he kills every conversation I try to have with him and then I end up looking like an awkward idiot

>>8204493
Stop being a shinji u twat

>>8209030
why do you pilot the Eva

>>8207048
How in hell can you conclude there's a 60% chance of him being a repressed trannie from that?

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>>8213754
hoping for that 25%

>>8208960
So start by getting him used to your presence. Some people are just shy and introverted and need wheedling out of their shell.
Also, greet him when you see him. Make sure he knows you notice him.

>>8204493
>He always sits alone
Crawl under the table and suck his dick.

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>>8215220
how would I start talking to him?

>>8204516
Straight men call women girls. So it's less than a gay thing and more as how men refer to potential mates.

>>8217137
You don't, at first. Just get him used to being around, then start trying to start conversations about stuff. Like the weather; it's always a good conversation starter.

If he's busy with something, don't try bugging him about it. That'll just piss him off.
He's probably just an introvert, or maybe a little autistic.

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>>8220571
wouldn't that be kinda awkward though?

Communicate via text. It makes social contact easier for him. Let him know you're gay early on, but don't make any suggestions that you're into him. Drop hints. Like that you find him attractive. If you end up being good friends, it'll be easier to move on to serious flirtation. Also, if he's really depressed, him finding out that someone finds him attractive could go a long way in helping him, so either way you could be helping this kid, by being with him, or by being his friend.

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>>8223680
how far in should I give him my number

>>8223753
Open up a conversation on literally anything. Ask if you can have his number late in. Works best if conversation is based off of schoolwork that he's better then you at. Might take you a few days, maybe even weeks. You've got to gently probe for conversation interests. Pushing too hard could make an introvert feel uncomfortable so be cautious. Maybe you'll get lucky and hit it off in a day, never know.

In this day and age he probably just has online friends he wants to spend time with and is just being bored as shit at school because he's tuned to interacting with close friends he knows online rather than actual people, who he assumes are more trouble than they are worth and will just bring problems.

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>>8223816
does that mean I'm fucked?

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>>8223795
i feel like asking for his number would be too forward and just giving him mine would be easier

>>8223864
I mean, maybe. It really depends. It's like the other people are saying, but they aren't bringing up the possibility that he isn't just a total introvert with no friends just waiting to be cracked open, he could be an introvert who feeds his social needs elsewhere and doesn't have the ingrained desire for social interaction that would pay off in the end.

>>8223872
Asking for his number gives him some control over a social situation he's probably not comfortable with. Also, if you give him yours, he may never initiate contact. Go with your gut on this OP.

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>>8223931
ok. I'll think about it

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If you try to talk to him and he shuts you down, he doesn't want you. It doesn't matter why - just don't waste your time going after him

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>>8204493
update: I'm gonna talk to him on Friday

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>>8224003
but>>8204770 said that I should keep trying if that happens

>>8226135
Depressed People sometimes make the worst relationships Tread Lightly don't be Trapped

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>>8226182
what if being his friend brings him out of his depression?

>>8204493
He sounds like an introvert. generally, you're going to have to force conversation on him until he opens up to you.

Just assume he's straight for now.

>>8223513
Yes, but that's to be expected.

>>8204493
Sit down next to him and ask if he wants his cock sucked

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>>8226742
is there a way to make it not awkward?

>>8226863
Get him used to you and your ways.

Otherwise, the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Offer him treats, especially if they're home-made. At first along the lines of #I got everyone X, do you want some', and later make/obtain stuff just for him once you know what he likes.
Once you're friendly, give him something small like a badge and see if he wears it.

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>>8224060
another update: we've got confirmation that he is actually depressed and isn't just an asshole. but that brings us more problems. what if it isn't just a phase? what if i cant break through to him?

>>8227096
If he's not an asshole, there's a way through. Be friendly to him feed him, give support and companionship.
Should be fairly easy to get him to imprint on you.

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>>8227163
isn't depression a mental wall you can't really break though?

>>8204493
>Walk up to him and sit next to him
>"'sup" with a grin
>Dismiss any excuse with a "It can wait, this'll be quick.", or just ignore the excuse
>"Has anyone ever told you how cute you look?"
>"You're free this Saturday, right?"
>"Great! You. Me. A movie and dinner."
>Give him your number on a premade slip of paper
>"See you there," and walk off before he has time to respond
It isn't hard...

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>>8227367
this is real life not a movie

>>8227496
>wahh real life is hard
>I can only do things like normal people, and deviating from that in any way is unthinkable
Fucking millenials. Just suck it up, talk to him, and don't let him cut you off.

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>>8227631
I plan on doing just that. I'm just not gonna act like a Reddit fedora tipper who learned social skills from cheesy 90s romance movies

>>8227213
Only if you're the cause of it.

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>>8228513
really? I thought It would be a lot harder than that

>>8227660
If someone courted me like romcom Paul Rudd, I'd melt like wax.

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>>8228590
to each his own

>>8227367
>a movie for a first date
You must be a dateless anime virgin.

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>>8204493
todays the day. ill let you guys know how everything goes

>>8223872
noone I gave my number to even contacted me.
So yes, get his

>>8204493
So, OP, he let you suck his dick yet?

>>8204516
women can call men boys affectionately too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oql4bV2h2B4

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>>8237662
we've got some shit to go through. i cant post ot all rn but i will later

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>>8238383
I talked to a teacher who's been trying to help him and she told me some heavy shit so I didn't talk to him. he reminds me of myself freshman year so bad it's sorta scary. I'm putting my feelings to the side and im gonna reach out to him. I'm gonna be the friend I needed back then. Tuesday will be the day

>>8239466
You sounds like a wonderful person OP. What is he going through though?

>>8213729
Nobody cares who I was until I got in the eva

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>>8241414
lots of shit. his grandfather passed away and they were really close, he feels he has no friends, his family doesn't know how to help him, etc. it'll be hard. ill get frustrated. but I don't think I could never forgive myself if I don't try to help and he does something he'll regret. he's seeing a professional and he seems like he's interacting with people more so I may be a little late with helping.

>>8241475
it's not like its a bad thing if he's getting better don't be one of those guys with a saviour complex

>>8241506
but I don't want to go in expecting a problem child and then everything is alright

>>8241519
how bout just go in expecting to treat him like a fucking human rather than a project

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>>8241580
you're right... how could I have been so blind? I wanted a friend out of him but I was afraid that he'd leave me for new friends once he gets the skills to make them. I've always been fascinated by psychology and I've accepted that im just as flawed and broken as everyone else but discovering the fact that I dehumanized this kod that might need help for my own reasons to feels better about myself nauseates me

>>8241662
Just be friends with him, and hint that you're interested. If he's just going through a rough time, the depression will ease.
Just make sure to pry him out of the depression to go do fun things. It helps.

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>>8243055
how does one hint at that without it being totally obvious

>>8241457
shinji get in the Eva

>>8246496
idk dude ask him if he'd like to go do something or go to a restaurant/coffee shop

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>>8204516
>>8204737
I love white boi's

>>8230050
W-well...
What would you do on a first date?

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>>8248852
should I do that immediately or wait a bit

>>8248862
who doesn't?

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>>8226888
>Once you're friendly, give him something small like a badge and see if he wears it.

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>>8232182
ok no bluffs this time tomorrow I'll talk to him for sure

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>>8254053
fucking hell I have the worst luck. he wasn't there today