Online Feminism Test

>>8122747
lol nice meme.

>>8122747
traditionalism: 83%
liberal feminism: 58%
radical feminism: 13%
marxist feminism: 12%
cultural feminism: 11%
straight male (female)

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>>8122761
>traditionalism: 83%

Trent? Say it isn't so...

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>>8122747
You can't make me stop!

>>8122766
yes
i wouldn't call my gender view 'traditionalist', though
idk what the accurate term is

>>8122761
>>8122766
I'm glad it is him. I lost respect for him when I learned he was a Bernout but I feel better now.

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>>8122783
>idk what the accurate term is

I thought you don't consider yourself a feminist which is interesting in of it self, why is that by the way? Would you say you identify with "parts" of feminist ideology but feel distrustful of the movement overall due to its lack of cohesiveness?

>>8122783
>tfw never stopped berning.

>>8122805
oops meant to reply to >>8122781 as well

>>8122747
Do you realize there was literally a thread with over 310+ replies posted earlier, today?
>>8122761
I've hated Blanchard anon for a while, this just reinforces it.

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Hispanic cis gay male
:^)

>>8122822
Blanchard deniers confirmed for bluepilled.

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Reminder that traditionalist trannies are illegitimate fetishist and should be shot on sight

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>>8122747
I'm glad I'm allowed to continue my transition senpai

>>8122835
I don't deny Blanchard, I just dislike Blanchard anon in general, this just adds to it.

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>>8122841
Wow, if it isn't my least favorite tripfag, Franzi, not a surprising result coming from you.

>>8122853
You are my favorite anon tho. Lil one

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oh no i may be scum

mtf, hetero (male-attracted)

>>8122845
But why then?

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if liberal feminism isn't your highest you need to take a long hard look at yourself

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Not sure what to think
Mtf gay

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Largely straight white male

>>8122925
Ftm* oops

>>8122925
>>8122930
how can someone forget which way they're transitioning?!

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>>8122921
I'm glad I get your approval.

>>8122941
I just confused the letters mate :((

>>8122955
... KEYS*?

>>8122781
also sorry if I unintentionally #triggered you by saying I was surprised you don't identify as a feminist, it's mostly because I get extremely confused by people on this board that simultaneously identify / advocate for transgender related causes while also distancing / rejecting most feminist ideology. It seems like an incompatible / contradictory worldview.

>>8122988
>advocating for the people who most suffer from their lack of female privilege
>incompatible with female chauvinism

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We must seize the means of production comrades!

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lesbian reporting

>>8123018
Nb male also

>>8122766
>>8122771
>>8122832
>>8123018
>>8123022

gas chamber

>>8122841
>>8122887
>>8122921
>>8122929
>>8122952

good fags

>>8122921
>>8122925

contaminated

>>8123030
>"feminism" (which is obviously actually just disguised misandry)
QFT

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>>8122766
Needs re-education.

>>8122841
>>8122887
>>8122921
>>8122925
>>8122952
>>8123141
Perfectly acceptable, tho you need to study history better.
The Patriarchy is a thing that was a huge in the past, still kind of is in some ways.


>>8122929
>>8123022
>>8122771
>>8122832
Send to Middle East.

Now mine.

Come at me?

>>8123145
>Needs re-education.

why

>tfw you are 48% traditionalist / 56% marxist

kek

>>8123145
When you have those score you're no one to be criticizing people, honey.

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MtF, bi.
Not sure why I got so much in traditionalism.

>>8123145
Why should real feminists be sent to the MidEast?

>>8123151
Hons pls.
I am all about equality and liberation that isn't represented by sex, gender, etc.
Please go back to drinking at 11pm in a dark, dingy bar as to hide your beard shadow whilst lurking to find the one guy who looks like your father and is too drunk to notice that you're a transvestite role player.

>>8123150
I didn't answer at least 10 question because they were stated in such a way that it was inherently geared towards bias.

I don't have a firm grasp of what Marxist Feminism is, outside of acknowledging the historical validity that the patriarchal system at one time. Was a thing, and did control/run woman life.
That's a fact that is backed by historical evidence in books, music, and political documentation.

The best scares are Liberal Feminism and Cultural Feminism.

>>8123154
So they can experience a real system of oppression that is run by a dictatorial Patriarchy.

>>8122747
83% 50% 8% 8% 8%
no surprise to me it just sounded like a bunch of bs
mtf straight

>>8123158
>I am all about equality and liberation that isn't represented by sex, gender, etc.
What?

>>8122837
>fetishist for thinking that men and women are equal and that the west achieved that long ago
id rather be shot than be you then

>>8123167
Get back to me when you understand.

>>8123158
>I am all about equality and liberation that isn't represented by sex, gender, etc.
im glad the west has that

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Getted

>>8123158
> scares
>Liberal Feminism
>Cultural Feminism

How?

I agree I don't really know why / how I scored so high on cultural feminism, you got me there, maybe I could consider that being a somewhat useful way of describing my views but possibly not in the contexts of what you are thinking.

>>8123174
Very good, but you're probably a bit of delusional hypocrite.

>>8123170
Aren't you basically saying you don't care about women's liberation?

>>8123179
what about those scores makes you a hypocrite because i had similar

>>8123169
How exactly are you both a traditionalist and think men and women are equal?

>>8123174
What is liberal feminism supposed to mean? Why do basically all the people who score high on traditionalism also score high on this one? How are the two related?

>>8123180
Swing and a miss.

>>8123178
I'm open to listening.

I find that I'm more a human rights activist then a "menist or feminist".

I find that anything beyond 2nd wave feminism to a be a fucking joke.

