Boymode General

>>8171046
I'll be boymode forever. I wish I could go girlmode but I don't pass so there is no reason to try. Maybe if I hit the lottery I can afford enough surgery to pass.

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>>8171046
>tfw quitting Hrt

GET ON MY LEVEL

Currently waiting to fail femboy mode to start girlmode. Though I'm coming out as trans this weekend so I don't know what I'll do tbqh

>>8171110
Good luck, I hope you fail miserably at femboymode!

>>8171059
I feel the same, though surgery can't fix my wide shoulders.

Do you guys dress up in private still? That's the only time I ever put on a dress and make up, when nobody can see how much I don't pass

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>>8171046
what exactly is boymode

>>8171303
Presenting yourself as male in public.

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>>8171046
I'm not even sure if I'm actually trans. Am I still allowed here?

I like this general
t. boymode pro

What's the appeal of making discord for everything?

>>8173089
Sure, you're free to stay even if you decide to move on later.

>>8173119
I much prefer chatting in a discord server than on the board, but that's just my personal preference. You don't have to join it if you don't care for it.

>>8171297
I used to, a little bit, to see how things were progressing. But I've since given up on that aside from a comfy pair of sweatpants, and a bra which I need. Debating whether I should go back to shaggy boy hair now.

>>8171046
I'm in boymode, very lightly dancing on the threshold of femboy mode. But I still *mostly* dress, speak and present myself as a male in public because I'll never really pass as an attractive female. I've been told I could pass as an ugly girl though.

>>8174146
Do you want to pass as an ugly girl? I've been told the same but I don't believe it because it was just once.

>>8175640
I'm at the point now where I get so depressed and discouraged that I don't know what I want. And evenif I did I'd still fuck it up.

>>8176518
I can relate, it's definitely a bitch of a struggle. You should try to get friends who can relate or understand how you feel, I feel more comfortable being feminine around good friends like that.

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>People talking about quiting boymode
NOT POSSIBLE BABY

>>8177908
Why not? Didn't you start at 16?

>>8177915
Yeah I did I'm also hideously ugly and 6'6''

>>8177908
nice kicks

>>8177927

Do you know what your height was at 16? How old are you now?

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>>8177942
Would have probably just been 6'5''
I'm 20.

>>8177927
you sound hot tbqh
>my fetish is tall guys with low self esteem

>>8177927
If you're actually 6'6" then no combination of clothes will make people not notice you unless it's a ghillie.

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>>8177954
I don't just think lowly of myself everyone else does too.
>>8177957
They can't see you if you're buried in the ground

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>tfw 22 months in and im still in boy mode

>11 months in
>just got madam'd for the first time by a cashier
Sure, after getting closer look she apologized and sir'd me, but it's still something, right? Right?

>>8177993
>lady behind counter, i'll be right w you miss
>walk up to counter
>what can i get you sir?
it's all good now that i don't see myself as trans

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>tfw hrt just turns you into a better looking cis male due to better skin and thicker hair

>>8178017
>now that i don't see myself as trans
how did you stop?

>>8177988
Get on my level
50+ months boymode
Tho everyone genders me as a girl, so it's all good anyway

>>8179371
That's interesting. Do you have long hair? When did you start failing boymode?

>>8177954
Are you a grill?

>have a girlfriend who supports my transition and thinks I'll pass
>still in boymode because I know I'll never pass
I don't even own girl's clothes

>>8179429
>thinking you know better than your gf

you'll be single soon

>>8179468
We've lived together for years.

She loves me deeply, of course she's biased with how she sees me. And I'm biased in the opposite direction because I hate myself. Who knows if I'll really ever pass

>hrt over a year but still boymode at home and school because of unsupportive volatile parents and super christian school
>on top of that school makes u cut hair

r8 boymode, do I come off as a fag?

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>tfw male fail never comes

>>8179491
How did she handle you coming out? Has she dressed you in her clothes much?

>>8179611
I hate myself too much.
She actually masturbates to the thought of me as a woman and she loves pegging me but I'm just not brave enough to ever dare wear female clothing because I would look too ugly. *sigh*

>>8179611
We meet online, I told her about my trans feelings before we met in person

>>8179666
Why are you pretending to be me

>>8179611
>Has she dressed you in her clothes much?
And no, she's 5'5 and I'm 6'1

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>people call you "hon" almost daily

>>8179821
>We meet online, I told her about my trans feelings before we met in person
Is she bi? Les? Does she feel like she's in a straight or a lesbian relationship and does she treat you like a boyfriend or a girlfriend? How did you respond to hearing your trans feelings online?

