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>>8109784
You look pretty

>>8109784
Not quite yet but you look good, keep at it! Been on since ~feb 16th myself but on a 2 week break bc I forgot to order them and I wanna hang myself

>>8109838
>not quite yet
not a single normal person would ever think that's a trans

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I look clocky but nobody is bothering me in public so thats a plus.

>>8109784
Envious of your hairs!

>>8109784
how do I get hair like yours? I love it so much

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>>8110337
cis tier

>>8109784
hard to say with your phone covering your jaw but looks like you have potential

>>8110680
i like niki, she has taken photos from all angles and looks fine

>hiding their chin/jaw
>ho hips
>wide shoulders
Oh, hun.

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Hair is taking fucking forever to grow out, I think it's my biggest roadblock and playing the waiting game is infuriating.

>>8110912
no hormones or makeup or anything, would I pass?

>>8110914
Hard to say with those glasses
At least your shoulders aren't too broad

>>8110910
Wigs are your best friends. You can find some really natural looking ones. Kinda pricey tho...

>>8110953
Most wigs look unnatural anyway, even better ones

>>8110910
Try to style them in a more feminine way
This hairstyle isn't doing you a favor

>>8110937
I must be blessed by Jesus!

...prbly not worth taking pictures since my eyebrows are terrible

>>8109784
>No hips
>Lobster cracking hands
>Linebacker shoulders
>"Passing"

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assume my gender

>>8110912
u look like a dyke

>>8110910
you look like a girl, try going out in obviously female clothing

>>8110680
u look like a masc girl, really grainy pic tho

>>8110337
u r cisgirl tier nikky

>>8109784
u pass in that pic imo

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"Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."

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Hi

>>8111047
You pass easily

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1 month hrt, what are my chances?

>>8109784
pass
>>8110337
pass
>>8110990
male

>>8110990
Pretty andro, probably ftm
But whatever you are, you have no fashion sense

>>8111189
Keep going =)

>>8109784
Hmm

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Help

>>8111199
thats cause of his extreme sense of autism

autism boy over there is a failure of a man so he clings to the thought of femininity

>>8111320
shill off somewhere else, please

sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me

>>8111309
Brow shave and something to fix your jaw.

>>8111341
Holy fucking autism kek

H
AA
AHAHA

HAHHA

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no makeup and no hormones here.... can I pass?

>>8111309
Sam!

>>8111309
I mean from your overall look (idk how your voice is but), you pass. However, looking at specific parts of your body like your face, it doesn't look exactly female. I'm sure you are able to pass as an average looking girl.

BTW, you might need to look into getting braces, seems like you've got a huge overbite, that causes the no chin/weak jaw situation.

>>8111309
beautiful waifu

>>8111309
I would ask you out on a date. You are so pretty for me for some reason. <3

>>8111375
Who's this?
>>8111397
I actually already has braces. I did used to be a lot better but my teeth all kinda wiggled around.

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On Control of the Stomach
I shall speak first about control of the stomach, the opposite to gluttony, and about how to fast and what and how much to eat. I shall say nothing on my own account, but only what I have received from the Holy Fathers. They have not given us only a single rule for fasting or a single standard and measure for eating, because not everyone has the same strength; age, illness or delicacy of body create differences. But they have given us all a single goal: to avoid over-eating and the filling of our bellies. They also found a St. John Cassian day's fast to be more beneficial and a greater help toward purity than one extending over a period of three, four, or even seven days. Someone who fasts for too long, they say, often ends up by eating too much food. The result is that at times the body becomes enervated through undue lack of food and sluggish over its spiritual exercises, while at other times, weighed down by the mass of food it has eaten, it makes the soul listless and slack.

>>8111373
oh my fucking god HAHAHA

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They also found that the eating of greens or pulse did not agree with everyone, and that not everyone could live on dry bread. One man, they said, could eat two pounds of dry bread and still be hungry, while another might eat a pound, or only six ounces, and be satisfied. As I said, the Fathers have handed down a single basic rule of self-control: "do not be deceived by the filling of the belly" (Prov. 24:15. LXX), or be led astray by the pleasure of the palate. It is not only the variety of foodstuffs that kindles the fiery darts of unchastity, but also their quantity. Whatever the kind of food with which it is filled, the belly engenders the seed of profligacy. It is not only too much wine that besots our mind: too much water or too much of anything makes it drowsy and stupefied. The Sodomites were destroyed not because of too much wine or too much of other foods, but because of a surfeit of bread, as the Prophet tells us (cf. Ezek. 16:49).

