Conversion Therapy Needed

>>8121661
The most conversion therapy will do is teach you to suppress your gay feelings in an unhealthy way. It's not going to actually convert you to straight and the way they focus on making you ashamed and scared enough to repress is really not mentally good for anyone anyway.
Just don't date while in school, focus on your studies.

>>8121674
I know, I'm already experiencing trouble without even suppressing it though so how bad can it be.

>>8121661
Rape the gay away

3 years ago I was a faggot (like the flamboyant kind of gay) and now I'm a married man and have a qtpi wife and am expecting a kid. If I got hard bc of guys I'd slap it. Like a bottle of ketchup. Did this until I wasn't turned on by guys and slowly worked my way into women by watching gay porn where one guy was girly and then watched girl anal vids and then jsut watched normal porn. Worked for me and tll work for you

>>8122114
You're still a faggot tho that's why you hang out on lgbt
Trans straight isn't really straight

Can you not just marry some bitch for appearances and use grindr to have occasional secret fag sex on the side? Bitch won't care as long as you bring home money.

>>8122114
this is so fucking sad, you piece of shit dude this is going to fall on you like a stack of bricks in probably no more than a decade

>>8122114
you can fuck girls if you're gay, it just isn't as enjoyable as fucking men.
a lot of men in the middle of the kinsey spectrum marry women because it is easier to fit in than to be an out gay man.
a lot of men cheat on their wives with men.
do what makes you happy.
but being able to fuck women doesn't mean you have eliminated your attraction to men, you've just suppressed it.

>>8121661
get a bf you retard

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>>8122325
>Bitch won't care

yes, but most bitches will care if they find out.
especially if they find out because you gave them chlamydia.

>>8122222
Nope! I never knew this existed actually until today.

>>8122346
No it won't I was sick but cured myself. Even if it will I'll just redo the process

>>8122351
My dick doesn't move a bit now when I look at gay porn. I'm cured

>>8122436
My dick doesn't move when I look at gay porn either but that's because I'm not in the mood usually.
Diamonds for guys irl

>>8122358
easily prevented by just not having sex with his wife. she won't care and probably will be relieved if anything. Just buy her a new car if she gets uppity that's all bitches really want anyway

>>8122444
Boner actually dies when I do sexual stuff with guys. Wife and I were at cinema to see Login and she had her hand on my leg and I popped a chub and bla bla bla a guy missed his seat and sat on me and Boner was dead instantly

>>8122479
>boner died because some guy i can't see very well sat on me
>proof I'm not gay guys
The fuck? Are you 16 at a high school party or something?
Pretty sure the shock of someone sitting on me by accident would kill my boner too

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>>8122479
well, that proves it, you're straight!

seriously, tho, congratulations on doing what no other man has ever been able to do.

check back with us in 10 years and let us know how the marriage is doing.

glad you're straight.

enjoy that sweet pussy!

>>8122222
Wouldn't consider mtf with an ftm relationship straight? Muh gender roles

>>8122498
I wish j was 16 so I wouldn't waste them this time ..

>>8122505
Thanks kind anon I pinkie promise I will

>>8122514
I would if they used their biological gender till they got the surgery.thats when I call when male or female
>>8122222
Also didn't notice till now but look at those digits

>>8122538
Kek wills it, he/you is/are a faggot

>>8122514
>Penis in vaginas = straight
>fake balls erecting penis in scrotum cave = vomit_girl.jpg

>>8122557
Quire disgusting isn't it

>>8121661

This is 100% me, I'm going to university this year and have so far managed to stay a kissless virgin but I'm worried that I might not be able to resist temptation when I live on my own

I'm pretty sure I have internalised homophobia bc I feel disgusted and ashamed with myself for not being able to stop these thoughts/feelings

Accepting it and getting a bf is not something I can ever see happening for various reasons, if anyone knows any therapy that might help pls post it

>>8123209
Corrective rape
Or just call mike pence phone number.