>>8171046
Late transitioning PermaBoymode here.
As much as Id like to not be in girl mode, i just feel like Ill never look right in girl clothes or make up, Even though Im only 1 year and 5 months in.
Which really sucks because I love dresses.
I also stay in boymode because Im scared of getting murdered or loosing my job.

>>8180999
She's bi but only dated girls. She doesn't think of us as straight or les or anything, just as us I guess. She treats me 100% like a girl even though I'm in boymode

>How did you respond to hearing your trans feelings online?
She knew I was trans from the getgo because we met in a chatgroup and I told everyone that I was trans. I didn't reveal it to her personally, she always knew me this way.

>>8181236
Must be nice. Congrats, Anon. I hope things work out and you get comfortable enough to be in girl mode when you are ready.

>>8181029
Where do you live if you're scared of getting murdered?

>>8182102
I used to live in a small town in NC. Now Iive at old faithful in yellowstone national park.
The whole fear of murder thing is a hold over from living in NC and reading the news on a daily basis.
As a black transwoman, im surprised I didnt get shot in the face as soon as I crossed the wyoming state line.

>>8179335
And a teenager -_-

>tfw your boyfriend is excited about inheriting your boymode wardrobe
>tfw your not going to girlmode so he'll never get it

>>8177950

Yeah, you're probably right. I just took a look at the CDC's growth chart and you only grow about an inch between 16 and 20. Have to start at 13 to get cis female height for your genes.

>>8177908
This picture is exactly how I dress.

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>21 y/o
>3 years on hrt
>Struggling to stay in boymode
>Stopped showing up at university because people use female pronouns so often and I feel super awkward when I have to correct them
>Don't want to transition unless I can pass 110% as cis
>Probably never going to happen because of BDD

AMA

>>8182291
You have to make sure the jeans are at least a few sizes too big for you to hide your hips as well
>>8182257
>cis female height
>my genes
literally every woman in my family is barely over 5' they are all miniscule

>>8182318
>hide your hips
lol what hips?

>tfw if you were cis you could just wear pretty clothes as much as you want

>>8182314
What makes you feel like you don't pass well enough?

Are they just using female pronouns to support you or do they think you're a real girl?

>>8182321
this
fuck off triptard, if you have to hide hips you have no reason staying in boymode

>>8182332
Calm down, hips aren't everything when it comes to passing.

>>8182321
My body looks wierd as shit though
>>8182332
My face and height plus generally not passing at all.

>>8182338
Get a load of this hip-haver.

>>8182338
>>8182340
fuck off hips-havers

>>8182348
>>8182341

I literally have no hips, just saying you can have hips but wide shoulders and a manly face or any other masculine trait and not pass because of it.

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>>8182348
I'd rather be shorter than have hips.
It's hardly a worthwhile exchange to be my height just for a slightly more female proportioned body

>>8182338
This. I'm

>5'8"
>36" hips (13-14" breadth)
>16" shoulders (end to end, bideltoid)
>30" ribcage

And I'm still perma boymode. Fuck this meme.

>>8182318

>You have to make sure the jeans are at least a few sizes too big for you to hide your hips as well

Show these hips.

>literally every woman in my family is barely over 5' they are all miniscule

So you were well over 5'0" by 13? Maybe you're Y haplotype I-M170? It only increases height in males because the gene is on the Y chromosome.

>>8182318
>>8182393

Actually, I was near 5'4" around the time I was 13 and I'm 5'10" now. You must have been even taller.

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>>8182393
I would have been 5'10-11'' at 13 when I started highschool

Really old picture I've lost my thighs since then I'm working on losing some more fat and then gaining it back later

>>8182354
>>8182380

kill yourself
you think we aren't also over 6' but without hips?

>>8182410
"""boymode"""
fuck off.

>>8182418
I've literally never been gendered female in my life.
>>8182411
I've not seen anyone else that is 6'6''

>>8182410

Your hips don't look like much, but they don't look male either in that pic. If you were shorter, you probably would pass quite well as an average girl.

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>>8182432
Well looking like a completely low-test male gets me insulted so I have my straight cut jeans
I want FFS for my jaw as well it's a bit of a mess

>>8182411
Why? It doesn't make the BDD any less. I'm 5'8" but feel like I'm a hulk anyway. For reference, I transitioned at 16 and now I'm 18 and still boy mode. It fucking sucks to be boymoding for 2 years.