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Bodily illness is not an obstacle to purity of heart, provided we give the body what its illness requires, not what gratifies our desire for pleasure. Food is to be taken in so far as it supports our life, but not to the extent of enslaving us to the impulses of desire. To eat moderately and reasonably is to keep the body in health, not to deprive it of holiness.

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A clear rule for self-control handed down by the Fathers is this: stop eating while still hungry and do not continue until you are satisfied. When the Apostle said, "Make no provision to fulfill the desires of the flesh" (Rom. 13:14), he was not forbidding us to provide for the needs of life; he was warning us against self-indulgence. Moreover, by itself abstinence from food does not contribute to perfect purity of soul unless the other virtues are active as well. Humility, for example, practiced through obedience in our work and through bodily hardship, is a great help. If we avoid avarice not only by having no money, but also by not wanting to have any, this leads us towards purity of soul. Freedom from anger, from dejection, self-esteem and pride also contributes to purity of soul in general, while self-control and fasting are especially important for bringing about that specific purity of soul which comes through restraint and moderation. No one whose stomach is full can fight mentally against the demon of unchastity. Our initial struggle therefore must be to gain control of our stomach and to bring our body into subjection not only through fasting but also through vigils, labors and spiritual, reading, and through concentrating our heart on fear of Gehenna and on longing for the kingdom of heaven.

>>8111373
seems like your biggest problem are your feet / hands / height. hard to tell if your shoulders are fucked too because of that stupid pose you are making. Face seems pretty okay starting point for hrt. I say go for it.

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http://dormitionpgh.org/tidbits/eight_Vices_Gluttony.asp

St. John Cassian
On The Eight Vices — Vice 1: Gluttony
(Philokalia Volume 1)

>>8111479
having masculine hands is a nightmare

>>8111047
pls

>>8111488
yes dadhands are a bummer but luckily it's far less important than having a passable face.

>>8111505
lol "dadhands"

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Giue mee any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickednesse, but the wickednesse of a woman.

14 And any affliction, but the affliction from them that hate me: and any reuenge, but the reuenge of enemies.

15 There is no head aboue the head of a serpent, and there is no wrath aboue the wrath of an enemie.

16 I had rather dwell with a lyon and a dragon, then to keepe house with a wicked woman.

17 The wickednesse of a woman changeth her face, and darkeneth her countenance like sackecloth.

18 Her husband shall sit among his neighbours: and when hee heareth it, shall sigh bitterly.

19 All wickednesse is but little to the wickednesse of a woman: let the portion of a sinner fall vpon her.

20 As the climbing vp a sandie way is to the feete of the aged, so is a wife full of words to a quiet man.

21 Stumble not at the beautie of a woman, and desire her not for pleasure.

22 A woman, if shee maintaine her husband, is full of anger, impudencie, and much reproch.

23 A wicked woman abateth the courage, maketh a heauie countenance, and a wounded heart: a woman that will not comfort her husband in distresse maketh weake hands, and feeble knees.

24 Of the woman came the beginning of sinne, & through her wee all die.

25 Giue the water no passage: neither a wicked woman libertie to gad abroad.

26 If she goe not as thou wouldest haue her, cut her off from thy flesh, and giue her a bill of diuorce, and let her goe.

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i'm gay

>>8110680
Masc girl but make your eye brows a little less arched maybe cause it make your eyes look really wide