>>8123185
I find traditional liberal feminism to be conservative and hypocritical.
Because the statue of beliefs is heavily muddled with Christianity and thusly, womans roles are to;
I. Serve as only the nurturer of the household
II. Abide by husbands final ruling on any matter.
III. Support antiquated woman's rights ideas that don't usually benefit anyone outside of cis-female rights and reproductive rights.

>>8123193
i just answered them giving me traditionalist when my beliefs the men and women are equal and have been might say more about thetest makes than it does me

Most of these "questions" are shit, tho.

They are like "Because of A, do you think that B?"

How am I supposed to answer this if I don't even think A is true in the first place?

>>8123200
>I. Serve as only the nurturer of the household
i have not seen many people say this is their only role and even if you look in history its never been that in america
>II. Abide by husbands final ruling on any matter.
i dont even know what you mean by this women dont have to and haven't had to
>III. Support antiquated woman's rights ideas that don't usually benefit anyone outside of cis-female rights and reproductive rights.
please explain what these are

>>8123213
because i got those two scores and their definition on conservatism seems pretty bad like it lumps different things in together and misrepresents them

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>>8123217
>I. Serve as only the nurturer of the household
i have not seen many people say this is their only role and even if you look in history its never been that in america
<<It has been. All you have to do is look at woman's station from the past 500 years. Excluding anything beyond the Suffrage movement.

>II. Abide by husbands final ruling on any matter.
i dont even know what you mean by this women dont have to and haven't had to.
<<The 1910's was the Suffrage, the 1920's was the Roaring 20's where woman began to become bold with their dress and bodies. The 30/40's were the era of "Woman in the Workplace" while men where away at war. the 60 where the hippie age and that was a golden age for everybody.
Before that, Woman were below station and men had the final say (husbands, fathers, rulers, higher people of station -always men-)

>III. Support antiquated woman's rights ideas that don't usually benefit anyone outside of cis-female rights and reproductive rights.
please explain what these are
<<Natural Biological sex rights (Rights to see a gynecologist, rights to use the woman's rest room, the right to female dress and mannerism without violence) and The right to abort, the right to litigate biological fathers, child support, etc

This falls heavily into TG/TS rights which isn't Traditional Feminism and is hated in Radical Feminism.

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>>8122747
>Lesbian tranny scum.

I always thought about Liberal Feminism as "the real one", I think that any ideology that puts one sex over the other is stupid, everyone should be able to do everything equally regardless of their sex.

First of all, the test is shit because it doesn't tell you whether you should say 'agree' or 'disagree' when a statement contains a premise that you believe to be false but if the premise were true you would agree to it.

E.g.
>hypocritical of western feminists to blame western men for minor things when middle eastern women suffer
This is the kind of thing an MRA usually says when he's trying to minimize an issue that is *not* a small issue. It also implies that the hypocricy in question is a common and widespread one, which I may or may not agree with... (Liberal/queer feminist supporters can be dumb as shit, but an MRA will claim the same thing about a radfem criticizing prostitution.)

I'll respond how I would in a real-life situation, assuming that the statement in question is coming from an MRA and contains a false premise, but maybe that'll tag me as a liberal feminist, who knows. Results won't be reliable.

>>8123729
Agreed, that's a real problem with the test.

I had that issue with the same question. It's the kind of thing an MRA would say to point out that actual oppression of women doesn't happen in the West, that complaints by feminists about made-up Western issues are minor, and that feminists obviously don't really care about women at all. All of which are true, obviously, but it's not *hypocritical* of feminists. If some particular feminists pretend to care about the third-world women they don't care about, then yes that's clearly dishonest, but most feminists don't. It's not actually hypocritical.

So how can I answer the question?

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Female
FTM
Heterosexual

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Hue hue hue. I like this result.

Guess who I am.

>>8122837
I'll enjoy shoveling you back to the oven when the time comes, kike.

>>8123751
cara?

>>8123753
Right-wing trannies are disproportionately Jewish compared to trannies in general.

>>8123756
Wrong.

Also after reading their description of Cultural Feminism I'm actually surprised it gave me a high score on that. I thought Cultural Feminism was some sort of spin-off of Radical/Marxist feminism.

I guess this is another problem in the test: in many questions my answer was apparently interpreted to mean that I think women are *inherently* less violent than men, whereas I think this is to a large degree a result of men's socialization into glorification of violence.

What I don't get is that I'm an anti feminist but I still scored on some of these things?

>>8123765
You can't be Jewish and right wing since right wing implies anti-semetism.

>>8123767
>>8123779
The test interprets a lot of questions wrongly. If you disagree with "the gender pay gap is a myth, women are paid equal" because you are aware that women get paid more than men due to sexism, it counts that as a feminist answer.

>>8123792
t. left-wing "anti-Zionist"

>>8123779
It's retarded. For example there's a question "Do you think sexbots dehumanize women?" or something and I answered yes, but I consider that to be a good thing.

>>8123799
t. Baruch Goldbaum

>>8123792
t. Right leaning, transgender jew.

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>>8123779
MRAs pumped you full with straw-feminist arguments that you oppose so you thought you're anti-feminist when really the real ideals of feminism make sense to you.

>>8123796
>because you are aware that women get paid more than men due to sexism
>women get paid more
IDIOT ALERT. IDIOT ALERT.

>>8123804
>Right leaning
Yep

>transgender
Nope

>jew
Nope

>>8123811
What makes you say that?

>>8123805
>posts chart with literally zero controls
>IDIOT ALERT. IDIOT ALERT.
Right backatcha.

>>8123805
Have you even heard why the wage gap is a false study? Or do you just ignore any opposing opinion that hard?

>>8123805
Now control for the same work. Of course nail salon attendants will earn less than engineers.