>>8182348
guys are inverted triangles, unless you're fat

>>8182410

Can't you take another pic where you pull the shirt back? Your waist isn't distinguishable with the excess fabric. The fact you lost weight and will look a little different doesn't matter. The skeleton is what I want to get a better idea of anyway.

>>8182454
>It fucking sucks to be boymoding for 2 years.

Technically you've been doing it for 18 years.

Ahahahaha. It's been 22 for me.

>>8182472
>Technically you've been doing it for 18 years
;_;

I just want to be a girl :'(

>>8182424
>I've literally never been gendered female in my life
Wow, that's crazy. Maybe it's just the pic, but you look really fem.

>>8182452
>don't sound like a fag, hit w em male voice
i can go full femboi mode in all grill clothing, and everyone is cool

>>8182678
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1eaTzObEHVq

>>8182454
Kys, you have bdd. You have no idea what it's truly like to be a hulking hon.

>>8174146
same here. i am very young looking real Twink on the one side, but on the other side i have some masculine flaws that make it impossible to be a girl. i unisex as much as i can, most important when i add girlish things into my lifestyle.

>>8171061
>Thinking a lot about stopping hrt recently
>I know I'll feel like utter shit if I do but I'm never going to go out of boy mode so I'm starting to not see the point

>>8177908
Hey I'm from glasgow to! Mount florida!

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>>8171046
>mfw I found my new home.

A-at least we still have our male privilege r-right?

>>8185836
>male privilege
nice meme

>>8185836
You lost that after your first pill

>>8179335
>>8182217
Sames. I just look like a 13 year old boy now but it beats looking like a gross man.

>>8182410
You are very tall but your body still looks proportional. You pass better than 98% of all mtfs on this board.

Not even kidding.

>>8186102
Maybe it's just from the picture. She did say that she never got gendered female in her life. In another thread, she said this didn't happen even in girl mose, so I feel like there's some serious male tells that aren't as visible in images.

>>8186078
Male privilege is BS.
It's not like when you are born you are handed a Special Platinum XY Card that gets you everywhere, secures you your dream job and makes you a billionaire.
Or is it?

>tfw almost 30 and dysphoria is just getting worse and worse
There's no point in even trying though, I'm like the picture of a "perfect man", so there's no way I'll ever pass.

>>8186210
>Male privilege is BS.
How can you even say that?

>>8186210
If you're white and not poor, being male does give you a huge leg up. It's a huge reason why I can't transition, I'd lose my job for sure and I don't want to be treated like shit all the time for being a tranny. Even if I passed, people wouldn't treat me as well as they do now. I pay pretty close attention to how my female coworkers are treated and it's not well. Granted, it may just be my area specifically.

>>8186301
and those are cis fems
imagine shit you'll get for being a tranny

>>8186281
Being male is a disadvantage. Being a woman in the west gives you legal, social and romantic advantages.

>>8186301
>I pay pretty close attention to how my female coworkers are treated and it's not well.
Let's hear it.

>>8171046
>Be me, 30 yo, 6 years on hrt
>HRT made me look super young and pretty as male and androginous, but I'll never be able to present as woman since in tall as a basketball player
>I can't walk around without people looking. Girls will always fix their hair when they look at me
>Received a proposition to work as a male model some weeks ago
>tfw when I explained I have boobs
>Still got the job by hiding bewbs with a sports bra

>>8186327
What legal and social advantages?

>>8186301
>I pay pretty close attention to how my female coworkers are treated and it's not well
How? I am HONestly curious tbqh

>>8186377
nice. how did the coming out conversation go?

>>8186377
How tall?

>>8182331
I think he's afab

>>8186560
That would make no sense

>>8186409
I assume they're talking
Legal:
>courts rule in favour of women in dv, divorce and child custody cases, more lenient sentencing
Social:
Not really sure what they're talking about here, but they seem to have an easier time talking together, not sure how much of an advantage that is.

I don't really get what so advantageous about being female, I honestly wish I could just be man and be comfortable because despite how awful I felt inside life was a total breeze so long as you applied yourself a little. If you look respectable you get respect; looking respectable is the bare minimum to be treated human if you're female (until your back is turned).

>but the female safety net
Not the case at all, not everyone has the same economic background so the same pitfalls apply. It's crazy that some people think being able to sell sex to survive is a privilege...