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1 Blessed is the man that hath a vertuous wife, for the number of his dayes shall be double.
2 A vertuous woman reioyceth her husband, and he shall fulfill the yeeres of his life in peace.
3 A good wife is a good portion, which shall be giuen in the portion of them that feare the Lord.
4 Whether a man be rich or poore, if he haue a good heart towards the Lord, he shall at all times reioyce with a cheerefull countenance.
5 There bee three things that mine heart feareth: and for the fourth I was sore afraid: the slander of a citie, the gathering together of an vnruly multitude, and a false accusation: all these are worse then death.
6 But a griefe of heart and sorrow, is a woman that is ielous ouer another woman, and a scourge of the tongue which communicateth withall.
7 An euil wife is a yoke shaken to and fro: he that hath hold of her, is as though he held a scorpion.
8 A drunken woman and a gadder abroad, causeth great anger, and shee will not couer her owne shame.
9 The whordome of a woman may be knowen in her haughtie lookes, and eye lids.
10 If thy daughter be shamelesse, keepe her in straitly: lest she abuse her selfe through ouermuch libertie.
11 Watch ouer an impudent eye: and marueile not, if shee trespasse against thee.
12 Shee will open her mouth as a thirstie traueiler, when he hath found a fountaine: and drinke of euery water neere her: by euery hedge will she sit downe, and open her quiuer against euery arrow.
13 The grace of a wife delighteth her husband, and her discretion will fat his bones.
14 A silent and louing woman is a gift of the Lord, and there is nothing so much worth, as a mind well instructed.
15 A shamefast and faithfull woman is a double grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued.

16 As the Sunne when it ariseth in the high heauen: so is the beautie of a good wife in the ordering of her house.

>>8111540
I wish my skin was that pale

technically if you are female and like boys perhaps you are not gay

>>8111540
emma watson

>>8111373
you can pass. You look like a huge homo right now though

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male (female)

inb4 >bathroom inb4 >sideways

will rate in next post

>tfw faceapp doesn't change your bone structure and just applies makeup for the female version
>tfw people ignore gendering you until you speak
>tfw obviously lesbian girls smile at you
>tfw you're so close to passing and you haven't even gotten a girl haircut/eyebrows trimmed/trachea shaved/electrolysis
I'd post a pic but I know I've only got like a few months on hormones until people can't tell if I'm cis or trans so whatever, I'll show you fags when that happens

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>>8111199
i was trying on a costume for school play over school uniform ree
I know I pass in girlmode anyway, thats why im just posting guymode pics.

>>8111341
this isnt me baka

>>8111663

>>8111540
need longer hair and more time but i like your makeup
>>8111373
not sure why you would choose that outfit of all things to post in but you definitely have potential. very HSTS-esque pose
>>8111309
pass
>>8111189
not too great tbqh
>>8111047
pass as autistic 14yo girl
>>8110990
transbian/10
>>8110910
cute. you'll be fine
>>8110337
pass

>>8110680

face passes, giant blocky skull does not

>>8111623
big deal....we're not trying to look like good looking malea

>>8111778
we're not trying to look like good looking males*

(At least I'm not)

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19 My sonne, keepe the flowre of thine age sound: and giue not thy strength to strangers.

20 When thou hast gotten a fruitfull possession through all the field: sowe it with thine owne seede, trusting in the goodnesse of thy stocke.

21 So thy race which thou leauest shalbe magnified, hauing the confidence of their good descent.

22 An harlot shall bee accounted as spittle: but a maried woman is a towre against death to her husband.

23 A wicked woman is giuen as a portion to a wicked man: but a godly woman is giuen to him that feareth the Lord.

24 A dishonest woman contemneth shame, but an honest woman will reuerence her husband.

25 A shamelesse woman shalbe counted as a dog: but she that is shamefast will feare the Lord.

26 A woman that honoureth her husband, shall bee iudged wise of all: but she that dishonoureth him in her pride, shall be counted vngodly of all.

27 A loude crying woman, and a scolde, shall be sought out to driue away the enemies.

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20, 7 months hrt
>>8109784
pass
>>8110337
pass
>>8110680
pass
>>8110910
no pass
>>8110912
no pass
>>8110990
female
>>8111047
no pass
>>8111189
no pass
>>8111309
pass
>>8111373
you look like you will pass with ffs
>>8111540
no pass

>>8112017
facial surgery? that's absurd

>>8112017
pass as cat

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9 The father waketh for the daughter when no man knoweth, and the care for her taketh away sleepe; when shee is yong lest shee passe away the flowre of her age, and being married, lest she should be hated:

10 In her virginitie lest she should be defiled, and gotten with childe in her fathers house; and hauing an husband, lest she should misbehaue herselfe: and when shee is married, lest shee should be barren.