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>a study (2000) conducted by economic experts Claudia Goldin from Harvard University and Cecilia Rouse from Princeton University shows that when evaluators of applicants could see the applicant's gender they were more likely to select men. When the applicants gender could not be observed, the number of women hired significantly increased

>In an audit study, matched pairs of male and female pseudo-job seekers were given identical résumés and sent to apply for jobs as waiters and waitresses at the same set of restaurants. In high priced restaurants, a female applicant's probability of getting an interview was 35 percentage points lower than a male's and her probability of getting a job offer was 40 percentage points lower.

>Stanford University professor Shelley Correll and colleagues (2007) sent out more than 1,200 fictitious résumés to employers in a large Northeastern city, and found that female applicants with children were significantly less likely to get hired and if hired would be paid a lower salary than male applicants with children. This despite the fact that the qualification, workplace performances and other relevant characteristics of the fictitious job applicants were held constant and only their parental status varied. Mothers were penalized on a host of measures, including perceived competence and recommended starting salary. Men were not penalized for, and sometimes benefited from, being a parent. In a subsequent audit study, Correll et al. found that actual employers discriminate against mothers when making evaluations that affect hiring, promotion, and salary decisions, but not against fathers.

>>8123824
>Claudia Goldin, Cecilia Rouse, Shelley Correll
In unrelated news, Seamus O'Flaherty and Dylan O'Connor discovered that the Irish are the master race.

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>David R. Hekman and colleagues found that men receive significantly higher customer satisfaction scores than equally well-performing women. Customers who viewed videos featuring a female and a male actor playing the role of an employee helping a customer were 19% more satisfied with the male employee's performance and also were more satisfied with the store's cleanliness and appearance although the actors performed identically, read the same script, and were in exactly the same location with identical camera angles and lighting. In a second study, they found that male doctors were rated as more approachable and competent than equally well performing female doctors.

>Research finds that work by men is often subjectively seen as higher-quality than objectively equal or better work by women compared to how an actual scientific review panel measured scientific competence when deciding on research grants. The results showed that women scientists needed to be at least twice as accomplished as their male counterparts to receive equal credit and that among grant applicants men have statistically significant greater odds of receiving grants than equally qualified women.

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>>8123832
>scientific evidence of discrimination against women is only valid when the research is done by men
Ever heard of peer-review?

>>8123814
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>>8123819
>it's a "/tttt/ BTFO's another feminist" episode
I mean they were fun and all but after 14 seasons you can usually see the same plots being reused episode after episode.

>>8123845
>peer reviewing SOCIAL STUDIES
>anything but a series of virtue signaling

>>8123824
So why do feminist talk about the wage gap but I never hear about this? The wage gap study has not been done correctly so it is false unless proven in a new study based on particular jobs.
The "hiring gap" is a problem I could get behind because the studies you present make sense. But just like feminist don't see a point in focusing on men's right because they are "feminist", I don't see a point in focusing on women's rights as a MRA , because feminists have that covered.

>>8123817
There is a wage gap but it isnt as large as feminists want you to believe.

>Based on more than 505,000 salaries shared by full-time U.S. employees on Glassdoor, men earn 24.1 percent higher base pay than women on average. In other words, women earn about 76 cents per dollar men earn. However, comparing workers with similar age, education and years of experience shrinks that gap to 19.2 percent. Further, comparing workers with the same job title, employer and location, the gender pay gap in the U.S. falls to 5.4 percent (94.6 cents per dollar).

https://www.glassdoor.com/research/studies/gender-pay-gap/

>>8123854
Has it been taken into consideration of unpaid leave, total hours put in, and maternity leave? Also has the company faced legal actions or has someone filed anything with the courts?

>>8123854
>when you control for sexism, suddenly sexism has no effect anymore!
Lé shock!

Let's take this apart.
>comparing workers with similar age, education and years of experience
Could it be that women entering STEM fields less due to perceived gender roles has something to do with the education variable?

>Studies by Michael Conway et al., David Wagner and Joseph Berger, John Williams and Deborah Best, and Susan Fiske et al. found widely shared cultural beliefs that men are more socially valued and more competent than women at most things, as well as specific assumptions that men are better at some particular tasks (e.g., math, mechanical tasks) while women are better at others (e.g., nurturing tasks).

Could it be that the expectation to mother children decreases the amount of years a woman tends to be active in a given job? (See above for studies proving penalization of mothers.)

>Further, comparing workers with the same job title, employer and location
Men are given higher job titles and employed by "higher-class" employers (see restaurant waitress/waiter employment study above) is also due to sexism.

>>8123869
Maybe women are just stupid?

>>8123866
If you read the study you see what is takes into factors in.

>>8123869
Wew, you make it sound like women can't think for themselves and make independent decisions.

You are pretty sexist.

Women are inferior workers.

/thread

>>8123884
They're inferior yet superior in a way, completely Machiavellian-Dionysian master morality sociopathic evil.

>>8123880
It doesn't mention anything about hours or leave. Equal wages is a legal matter. Earning are going to differ depending on many factors. Study only discusses earnings.

>>8123888
Men being massive manginas doesn't make women evil masterminds.

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>>8123877
>>8123884
>>8123888
>>8123910
>I have no actual argument or evidence for my claims but let's just continue shitposting because why the hell not!

>>8123880
>if your decisions in life are in any way affected by the social conditioning that you've been put through starting literally at your birth, it means you can't think for yourself!
I bet you read Ayn Rand.

