Learn to love yourself edition.
•Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
•Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
•Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
•Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
•Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
•Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
•Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
•Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
•Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
•IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
Old >>8153504
i hate myself
>>8155599
>i hate myself
This :/
A proper title! Yay!
>>8155596
How does one love themselves when they are an unlikable hon?
>tfw could probably pass as a 3/10 woman with some makeup as of now if I can get my voice to a decent spot
Ironic thread
>>8155610
check ur privelage
>>8155609
you don't you just enjoy the shitposting
Remember to try your best
Even if you can't have a happy life
You can have a successful one
>>8155621
Define successful.
>>8155616
Pretty!
>>8155621
>You can be successful without the entire reward mechanism that drives people to actually do things
>>8155621
Yeah we gotta set up our successors for success
Leave this place in better condition
>>8155610
>if I can get my voice to a decent spot
iktf...
constant sore throat makes voice training impossible.
just stop making these threads. they're so dead.
>>8155621
Pretty much, gota beat life out of spite.
>>8155642
They are not! :(
>>8155621
That is through luck really
Hard work rarely pays off
>>8155636
>your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning for those younger than you who are repressing :_:
>>8155654
You are not your circumstances though. :( You are you!
>>8155652
>If I can't be happy, I might as well make my life about making others happy.
That logic is just stupid
>>8155661
idk i never asked to be born yet here i am, forced into this life i never wanted
im aware i will never not once experience happiness in my life so at the least to give my own life some kind of value i can improve the lives of others
its the least i can do
>>8155652
I believe that what so saddens the reformer is not his sympathy with his fellows in distress, but, though he be the holiest son of God, is his private ail. Let this be righted, let the spring come to him, the morning rise over his couch, and he will forsake his generous companions without apology
>>8155669
I think a lot of us feel that way because we're trans
>>8155661
I get happy when I know I've helped others be happy.
>>8155611
I didn't mean to make anyone feel obligated
I just don't know how to talk positively about myself at all
if this is someone from the discord server please can you ask Frey to check her PMs if she hasn't already
>>8155685
Same :(
>>8155657
>tfw it was just genetics and bad luck, not even your own actions, that led to your position so not even a cautionary tale
>litrally just a living monument to failure
>>8155685
If I can't be happy, I can't make others happy
>>8155693
when did you start? also you're doing pretty good presentationwise imho
>>8155699
18 months ago
it's not just the tranny shit though
literally everything I want to do with my life has been fucked by disability or poor circumstances
feelin loads better btw, just needed to reapply the cbt skills i learned recovering from depression to my 2 months-point intensified dysphoria and we're goodtego, i have a system for managing it
look at me now losers, gettin all my lil errands done
wow i have thirty minutes to spare and no interesting trips to bully
>>8155707
how old are you tho? what's your disability?
honestly being british was probably your worst mistake out of everything there
feels good to have bigger boobs than kayla even though shes only an a cup
>>8155711
Bullying is wrong and bad
>>8155714
My 10 year old sister has bigger boobs than her.
>>8155709
Congratz :)
my tits are soo hairy help
>>8155712
Anglo Superiority!
>>8155412
anon this is very cute
>>8155719
Shave! :D
>>8155711
I'm not interesting but bully me
>>8155712
22
dyspraxia and central hypotonia, caused by brain damage at birth
>>8155596
This picture looks weird
>>8155720
look i'm as racist as the next chick but actually living in the united kingdom is a very dangerous and bad meme - never fall for it
>>8155731
so you're clumsy and floppy? but this sounds good for passing
>>8155720
Aren't you Scottish?
>>8155734
It's alrightish tbqhfam there is a bunch of welfare for me and lots of munchy boxes
>>8155743
yeah
My brother told me today that he's getting picked on at school because his classmates found out about his tranny sister
I think I'm detransing
>>8155745
what's your disability huh? how are all of you claiming welfare?
>drank red bull
>still tired and sleepy
>>8155745
>Anglo
>Scottish
Pick one
>>8155727
Why would i bully a child?
>>8155749
don't, it'll actually make him cooler after the year 10 powershift
>>8155749
No don't. How did they even find out? Move schools or something?
how 2 enjoy ur job/life at the moment
>>8155768
do big skateboards
eat big
my kidneys hurt, maybe i should stop pumping them with dangerous, unprescribed chemicals
>>8155773
you know if you cut off your legs you could get shorter prosthetic legs
>>8155779
then i couldn't roll around on a skateboard you dumbbassjavascript:quote('8155768');
>>8155755
Because I deserve it
>>8155775
Lower your dosages a bit.
>tfw ur fat but u want a pizza
y/n do it?
>>8155787
That's really sad to hear. They'll get bored eventually..
>>8155793
Do it!
>>8155784
oh wow i thought you were just autistic but hey, if i were to guess, voice alteration is probably an adjustment that's going to get a lot more possible with advancing tech - like that's the one i see as most likely to happen in the near future
>>8155793
Don't do it
https://discord.gg/bYbumBD
anyone want to join my discord?
I'm really lonely tonight and I feel bad after getting banned from my favourite discord server
>>8155793
count your calories senpai.
i feel really dysphoric rn
i had a dream where i was in a discord with a trangirl i'm no longer friends with and went back to like a five year old photobucket or something
and got a pic of me with huge breasts
it was weird, like it was my face but then we've got these things
and i was lying in bed feeling suicidal in my dream while i could overhear my stepdad telling my mom(?) that i can't be allowed to keep staying up this late
what do when even your dream self has suicidal depression
>>8155801
I want to be uploaded into the net
I hate my stupid fucking body and everything about it
>>8155787
after year 10, high schools have a power shift. smarter leftwing kids - the ones who are going to be cool in university - start to become the social elite
>>8155815
He is year 12 though. He graduates this year.
Which is nice because it means he only has 2 months left to deal with being bullied. I just feel really guilty
>>8155811
I am not sure :( Dreams can sometimes be a reflection of how we are feeling with a bit of madness mixed in
>>8155749
Don't let the bullies win. It's to late, they will never stop calling him that.
I marched for science today :>
>>8155821
i was going to qualify 'if the school is decent' but oh well
it's not like it will do that straight cis boy too much damage to be alienated from the worst of his peers
i'm joking but yknow friends will prob come easily enough to him, he'll look after himself
>>8155836
Congratz on marching for science. Did you have fun?
Why is everything so sad
>>8155751
caffeine tolerance is a thing.
>>8155841
spend a year in our shoes...
>>8155837
It's a catholic school. All boys. So that's probably why they are being so mean about it
>>8155840
Yea it was p cool
wish i brought my dslr but it was raining all morning, only to unexpectedly clear up halfway through so all i had was my cellphone :(
AtdotAt in my thread AGAIN?
>>8155847
Did you at least take a lot of pictures during your march on your cell? :D
i fucking hate LGBT groups
i don't want to be lumped in with flamboyant gay men and transtrenders
i hate that trans acceptance has led to people being openly trans and treating transition as if it's a fucking identity
trans acceptance was a mistake desu
the people who actually have dysphoria get fucked over by trans acceptance almost as much as they did by prejudice
>>8155848
Bring in the ewoks!
>>8155870
Ewoks fought AT-STs though! AT-ATs are the larger walkers from Hoth
wish i could get a blood test
like what if i've needed more estrogen for my hips to grow and stuff, and what if now it's too late
>>8155864
>the people who actually have dysphoria get fucked over by trans acceptance almost as much as they did by prejudice
lol what
i mean i met some nice people but it's like
i feel like they understand me just as badly as everyone else does
it's nice enough to talk to them but wtf is the point when they think you're something you're not
>>8155864
Where do you live where being openly trans isnt instant social suicide lol.
Ill take trans trenders as a small price to pay for trans acceptance if it means i wont be fired from every job or get beaten up in the street.
is people openly laughing at you when ur in boy mode a good or bad sign
>>8155890
Bad.
>>8155890
Do you have your zipper down or something?
>>8155885
i would've probably killed myself already if i didn't have the chance of meeting at least a couple accepting people in london. i don't care about "transtrenders" if it means i at least have the chance to exist in a state that isn't permanent fucking shame.
>>8155890
It's pretty bad, yeah.,
>>8155885
No thanks to being beaten up :S
>>8155881
>people with actual dysphoria get marginalized by kids with no dysphoria and people who treat being transgender as an identity to be proud of
>>8155885
>being openly trans
that's one of the things i don't like about trans acceptance
i don't want to be openly trans
if i can't pass once i'm done with transition, i'm not going to try
i just went to an LGBT group in boymode and told everyone to call me he
>tfw consumed by lewd thoughts
>>8155890
>being laughed at in public
Greatest fear
>>8155885
>Where do you live where being openly trans isnt instant social suicide lol.
I'd like to know too, I'll move there right now
>>8155897
Yeah exactly, although i do exist in a state of permanent shame still.
Papa Johns or Dominos?