>>8186642
>It's crazy that some people think being able to sell sex to survive is a privilege...
How do they end up thinking such crazy things?

>>8186656
I don't really know, but when you read it between points of MRA rhetoric it gets a bit suss

>>8186663
It's false flagging by MRA's?!

>>8186674
no but so many AGP seem to have MRAesque thoughts on woman and gender

>>8186687
Why? Because they aren't transitioning? Does it stop for the ones who do?

>>8186693
I'm not sure, some sound like they are, others not. Those who are quite self-loathing though.

Are you the Inquisitive Anon? I keep feeling like we talk a lot, lol.

>>8187021
I wonder how those three things affected each other, the self-loathing, the MRAness and the AGP/transitioning...

Probably! I'll try and somehow find the thread we talked in. I guess it's a small board after all.

>>8186447
Eh. Whenever people ask me about my tits, I tell them a incredibly dumb story of how I got sick some years ago and decided to self med, and unfortunately got boobs as a side effect (actually, I started spiro when I had kidney stones, lol). I must be quite convincing, cuz everyone believes that.

Family bothered me some years ago "WTF BOOBS ARE U ON MONES". I stopped with HRT for a month or two, did a blood test and then was like "See, the test is ok, I'm not on mones, I probably grew boobs due to illness or something". They told me I should remove the boobs and I was like "nah, don't want scars and the girls actually like them :^')"

>>8186533
Uh, 6 ft tall

>>8187107
I thought Inquisitive Anon was the one who liked to ask a series of somewhat uncomfortable questions?

>>8187220
>and the girls actually like them :^')
is that true? story!

>>8187220
> I tell them a incredibly dumb story of how I got sick some years ago and decided to self med, and unfortunately got boobs as a side effect
Wow, that is so sad. I wonder what I am going to tell people when my boobs are too large to hide. Probably that I had a testicular cancer, "thyroid condition" or something.

>>8187300
Well, maybe I just had luck, but they did. They were pretty curious, and it's hilarious how most of them try to act like they have 0 interest, even when it's was visible how they were wracking their brains trying to ask me about how it's like to be a cute guy with boobs, if I'm gay, trans or whatever, and how much they want the D, since lol, that would be SOOO GAY. Most of the time I just act like a shy nerdy guy, and they love it. I think that some my friends and people I met become curious about what I really am, and since I'm pretty enough, they feel a mix of curiosity and horny.

There was this one girl in a group of friends that whenever had the chance, patted my boobs like "cuz omg, I can't believe they are real, they are so soft, lololol so gay". One day I just acted like I was annoyed and told her that if she did this again I would fondle her boobs too, cuz, you know, "I may be a male, but it's not ok how only you are touching tits here, girl". We had sex some hours later, she liked it, and we dated for some months.

Tbh, I'm just a B cup, and being so tall makes my boobs look a bit weird on my chest. But, it seems like the cute androgynous look is attractive enough to girls, I guess. I'm lucky enough that my male clothes don't make them too obvious.

Still I fucking miss being able to use white shirts, they make them stand out way too much for my like :(

>>8187475
Depends on how tall you are and your body type. They don't really look big on me because of how tall I am and the way I dress, but would probably stand out in a smaller trans girl. 80% of the time, I don't really care about using a sports bra to hide them, and only almost no one notice them when I'm walking around in the streets. Most of the looks are due to being handsome :^)

Still, they are 100% fucking obvious when I'm just using comfy clothes in my house, it's the reason family bothered me after visiting lol. I was already prepared that someday, family would pester me about a blood test. I was fucking nervous when I had it done, because I thought that just 2 months off hrt wouldn't be enough to "fix" what years of hrt had done to me, but hey, everything worked out in the end.

It probably sounds dumb as hell, but I'm chill and don't fuss too much about it, and as result people don't bother me.

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>>8187107
I think that the self-loathing would be alleviated somewhat if they could find a way not to hold MRA typed views and they would find it easier to transition. If they can't I think they'd probably try to convince themselves that being AGP does not make them trans.

If it is you it's been a few times, is this you in pic related?

>>8187668
5'10 so pretty tall, I guess. And mine are similar to yours and unless I am bent over they look flat tbqh. I am also 2 years into HRT.

>>8187707
Uhh, good luck making them bigger than B, it's pretty hard. I had them flat with nary 0 growth for one entire year, until I tried to massage them (gently) everyday, then WHOA, they got to B in some months. This shit is magic.