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>there are still people who dont believe in the total spiritual and physical mobilisation if the european peoples
Disgusting
https://youtu.be/q7vbi6c6ePQ
Gay european 18

>>8124176
*yawns*

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>>8124187
Good argument you faggot really made me think
https://youtu.be/sle1E9QgHNE

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shit

>>8124140
>I have no actual argument or evidence for my claims but let's just continue shitposting because why the hell not!
t. TER'F' who gets non-stop buttblasted by /lgbt/ and can never back up his feminist myths

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im curious what marxist feminism actual entails because im by all means a communist and being a communist inherently means youre a feminist due to the fact that one of the key aspects of communism is supporting and helping all those who are oppressed in the minority. By marxist feminism do they mean government control of economic means, being a leftist and a feminist (which as i explained earlier being a far leftist inherently means being a feminist) or do they mean an authoritarian outlook on social politics because if its the latter, theyre using marxist incorrectly. It could also be that the test is just bullshit and who ever made it doesnt know what any of those things are. Its probably the bullshit thing and im just looking too deep into it...Also, im a straight male.

>>8124335
>didnt scroll down to see the websites definitions
im dumb
also, this, "have changed their focus from economic issues to cultural ones, placing more of an emphasis on the fight for social justice than the fight to topple capitalism." anyone who believes that isnt really a marxist because part of marxism is that once the government is transformed from socialism to communism, theres no longer any bias because it died out through the generations.

>>8124243
>who gets non-stop buttblasted by /lgbt/ and can never back up his feminist myths
In pretty much every encounter, it ends up being the other side that can't back up their claims with studies.

Just like this one.

You must be suffering under some serious cognitive dissonance from having your MRA ass blasted one time too many.

>>8124381
>You must be suffering under some serious cognitive dissonance from having your MRA ass blasted one time too many.
Not an argument.

>>8124393
Nor was it meant to be one. I'm just exposing your butt-blasted idiocy for everyone to see.

I bet you're the same anon who's doing the same thing in other threads right now, responding to my posts with shitposting then saying "WHY AREN'T YOU ARGUING BACK HUH??" when I otherwise ignore you.

Make one coherent statement and back it up with evidence or rational reasoning. I'm waiting.

>>8124413
Calm your tits faggot.

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>>8124443
>I have no evidence or rational reasoning to deliver
>better hurl insults at him

>>8124205
Why in the world would I want someone like you on my team, though?

>>8124358
yeah the whole test was clearly written by someone who is very right wing.

>>8124590
bite me

Not really sure what to make of this. What the hell does "Marxist feminism" even mean?

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Cis white straight male with sociology as major.

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>>8122747
>smug_pepe.gif

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male
gay

women are dumb (culturally) and must be emancipated from men and themselves

"feminist" women who get married and have children disgust me

>>8124335
>one of the key aspects of communism is supporting and helping all those who are oppressed in the minority
what kind of reformist crap is this

kulaks to the gulag

>>8125587
>be gay
>still manage to be a cu ck

>>8124335
this test is pretty garbage, but i assume it means something like anti-liberal-feminism, i.e. the belief that having a few female CEOs isn't really meaningful at all because 'progress' made only within the system or for (likely rich and/or white) individuals does nothing to emancipate women as a whole.

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white gay cis male

liberal feminism is the only one of these that even matters.

radicalism of any kind is cancer
culture can't be mandated or legislated
marxists should be gassed

>>8124916
Idk
We arent a team bud, were completely different people, we just both happen to like dicks, and apparently you decided you also need to bend over to shitskins

>>8125528
>"Cis" white straight male with sociology as major.
>supports liberal faux-feminism

I bet you yell "die TERF scum" at women.
Literally as bad as an alt-right neo-Nazi if you do so.

>>8125774
>Literally as bad as an alt-right neo-Nazi
>if you do so.
He's a feminist. He's worse whatever his take on TERFs.

>>8125797
A liberal "feminist" is not a feminist. Lrn2feminism.
http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/04/19/interview-meghan-murphy-liberal-backlash-feminism/

>>8125880
>Philosemitic "nazism" isn't nazism

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All of them are way higher than I expected desu.

>>8125961
Oh
>straight, cis female

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>>8122747
femboi
bi

>>8125610
it's okay, anon, I think we can just concede that modern 'marxist feminist' inclined individuals don't literally want gulags. don't worry.

>>8125655
>radicalism of any kind is cancer
okay, nice
>marxists should be gassed
oh no

>>8125774
>nazis
>bad
Die TERF scum

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transwoman, bisexual

>>8125587
What do you mean being emancipated from themselves?

>>8125655
fuck off right wing fag
>>8125774
true feminist are the ones on the right of this test

>>8126063
I thought fembois were all women-haters?

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>>8122747
I dunno why that Commie shit is so high. I responded negatively to every SJW question.

>MtF
>bi

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Gay Agorist Anarchist here!

>>8122747
holy shit OP is that my test result from the other thread? lol

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Closeted MTF
I like girls

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>>8126413
I know what you mean, I don't know where my inner commie came from, we're fairly similar

Irish male, Gay

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>>8126034

twas a joke friendo.

but seriously though marxism isn't a joke and its ideas run counter to a society based on personal liberty and the rights of the individual and to use said rights to advocate an ideology that runs opposite to said rights is a hypocritical stance that i encourage people not to advocate.

>>8126285

i'm a liberal.

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FtM trans. Lesbian.

>>8127561
MtF* not FtM lol brain fart

>>8127375
>Traditionalism at 69%
>I'm a liberal

K

>>8122747
Traditionalism: 21%
Liberal feminism: 62%
Radical feminism: 68%
Marxist feminism: 79%
Cultural feminism: 69%
Straight MtF

>>8124205
You didn't say anything worth refuting you braindead monkey. So shut right the fuck up.

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gay ftm here

I basically got all equal (cultural feminism a bit higher) because this test fails to account for people who think we should eliminate men entirely through the use of technology.

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>>8122761
Trent, this is commie-chan here, I think we need to talk.