>>8155915
papa johns
>>8155897
>the chance to exist in a state that isn't permanent fucking shame.
trans acceptance just means i have the opportunity to be accepted as something that isn't a biological woman
i'll pass
>>8155915
Papa Johns for breadsticks, but Dominos for pizza and pasta
>>8155915
So you're getting pizza after all?
Then go and get something local.
>>8155915
definitely dominos
trust me I know pizza
>>8155915
Papa Johns
>>8155915
home made...
>>8155926
Papa Johns vs Pizza Hut?
>>8155915
Papa John's I guess, Domino's is shit.
>>8155922
honestly, i can't get people who will present female pre-hrt, with no chance of passing
i'm not here to break down gender barriers
i mean, yeah, i identify with the 'emancipated woman', but i'll save that for when i can actually play the part correctly
>>8155915
Little Caesar's
:^)
>>8155931
Papa johns But I am biased
>>8155904
>i don't want to be openly trans
that's your fucking business
some people are openly trans because it's either impossible for them to pass or because sometimes its good not completely shutting an important part of who you are from your fucking friends and loved ones because being trans is fucking difficult and yeah, sometimes humans like feeling they have the support of others.
>i just went to an LGBT group in boymode and told everyone to call me he
why even go to the group to begin with then
>>8155921
okay so you literally have such a self-destructive attitude towards life you would rather get murdered or fired from every job instead
also lmao, this entire thing boils down to: me, me, me, me, I, me, I, myself, I. You're not the only tranny in the god damn world you know. Trans acceptance makes life better for the vast majority of us, that you don't personally like it doesn't change that, consider thinking about the world in terms besides your own person.
>>8155844
Oh come on
It can't be that bad
98.967% of /mtfg/ are on the left side of this image
any thoughts?
>>8155935
little ceaser's was okay for shitty pizza but now the one near me always has cheese that tastes inedible
>>8155945
It's a tranny thing being sad all the time.
On account on being a little girl trapped in a man bear pig body, you know.
>>8155950
Which side is the one that shits in a diaper on camera
>>8155939
Like a week or two ago? It was shit, the garlic bites were 10/10, though.
>>8155953
I'm a tranny too but I'm making peace with some things I can't change
>>8155686
Didn't you get banned
>>8155950
>not switching sides halfway because you realize it is a pointless endeavor
>>8155940
>because sometimes its good not completely shutting an important part of who you are
yeah but if you have dysphoria, being trans shouldn't be part of who you are
too many people treat trans as an identity
at best it's a healing process
>>8155950
There needs to be a third column, shitting yourself live on the internet for cash.
>>8155963
That's the best thing you can do for yourself.
>>8155970
You don't know how much I wish I could dress like that.
>>8155967
>yeah but if you have dysphoria, being trans shouldn't be part of who you are
but it fucking is, objectively, if you have dysphoria you are trans and the experience of dysphoria and the experience of how society treats people with dysphoria will affect who you are and very strongly define your personal identity. You might not "identity as trans" but you still fucking are. Even if I went on to pass perfectly and live the remainder of my life in full stealth nothing will erase the fact I grew up and was raised a boy and had to go through the psychological trauma of transition and gender dysphoria and so on and so on. You can't make yourself "not trans".
>>8155970
I'll never be cis looking for fit into a women's small so it's best not to fret over it and just live my life
>>8155970
honestly breasts like these are just gross
like i probably need medium sized breasts to balance out my frame but i'll be damned before i'm parading mega milkers around
>>8155975
So what's stopping you?
Is it the shoulders?
>>8155976
>You can't make yourself "not trans".
yeah, but you -can- refuse to openly identify with a medical condition
>>8155988
Shoulders, hips, foot size, height and man legs, I have all the bad shit.
>love yourself
why can't i stop being fat tho
i need to work out more and eat less
>>8155950
IDK. I think I'm a meme ;_;
>>8155996
>Shoulders, hips, foot size, height and man legs, I have all the bad shit.
I am sorry to hear that.
>>8155999
just stop eating lmao
opinions?
>>8155950
Tfw on the right
>>8155915
How is that even a question lol papa johns is so much better
>>8155915
Call a local pizzeria
>>8155996
>man legs
lol what do you mean ?
>>8155992
That's literally a personal choice.
You don't get to define how every tranny lives.
Sometimes people openly identity with this because human existence is defined by seeking others to huddle together with warmth in the cold miserable world we live in.
Sometimes you openly identify with this "medical condition" because being a tranny is an isolating, painful existence that slowly drives you insane if you have to rely on nobody but yourself for support.
Why do you think communities like this thread exist?
>>8155999
You need to pick up some horribly unhealthy addiction that lowers your appetite.
>>8156021
Amphetamines and nicotine are all that come to mind.
>>8156016
Please vote in my very interesting strawpoll
http://www.strawpoll.me/12804093
http://www.strawpoll.me/12804093
http://www.strawpoll.me/12804093
Vote now
>>8155926
I love the marketing campaign acknowledging there pizza use to suck
>>8156026
I don't call that a valid reason, you can work on that
>>8156032
How? Go into as much detail as you can please.
I used to work for both papa johns and dominos and dominos is barely qualified to call their products food. Papa johns is barely any better though, however, they at least occasionally try to pass health inspections.
>>8156030
>didn't even make the list
thank god
>>8155982
Mega milk xD
>>8156026
For some reason it works.
>>8156018
by 'identifying as trans' i meant to the world at large
it's one thing to have support groups with other like minded transwomen, but it's another thing to parade an identity you probably don't even have any claim to
>>8156030
>smartest trip Tanya isn't even on the list
>>8156037
Eat more, workout less
Can't go much in detail, I've got godly legs, you could checkout /thinspo/ on fa
>>8156030
>violet isn't on the list
it's shit
>>8156030
why the fuck am i not on here you motherfucker
i demand that you delete this post haste
furthermore, i ask that you delete yourself
>>8156030
>cartman got a vote
Whoever did that was joking right?
>>8156030
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12804093
Woo I didn't make the list!
>>8156053
I hope so.
>never end up on any lists at all except maybe FBI watchlists
>>8156047
Thinspo might conflict with the idea of eating more. I used to browse there least summer, I don't think thats the right place to go.
>>8156030
The smartest trips are the ones that don't post here anymore.
>>8155999
I think there are like 2-3 girls in denver
and there's one in colorado springs too
>>8156065
I'm not on it and I've been here for years
>>8156065
Who are these newbies
>>8156059
I was thinking of eating less so that you reduce you're leg muscle mass and after that eating more to get retrieve the lost weight
Anyways you can always cover your legs if they realllly don't pass
>tfw to intellogent to be on the list
>>8156065
The list is kind of bogus anyway since in terms of sheer knowledge Elanna is better than everyone else combined since she's getting her master's in STEM.
if ur on a 'mtfg list' it probably means you're an ugly hon and or should get a life from posting on here too much
>>8156030
This has devolved into trips voting for themselves and Elanna fangirls.
is it bad if i consider myself the smartest trip on mtfg
when i'm manic i feel like i'm gonna rule the world w/ my porn empire
i mean i can't really think of anyone here who's really accomplished a lot
edie's got her porn thing going but that's a "leave your intellect at the door" sort of thing
>>8156073
First time I've seen you
>>8156087
Oh the ironing
>>8156053
CARTMANS MY HUSBANDO
>>8156082
Phienchen has a master's or so in history, so she's also a contender. It's really a debate on how you measure "smartness".
>>8156078
>tfw too intelligent to be smart and instead pretend to be retarded
>>8156091
Trashy is an oldfag NO BULLY
Been there, done that, messed around
I'm having fun; don't put me down
I'll never let you sweep me off my feet
I won't let you in again
The messages I've tried to send
My information's just not going in
Burning bridges shore to shore
I'll break away from something more
I'm not turned on to love until it's cheap
Been there, done that, messed around
I'm having fun; don't put me down
I'll never let you sweep me off my feet
This time, baby, I'll be
Bulletproof
>>8156075
My fat likes to go to the stomach, my legs don't get much of it at all. Eating more would give me a huge tummy so I'm a little stuck.
>>8156096
Anyone got that picture he posted of himself
>>8156090
what kind of people actually pay for porn?
>>8156082
Passing a degree doesn't make you smart. She never talks about anything science related and she doesn't even work in the field. She's just going to do a masters because her life is going nowhere. Someone like Nicotine has a degree and actually shows some passion for it.
>>8156043
>another thing to parade an identity you probably don't even have any claim to
you're jumping to conclusions real fast here my dear
>>8156104
Stop eating sugar!
>>8156098
>masters in chemistry
>synthesizing new compounds to alleviate chronic and crippling illnesses
>creating entire new industries and making safer compounds
>solving global warming
>destruction and safe disposal of hazardous materials
>masters in history
>arguing on the history channel about world war 2 again
>>8156112
I mean, I voted for Elann, I was just saying Sophie's a contender too.