>>8123209
You shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. It's society shaming you and making you feel bad. Therapy helps no one and most cases of "successful" conversions end in suicide

why the fuck would you need to do this? You can just hook up with guys undercover. Or just be celibate. I would sort of understand if you were transgender and wanted to suppress those feelings, but this is dumb

It's me again

>>8123218
I would actually try electroshock at least once, what's the Pence Hotline?

>>8123222
Thanks for answering but this is what I read a lot, I know the risks but I'm already feeling very low about the whole thing, I would like to see if therapy could help (a big if I know)

>>8123229
I'm already celibate and would continue this, making the feelings go away would make my life a lot easier

I appreciate all responses but short of doing the dick slapping thing from further up thread does anyone know anything that could help?

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>>8122114
This desu
>be me 14
>really worried about not bring attracted to women
>only watch straight porn to make myself straight
Im 18 now and im like 90% straight
Like everything in the brain sexuality is malleable, to suggest its not is just ignorance and rejection of fact

>>8121661

If you just want to repress, start a vegetarian/vegan diet, start a meditation routine and practice sports to the point of exhaustion. That should kill your libido.

>>8121661
Visit Russia, many psychiatrists are treating homosexualism and transgenderism. If you pay more, they can try to cure you with electricity, or anything what can cause physical pain is good treatment too. So even without hospitalisation, without psychotrauma you can cure it in family.
Just teach the family members to use medical equipment when they see that the illnes peaks.

>>8123681

Does diet make a difference? I'm the poster from earlier who was asking about therapy btw

I already do a lot of exercise, where should I start on the meditation of I follow your advice?

>>8123721

Avoiding red meat definitely reduces your sex drive.

As of meditation, it will take a while until you hold a grip on the technique. I've been practicing zazen for the last couple of years, combined with abstinence (with very little fap included).

With time my perception of men has changed, I still perceive some as attractive, but the desire to submit is gone and I'm starting to see them as peers. Not feeling superior nor inferior to them.

When I first started, my intention was to heal my crippling depression, not to modify my orientation.
My therapist says that I have never been gay, that I just had gay feelings because of my depression.

This is just my experience.

>>8123922

Thanks for this, I've just come back from a bike ride

I'll check out zazen, I have a low libido and practice abstinence and no fap already

The points about depression definitely hit home for me, I've never been to therapy but I do experience occasional bouts of depression so maybe they could be connected

>>8121661
Conversion therapy and electroshock therapy are cruel and barbaric practices. Gay conversion ends in suicide 100% of the time.

Anyone who advocates for conversion therapy is probably a fat pathetic degenerate neckbeard virgin loser who has a maga hat. They need to learn some tolerance, love and compassion or just fucking kill themselves because no one likes them

>>8124395

Why not at least allow those who want to try the therapy to at least have access to it?

Doesn't seem fair to force people to 'learn' anything to me

>>8124458
Because the only reason people feel like they should get therapy is because society says there's something wrong with them.

>>8124463

I want therapy because I'm not comfortable with my feelings and attractions, I live in a first world nation that says LGBT is totally OK but I still feel disgusted and ashamed with myself

I'm going to try some of the advice given further upthread, none of which seems harmful? I don't see the problem here

>>8124476
You only feel that way because of how shameful the lgbt community is. You dont have make your entire life about being a faggot like lgbt does. It's not you, it's society.

>>8124490

Maybe that's true, I'm very resentful that I won't be able to have a family of my own that is based on genuine love, it would be adoption/surrogacy or a hetero family based on lies

I don't care about this amorphous 'society' or what it means to be LGBT, I agree that the community isn't to my taste but that doesn't change my opinion of myself

>>8124510
>cant have a family
Your sadness is due to the nuclear family meme which was created by society.

>>8124517

I grew up in a single parent household and have seen the impact of a non-nuclear family on children

It's not a meme it really is the best way to raise children, but then again I'm still a virgin so kids aren't on the horizon yet, 'society' doesn't seem like the cause to me

>>8121661
No you are just retarded

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OP here, gonna clear up some things.
>>8123222
It's me realizing that the gay lifestyle isn't for me. I immigrated to America, and everyone around me thinks its something that makes you brave

>>8122325
To this anon and those who think it's just for the sex, I don't give a shit about the sex. It's part of the reason I hate being gay as well though.