>>8127709
lol
also gay ftm and this is me >>8125538

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str8 ftm reporting in

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>>8122747

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bi ftm

>>8127582

>men and women have inborn biological differences
>men and women are more suited towards different tasks

these are in no way conservative stances yet
this tests thinks they are. the fact that i am actually a liberal and got such a high traditionalist score shows how fucked this test is.

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>>8125610
Oops I'm sorry I should have been more clear, when I said communism, I really meant Marxism. Obviously that doesn't refer to the revolution betraying Stalinists. Stalin spat upon the Revolution and all the impossible feats of the Bolsheviks that ensued soon after. You are a disgrace to the revolution, the Soviet state, the republic, and Vladimir Ulyanovs legacy.

Understand that despite my feelings regarding Stalin and his betrayal of the republic, I still acknowledge the amazing accomplishments Stalin managed. The five year plan that jumped the Soviets to the same level of production as the other world powers, the siege of Berlin and the entire patriotic war itself, managing to keep the economy out of a recession for the entire length of his control (despite during WW2) something that no other nation in history has EVER accomplished, all amazing accomplishments. Now what I disagree with is falling into the trap of an arms race with a nation that had the economic advantages of imperialism and had over a hundred more years worth of commerce than his, denouncing his peers to gain political power, sending three assassins after one of said peers despite them fleeing across the world, allying with the nazis and acting like it never happened once they back stabbed him, etc etc.

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>>8122952
if don't get tradition/liberalism you are a hon

>>8124335
> im curious what marxist feminism actual entails
I think it means viewing the oppression of women through the prism of class struggle and the negative effects of capitalist society.
> one of the key aspects of communism is supporting and helping all those who are oppressed in the minority
By oppressing the people who used to benefit(even a little bit) from a capitalist society, from prosperous peasants to intellectuals. It really only serves the interests of poor workers.
>>8129287
Agree with you on Stalin though. He fucked things up and turned a flawed, yet promising state into a run of the mill totalitarian regime. Also, can't forgive his criminalization of homosexuality and homophobic policies.
> I still acknowledge the amazing accomplishments Stalin managed. The five year plan that jumped the Soviets to the same level of production as the other world powers, the siege of Berlin and the entire patriotic war itself, managing to keep the economy out of a recession for the entire length of his control (despite during WW2) something that no other nation in history has EVER accomplished, all amazing accomplishments.
All of that was built on the blood of the Soviet people though. I doubt industrialization and modernization would've been as effective without the extensive use of forced labor and extremely cruel policies with no concern for the well-being of the people.
> falling into the trap of an arms race with a nation that had the economic advantages of imperialism
Don't you think post-WW2 USSR had some trait of imperialism when it came to its relationships with the Warsaw Pact countries and some later socialist(or should I say, stalinist?) countries?

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>amab woman
>bi

>>8129143
Those actually are "traditional" answers you dillweed

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Gay male

Was in the army. Women shouldn't be in the infantry. In my 4 years I've seen a total of 3 women shoot above a 25.

>>8130210
that's not a controversial opinion at all. get less progfascist friends

>>8130210
What about all your other traditional answers, what were those?

>>8130220
I ain't a fascist

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>>8122747
Guess.

>>8130227
>only 2 genders
>I strongly don't believe that women have the same sense of duty and honor as men
>I don't believe women are as rational as men
>I don't believe the media has any more sway than biology when informing attraction
>I don't believe in raising children to be gender neutral
>the muslim questions
>I don't believe porn or prostitution should be illegal
>any question pertaining to patriarchy, rape culture, fat acceptance. I disagree with
>I disagree with quotas and state enforced split of parental leave
>I believe the struggle for equality has been achieved, which I do believe is one of the hallmarks western culture

>>8130238
Bi mtf.

>>8130238
gay cis male

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Some of those statements were so fucking retarded... In my opinion, men are against muslims to PROTECT women (not to distract them from being oppressed like that retarded statement said), and it IS possible to be sexist towards men.
Anyways, I'm mtf.

>>8130318
>In my opinion, men are against muslims to PROTECT women

Female protectionism is a traditionalist viewpoint tho

>>8130321
Makes sense. I did score 61% for traditionalism after all.

>>8130321
Great, so five out of five scores are how much female privilege women should get.

>>8130342
Yeah, in traditionalism they have the same privileges as household pets, in liberal feminism they have the same privileges as every other slave to capitalism, in radical feminism they have privilege over every other living human, in Marxist feminism they have the same privileges as every other slave to the state, and in cultural feminism.... Idk, I guess they howl to the blood moon or something.

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fight me

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>>8122747
MtF, straightish

>>8130350
>in traditionalism they have the same privileges as household pets,
Pets aren't valued above human life.

>in liberal feminism they have the same privileges as every other slave to capitalism,
I don't doubt women aren't privileged above men under "liberal" feminism too, but the test doesn't show how it scores answers.

>>8130657
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_for_Independence
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/kezia-dugdale-labour-msps-free-to-back-end-of-uk-1-3893046

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>>8130686
don't think this will affect it though? a lot of the difference scots experience from the rest of the uk i think has to do with stuff like this (pic related). in short, i think the rest of the uk seems too conservative to them.

showing otherwise will help. the conservatives have gained some sweeping victories lately, but clinging to power any longer will just mean strife between uk demographics. i think scots and the more disaffected brit groups might want to be reminded that, yeah, it is at least physically possible for their voices to be heard.

desu the stuff you're linking would prob be encouraging (in a pro-union sense) to wavering scot-separatists.

https://imgur.com/a/k4XL9

20/M/Cis/Bi

none of those descriptions fit me.

>>8125528

>not majoring in Anthropology

where in life did you make the wrong choice?

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queer, male, greek (we don't use labels like PoC or white in europe so i dunno which "race" would be appropriate)

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I don't like being called traditionalist just because I accept biological facts.

>>8130874
which are??