I could probably make them bigger with more massage, but I'm tired of it and also not sure If I want to reach C cup.

What's the difference between this and femgen?

>>8187739
femgen is in denial about being trans

>>8187745

Some are nb

>>8187739
femgen isn't specifically about mtfs trying to repress

does a cuteish chaser transbian with a man voice qualify
i go boy mode to doctor/etc

>>8187797
Yeah if you're not full time in public you're welcome too, even if it's temporary.

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>>8185770
You're like 5 minutes from where I live what to heck.

>>8187739
femgen is guys trying to be qt forever via pills

this is just perma boy mode mtf

>>8186377

>Girls will always fix their hair when they look at me

Cis bitches are so thirsty.

>>8187765
I think it's more complicated. My theory with femgen is that younger/more androgynous the poster the less likely they are to be repressing or have great amount of dysphoria because they're not getting T-rex't but give it long enough they'll start wanting serms, then a little later they're wanting estrogen, then some time after that they start tripping in MTFG and within a short time they're shit posting in femgen telling them they're trans becauce dysphoria

>>8187931
*telling femgen they're trans

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I'm the handsome husband

>>8188122
Nice butt gayboi

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>>8188134
I'm not a gayboi. I'm a handsome husband.

>>8188145
You look like a fatso

I see way too many femgen posters in that discord. Time to purge femgen again.

>tfw dad says I have the body of a girl
>says I need to work on the face
Do I become a femboy?

>>8188695

You don't. Stick to this containment thread and stay out of ours.

>>8188697
And why are you both here and there too?

>>8188705

Know your enemy.

>>8188718
Go back to your repression gen-- I mean femgen

the repression never ends

>>8188697
>>8188705
>>8188718
>>8188728
fucking faggots

>>8188689
No, looks like baggy boimode clothes. It's like you've never hidden your body or anything.

Then again it's hard to tell without face

>>8190603
Definitely looks at least chubby. A thin person with baggy clothes doesn't look like that.

>>8190609
Maybe like a tiny gut at most. Most certainly within normal bmi. Just not stick thin like a tween girl (mtfg seems to idolize that look though). Maybe losing the tiny gut would help though?

In those pics you can see them barely hiding their breasts and the clothes are so baggy it's hard to see anything. Even the jeans are straight cut. She'd look better, and we'd get a better look, with skinny jeans and a tighter shirt. Also, face.

>>8179666
>She actually masturbates to the thought of me as a woman
Can you expand on this? Is it just that she sees you as a woman and imagines you that way or also that she's specifically turned on by the idea of you being a woman?

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>>8179666
You have no idea how insanely jealous of you I am. Seriously, Im actually crying right now.
Its frustrating to see someone with something you will never have.

>>8186377
>6 years on hormones and still can't pass
FUCK is 6' really THAT much of a killer

>>8192684
Unfortunately, it's a huge factor. Tall women exist, but their shoulders and hips will be much more in line with female norms. Your face might also prevent you from passing.

How old, anon?

>>8192698
too fucking old

the problem is i can't stand seeing my face so i need to get ffs but then i can't just pass that off

>>8192714
>>8192684
>too fucking old
did you start past your early 20s or late teens? If you are, then... yeah, it's not just your height keeping you from passing. sorry :(

>>8192714
>the problem is i can't stand seeing my face so i need to get ffs but then i can't just pass that off

>tfw thinking the same thing

I realized passing is probably impossible for me, so I was thinking about just going boymode for life but getting FFS anyway because I hate my face. I think there's a reasonable chance my face still wouldn't pass after, but it would make the oddness of my disgusting body more noticeable whether the FFS gives me a passing female face or an androgynous face.

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WHY AM I A DISGUSTING FUCKING HULK IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>8192798
What's your story, anon?

>>8192890
>Just fuck my shit up desu

I see your testicles already did that for you.

