Sexual Abuse

>>8140472
does it really matter? You are who you are, might as well accept it

>>8140472

I don't believe it.

t. bi MtF who's never been sexually abused

I believe there's definitely a correlation between the two.

Inb4 I'm a pansexual non-binary-queer-genedered-trans and I wasn't sexually abused

Yes I know that that's why I said correlation you faggot.

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It can interfere with your sexual development and lead to a huge range of problems psychological problems, I don't know if it can actually make you gay or trans

>mtf
>tell family member I want to be a girl as a kid
>family member takes advantages of my feelings, molests me

I know with certainty that I had trans feelings before being abused. I doubt if I would be into extreme physical pain the way I am if I wasn't abused.

>>8140472
Lots of gay people weren't abused. Lots of abused people were straight. There's a correlation, but that doesn't confirm you would have been straight otherwise, and there's nothing to do about it now. Things are just going to be gay

>>8140472
I think sexuality is determined by both genetics and also life experiences. So yes, abuse might result in someone becoming gay or bi when they may have otherwise remained straight or merely curious.

>>8140776
Well, realistically it doesn't matter anymore. Growing up and noticing that I was more inclined towards guys than girls caused me a lot of inner grief, self doubt, and I thought it meant that I liked what he did to me.
I know most of that isn't true anymore. I've accepted who I am, and I'm okay with being gay, I guess I just dislike the thought of abuse having an influence on who I do and don't find attractive.
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>>8140866
Well yeah, I'm not saying all LGBT people have a history of sexual abuse, I'm just wondering if in some cases there's a cause & effect scenario.
>>8140809
I'm sorry that happened to you, I've heard that before, how for a lot of victims, it's more of a case of "I'm gay/bi/trans, and that's why I was assaulted" rather than "I was assaulted, and that's why I'm gay/trans etc". I'm not sure if it applies to me though, I don't remember having any preference for one or the other, or a desire, before I was assaulted.
>>8140911
I know I'm just digging into shit that I'll never have an answer for, but I just wish I knew for sure.

>>8141053
I would say it's not implausible that suggest that some people, of all the billions of humans that have ever lived, might be able to legitimately credit being abused as the main underlying factor that influenced them into finding the same sex attractive when they might not have given different circumstances.

I also don't think that being gay/trans is a virus spread by pedophiles the way a lot of antigay people seem to think. A child can react to being abused any number of ways, it can lead them to promiscuity, drug use, all sorts of self destructive behavior. That in no way delegitimizes gay and trans people as a rare but normally occurring phenomenon.

>>8140472
what's that comic from?

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>>8141053
I know how you feel. In my case, I actually never had any gay thoughts until a friend tried to hook up with me in high school. I initially said no, but eventually I changed my mind since I wasn't getting laid otherwise.

It was super awkward and not really fun the first 10 times, but I kept doing it because at the very least it was interesting. Eventually it grew on me, and now I'm full blown bi.

Would my life be totally different if my friend never came on to me? What would my sexuality look like? All I can do is work with what I have now and try to be happy.

I have a shame button that always get hit when I'm thinking when my uncle raped me and thinking it is why I am trans. I don't really think iti s why, but rather is something that is calling from the void.

>>8140472
it affects people differently, and sometimes it can affect a person in seemingly contradictory ways. i'm a 22 year old cis male, and i was abused by a female babysitter (she was early to mid 20's at the time, i think) when i was about 5, so i have an idea what some go through from experience and observation.
sexuality, i believe, is not changed but certain elements of someone's naturally occurring sexual leanings are molded by one's experience. for example, someone generally submissive who is subjected to usage of force may fetishize specific things (paddles, belts, etc) so their natural masochism is directed and molded (although this isn't guaranteed, even if my idea is partly true) to conform to. had that same person been naturally aggressive, they may wish to take on the role of the person dolling out the pain. the whole purpose behind safe words is so that people can walk the edge of danger and come out perfectly fine, which gives an adrenaline rush like any extreme sports junkie gets, so i'd think the sexualization of extreme aspects could serve as a method of relief for a person with emotional trauma because they get to walk the line without crossing it, and leave with the "i'm safe and loved, everything is going to be fine" type of relief. and especially if they're submissive, low grade bisexuals may be tempted to stray from pure heterosexuality if they have a very particular fetish. trauma can't make someone lust for cock or pussy when they wouldn't have, but it can change how you perceive what is/isnt sexy and that can make a big difference in some cases.
i was beaten, left in cars under the summer sun with no AC, and imo the worst was being forcibly stripped naked and having my siblings threatened into joining her in mocking me. now, i like choking women, spanking, general degradation/manhandling, and cuckquean. i also have this weird thing about wanting approval, but never believing people who are nice to me are genuine. plus, mildly gynephobic.

>>8140472
im an 18 yr old cis girl and was abused by my male neighbor who was like 48, it traumatized the fuck outta me but i still find myself attracted to guys at times.

however I realized I was attracted to girls way before that, so i feel like it can affect people but to an extent. I still can't find myself doing anything sexual with guys though

watch mysterious skin, its an amazing film and is based around this topic

>>8140472
Pedophiles are the reason for the rise in gays

I'm cis straight and was heavily sexually abused by an older cousin for a couple months.

Was bribed with shit to keep quiet.

I only am into cis women as well.

As for why I post here, I'm a miserable sack of shit who likes to see people more miserable than himself to feel better about himself.

>>8140472
I'm a bi MTF who was raped by my brother when I was 4.
I don't think it caused my sexual orientation or gender identity most of the time, but sometimes I do wonder about it.
Although I'm like 99% sure it's made my sex drive way higher, like even with virtually no testosterone in my body I need a release every 24 hours or so.
Hell, if not for social repercussions I'd probably become a prostitute or pornstar, regardless of whether I needed that much money or not. Sex work (in a legal, well regulated environment) just sounds like an interesting job to me.

>>8141073
>That in no way delegitimizes gay and trans people as a rare but normally occurring phenomenon.
That's a good point. I know I changed when I was hurt but I'm irrationally concerned about the extent, since gay and straight are two pretty different paths in life. I guess it's not worth thinking about.
>>8141126
I dunno, I think some batman comic.
>>8141128
I suppose it you make it work for you, and own your sexuality, it doesn't matter where it came from. Thanks for sharing that with me senpai.
>>8141182
I'm sorry your uncle raped you, that's exactly how it feels for me too, like some presence that's telling me that I only like this because of x, y and z. It's a real mind fuck.
>>8141292
That babysitter was sadist ontop of being a predator, I'm sorry she treated you like that. Do you think It also works in the opposite direction too? I beaten and raped by a man when I was 11, and molested by a woman when I was 14. I'm not really attracted to older guys(35+, I'm also 22), but I'm still drawn to them, and I'm very submissive. But I can't handle rough play, or spanking or some sexual positions without involuntarily getting defencive. I've got a decent sex drive but having sex is always so nervewrecking rather than fun for me.
>>8141861
Thanks for sharing, I'm sorry what that neighbour did to you. I think I saw a good chunk of that film mysterious skin years ago, I kinda stopped at that bathtub scene, a little too close to home, but I should go back and finish it.
>>8142428
Funny, I come here for the exact same reason too. Still I'm really sorry for what your cousin did.
>>8142736
Well I suppose don't let anyone get in the way of pursuing different career paths, if it's what you really want to do.

Thanks for the responses everyone. I appreciate it since its still kind of a hard topic for me.