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>>8130874
I don't get where all those traditionalist points came from. Maybe because I was neutral on a lot of things?

>>8130925
whoops not meant for >>8130874

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Gay ftm
That marxist score makes me feel dirty somehow, but at least it's better than getting high a radical fem percentage

>>8123199
Liberalism isn't actually that far removed from Traditionalism. Which is why Traditionalist movement pull recruits from Liberal populations.

Once you accept any sort of racial or gender essentialism, which most liberals do even if they do not realize it, it's very easy to then accept strictly and brutally regulating the behavior of races and genders.

All Traditionalists have to do is play on the contradictions of Liberal Ideology; IE, that different genders and races have immutable natures dictating their behavior but that they should have equal rights.

The test is shit. I scored mostly Liberal and Marixist, but there where no questions at all about property of relations to means of production, nor about market relations.

I also scored pretty high on RadFem despite fucking hating it, so...

>>8129947

they're also referred to as "facts"

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Phew.

>cultural feminism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50FbeazFkgs
wew.
the first sentences/perceived problems of radical and marxist feminism are basically true but the solutions are insane

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I honestly don't know what half those labels mean, and found the test kinda nuanced in it's approach.
But basically, 'treat both sexes the same, don't censor shit, and there's probably more to [islamophobia/Some other thing I can't remember] than just sexism'.

Also male/bi.

>>8134445
>treat both sexes the same
Hard to believe you got such a Feminist answer with that view.

Could be a consequence of the test being bad.

>>8134493
I dunno. Some of the questions were pretty 'eh'.

"If a feminist doesn't play video games then she shouldn't be able to criticize them".

I'll agree some radical feminists can read into it too much, but it doesn't take a pro to see there's an obvious difference between armor in rpgs and shit.

>>8131850
Racial essentialism is bullshit, though. Gender essentialism actually makes sense but the human population is so big and diverse that trying to group people into four our five races and say they all share intrinsic qualities is dumb.

>>8134493
that's literally the definition of non-meme feminism though

>>8134574
Somebody should tell feminists that.

>>8134574
Eh. Pretty much, but the few crazies are obnoxiously loud, and paraded everywhere by anti-feminists that want to make it bigger than it actually is, so I can understand the confusion.

>>8134445
Hmmm, I like this new namefag.

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Male bi agp

>>8134655
>the few crazies
Show me one feminist who supports equality when it doesn't benefit women.

Literally just one.

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attractive white cis hetero male in the medical field

>>8134728
I mean, I don't really have them on speed dial, or anything. If you're talking celebrities, most of the ones I see, Ellen Page, Emma Watson, Carrie Fisher, etc., seem pretty good about it, but if we're talking on average, I've yet to meet a feminist irl (as in not in a comment section or on tumblr, but in the flesh actuvely being a part of society) that isn't for both sides, just being equal. Their focus is obviously going to lean towards women's issues, but in general they very much seem to agree that both sides suffer due to sexism.

I'm not really sure how to prove that aside from literally bringing them over to you.

>>8134820
>seem pretty good about it,
That's not showing me one.

>that isn't for both sides, just being equal.
That's still not showing me one.

>I'm not really sure how to prove that
By finding a single quote of a feminist supporting equality when it's not to women's advantage.

>>8134730
>attractive
sure thing, bud

>>8134843
Oh! Ok, yeah, I can do that.

https://youtu.be/EC8iayukJuY

There's actually plenty of equally inclusive (and interesting) ted talks in the related if you wanna check those out too.

>>8134891
Quote the relevant parts.

>>8134900
Shall I feed you by spoon as well?

>>8135153
I'm not wasting an hour of my time to let myself guess at which single sentence you find it too difficult to type.

>implying there is any such sentence
>implying "waste hours of your time watching/reading this" isn't the classic feminist response to being unable to back their lies up
>implying the fact that writing a single sentence quote is so difficult for you isn't all the proof needed to tell me I was absolutely right not to be sucker enough to fall for your wild goose chase

>>8135190
I mean, anon, come on. I thought we'd built a relationship of trust at this point. If literally the title isn't enough to sway you that the focus of the entire video is gonna be on that, I feel like you're not actually open to information and just wanna argue for no reason.

I want to help you anon, I do, but I can't force you to want to learn. Help me help you help me help all of us.

>>8135304
Too late to pull the trust card, your reaction has already proven my distrust was absolutely correct.

I asked for a single quote. You gave evasion and trickery.

If you can't take an hour out of your own day to watch your own video and prove your point, I certainly can't.

If you want to help me, find me that quote. I'm waiting.

>>8135327
Though I'm flattered, I think you're overestimating just how much I care, anon.

You want it, it's there. I'm out.

>>8135347
I asked for a single quote. You resort to trickery, evasion and dishonesty. You don't deliver. You can't deliver. It's not out there.

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straight ftm

>>8135327
>You gave evasion and trickery.
>>8135398
>You resort to trickery, evasion and dishonesty.

are you a dark and gritty children's cartoon villain, by any chance?

>>8130210
>Women shouldn't be in the infantry.
Neither should gays you fucking faggot

>>8135433
I sorta more pictured some anime character with oddly placed lighting on their glasses.

>>8135433
>>8135466
I ask for a single quote showing that feminists are not the sexists they are.

No such quote exists.

>>8135631
Man, I'm gonna feel really shitty if it turns out you're autistic or some shit.

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Male Asexual

>>8135639
>I want to help you!
>that's why I'll call you autistic instead of typing a single simple sentence I don't even have to think of myself

You have helped me in one way though. You've shown feminists to be exactly what I knew they were.