11 Keepe a sure watch ouer a shamelesse daughter, lest shee make thee a laughing stocke to thine enemies, and a by-word in the citie, and a reproch among the people, and make thee ashamed before the multitude.

12 Behold not euery bodies beauty, and sit not in the midst of women.

13 For from garments commeth a moth, and from women wickednesse.

14 Better is the churlishnesse of a man, then a courteous woman, a woman I say, which bringeth shame and reproch.

>>8112329
thanks for keeping this thread bumped so my attention whore self doesn't have to

>>8112355
this is secret knowledge from heaven which will last forever....you will also know it forever

....God is a Father who watches over His sons and daughters

God lives

>>8112017
You pass but you look like one of those chubby walmart mexicans. also those cat ears you ordered off of amazon are hideous.

>>8112373
>Unironically posting christian babble in 2017
Just how dumb are you?

>>8112672
....the parts of the Bible that don't line up with reality may have been written by mankind but there may still be real and ontological divine truth found within the Bible

>>8112840
Except for there being no originality in it. Every religion has been used and reused a million times. Taking points from past stories and changing them slightly to sell a new religion. It's so obvious it pains me to see religious doctrine still pushed on so many kids.

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another one, from tonight

>>8113037
You look really tired.

>>8112951
can you prove this to be so? Can you prove that Christianity is false?

>>8113037
you look warm

>>8113305
I can prove what I implied. That Christianity is just recycled stories from religions of before it. But don't worry, So is Islam and Hinduism and just about every other modern religion out there.


>>8113037
Cute

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>>8111409
No one ever asks me on a date
>Get this bottle cap today
>Think about crush
Pls

>>8110910
You are so fucking cute holy shit

>>8110990
You look like a soft Butch boi, female?

>>8111691
Please date me

>>8113646
Which exact "recycled stories" does it use?

>>8113688
>>8113646
>tfw you find out you don't pass and your religion is complete bullshit

>>8113684
The good fortunes never turn out do they


>>8113688
A whole lot. If you really wanna know the exact details you can research yourself. Google 'similarities between bible and earlier religions'.

>>8113694

Oh boy Christianity and Transgenderism, the two most notable pillars of my identity, time to hijack someone else's discussion

The reason for the similarities has always been explained by the Church as the common inspiration from the divine all humans have. "The truth [of Christ's sacrifice] will out," so to speak, even in a culture half a continent away from Jerusalem. They will still know, deep down in their collective psyche that God will sacrifice for them, it just gets muddled in mythology because they're so distant from the Holy Land.

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>>8113727
>A whole lot. If you really wanna know the exact details you can research yourself.
>research it yourself

>>8113781
You won't take anything said here seriously. So why would I? You will only realize how stupid your religion is when you look at/for the problems yourself. Do you always have to have people lay out everything for you?

>>8113801

>2,000 years of many of the smartest, most insightful, most brilliant people in European history, combined with the tried and tested traditions of millions upon millions of Christians over those two millenia
>You will realize how stupid it is if you look at the problems

Have you ever considered you might be missing a bit of depth here? That maybe you don't fully understand the nuances of a very ancient theological tradition, and are relying on a shallow and insubstantial interpretation of what you think Christianity means?

>>8113801
Why wouldn't I take it seriously? If you /actually/ had something worth while to say I'd be interested in hearing it! I'm not here arguing in favor for Christianity but rather I just want to hear out your argument. It doesn't seem like you have anything else to say other than "haha thats some dumb XD" and making yourself look like a buffoon.

>>8113811
Yes, please act like for most of those years people weren't forced or otherwise indoctrinated to follow various religious traditions.


>>8113818
I gave you a starting point. A line in which you can take hold and look for yourself. Again, Im not gonna hold your hand all the way here.

>>8113851
You don't need to hold my hand but you should be at the very least able to elaborate on your own points rather than having someone else explain them for you. Again give me at least one good comparison yourself.

>>8110990
how come you haven't got raped by your pastor or friends yet?

>>8111373
Not with that shitty fashion sense desu

>>8113851

>Yes, please act like for most of those years people weren't forced or otherwise indoctrinated to follow various religious traditions.