>>8156107
Why would anyone talk about science on mtfg? It's full of literal retards like shakira who think the ability to sperge about highschool level math makes you smart.
>>8156106
eh, some people have very specific smut fantasies
what i don't get is when people ask for generic stuff, like one person just wanted a woman getting raped by a dog in a forest
i also got stuff like a first person (IIRC, maybe it was second person) fic about fucking the guy's cowboy bebop waifu
>>8156107
>Passing a degree doesn't make you smart
Getting into grad school isn't exactly easy..
>She never talks about anything science related
Because nobody besides me cares for anything related to chemistry.
>Life is going nowhere
With a master's you have many high end positions that pay enormously well for valuable work.
Elanna obviously has a passion for it, you just need to get her on the topic of it.
>>8156112
>master's in sociology
>hate absolutely everybody and everything
>have no hope for the world to ever get better
>want to believe in this better world but you know it's about as fake as the easter bunny
>end up arguing with trannies online about marxism until you're a shrivelled husk of a human being while your peers all move on and form families and live happy successful lives
>>8156109
I already try and eat as little sugar as I can because it causes severe acne, no candy or high sugar things for me, my body wasn't built for female fat.
>>8156108
I won't let you turn around
And tell me now I'm much too proud
To walk away from something when it's dead
Do, do, do your dirty words
Come out to play when you are heard
There's certain things that should be left unsaid
Tick, tick, tick, tick on the watch
And life's too short for me to stop
Oh, baby, your time is running out
I won't let you turn around
And tell me now I'm much too proud
All you do is fill me up with doubt
This time baby
I'll be
Bulletproof
>>8156118
I've just seen her ask math grads here for help with her drone project how is that sperging? And she seems to know a lot of math and physics for someone with no degree.
>>8156124
You could easily get a job within government.
>>8155999
denver mtfg meetup when
>>8156139
Never! ;_;
>father is a mentally ill self-made millionaire
>grandfather on his side has an iq of 140, grandmother is ~136
>great grandfather was a well-respected math professor
>had two or three mentally ill great grand uncles who had to go to institutions
>mother's side doesn't have much going for it but my russian grandmother wrote poetry a lot, maybe that's where i got that
i'm lined up 4 a wild ride girls
>>8156143
wait are you in denver too?
>>8156130
das a guud song :D
>>8156090
If you have to brag about yourself, you ain't shit bb.
>>8156155
I went to school in Korea so I can answer that question for you. We're not taught to learn there, we're taught how to do well on tests to look good.
>>8156155
the west is ahead of korea because of historians?
>>8156151
No xD
>>8156170
That's the general idea of any university tho.
You retain like 30% of anything regurgitated after the fact
>>8156136
probably but sociology still crushed my youthful idealism forever
ha ha of course Pandora would unironically say she is the smartest person here
>>8156193
wow I don't know how I accidentally that whole sentence but you get the idea
well girls granny korra is just too old for parties anymore. i had one last night and I didn't really enjoy it much at all and ended up sleeping for a long time after I got home because I stayed up so late
>>8156170
South or north Korea
>>8156160
>you ain't shit bb.
i mean, yeah
but i will be if i can get over the 'mental illness' part of my gene pool
i don't think that post was really me bragging, though
i just haven't really seen anyone here do much that i could use to put them on a level above me
alines seems like she's a pretty good programmer, but beyond that we're pretty commonly united by a lack of success
>>8156104
Won't that change though when you get on pills ?
anyway some cis women do have dry legs
>>8156204
I am sorry that you didn't enjoy your party :( The party like isn't that exciting! Now, vaporwave .. that's exciting xD
>>8156209
Its been years. You're right about some having smaller legs but it still upsets me a bit.
>>8156207
Heh.
I mean, I'm pretty damn accomplished.
Holding out on moving out west for my name change.
Still getting hammered with oilfield job offers, but, biding my time to get all my trans shit together before I go back.
>there was a time when you where going to go to university and try and present female
ha ha funny how things work out
>>8156206
That's not a question you ever need to ask lol
>>8156207
It did come off as crying about being in a rich family with some mental health illness
>>8156224
all i know about you is you were a mechanic or s/t
at some point i'm going to be making a shitload of dosh
i just gotta get my shit together
i can get about 15$ an hour as is and that's with a portfolio the size of a limp chicken penis
>>8156236
You're right, no one would go to worst Korea.
>>8156238
>rich family
that's true and not
my dad is rich af but has major personality issues and stopped paying child support
my grandparents are living pretty well but have been having financial issues because my grandfather's dying of cancer
so i was stuck living with my extremely poor mother and stepdad on a farm in rural hawaii
>/mtfg/ talking about me yet again
>I'm a sperg for sharing my hobbies
Kay
>>8156133
I go to the library and teach myself whatever I want to know. School isn't the only way. School teaches you bullshit you don't need to know at an exorbitant cost.
>>8156155
I hate this mindset, one of the reasons why I turned my back on formal STEM is because the were all elitist assholes who denigrated my other interests in history, art and music. Contemporary art is bullshit according to their narrow analytical minds who think art=depicting reality. I can't jam with such people.
>>8156219
it's kay it just made me realize im not that young 20 something i used to be :P
do guys like cone tits
>>8156258
>Contemporary art is bullshit according to their narrow analytical minds who think art=depicting reality.
it's true though
that's not to say you can't make good art without depicting reality
but the vast majority of 'abstract art' is lazy hacks who want to pretend their psychedelic squares hold the secret to the universe
>>8156267
Straight and bi guys like tits.
>>8156265
ur like 25 you fucking artist
>>8156240
My bread and butter is petroleum logistics mech.
Currently, I'm an auto mech while I bide my time in this liberal state for my name, gender, srs, etc.
But, I keep getting offers to go back b/c of my resume. Was making 97-115k/ year, offers are about the same and i'm about a year off from my degree... which'll land me in yet a higher pay brakcet.
Too many bad experiences of being a known tranny in the oilfield.
Rn, I'm stealth apart from my boss knowing b/c of my legal name/id.
...which happened after oil dropped out and I left b/c my wife wanted to go to asthetician school.
Like I said,
If you have to brag, you ain't shit bb.
The biggest fish are the most silent (and there's bigger unknown fish on here every day)
>>8156267
small/flat tiddies best
>>8156267
No, not really.
>>8156280
>If you have to brag, you ain't shit bb.
i already agreed with you though
my manic periods are helped by me expressing myself as such because i have a hell of a lot of trouble actually concentrating on my work
that sounds cool though
you keep doing you
i'm going to write porn for a stable income, then maybe try to publish a novel or two, and if i can make an income out of that i'd leave the smut behind
>>8156268
Wasn't it you who pissed off Honeybee by saying this?
If you think a piece of abstract art is bullshit it's likely that you don't understand it unless you really gave it a chance to understand it by looking at it for a few hours or even days. I myself used to think contemporary art was a joke but one day I got it. Same with music, I have so many albums that when I first listened to it I thought what is this random noise? But then one day I just felt it. Open your mind.
>>8156253
Not reaching out to your dad for cash
>>8156278
>fucking artists
hi
>like boys
>boys don't like me back
?_?
>>8156316
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
>>8156317
>Boys that I like don't like me
>Boys that do like me I have no feelings for
fuck you brain
>>8156304
yeah i did
as someone who actually really enjoys poetry and puts -effort- into writing it, nothing pisses me off more than seeing some lazy moron writing one or two lines, with no rhyme or meter whatsoever, and passing it off as poetry on par with those works that actually require tangible effort
2 AM
Her snores awake
A clock is ticking
Is the equivalent of me undressing, shitting on the floor, then rolling around in my own excrement, all while streaming to my many millions of youtube subscribers.
>>8156304
Did drugs help
>>8156317
are you cute
>>8156322
Learn to love them!
>>8156308
he was abusive and i hate him
>>8156317
I like you :-D
>>8156328
drugs always help :)
>tfw everyone thinks I'm a dumbass because I dropped out of college
It's great, I hate the nerd label, I've always just wanted to fit in and be normal. I'm a proud dumb dropout and I'm never ever going back.
Can anyone here make female voice pretending to make man voice voice?
>>8156267
no, guys like butts.
Soft, girly butts.
>>8156330
Is this how you get into all the trans panties
I'm the dumbest motherfucker in all of /mtfg/ and I'm transbian trash and I can't stop talking about rat hair and my life owns and I'm never going to die. Thank you.
>>8156341
Are you a boy
yay my hormones are here and I can pick them up on monday. ill have to be a little careful thi since diane is my AA and I heard it can cause blood clots. gonna use this with alot of caution and switch back to Cypro. thankfully it's only like 35mg per pill so I should be okay if i keep active and look for any signs of clots
still tho really happy to be back inwfiel pills I never want to be off of them for nearly 3 months again my mood has been a freaking rollercoaster
>>8156357
Isn't everyone here?