You people just want someone to bang for a quick fix of dopamine, I can have sex with whoever I want. When I say I want conversion therapy I want to be able to form connections with girls as I always do with guys.

Even though everyone around me supports it I wish I could just see guys as platonic as possible. I want to be able to love girls. I can have sex with them and I can have sex with guys. Gays only care about getting their dicks wet and that kind of life disgusts me.

>>8124517
It's not being able to love who I want to love.

>>8122114
Slapping and shocking are pavlovian. If you don't keep hurting yourself it'll come back in time. Don't be stupid.

It's a big risk but I'm thinking of going to a mosque or some shit. Normal therapy is stupid as hell and annoying as fuck. I just want these feelings gone as soon as possible.

>>8124889
No shit

>>8124577
I don't really care about the nuclear family. I keep imagining a happy life alongside a man I truly love with kids that I adopted and love. But as soon as I stop dreaming I wake up with a feeling of dread.

It also sickens me to think about some of my male friends in a gay way, fantasizing that our playing around would end up with hugging and kissing. It's just something I want to get rid off.

>>8122114
>Like a bottle of ketchup
I'm at my office computer right now struggling to suppress laughter.

>>8125902

>But as soon as I stop dreaming I wake up with a feeling of dread.

This is me, I stopped thinking/fapping to try and get rid of the dread and regret that always comes afterwards

>It's just something I want to get rid off.

Again, me too, I don't care about what's causing it because I just don't want to have to worry about it anymore

>>8126065
We're in this together, man. (no homo lmao)

>>8126186

Good luck out there man (may the no homo continue)

>>8125859
There are so so many lesbian/gay couples that aren't just about sex., that are about being in a loving relationship, similar to what you might call 'normal'. This caricature of the 'gay agenda (lifestyle)' is nothing more than poison put in the water by biblical literalists. You seriously believe heterosexuals wouldn't be having sex as much if America wasn't so uptight?

On conversion therapy, literally every American medical/psychiatric association has taken a stance against its efficacy.. https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy

I sincerely hope you find a good, standard psychoanalytic, therapist/counselor to try and understand why you are so revolted by a part of your being. You may not believe it but there's always a chance you can learn to love yourself as you are. High self esteem is useful in many areas, not just sexuality.

>>8125859
Hey its the married anon who was a fag. Try it man. It works. If it doesn't work you aren't doing it right. Punish yourself. It helped me to turn to god aswell so try that. Take my advice anon. I did it for 6 months. I'm glad I did

>>8126328
Only when you get older do gays stop frenzying over sex. It's too much work to find someone that wants more than just orgasms, and either way I just want to be with a girl but I can't. Also, literally every South American, African, and Middle Eastern medical/psychiatric association takes a stance against homosexuality and the validity of conversion. So can't really be with you on that, bud.

And I'm revolted because I'm insane I guess, I've already sought out your typical psychiatrist but it's been a waste of 4 months. I don't really care about being gay as long as it stops getting in the way of my studies and things. Being straight would probably interfere with it as well, but I at least wouldn't feel resentment about it.

Also it's not a caricature, have you seen the difference between straight, lesbian and gay dating app behaviors? lmao

>>8126405
All those continents are ruled by religion, and take take the stance of of homosexuallity being a mental illness. Versus places like Britain (Oxford, Cambridge) and the USA (Harvard, Yale) who are the internaional leaders in academia and are on record saying homosexuallity is not an illness. I seriously doubt you can source any internationally respected organisation saying otherwise.

Did you see a psychiatrist, i.e. someone dedicated to diagnosing and treating mental illness or a therapist? It can take time to find someone that you click with.

>>8125859
>Gays only care about getting their dicks wet and that kind of life disgusts me.