But few people were forced to become theologians or philosophers, yet the history of Western thought is filled with people who saw so much truth in Christianity they turned it from a sect of Judiaism into one of the most complex and deep belief systems ever cultivated.

>>8113037
Do you remember the life you left behind to become this desiccated creature?

>>8113868
Jesus fucking christ. Last reply about this so as to stop from derailing this thread any more. Jesus life is basically a rip off of the lives of Krishna/Horus/Buddha and Pagan gods. I mean its like every little thing that happened in jesus life also happened in the lifes of those mentioned.
>were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.
>born of virgin mothers
>adoptive father was a carpenter
>blah blah blah


>>8113903
I never said religion didn't contribute in various ways, like science(ironically) and philosophy throughout history. But that still doesn't change the fact that children are indoctrinated by religion.

>>8113903
>a sect of judaism
No. Both Judaism and Christianity are breakaway sects of Israelite faith.

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>>8113950
>this fucking retard actually fell for zeitgeist memes

>>8113972
So you've read the bible and quran? Because i have and seen these similarities myself. Again why would I believe some image posted here?

>>8113950

>But that still doesn't change the fact that children are indoctrinated by religion.

Which itself doesn't change the fact that the theology and philosophy behind the system of thought is far too complex and nuanced to be discredited by "looking at the problem." Your moving goal posts, and claiming people indoctrinate other people with religion is a (roundabout) ad hominem. You're doing an increasingly tenuous job of defending your claims.

>>8113987
I've read the Bible like 10 times over, you stupid fuck. Show me any of those "similarities".

>>8111540
I'm sorry but you don't look gay, just ornamental

>>8113990
You're not getting me. The fact a book that is supposed to be the "word of god" has any problems about it should be proof enough it not. And i love how you so easily brush off indoctrination like it's not fucked up.


>>8113994
But not the quran? Or the tipitaka? Or any other religious book other than the bible? Ok then, my point proven. You look no further then what you were indoctrinated to believe.

>>8111540

That's weird, you look a lot like me pre-trans, except all of my negative features smoothed out and fixed. Like I have the same hair but a much more aggressive cowlick; the same body, but much more hair literally on every inch of my skin; the same eyebrows but less controlled.

That's creep af

>>8113646
Okay, I really doubt you can.

Can you prove that specific point in this thread (the point regarding Christianity being 'recycled from other religions'...)

(sigh) .....no, anon, the truth is that Christianity is the TRUTH no matter what anybody has to say about it....I wouldn't be Christian if it wasn't true

God makes some of us male, some female, and some in the freshly bodies of the opposite gender but it is spiritual truths which matter, just like Jesus told us while He was here

>>8114018

Christianity is far more than the Bible. The Bible is the inspired word of god, not the literal word, most of it is metaphorical and has been understood as such by 99% of all Christian theologians before American protestantism, and itself only contains roundabout references to the core doctrines of the religion (trinitarianism, the reality/centrality of the Eucharist, hypostatic union, etc etc)

And yeah indoctrination is fucked up but also entirely irrelevant. We're talking about the religion and the problems you think are in it, not the way some people choose to proselytize.

>>8114040

Oh by the way Happy Easter fellow Christ-tran

Christos Anesti

>>8114018
Just because the Bible doesn't add up doesn't make the knowledge within false.

I believe in Christianity because God testifies to it in real life over and over again.

If you don't see this, then ask God for yourself and He will show you this.

Not to hate on you at all anon, but I push this point against you only for the sake of clarity and truth. Nothing wrong with you and against you, but it's far too easy, especially amongst LGBT people, to overlook religion and do a dis-service to Jesus and become an accidental offense to God by their own ignorance. (Not that they are offensive to God, but that they accidentally offend God by being ignorant....)

>>8114118
Thanks!!!!!!

What a blessing. Please pray that God will be here for me, and I will pray for y'all as well!

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1.5 years hrt

>>8114119
But I do believe in god anon. A deist god. Only thing that makes sense to me desu. Was raised christian.

>>8114139
if I knew you irl would likely try to get with you

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I was catcalled once for sure and possibly two other times.

A chubby hipster in jean shorts with a septum piercing snapped his fingers at me. I stopped and glared at him. He lisped, "You look beautiful."

I flipped him off and replied, "How does this look?"