>>8156350
That's easy?
>>8156343
Hahaha
>>8156357
The softest, sweetest, most strongest, and handsomest of boys.
Clever too.
>hand for proof
can someone buy me drugs i dont like being sad all the time
>>8156370
This but also me pls
>>8156370
How bout hugz nuggz and kissez?
>>8156370
Better start sucking
>>8156362
Mood swings are the wurst! I can never notice it myself. It feels normal :S
>>8156370
only if I get to smash up your trap pussy
>>8156380
part of the problem is that i never have any hugz and kissez
im so lonely and worthless and gross and garbage
>>8156377
Ilu seiryu
pandora your writing sounds like a 5th grader who just discovered how to use a thesaurus
>>8156363
Points
>>8156365
is it? proof?
>>8156390
You're lonely now, but the rest of that shit is self imposed and you know it.
>>8156404
if i wasn't those things then i wouldn't be lonely
>>8156397
How's my writing? I got a D in GCSE English.
>>8156387
ive been fighting with it for the past few months and on top of that hot flashes. im so ready to be back on hormones it's been a difficult wait
>>8156397
Burn
>don't want to work
>need money
>>8156409
Then stop being those things.
They're in your head.
I bet you're really good at being a little spoon/Huggy body pillow
>>8156412
stop trying to make sho
it that has nothing at all to do with you about you you desperate validation seeking autistic narcissist
>>8156412
I don't know but you should read the thing she rewrote yesterday it was fucking funny
>>8156417
Become a professional gamer or cam-model
I'm just going to spend all my 1s and 5s on scratch off lottery tickets and hope I hit a $500 or something
>>8156420
If I was "a narcissist desperate for validation" I wouldn't have revealed that I failed English in school.
>>8156379
>if it's succinct yet profound
that's the thing though
poetry is an art form with established rules and qualities
sidestepping all of them because you're too lazy to put whatever profound message you have into proper form is just distasteful
write a book or something, instead of trying to pass your maxims as poetry
>>8156397
i mean, i'm getting paid for it
so that's a win in my book ;^)
>>8156438
>Art has rules
Just stop.
>>8156432
Not good at games. I'm 25 and my reflexes are really poor now and I just don't have the capacity to play like if I was 14 anymore. That and estrogen saps any of my desire for competition. Also too ugly to camwhore.
>>8156437
then stop with the retarded "am I ___?" posts when no one is talking to you or about you. it makes you look like a desperate retard
>>8156441
yep!
poetry is supposed to be well written & sound nice
visual art is supposed to look good & be well drawn
music is supposed to sound good & evoke a particular emotion
apologies if i'm blowing your mind.
>>8156438
dude retarded people pay for all kinds of shit doesn't mean it's good
>>8156434
dont do that. you're throwing away money
>>8156446
Become a YouTube millionaire
>>8156446
You cant make money playing video games so dont sweat it.
>>8156467
The biggest streamers on twitch make 100k a year just playing games..
>>8156471
>just playing games
not just playing games
they have really entertaining personalities
>>8156464
Not starting a channel yourself
>>8156469
you never shut the fuck up and have diarrhea of the mouth. go suck some more dicks for drug money
>>8156471
My mum actually encouraged me to start streaming Total War games after one of my battles ended up on a famous youtuber's channel. I didn't bother, didn't think I was good enough.
>>8156469
okay look
i made this portrait to represent the state of contemporary art and the rapid decline of society.
it's very deep & beautiful in my opinion and conveys a heavy message about the true meaning of art
>>8156476
Anon has point you have to be hot or entertaining
>>8156476
Right, but they still make money primarily playing games. If those people tried to get into acting or comedy or something they'd fall flat over.
>>8156477
I have a channel but my internet is too poor to stream well and I'm not very interesting. I'm not really funny, attractive, or skilled.
>>8156480
It's something you have to really enjoy. In this day and age forget about becoming a big streamer since everyone has their own favorite streamer they watch that already have 40,000 subs.
Sup?
Legal name change forms are weird
Should I just leave my attorney info blank if I don't have an attorney?
>>8156488
are they really that complicated?
>>8156484
Who's Jamal
>>8156488
you should change your name to destiny or ebony or something
>>8156267
post em girl
>>8156500
My name's gonna be Crystal
>>8156493
Nah, I just don't know what to do with the attorney info.
HIPS WHERE ARE YOU
>>8156487
Then do a channel of you not being good at things
>>8156504
anyway, there's a big difference between low effort geometry and stuff where the person actually put an effort into it.
pic related
>>8156511
>Crystal
really? you should spell it with a k
>>8156515
>make a youtube channel where i make videos on how to cook or build stuff
>i do it so badly everyone thinks it's a parody channel where i injure myself on purpose to look retarded
>become famous and make money because everyone thinks i'm an idiot
Why is sucking dicks for drug money bad?
>>8156521
Money problems solved
>>8156511
oh, I want to do it sometime this spring or summer I think, had my mom pick out middle name already too
>>8156523
because you should just suck dick for the drugs directly
>>8156511
I wish I had hips like these ngl
>>8156519
Effort has nothing to do with artistic quality.
>>8156530
is it agp if you want to snort coke off a black guy's dick
asking for a (((friend)))
>>8156537
anything you do or want to do is by definition agp
>>8156534
skill's very obviously a better qualifier, but if you don't put effort into it, your stuff is gonna look like shit either way
seriously though please stop spewing the 'EVERYTHING CAN BE ARTISTIC' meme, because it's very gross to read, let alone conceptualize someone saying.
>>8156537
what if his dick moves, that's all the coke gone.
wouldn't it be nice to be able to express emotions like an actual normal human being
>>8156471
Most are watched for their personalities not because they are top 100 at whatever game they play. And more importantly theres maybe one person who makes a 100k theres only so much room at the top. Most people dont make enough money streaming.
>>8156546
According to you this is low effort bullshit
>>8156557
Thanks doc
who /drug free/ here?
>>8156557
pretty much
if the artist has anything meaningful to say, maybe he should try putting it into a form that isn't insulting to the medium at large?
>>8156549
wouldn't it b nice to not steal the pictures i have posted here.
>>8156549
yeah I sometimes wonder how that would be
>>8156569
>Henri Matisse is low effort bullshit
THE GENIUS HAS SPOKEN, BURN DOWN THE TATE MODERN, THROW IT ALL INTO THE TRASH
>>8156545
idk you could do both
giving her the fugg while also helping her with her life sounds like a nice relationship
>>8156567
SQUARE
>>8156567
No one likes you.
>>8156567
The ugly ones are always the boring ones.
>>8156567
Kind of but not really
I smoke pot every few months to de-stress and forget about things.
I drink socially but I can't afford to so that's pretty rare. I really need to get wasted with a friend though. It's just one of those days/weeks/months where I need to get fucked up and forget about my life.
what are you standards and deal breakers in men and/or women?
>>8156582
As the harbor is welcome to the sailor, so is passing to the tranny.
>>8156567
Same.
>waiting in absurdly long line for men's room at sporting event
>notice at different times at least 3 different guys awkwardly staring at me
what does it mean
Is it good to be confused for a ftm?
>>8156603
>tiny dick
>feminine
>broke
>doesn't have his life in order
that being said i would have sex with a femboy and dom him if i were single. not into girls at all, everything about them is a deal breaker especially trannies
>>8156582
>my famous squares are good because they're famous
?????????
is this like that kid who didn't want to take his sunglasses off because they were famous
>>8156571
every day is repost day
#AbstractLivesMatter
together WE can prevent artistic ableism
please like and retweet
>>8156619
I think it happens to me all the time.
>>8156622
You are so fucking plebeian.
>>8156610
Yeah brit, I should probably go again I really enjoyed it honestly its just not my thing. Also no idea who or what a "matisse" is im ultra pleb when it comes to art.
>>8156621
>broke
>doesn't have his life in order
these are deal breakers, right?
>>8156571
I always feel honored when someone reposts a picture I've posted
>>8156631
>you don't like my aristocratic squares so you're a filthy commoner
apologies *tips fedora*
look, as someone who is not very good at drawing but wants to be, it is insulting that you're suggesting there's no reason to improve my abilities because the most displeasing four minute sketch i can come up with can be considered an artistic masterpiece
>>8156636
yeah forgot to say those are all deal beakers. i dont t consider femboys relationship material bc i only want to date masc men but they would be fun for just a sex thing
>when she gets triggered by squares
>when she gets triggered by taste privilege
>>8156643
>Abstract artists can't draw
You are like those retards who think that free pianists can't play straight bebop
I want to headpat Amy
I am worried because she hasnt posted in a few days
>>8156626
>beautiful <3
tyvm
>being drug free
I was scared too once.
>>8156643
practice, practice, practice.
it's the only way to become good.
>masterpiece
is in the eyes of the beholder. I've had people go WOW! over rough hastily put together prototypes. Ya never know what will catch somebody's eye.