>tfw can't go back and cut them out, and getting them out now won't change a damn thing

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>>8192904

>>8192896
what is there to know?
>want to be a girl since some single-digit age
>ashamed about it so make sure i never let anyone on about it
>end up shutting off and getting to like 16 without realizing it
>start masturbating
>develop AGP but don't know what it is
>try to stop it over time but keep coming back
>be... 18 or so idk, realize that my "heterosexuality" is weird in that i have "attraction" to girls but it's not quite the same as normal male attraction i think
>sink further into AGP also without realizing it, start drinking heavily and fapping compulsively
>keep drinking and get more and more depressed
>be 23 and NEET, find /lgbt/, find out what trans and AGP is
>24 realize since i had shaggy boy hair and never looked at my forehead for years that i was losing hair, have a panic attack
>get on fin and start thinking of trialing hormones at some point
>later same year start drinking more heavily and decide fuck it i'm too broken to ever get a gf anyway so it doesn't matter and i'll just trial hormones
>stop maybe once or twice in the first few months saying no i can't fucking do this
>be 26 and on high dose
>drink much less but get more and more despondent as I realize I'm hopelessly unpassable
>absorb myself into weed and vidya to try to forget
>shitpost wantonly on 4chan and get angry at people born later than me

>>8193198
>realize that my "heterosexuality" is weird in that i have "attraction" to girls but it's not quite the same as normal male attraction i think
how did you tell your attraction was different?

>>8193280
even though I felt attraction toward girls it wasn't really in a "ohhhh i want to fuck her so hard" sense. i guess i just found them really aesthetically pleasing and still crushed on them

>>8193306
can you still have relationships with that kind of attraction?

>>8193336
i wouldn't know. i think so though, assuming things like dysphoria were not taken into the equation

>>8193341
what would the relationship be based on if you don't desire them sexually?

>>8193367
i don't see how that's a problem at all

>>8193367
You've never liked someone because of their personality, because of shared hobbies, because they're great cuddle partners?

is this for trannies in boymode or what

>>8193503
can you read or what

>>8193524
yeah but you retards are bickering at e/a telling this and that fucker to go back to here or back to x containment thread

make up your fucking minds

>>8193538
That's just the femgen people coming here to be annoying, this is for trannies in boymode.

Temporary or permanent you're welcome to talk about how you're dealing with or just to hang out.

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>>8193548
ok ty.

cut hair recently to fit in more, feeling like a twink lately

>>8193306
Same anon

>>8193560
Do you like it? I'm cutting my hair short soon, I also cut it slightly shorter than I want so I don't have to go outside to cut it very often.

>>8193629
i like it when it behaves right but my hairline kinda sucks
sometimes it looks like a pixie cut and thats ideal for me

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>Order clothes
>Try on clothes
>Return clothes
>Repeat

>>8193669
so much fucking this, they make me dysphoric because I don't pass

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>>8194077
>Buy tall range from specialist store
>Shoulders too narrow
>Sleeves to short
>Bust too large
>Doesn't fit right because proportions
>Looks like regular male clothes when you put it on

Daily reminder thatif you have longer than 5 inch hair you are not in a boymode and should fuck off from this thread.

>>8194104
That's not true, don't listen to this guy. You can be feminine in boymode still.

>>8194104
psshh if you can't boymode with nipple length hair then why are you even in boymode? get out passer

>>8194103
Learn to sew

>>8192890

So she liked you because you're feminine?

>>8193198

>24 realize since i had shaggy boy hair and never looked at my forehead for years that i was losing hair, have a panic attack

My hair was never really long until I finally stood up for myself and stopped getting men's haircuts, but it was long enough (2" max) that I couldn't get a good look at my hairline without moving my hair out of the way. Yet I still noticed hairs were falling out at 19 because they kept falling in my food. Did you not have moments like that where you just thought, "Where are all of these hairs coming from?"

>>8194104
>>8195510

I don't understand your logic.

>>8195727
no i didn't notice at all. i was very oblivious. i thought about it one time that i saw a healthy pile in the shower drain but chalked it up to the hair being longer than it used to be.
when i say i checked out, i legitimately didn't even realize i went through puberty because i didn't look at myself naked from like 11-14. i looked at myself at 14 and was shocked at how much i changed

>>8196079

I kind of get what you mean by just having noticed you changed one day. I never liked my face even pre-puberty, probably because of dysphoria, and when my facial hair came in on my chin probably a little before turning 15, I didn't really mind it. By 11th grade, my beard was nearly complete, and it had occurred to me that I hadn't seen my bare face in years. I shaved it and I was disgusted by what I saw. I thought for sure I was ugly as hell and I decided I would keep my face from then on. A classmate even told me not to shave again. And then there are things like my wide cheekbones, wide chin, and masculine brow bone that I wasn't aware of at all before starting HRT. I think if had known about these kinds of changes from puberty, I might have been one of the more desperate trannies looking for hormones as 14 year olds.

>>8197454
That moment when you notice your voice has dropped a lot because a friend records you with his phone.