OP, don't be this stupid. You really think you're the only gay guy in the world to feel this way? You are not special. There are millions of others like you. You see slutty gays so often because sluts are by definition a vocal minority. You can't get hundreds of dicks into you if you don't outright advertise that you're open. Normal gay people don't do that of course and as such they are less seen, your perspective is flawed.

>>8126529
I understand why you want to believe it works, but according to scientific research, it dosen't.:

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-whether-conversion-therapy-can-alter-sexual-orientation-without-causing-harm/

https://www.psychotherapy.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Memorandum-of-understanding-on-conversion-therapy.pdf

>>8126549

I'm not OP but do want the therapy, of course there is going to be bias on what works and doesn't but I really want rid of these feelings

The comments about the 'LGBT community' mainly apply to young and/or shallow people, but the fact that reasonable gay people exist dooesn't stop me wanting to change

>>8126529
Yeah, but the western world's research is heavily influenced by politics and money. But trust me, I don't think homosexuality itself is wrong, but it's seriously not for me. My best friend is gay and we're moving in together soon after knowing each other I don't know how long. I don't hate him for being gay at all, I actually helped him find some guys I thought would be a good match.

It's just not for me. I don't want it at all.

It's not that we didn't click, I'm great with people and every counselor in my past and every professional in my present likes me, it's not the problem. I've been to quite a few, it's just that none of it can help.

>>8126382
Of course it doesn't work if you don't do it right, you're training yourself to be physically hurt by your thoughts rather than emotionally. But I guess that's my only way out. Thanks I guess :/

>>8126564
I sympathise with you, I really do. But it's been proven reparative therapy really dosen't work. Instead of denying this part of you why not try and find out why you feel this way and come to accept yourself for who you are? Why do you want to get rid of those feelings? Is your sexuality the only aspect of yourself that you want to change?

And again, you're being exposed to the vocal minority. Why would you hear about the thousands of young lgbt couples that fly under the radar and have 'normal' relationships?

>>8126590

I'm not scared of relationships but just want the gay feels to go away, of course I would like to be super rich as well but mainly just stop these thoughts and feelings

I could give a little information about why I think I ended up like I did but I'm not sure how relevant it is

I'm not bothered if the therapy doesn't work because I'm already living a decent life without accepting parts of me I don't like, it would just make things a lot easier

>>8126590
>vocal minority
ok <3
and yeah, I (op) was just wondering if there was some kind of way other than what's been disproven, like some experimental stuff, not sure. Sorry for taking y'alls time lol

>>8126653

Other therapy seeking poster here, you've been braver than me to start this thread OP, thanks

>>8125859
>I don't give a shit about the sex
>I want to be able to form connections with girls
Okay so then do this.
Marry a woman, have a kid with her.
You will form a connection with her as the mother of your children, and you can find a friendship, love and respect for her in that capacity.
Then if you still feel gay you can also meet guys from grindr on the side to fuck or not fuck, and also hold their hands and read poetry, ride horses together and whatever the fuck else your more-than-sexual guy love needs to be sated. While still respecting your woman back home as your wife and mother of your kid.

You're making a small problem into a big one here.

>>8126529
>I seriously doubt you can source any internationally respected organisation saying otherwise.

Because the whole subject is politically charged, just implying that there might be something wrong with homosexuality can ruin your career.

Since the 90's there hasn't been any paper published that views homosexuality as something negative or its delicate subjects such as: pedophilia, promiscuity, drug abuse, mental health.

>>8125859
>going to a mosque
Lol
They'll take you to their best gay therapy location.

The roof.

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>>8122114
enjoy having your "waifu" leave you because she wants some big nigger cock then eventually paying her to support your wife's son

I used to go to conversion therapy btw 3yrs. Done this before but AMA.

>>8121661
I'm honestly considering it to kill the urge to transition.

>>8127764
Best idea on here, thanks man

What do if she notices I look at other guys differently than her/starts questioning?

>>8127961
Lmao

>>8128257

I'd like to hear more about your experience

Did it have any effect on you?
Did the therapist give you any lifestyle advice?
What was your motivation for seeking out therapy?