>>8156646
then what are your standards?
should I change from cypro to spiro?
my dick isn't really working very well these last few weeks
reducing to 25 mg seems like it just makes me hornier
a dead dick won't make me look like less of a dude desu
>>8156635
He was an artist who did a lot of colourful collages in the 1950s, check him out. I'm no art expert either, just someone who also enjoys galleries. There was an interesting contemporary gallery on Pall Mall that I went to once but I forgot it's name.
do you guys ever jerk off to vivid fantasies of killing someone?
>>8156688
trip on nicole
>>8156654
>i can draw but i choose not to
ah, excellent
you see, i can form coherent sentences, i just choose not to. but because i -can- form coherent sentences, it's entirely okay if i type things which have no meaning whatsoever. my choice to not bother using english properly is an exercise in thought provocation, validated by my ability to form coherent sentences. it represents a deviation from the norms of language, a rebellion against the cruel masters who we call spelling, grammar, even vocabulary. it is a spit in the face of society. packed with all the paperback meaning you could pick up for a dime at the garage sale.
>>8156665
beauty is in the eye of the beholder is really fucking stupid, because it devalues quality art.
sure, there's somebody out there with a taste shitty enough to appreciate -anything-, but his perception has no effect on the objective quality of a piece.
>I've had people go WOW! over rough hastily put together prototypes.
well, if you spent ten minutes in blender to make a really hastily assembled collection of blobs and text, i'm fairly certain you could impress somebody who has no experience with anything 3D
>>8156693
The force is just not with you is all I can say
>>8156669
>masculine cis male
>at least a 7/10
>good hygiene
>not obese
>well dressed and has some type of fashion sense
>either works full time or is a full time student
>has a plan for life and isn't content to just exist and not aspire to anything
>preferably drug free but weed is okay anything other than weed is a deal breaker
>meshes well with my personality
i dont ask for alot really
>>8156704
Dont reply to my posts you freak of nature straight failed male.
>>8156692
she prefers arson
>>8156603
>not a normie
>not a cis girl
>ok looking
>not sex obsessed / degenerate / etc.
>honest
yeah
>>8156703
>i dont ask for alot really
>>8156709
based...
>>8156718
cause you couldn't get laid with real women thats why you became one.
>>8156718
>disgusted by body hair
>disgusted by masculinity
>claims to have spontaneously lost interest in men before starting hrt
straightest gay guy ever desu
>>8156714
>not a normie
>not sex obsessed / degenerate / etc.
pick one
>>8156724
not true
I am loved by no person, even if others claim to love me they are fucking liars
>>8156716
if you think those are high standard or asking for alot then i want to see what your standards for a guy are :P
all I ask is for very basic adult stuff you should see what some of my cis girl friends look for on a guy it's ridiculous
>>8156730
but i'm not either
i can't be the only one
>>8156728
nah it was a slow process over like a month and a half
>>8156722
>I'm learning and at least I approach it with an open mind.
you're approaching it with the naivety of someone who has never so much as dipped a toe in the metaphorical swimming pool, to whom the slightest dab of color is a good enough reason to emit a series of 'ooh's and 'aah's
>my shitty art is good because i can choose to draw well if i want to
>>8156745
>slow process
>month and a half
>>8156745
It's because of narrow-minded autists such as yourself that things like this happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Abbott_McNeill_Whistler#Ruskin_trial
>>8156684
cool glad you enjoy it.
>>8156731
my only requirement for dating a cis man is that they take hormones for the duration of our relationship.
and maybe for a month prior to us beginning it, to prove that he's serious, you know.
>>8156688
That's pretty edgy
>>8156567
No drugs for me desu
>>8156745
That's not how sexuality works you failed straight man. You dont just take hrt and put on womens clothing and become sexually attracted to something else. Not how sexuality works.
Thats why you all claim bi so when you realize you're not into men you juat go back into women. The only reason you pretend to be into men becuse "thats what girls do xD"
have you ever felt like you fit in
>>8156755
>cis man
>hormones
stop fucking lying already. you were never attracted to men and it's so obvious that you keep making stuff up
>>8156749
>narrow minded autist
i'd think the autist here would be the one calling anyone who doesn't like her autism squares a plebeian.
nevermind the fact that she presumes to have some sort of high standing to judge people from.
>>8156761
i started disliking men before i started taking hormones.
also i don't crossdress.
>>8156764
idk ask my ex boyfriend who i pre-ordered dishonored 2 for
>>8156603
They have to be Tanya
>>8156693
no it isn't stupid. Sometimes a piece of art is exceedingly simple in concept and creation, other pieces are very complex. What makes it art is how it effects the viewer. Sure the best skilled artists are much more likely to create a great piece, but it isn't only skill. Vision is just as important, if not much more important.
I wish birch would filter himself from reality. ive never seen someone this autistic here in my two years of posting.
Im sleepy
>>8156763
not once
>>8156783
>Vision is just as important
if all you can see is squares i think you need better glasses
>>8156763
Nope
>Talk about engineering, /mtfg/ calls me a sperg
>Talk about contemporary art, /mtfg/ calls me a retard
>Talk about criminology, /mtfg/ calls me a SJW
>Talk about music, /mtfg/ calls me old
>Talk about history, /mtfg/ doesn't even reply.
>>8156770
It's not that you don't like it, it's that you declared it to be shit. Say "it's not to my taste" next time to at least try to appear less presumptuous.
>>8156758
good girl *head pat*
>>8156761
just to chime in from my perspective: i was a hardcore dyke pre hrt and for maybe the first 4ish months. but as i become more comfortable with the idea of me being a girl and somewhat more feminine outwardly the more my attraction to guys grew. it started as just feminine guys and traps then the attraction grew to androgynous guys and finally masculine men.
but that being said im pretty sure I was just a repressed homo as a dude because I was raised to think homo is bad and I didn't even allow myself to have gay thoughts or entertain the idea out of fear of liking it despite crossdressing for many years in secret
so maybe it's something similar with
pandora maybe not. but I will agree that 1 month seems fishy to be attracted to men and then lose it. I lost my attraction to girls in general and consider myself mostly straight but even then I sometimes see a butch looking masculine girl or an androgynous one and get a little blushy
>>8156763
when im with nerds yeah
>>8156785
it was burch, by the way.
as in, anthony burch
i doubt you were even here when i was using that name
>>8156795
it is objectively shit. low effort trash. i recommend you practice drawing more. and i mean real drawing! draw people. draw parks. draw an octopus anally ravaging a horse. once you've mastered the skills to do so, you may be able to appreciate art which actually required the artist to tap into talent and expend considerable effort.
sorry if i'm triggering you!
>>8156761
also i couldn't give less of a fuck about whether or not most women like men
i identify with lesbians lmao
>>8156806
consider shame
>>8156806
>draw people. draw parks. draw an octopus
So original! Much vision! Wow!
>>8156761
we have posts exactly like yours nearly every day
try to innovate if you're going to post garbage, at least
>>8156797
coffee gives me anxiety
I'm trying liquid eyeliner for the first time and I look like a fucking mess lmao
>>8156817
i mean that anon isn't totally wrong tho... the only part I disagree with is the bi part becsuse i know of straight trannies
>>8156806
>posts pics of his dick
>posts pictures of his cum on his foot
>"I identify with lesbians!"
>>8156819
Try sleeping then. Its coffee, sleep or suffering, pick one.
makeup scares me
>>8156819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6qJh9upqW8
>>8156823
a neat tip for liquid eyeliner is to line with a normal one first and then trace over it with the liquid one
i never used the other kind and can only do liquid, xD
>>8156823
I hate that shit too. Stick to kohl.
jlist is selling virgin killer sweaters
>>8156829
it's kind of intimidating sometimes
a friendly girl at work told me to try this one lipstick thought and I keep getting compliments when I wear it
shoutouts to cis girls
>>8156829
it takes practice and time to learn but worth it in the end
>>8156840
looks really bad on 3d desu
My womb has been fertilized by a strong and attractive man that I love!
Pandora is an autistic animal in a cage. Everyone just look and laugh at this ape.
>>8156855
i disagree
some girls make it work as good as 2d
probably impossible for an mtf without tits to do so though
>>8156791
sometimes it isn't the dots, but the colors and arrangement of them.
<< it maybe just 3 brush strokes. Not my work, but I like it.
>>8156861
Mean.
>roommate had a little laser thing so i did a once over on my face
guess we'll see how that works
>>8156816
>draw red squares
>draw green squares
>draw blue squares
>draw a triangle
i never knew art could be this diverse.
>>8156864
i mean idk look at the model pic on jlist
it doesn't have the same effect because real life doesn't have anime physics
>>8156873
looks cute to me
except the nose ring
>>8156868
it looks like a vagina?
and i guess it's well drawn for what it is, but it's not on the same level as anything that actually took serious effort.
for example, pic related.
i think im going to be a satanist.