>>8135691
Dude, I'm high as shit and trying to figure out what the fuck is going on in this new Gatchaman series. Though I'm fairly sure you're trolling at this point, can you even possibly imagine the amount of fucks I'd have to give to sit through a video just to satisfy some stranger about shit he could basically just Google? Because I'm pretty sure if I could, I wouldn't be wondering wtf Crowds has to do with the old G-Force series. Do these people even know what birds are?

>>8135738
>>8135691
don't even worry about this guy, he posts the same exact thing every single time he reads the word 'feminism' just to rope people into thread-long arguments

>>8135765
I figured. At this point I'm just having fun though. (Actually the ending theme to this is kinda dope)

>>8135738
>can you even possibly imagine the amount of fucks I'd have to give to sit through a video
Called it.

Lies from the very start.

And you lectured me on trust.

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>>8122747
MTF and Bi.
I'm on the fence for a lot of shit hence why most of this shit floats around 50% ish.

>>8135807
Oh. Ohno. How will I go on now that you, anon, have lost your faith in me.
What possible repercussions could I have in my successful career?
Will I ever be able to look myself in the mirror again, nay, to look anyone in the face again?
Today is a truly tragic day. The day anon's heart was broken by a flock of angry geese.

>>8135851
I never had faith in you. Because I know exactly what feminists are.

This is why that quote does not exist.

>>8135860
i'm a feminist and i think men and women should have equal rights

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>>8135851
>>8135777
>>8135738
ily geeseanon

>>8135869
That's not true.

Find the quote.

>>8135894
"I think men and women should have equal rights"
-me 4/17/17

>>8135904
but today's the 18th

>>8135860
Shhh. Babe, come on, that was a perfect ending. No need to ruin it with a needless coda.

>>8135911
ya i said it yesterday

>>8135904
Put in some effort.

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>>8135891

>>8135924
y

>>8135933
Because you want to prove that feminism isn't the sexist movement that it is.

You won't because you can't.

>>8136066
Forgot to say, Straight White Male here, btw

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>>8122747
Ew Marxism
Cis (Mostly) gay male

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>>8122921
Thank God I'm not alone in that. Thinking equal and free shouldn't be that hard for everyone.

T. CIS gay male

>>8135933
>>8135966
>>8136066
>>8136077
checked
>>8135966
to say a feminist has never just called for equality is a ridiculous claim, it's just bound to have happened, but sure a lot of feminism is sexist im glad we've come to and agreement

>>8136183
>it's just bound to have happened,
Yet no one ever happens to have witnessed it.

>>8122747
82% traditionalism lol

>>8123030
>Yeah obviously if you are going to pick out / focus on the toxic / nonsensical parts of what people constitute as "feminism"
You're talking about literally all of feminism. It's not "picking out" when it's every last one.

>I guess it makes somewhat sense why people openly reject it while still holding some views i would consider feminist leaning.
You are rationalizing the fact that actual egalitarians are not feminists.

>Up until recent history though in a western context wouldn't you consider this necessary / logical for feminism to be "woman centric" considering the contexts of how historically women have been treated / viewed as the lesser sex for pretty much the entirety of human history?
Women have always been privileged above men throughout history.

An egalitarian movement could be woman centric regardless of historical context. Feminism has never been that movement.

>Would you be happier with feminist ideology if you felt it to be more egalitarian in nature then rather than overly catering to mostly white cis women?
A movement can cater to any group of people without attempting to privilege them above others. Feminism has never been such a movement.

>>8135459
>being this butthurt
When women learn how to shoot better, stop pawning off weapon cleaning to men and don't lower the combat effectiveness of a squad by 40%, women can be in the infantry.

>>8122747

76% liberal feminism

though, I wouldnt consider myself a modern feminist in the slightest, they bitch about the most mundane shit

It's hard to distinguish between one and a sjw now days

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M A X I M U M
D E G E N E R A C Y

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r8 me

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MtF Trans

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>>8122747
This came out worse than I expected, since I don't consider myself a liberal feminist.

>>8137041
Forgot to mention, MtF bisexual

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>>8136268
Why did you reply to my comment long after I deleted it?

>Women have always been privileged above men throughout history.

k e k, I'm pretty sure there is nothing for us to discuss if you hold opinions like that friend.

>>8123145
Your subpixel font rendering is so ass. What shit OS are you running?

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Biscum male. Expected more traditionalism, but whatever.

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Mtf tranny here

>>8123852
It's assumed that this extends into promotion as well as negotiable pay. While it's illegal to discriminate, in practice *proving* discrimination is damn near impossible.

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>>8122747
equality under the law biological differences can't be reconciled without distopian measures

>>8122747
traditionalism: 56%
liberal feminism: 70%
radical feminism: 27%
marxist feminism: 37%
cultural feminism: 30%
mtf tgirl, pan

>>8136889
i love how high your marxist feminism is, fucking commie. [no spoiler on lgbt] but you're actually my bro[/spoiler]

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>>8122747
yay I'm not autistic (mtf)

>>8122747
>tfw will never kiss a mtf tradionalist

>>8127952
You can't be a straight male and support feminism faggot.

>>8143525
Anyone can be a retard.

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Straight male. French.

>>8122837
>fetishist for thinking men and women are different
>someone fetishizing the concept of gender so much as to make that an entire social argument in order to satisfy the emptiness in themselfs
I see you guys are firm on destroying another word definiton like fetish.
Are you going to take all the vocals and change their meaning too or are you just focused on the ''impactful'' academic words?

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>>8125528
nu-male detected

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>>8140733
EXACTLY this

I feel the need to mention I am mtf

>>8145422
Cool manpurse tbqh

what's with all the traditionalist anti-feminist mtfs like >>8145664

>>8149435
>anti-feminist
this seems to imply that i hate women but I really don't, I just think that equality has, for all intents and purposes, been achieved and any more ""struggle"" for "rights" is just whining for the sake of whining.