Another man asked me if liked Marilyn Manson as I walked by a train station. I replied no. After I realized I was probably being mocked, I responded, "Do you like having your teeth kicked in?" and continued on my way.

In my apartment complex lobby, I was leaving the building. A husky fellow stepped in front of me as I changed direction to move around him. He said hello. I continued around him. He said, "Nice to meet you." I responded, "Uh...ye-ah." As I walked away, he said, "Don't worry. I'm just waiting for someone." I said, "Clearly."

In hindsight, I should've replied, "If you step in my way again, you'll be waiting for an ambulance."

>>8113037
Your eye make-up makes you look sleep deprived, but the rest of your face looks very soft. Wearing your hair in a bob may help hide the shape of your chin.

>>8112017
Very cute

>>8111540
You're a jerk. That's not your picture.

>>8111373
With longer hair or a wig, you'll be fine. I recommend wearing a padded bra. Like the others said, lose the pose.

>>8111309
Still a pass. Growing out bangs will hide the male hairline.

>>8111189
Your browline gives you away. Longer hair and breast growth will help.

>>8110990
The suspenders are a cool look. I'm guessing female. The androgynous look suits you. Pass as a female.

>>8114139
Definite pass

>>8114182
>I responded, "Do you like having your teeth kicked in?"
Calm that male aggression!

>>8114217
Lol. I'm transitioning to a woman not a pussy.

>>8111189
looks so loving and sweet-hearted

>>8114182
is this pasta?

>>8114226
If you don't want to be demure and submissive you're not trans.

>>8114182
thanks for your input

also thanks for posting a picture of yourself while giving feedback

I desperately warn you to be nice....the besuty comes from within, I couldn't stress that enough for you

I feel for you, being on a losing streak is no fun, but the good treasures in you must be able to come out from within you and so to will the beauty come out from within you

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>>8114251
I think it is the world which makes people that way....if you think, being trans for some means being in complete opposition to society or like what society expects of you, but definitely beauty comes from within

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5“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

16“You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

17“So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

18“A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

19“Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20“So then, you will know them by their fruits.

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>>8109784
Just turned 10 months today~!

>>8114283
of course, this has more meanings than one (divine meanings) and I myself am not perfect.... I believe in purgatory but I also believe that if somebody believes in Jesus then they will be saved no matter what and will not see damnation

>>8114291
sexy

>tfw christfag shits up the thread right after you post and you get no replies

>>8114269
I want to be a humble, loving gf.

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I know this is an old photo, but I'm really trying here. I've been transitioning for 6 months now (mtc), and I think I am making progress, but I'm not really sure. I've been on gene repair treatment, and I think that some changes have occured, but they seem too subtle. I'd appreciate constructive criticism.

Thanks,
-cat.

>>8114315
Pretty close but I can clock you by the way you type.

You should try more to emulate the "walking across the keyboard" aesthetic.

>>8114291
O sorry my phone flipped it for some reason...

>>8114249
No. It was my night.

>>8114260
Perhaps. Until I buy some mace, it'd be best I watch my mouth.

Any feedback for my looks?

>>8114251
Troll harder, please

>>8114269
For me, it means I want to be a woman. I'll never be a stereotypical woman, but a woman is what I am.

>>8114315
See>>8114327

>>8114358
>>8114182
why do you do your makeup like that? not judging, just curious

>>8114269
I have no idea what this is from, but her facial expression is hilarious.

>>8114366
>not judging, just curious
>means they're judging
It's the look I prefer. The matte finish also hides my facial hair. Cheap razors plus dark hair=permanent stubble/beard shadow

>>8114410
i just thought it might sound harsh if i didn't add anything to the question.

>>8114426
I don't listen to goth or metal--I'm a punk rocker by nature--, but the look is solid. Pre-transition I wore a ton of black. That isn't going to change.

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What is the point of posting in these

if you are sane, than you know wether you pass or not

If you are not sane, its unlikely you will listen to anything said here and try to cherry pick some hug box

I don't get it and it depresses me to see OP on hrt for 2 months and look cis

>>8114782
It's hard to tell if you pass or not. Insecurity regarding body image, a byproduct of dysphoria, distorts how the trans population views itself. Asking a second opinion never hurts.