God put me on this earth to be pitied and laughed at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dojZdgCGYW8
>>8156873
you were saying?
>>8156881
kek what a ridiculous article of clothing
>>8156853
Yeah.
>>8156829
Just start with the basics and no bright colours.First step is finding a foundation that matches your skin tone, second step is finding a lipstick and lip liner that isn't too garish. This is my everyday makeup, just foundation and a dark lipstick that highlights my lips but doesn't stand out too much.
>>8156868
Just give up she's beyond help.
こんばんわ。
What is happening in this thread
>>8156887
>no (you)
are you angry i left out the various different colors you could draw triangles in
>driving at work
>making a protected left turn with right of way
>some fat couple in a jeep try to cut me off
>they immediately start blasting the horn while I wait for them to move since now I'm stuck in the intersection
>woman comes waddling over to my car and starts trying to open the door
>put hand inside jacket and before I can even draw and rack the slide on my gun they already fucked right off so fast their tires were squealing
Attempting to remove someone forcibly from their home or vehicle can be met with deadly force in Texas. I could have legally shot her since she was escaping an attempted battery and kidnapping scene. Today has a LOT of angry and aggressive and dangerous drivers and I don't like it. Should I fill out a police report or not bother?
which of these 4 anime clothing memes do you like the most
>>8156891
konbanwa elanna-chan
I am so jelly of Emma Stone
>>8156891
こんばんは*
はじめまして
>>8156893
.....this?
>>8156898
they're all slutty garbage
>>8156910
>not wanting to dress up for your weeb bf
Apparently I pass pretty well at 125 lbs
>>8156896
Remind me never to go to Texas
>>8156893
basically i don't like abstract art.
>>8156903
I thought oh said yooka-laylee was good?
>>8156923
あなたは私の彼女になりますか?
>>8156603
my only dealbreakers are being masculine, obese, unsanitary and having a shitty unstable personality
>>8156916
i'd prefer a gf who objectifies me more tastefully
>>8156927
This happens a lot more in shitholes like california and new jersey where you're not allowed to defend yourself
idk why but i want to kill myself really badly right now.
im honestly useless...sorry pandora for bullying you. Im not any better.
Ive never apologized for shitpost bullying before. You dony deserve the brunt of my misery.
I jumped in front of a car today and smashed my head against the ground. I moved before the car hit me. I just started crying walking home repeating life is worthless over and over. My automatic thinking from my subconscious told me to end it. I really fucking should end it. I am human garbage. There is nothing good about me whatsoever why cant god just kill me. Nature has a way of killing the weak and i am the weak and its killing me slowly. While the world advances in front of my eyes i stay far behind because of reasons. I have to be completely insane and use so much bullshit mental gymnastica just to convince myself to keep fighting.
Thia world isnt worth it and i found out stimulants make me really really suicidal. I think im going to take more over the next few days and hopefully die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygIU9tzrP0
>>8156922
you do look pretty good in recent pics and I would gender you female as a stranger. get good with makeup and gain a few more lbs and you'll be set. I would straighten my hair too if I were you but there just a personal pref o don't care for curly hair
>>8156946
It was basically a shitty version of banjo-kazooie
>>8156933
はい
くそです
>>8156939
いいえ
ごめん :(
>>8156946
お元気ですか?
>>8156934
If I could draw I'd show you what I mean, I'd make that look good, i think the concept is there, it just needs the right execuiton. Also do those pigtails suit me or do I look like Stefonknee?
>>8156957
>sorry pandora for bullying you.
it doesn't really phase me at this point unless i'm friends with the person desu
but even then i'll usually just 'other' them and then i'm good
anyway you should prooooobably go to a psych ward or something
idk, that helped me a lot. right now i'm just waiting it out to find antideps that work
when you're cooped in and afraid of anything you tend to feel ridiculously hopeless
being homeless for a bit helped me with that because it showed me my worst fears were never really all that bad
>>8156968
the problem is that as an art piece it's absolute shit
i'm going to try to redraw it as something that's actually -good-
but concept does not equal quality
anyway your pigtails look good i guess?
Don't you all just fucking love spring?
>>8156967
エランナは良いだよ。
A wizard offers to make you an 11/10 qt.
However, breaking the attraction scale is not done likely. Some men might be driven mad to the point where they try to sexually assault you, and car crashes WILL happen if you walk in public unless you wear something extremely conservative like a burqa. Would you take up the offer? It's unlikely anyone would ever look beyod your beauty
>>8156958
HUGBOX
U
G
B
O
X
>>8156991
do I get to be cis?
if so yes
>>8157007
>Can I just be a 10/10 instead?
No that's a shit hypothetical.
>>8156996
すごいです!
>>8156990
ハグバクス
>>8156878
It could also be a twig. ;) When I was younger I had collected up a tree branch that looked similar and had it on my wall. Personally I see an off angle crotch. I've also done similar minimalist body part drawings and sculptures.
>>8156957
*HUGS*
Seek therapy.
One of the reasons I stopped using NYC's subway was I was so tempted to jump out in front of one.
That few months before an after my 15th b-day were crazy bad.
I wish someone would just murder me because I'm too much of a coward to kill myself
>>8157030
same tbdesu
I lost the only person in this world who made me feel loved
probably going to just get a gun from somewhere and shoot myself in my bath tub soon
>>8156957
Go get help, wont get any better if you dont.
>>8157018
いいえ。本当!
>>8157024
Same, but with the reasons of being a huge fucking weeb. I need to get back into reading more on it. What are you using to learn the grammar?
>>8157024
日本語はよくわからない
;____;
>tfw don't actually know if I'm stable because I lie to myself and others about my mental health and fluctuate between content with life and extremely suicidal too often
>>8157040
if you're not awake by the time i'm done with this i'm going to fly to england and kill you myself
im about to write my goodbye note. i don't want to tell my friends because they will worry, but i felt like i should tell someone.
>>8157049
Well you kinda just answered your own question there didnt you.
>>8157052
May your attempt be painless and successful
wish me good luck as well please
>>8157056
good luck. we will be happier next time
>>8157052
Dont kill yourself please.
>>8157041
at the moment just genki. Once I finish that I've heard tae kim is supposed to be pretty good? How long have you been learning it? I started back in january but only work on grammar on the weekends. so I'm not particularly far through the book :X
>>8157046
;_; yeah me neither
but I'm learning, slow and steady
so i guess its a suicide pack?
3 suicid anons at once...based...
Ill shoot nyself on cam might as well put on a show
>>8157066
Tae kims good for just the basics. Read tae kim than go to /djt/ on /jp/ or /int/ for the DOJG guide.
Ive been studting for nearly 3 years.
>>8157054
I guess so
I'm in a public space right now and being blasted by a huge wave of suicidal thoughts and it's overwhelming
But I know if I go back to my apartment I'll probably self harm or try to drink it away
>>8157066
> tae kim is supposed to be pretty good
That's what I've been using! That site introduced me to rikai-kun and jisho. I started like a year ago but I've ended up getting distracted by other things in life and I've been half-assed about it since. I've just been translating bits of text ad hoc when I feel like it. I know more than when I started, at least. I should make a proper regimen and stick to it. Same with all the other half-learnt languages in my head.
>>8157074
I'd be up for it tonight I guess
I have nothing in my future, even with people telling me I do, so fuck it
Let's go for it
>>8157066
I'm basically just starting you know way more than me.
I did just pick up genki this week though I hope it treats me well
>>8157074
>Read tae kim than go to /djt/ on /jp/ or /int/ for the DOJG guide.
Oh cool. thanks for the tip
>>8157080
awwww yeah
>I should make a proper regimen and stick to it.
Yeah this is suuuuper important I found. When I tried teaching myself russian ~5 years ago I wasn't very disciplined but now I have a schedule, I treat it like I'm taking a class. it's been helpful so far I reckon
>>8157085
:) I wish you the best of luck
tfw slightly hungover still from yesterday's hangover
sore
though i did cuddle through a bit of it so it was decent
how're we today mtfg
im talking to my gf and life's good
>>8157083
I dont own a gun...im probably going to jump off something spontaneously or cut myself violently when my sub tells me ebough is enough or hop a train...
You shouldn't do it :3
>>8157088
Im a /djt/ oldfag from 2014. Studied for 3 years seriously off and on so im decent. I can resd what you girls are trying to say without looking anything up and can play final fantasies and dragon quests good.
>>8157085
Its pretty tough sweety.
>>8157040
I'd just spent the previous 7 years being teased, harassed and beat up with no real friends my own age. That culminated in my nearly getting killed when run down by a car and beat up with baseball bats. After the beating I'd was a virtual prisoner in my home because I was to afraid to even go out in the woods behind my house, let alone my development. I really wasn't all that stable as I was dealing with the trials and tribulations of making a home on my own in NYC.