>>8145664
Why did you feel the need to mention you are an uncle tom?

>>8150999
And apparently an MRA.

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Hitler was right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

>>8151024
>MRA
>Men's rights activist
I don't get it. I never once said anything about men needing more rights. I just said that men and women are already equal.
>an uncle tom
oh, so it's a bait post

>>8151152
>I never once said anything about men needing more rights.
MRAs only want men to have equal rights.

>>8151211
prove it.

>>8151211
I don't WANT that, it already exists.

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>>8122747
Well lookie there!
>Bisexual Cis Male

>>8151294
You have no idea of the issues they campaign over?

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mtf bisexual

>tfw you were a filthy Commie all along

/cisles/

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>>8151518

Brb, killing myself

>>8151518
>filthy terf**

Ftfy

>>8151518
>>8151526
How are you a commie with these results?

>>8154133
Cis gay male

>>8151448
good job
this is the best opinion

>>8145671
this

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>>8122747
Basically:
>individuals are equal
>women aren't """oppressed""" in white society anymore
>Islam fucking sucks for women and LGBT and I don't care how often you tell me burqas are empowering and gay executions are just cultural

>trigger warning right at the start
haha pathetic cunts

>Men who support female empowerment are inherently weak
YES

>Since men repress women not only in the public sphere but also in the home
IMPLYING IMPLICATIONS

results:
Traditionalism: 95%
Liberal Feminism: 45%
Radical Feminism: 8%
Marxist Feminism: 10%
Cultural Feminism: 7%

my face when there are real people out there who unironically fall for feminism
brb investing in whiskas stock

>>8154150
it's not that good

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>>8122747
Gay Male

>>8154972
Now post in the political compass thread and tell me if you're single.

>>8154343
it's nice

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>>8122747
haha what the fuck I'm a libertarian-leaning conservative christian femboy who infinitely regrets not castrating myself when it still mattered

why did I get marxist points

bi dude

results:
Traditionalism: 63%
Liberal Feminism: 70%
Radical Feminism: 29%
Marxist Feminism: 36%
Cultural Feminism: 21%

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>>8122747
Heres me. also it should be noted that marxist feminism is subversive in the poll because it doesnt differentiate between thinking something is a problem and thinking the solution to that problem is legislation instead of grass roots movements (IE if we want more representation, purchase goods and services that offer it instead of just trying to authoritarian it).

This means that the marxist feminism category should be ignored unless it is unusually high for your poll op.

>>8155180
also female female and lesbian since you apperantly need this info

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>>8134728
I am feminist and I think the draft should not exist, that dating requiring the man to pay for the food is retarded, that women should not be getting special treatment in the military unless they want very very specific roles (nursehood,). Fat acceptance is garbage, and for the most part the idea that feminism in western society needs to subvert and control instead of just provide a better market for things like female protagonists and cultural attitudes towards gender and sexism (which do exist) since doing so will only allow the government more subversive control and isn't likely to really change anyones opinion, just destroy the lives of people who are outliers. Over all I think the pay gap is real but was destroyed as a problem when retards started ruining it with false equivalence and number slandering. Hiring agents do give higher sallarys for STEM jobs to men. In further news the fact that feminists did this to this woman disgusts me when I consider her an icon. I think it really reveals how sexist against women other women really are that babbish does the same thing and gets a pass on /r/food.

Ultimately I think the best way forward for feminism is to be a tolerant friend to someone with completely divergent opinions such as sexists and make chauvinists.

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>>8154972
already did and I am currently because I moved for up north for a job :/

>>8155236
>>8154989
opps this was for you

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Sooo I should transition?

>>8155233
>someone with completely divergent opinions such as sexists
Sexists don't have divergent opinions from feminists.

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male straight pedo

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>>8122747
cute femboy here, did I do it right?

>>8155233
Agree with everything. That's wholesome as fuck desu, I've never met a feminist with such positive attitudes before.

>Ultimately I think the best way forward for feminism is to be a tolerant friend to someone with completely divergent opinions such as sexists and make chauvinists.
Same. I'm questioning MtF, and just see the extreme social conservatives as wounded and unaware, but not inferior to me or worthy of disrespect. Their lack of empathy for me wouldn't justify lack of empathy for them.

Check out http://sfhelp.org/relate/keys/attitudes.htm, that's what your reply made me think of.

>>8123814
>>8123796
here are the moderate sources on the pay gap myth. it does exist, its part bullshit, part sexism, part inferiority complex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKJFESU7hqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM

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they gave me a lot of issues that i'm indifferent toward

>>8151359
Ew. Gross. 0/10 would not date because I don't want to be stuck in the kitchen for my whole life.
t. bi girl

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White bisexual girl here. I did accidentally click forward on a couple of questions on neutral, so I'm a lot less traditional than that.

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>>8159059
Will you suck my girl penis (male)? Pls pls pls

>>8159059
Oh yeah, I'm cis.

>>8159077
I thought female penises didn't work anymore?

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>>8122747
Fag here. I'm surprised my feminist scores were this high to be honest fampai.

>>8159099
Do you just hate women?

>>8159051
Oh ho ho ho don't flatter yourself. Besides, I do the cooking, my lil' boybride loves him some cajun gator tail.

>>8159111
Gross. Southern on top of all that. It's a miracle you could even find a partner, although you'd certainly have better luck with men than women with that attitude.

>>8159116
Oooh, don't be a sour puss. Besides, you barked first, you should've expected a metaphorical Sunday Paper to the nose.

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>>8159099
>I fucking hate women.png
What did he mean by this? Can I call you daddy?

>>8159103
Pretty much. They're generally tolerable in conversation but once any level of intimacy is established they end up being crazy and/or stupid.
>>8159132
Only if you have a tight bp