>>8157059
ain't no next time senpai
this is what ya got
what's being institutionalized like?
>>8157099
actually, there's a train that runs at night near me
I think I'll just do that
>>8157078
Call a hotline, go home, call a friend, just dont self harm or drink it wont help in the long run.
>>8157094
Cuddling? Nice. I'm alright, apparently I'm gonna put effort into learning Japanese again. Eventually.
>>8157108
But then it got better right? You started transitioning, turned out a hot model, did heroin with cool people in Manhattan apartments and.........how did you go from that to conversion camp and spending the next 30 years living in bumfuck nowhere? Why didn't you at least go back to NYC after they released you and tried retransitioning?
>>8157099
that's really cool!! I hope I can get to that point eventually. I'd think once you get to the point you can play games or read simple books/stories it gets much easier and more fun to learn and practice?
>>8157119
yeah cuddles with old-time friends who married each other
was good
anta wa baka gaijin desu
this stuff is the tits
Warning puny tiddies ahead.
https://unsee.
cc/nezumipa/
Someone tell me if this is bad progress for 7 months of HRT or not.
>>8157132
i'd give em the succ
>>8157137
Okay, but are they too small. I feel like they should be bigger
>>8157127
For me personally it makes anime amazing because youre learning a skill with each episode you watch which is amazing.
Games are still a bitch tbqh tho ngl because of kanji. Like looking up kanji from games is such a chore that almost ruins the expierence.
Also get anki. The guide will show you how to do it. Ive been using anki for years.
>>8157112
You should just come over instead and we can get drunk together and cry together every night as we fight our way into making ourselves successful...
>>8157111
the local psych ward was real nice but i've heard on the mainland it can be bad
it'll at least get you the help you need
>>8157132
Pretty good.
>>8157132
they're qt desu
>>8157143
Nah sounds terrible
I am deciding on giving up here
Not even my ex could save me at this point they don't want anything to do with me
>>8157143
Yeah I use anki :) And I'm putting a TON of effort into kanji. I try to learn production for kanji as well since I learned in college that writing stuff out helps me remember things.
>>8157135
>Does it taste like gay?
yes and its delicious
>>8157152
>>8157153
https://youtu.be/FpH0gre8AQw
>>8157118
I'm a shut in, I have no friends
I don't want to call a hotline and have them trace me
I've always just self harmed or gotten drunk because that's all that's ever worked
I lie to my therapist because I know how he'd react to everything I think or do when I get suicidal urges
>>8157174
no you don't
no one loves me
no one could ever be capable of loving me
>>8157178
I love you.i wish you were mine
>>8157178
>>8157126
look out at the archive.
>>8157174
lol yeah. My japanese handwriting is atrocious but I'm trying to slow down and learn to write properly.
but it sounds like I'm on the right track then. I have 3 cards for each word, one where it shows the kanji and I need to produce the meaning and reading, one with the reading and I produce the kanji and meaning, and one with the meaning and I produce the reading and kanji.
I really appreciate the advice anon, it's really helpful. I'll check out /djt/ too
>>8157185
i dont like this image because it's shitty knowing that it's literally not true
there isn't anyone who loves me
im all alone
>>8157174
Based..
>>8157186
cmon just greentext it you know you want to
This video makes me wish I had a gf. Or bf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07rR6lymGcU&feature=youtu.be
>>8157182
no you don't
>>8157185
>>8157185
For someone like me, having people fucked up enough to think I'm amazing is kind of a scary thought.
Joking. I'm totally awesome.
>>8157197
Am I awesome?
>>8157199
In you own crazy way.
>>8157199
Kill yourself.
>>8157207
the fuck is wrong with you, why do you keep saying I love you when you don't know who I am
you don't love me
>>8157207
I can't, I'm a pinhead
>tfw no gf
>>8157206
>>8157207
>Just know youre making a huge sacrifice just to be a super weeb...
i knowwwwwwww
but it's worth it....
>>8157194
I don't want to think about it. I also have C-PTSD from that period in my life.
what's something you can say to someone who is sad to make them feel better
>>8157178
never say never...
>>8157229
it doesn't get better though
>>8157217
get a clue
Read a book
Make some friends
Grow up
Get a life
Call your parents
Work on your resume
Write a diary
>>8157214
becuse when im suicidal thats what i want to hear. I just want soneone to love who i am and how hard i work. I love you anon.
>>8157222
kek
The grammar is easy. The only hard part is kanji and vocab and all of that. But you get to a point where you cab figure simple styff through context. My readings at like a japnese 1st grade or so.
>>8157220
you owe me oral sex when i'm done with this
>>8157227
PTSD is impossible to understand for anyone who doesn't suffer from it.
>>8157237
Seek sunlight
>really want to get new airshit gun
>need clothes
>need money for anime convention
Being a girl is gay wtf
>>8157256
are you saving up money to move out?
>>8157262
I thought I made someone really happy at one point too, but that wasn't the case I guess
and no I currently do nothing that improves the world in any sense
I've started finding cute things a lot more appealing since I began transition which I feel is less a biological thing and more "letting go of masculine nonsense that was defining me before".
Hasn't made me enjoy metal any less though.
>>8157247
I know those feelies
feelies bad
>>8157256
>Become a headpats only escort
>Get all the moneys
>Buy all the things you want
So simple Grace-chan, so simple.
>google carrot for drawing reference (fuck off the leaves and shit are hard to draw)
>"References To Salvador Dali Make Me Hot – Single Carrot Theatre"
>>8157264
Yeah.
I have no concrete plans for it at the moment so I'm saving slowly.
>>8157275
Hm
How do I market this
How much do I charge
>>8157280
you are dumb for thinking I could find anyone better
or even that they are the main reason I am suicidal
>>8157280
not really
i haven't watched anime in a while
feel i don't have the time for it
>>8157240
Eww
>>8157282
https://youtu.be/7b3NV6LqlGk
>>8157262
I'll hugg u better
>>8157237
I mean I read harry potter in 1st grade so if I can get to the equivalent japanese level I'll be able to read some weeb LNs I hope
I'm gonna make it
>>8157256
>tfw always looking at clothes that I probably could afford if I wasn't saving 90% of my income for surgery
unfair desu....
>finally get a dicking after months of thirst
>can't stop thinking about it
>crave more
h e l p
e
l
p
>>8157292
Can I have one?
>>8157242
and C-PTSD doubly so.
it fucking totally warps your mind, and what is worse is your brain ends up hardwired with fear and abandonment responses magnified.
>>8157247
You may find another. You just can't give up looking. If I gave up when my first real lover died, I'd have checked out before I was 16. Instead I kept going and trying. A year later I was in a wonderful relationship with a nice couple.
>>8157311
No point in trying
fuck off
>>8157308
I wish your bf would dick you more so you'd shut up about it jfc Korra
>>8157293
iktf
i just want a pretty dress like this
>>8157311
Died? May I ask what happened to them if its not going to dig up anything too emotional?
>>8157285
when do you turn 21?
>>8157323
August, why?
>>8157315
Instead I'm crying in my room alone and ruining a shirt
>>8157315
This relationship is abusive tho memes aside ngl tbqh tbvh
>>8157309
No
>>8157321
brings a tear to my eye
what a beautiful powerful statement
I can't do this anymore
I can't do anything right in life, I'm going to be a failure and a man forever
I'm a worthless human being who's only been able to think about and write over and over for the past hour that I deserve to die
If I died right now nobody would know for a couple of days, nobody would find me and stop me
But my friend is suicidal too and killing myself would make her kill herself, and I'm the only one who deserves to die
I can't take existing anymore
>>8157335
o....oh
....ok then
>>8157308
Cocklust is a hell of a thing
>>8157338
You need weed & exercise & sunlight bb
>Gone for a year and all the tripfags are different.
What happened? Did they wise up and get off 4chan? Or are they kill?
>>8157356
you'll make it
I am actively deciding not to make it
>>8157263
At the surface it was a great time, but underneath things were fucked up bad. The two people who were most motherly and fatherly to me were my lovers. My own parents were distant and never around for me. Despite being successful at everything I tried, I felt totally worthless and had a shitty self image. It took lots of love and kindness from my lovers to get me feeling better about myself.
>>8157359
I'm still alive.
>>8157376
Sorry to make you sad then
>>8157338
go to your friend for support, lean on each other for support, you can make it though this anon
>>8157380
:3 bby..
>>8157379
>tfw if i suddenly disappear from /mtfg/ its either because my life has either improved massively OR i killed myself
>>8157356
I will bench press u ngl
>>8157402
a real man like you could bench me like its nithing ngl tbqh. Ud bench me on hand whole drinkimg a protein shake tho tbqh.
I have been having a hard time living
>>8157322
I still go numb.
>>8157413
Finally someone who defers to my true raw dominant masculinity
I'm a real man tho I could snap u like a twig with my boner tbqh ngl all memes aside tho
I think I made it.
I'm actually passing.
Even creepy old guys think I'm a girl.
>>8157447
yeah you're cute
>>8157447
I'm sorry, I'm just so happy...
I don't really have anyone I can talk to about it and share the excitement with...
>>8157443
sorry to hear that stay strong ambi :(
>>8157362
Lol are you me.
... I'm still in the 'in progress' bit tho :/
how do i become a real tranny
>>8157456
you should be happy sweetie
>>8157442
It's been a pleasure
Have a good night!
>>8157456
congraps
>>8157452
Thank you <3
Honestly, this means so much to me right now. I'm super depressed for no good reason, and every little positive interaction I have cheers me up a bit.
>>8157463
<3 I know, I just don't know why I'm not...
>>8157470
tfw 2 yous in 1 post
shakira better not be wimping out on me
i've got some abstract art up my pocket and i'm going to shove it down her throat
tfw your mom bullies you and says she has more muscle on her arms than you :^(
>>8157478
You're the only one replying to me, so yeah lol.
>>8157486
regardless, you should feel happy about yourself <3 hugs
hey do you think i'd get banned for posting almost-porn if the dick is a carrot and the balls are apples
>>8157492
do it fgt
>>8157492
Hopefully
>>8157492
you could always imager it.
>>8157486
i replied last time but someone said hugboxing
>>8157483
cute lil nim
>>8157483
I've missed you these past few threads.
I hope you've been doing well.
https://youtu.be/d5NbGlZtaGw
>>8157490
im better tonight, i split my cypro dose in half last night and i think that helped
that's the only reason i can think of from going from suicidal depression to decent in like 24 hours
i hope you're doing well
>>8157504
It's not hugboxing if it's true lol
>>8157491
Huggggggg
>>8157506
yeah ive been feeling better
how are you?
>>8157517
you're a cutie
if I wasn't so nervous I would ask to add you on something
>>8157516
sounds good to stick with that, your production is probably nuked pretty good by now
Had a weird evening. Spent the best part of it chatting with a cop and a customs officer. We talked shop, then about the best ways to keep annoying guys away, all agreed talking about periods worked best, then we ended up reminiscing about the Parisian goth scene in the 90s. Cool girls, wouldn't mind spending more time with them.
>>8157519
same as a few days ago: very stressed about uni
>>8157527
Discord is Isotera#9066
No need to be shy <3
>>8157447
ok but how do i make myself look like a cat
>>8157492
the mods are selective. they will invent a reason if they simply don't like you. and will let shit slide if they do.
>>8157553
im gonna yank your ponytail sonic
>>8157483
hugg nim
>>8157516
Reasonable tonight. A little crying but it was minor. My switching back to spiro has my face clearing up nicely, and I'm not feeling any jump in feeling worse metabolically. So that is making me feel much better about myself.
>>8157540
That sounds nice.
>customs
Reminds me of going through both French and US customs in full morning garb. Fastest I've ever made it through customs. Enter the customs room, get escorted to a newly opening line, they barely a look at my passport, and then being told I could go. No bag check, no questions, no nothing.
>>8157541
how's the essay coming along
>>8157563
a lot better. I think I've found some theoretical links I can work out to make the essay better.
>>8157561
>full morning garb
?
>>8157561
oh right, spiro helps with acne doesn't it
i don't really have any acne but i have a lot of large pores, redness and hyperpigmentation
been trying a million things to get rid of them x-x
>>8157557
nah i could EASILY beat you up
>>8157566
oh good!
you had your breakthrough like you said you would :)
>>8157577
uuhhh did you see my guns?
>>8157581
yes i am unimpressed
besides i am the best street fighter on the block
what are good coping strategies for wanting to die
>>8157553
FFS - facial felinization surgery
You can start with the ears, they look a bit too human
>>8157544
maybe another time
i like happy goofy nim a lot more than depressed dysphoric nim
>>8157607
Pictured you showing up at the airport in a short nightie with a towel wrapped around your hair.
>>8157610
Revenge.
>>8157613
You know where to find me.
>>8157611
>>8157624
yeah i like getting revenge on myself but then it leaves me with scars
>when you realize you'll never be with her ever again
>>8157624
Exorcise that goat pls
>>8157635
Replace her with him and yeah I feel you
>>8157610
find something you enjoy doing with others.
>>8157617
I was in all black Andalusian cowgirl garb.
including black hat, veil, and boots. The boots had scars on them from learning to ride.
>>8157628
go to a doc about your redness, etc. There are other treatments, and what you have is likely different.
>>8157635
Think about the happy times, don't dwell on the loss.
>>8157631
looks like those french science guys
>>8157636
it's already exorcising it's neck :^)
hi girls its me Anonymous.
>>8157635
I'll never be completely without her. Not sure which is worse. I guess I learned a couple valuable lessons in the process. But they were costly ones.
>>8157635
Is that why you're transitioning?
>>8157652
Do you hack on steroids?
>>8157652
whoa you're Anonymous too??
>>8157641
i went to a dermatologist just for that issue and was told that it was just the undertone of my skin
oh and she said there was a medication going on the market for it but it wasn't gonna be available for a few months
and she didn't even give me the name x-x
>>8157652
Can you stop pretending to be me?
>>8157657
>tfw hacking my gender to female
Holy heck it is chilly in Texas I am freezing my balls off
>>8157679
Need warmth.
>>8157679
lewd
What instruments/medical products do I need to remove my own balls + coagulation?
>>8157686
>I'm not trans tho
Neither am I but don't tell anyone
>>8157679
>I am freezing my balls off
Saves you the cost of an orchi in that case.
>>8157635
>tfw I love her but she doesn't like me
>>8157661
OK, yeah different issues. For me only where it was flaking it would be red. the rest is a normal lightly freckled very light skin tone. My understanding is it is an overly rapid growth of the skin with some errors in breakdown properties between the cells. That means it flakes off skin layers a couple times a day. Short of a full wash and exfoliation twice a day it is hard to deal with other than by tweezers to remove the flakes.
>>8157686
never say never...
>>8157693
have a surgeon do it properly so SRS is possible later.
>>8157679
better than freezing your tits off...
>>8157693
>>8157697
You're the only one that got the joke so you are the only one to get a (You).
In all seriousness it would be nice to have a hot shower and cuddle with a warm guy on my bed.
>>8157706
i thought you didn't do cuddles
>>8157706
>favoritism
>>8157704
wew looking at those made me cringe
>>8157687
maybe not in my own
but i have nunchucks
>>8157702
ive been noticing flaking at the beginning and end of the day on my face recently
i tried switching back to my old moisturizer but it's been ongoing for like 2 weeks now :/
>>8157717
*smugs at you*
>>8157718
Definitely don't look at the image on the wikipedia page for "Emasculator". My curiosity got the better of me, but it wasn't worth it.
>>8157693
Save some of your seed if you are serious about castration. Never know how you might feel about later in life just saying.
now having injections delivered to home wouldn't be suspicious would it?
>>8157745
AHHHHHHH
>>8157635
A new love can be found Anon.
>>8157704
I read that humans have more blood vessels there or something than most livestock so trying to use this on yourself would be really dangerous
>mfw guy friend is trynna sext me while at a wedding with his gf and my gorgeous client is sending me qt pics and telling me he misses me
>meanwhile my bf went to bed hella early
HELP
>>8157760
just cheat on your bf
>>8157753
I fuckin TOLD you.
>>8157760
call him out! that's messed up!
>>8157751
Meybe?
>>8157745
lol poor donkey I hope they gave him pain killer
>>8157760
Isn't it obvious? Time to go lesbian and never look back.
>tfw nicole said that she'd kill me when i asked her in fuck, marry, kill
>>8157763
i couldn't do that :c but this client of mine is so fucking cute and is really into me and idk. it's always nice to feel ~desired~
>>8157766
idk what to say to the guy like
i saw him snapping pics of him and his gf at this wedding then he started sexting me and he literally said "i'm here with her but i want you"
i'm like wow great relationship
>>8157772
but women are awful lmao
>>8157782
What is the issue if he never knows
become like the rest of the girls in the world and cheat all you want
>send female faceapps pics of myself to sister
>she asks why I keep making them
>>8157791
lol
>>8157782
>>8157788
>>8157806
what
that's the best part of becoming a girl
cheating on beta bitch boys
>>8157806
i'm of the belief that if you're in a monogamous relationship and you'd rather be fucking someone else you shouldn't be in that monogamous relationship but that's just me
>>8157815
i was on 100mg i think?
i remember i took one pill in the morning and one at night
>>8157814
edie you're a good girl
>>8157826
no relationship is perfect but it's good to strive towards that :)
>>8157831
im pretty sure it was 100mg total, but i could be wrong
how much is in each spiro pill?
>>8157843
as far as I know 50mg or 100mg with 100mg being most common. When I was ramping up my dose I used 100mg pills split.
>>8157853
yeah it was probably 100mg then