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>>8114291

>>8114980
how should i kill myself once i have broken off contact with everyone I know?

>>8109784
you look good but don't look so infatuated with yourself, my eyes are up here

>>8115007
By finding support groups, reminding yourself that your existence matters and giving yourself hugs when the times are darkest

>>8114996
Very close to passing, but right now you fall a little bit into the ayyyy lmao category.

>>8115193
Thanks, I am not serious about photoshopping. I just do it sometimes for fun.

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Sometimes I want to do something but I don't know the right tool for it, or how to use it properly. I just end up saying 'fuck it' and do a worse version of what I wanted half-assed because I don't want to spend an hour learning to do it right.

>>8115223
OH ok, my bad. your left picture looks much better.

>>8115229
>OH ok, my bad. your left picture looks much better.
Wait, what? What is going on, what are you saying?

You do understand the situation properly right?
>>8114291 posted her pic
and I posted a shopped version in >>8114996 and the before and after comparison in >>8115223
I am not the one trying to pass. I just edit photos of passgen for fun.
I don't even really try to make them realistic, I just try to make them an approximation of what I would want to do.

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>>8111572
>>8111616
>>8111696
>>8112017
>>8114011
>>8114023
>>8114182

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>>8115279
meme me

>>8115279
>>8115281
You actually look like a girl i grew up with. The glasses are cute. And i like your hair too. also the sweater in the first picture is good for taking away from your shoulders.

>>8115450
yeah man tfw fashion options are limited by having a shitty body

>>8109784
Oh my god
I have that exact same top

>>8110990
Is faggot a gender? It's what I'd guess for at least half this thread

>>8115279
Thanks for the (You), but I request feedback before I rate you.

yo gay ho

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please rate

>>8111410
=}

>>8115881
Left/10

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>>8113927
if you're implying I was a healthy, normal member of society to outside appearances before I transitioned you need to lurk more senpai

>>8116262

Why do you not just make a normal facial expression that doesn't make you look like a psychopathic rapist?

>>8115881
look like an anime character/10

>>8115881
Maybe take a pic without cosplay to know if you pass?
>>8116262
Yeah, you litterally are only causing problems for yourself bc it's totally possible to have a normal smile or face but you choose to either close your eyes or spread them as wide as you can, baka.

>>8116343
>>8116820
it's extremely difficult for me to maintain natural facial expressions, especially while trying to hold a camera to take the pic at the same time etc.
neuromuscular disability etc. etc. read the archives

>>8115568

>>8111540
Is me also so you likely already did

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>>8115279
>>8115281
>>8116989
>>8111540
idk why ur bitter you have very obvious brow ridge and amy schumer lips + chin. not mention combover bangs cause male hairline.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

also anyone saying they dont need ffs needs it.
every tranny does, and its not expensive. i dont even work and could still afford it

>>8117274
>i dont even work and could still afford it
elaborate.

>>8117313
you just get idiot guys to buy you things

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i dont know. i dont look like a 21 year old man.
3 months HRT but no visible difference (except for tits). always looked like this.

>>8117360
How big are your tits?

>>8117274
stop sharing this fake timeline pls

>>8109784

cute but you'd only pass irl if you don't have a deep voice

>>8110337

pass

>>8110680

not quite yet

>>8110910

mild potential

>>8110912

could eventually pass for a FtM but probably not a full on woman

>>8110990

very cute and very pass but I wish you stayed a boy :(

>>8111047

take a normal picture

>>8111189

mild. you have feminine features but the long face will make it hard

>>8111309

getting there

>>8111373

did you post earlier in the thread?

> could eventually pass for a FtM but probably not a full on woman

>>8111540

you don't say

>>8111663

no

>>8112017

obvious angle but still probably close to passing

>>8114139

would entirely depend on how deep your voice is

>>8114182

no

>>8114291

underage banned, come back in 206 months

>>8117407
they're not big but not small.
clearly visible through shirt. I was gonna post a pic but i dont know how to NSFW tag it.

>>8117465
Cup size? How big are your relative's?

>>8117470
My sis told me yesterday and today that I really should wear a bra because my nipples are visible. Relatives are average size. Why asking?

>>8109784
They way you carry yourself just isn't female and you look like a boy in a wig.

>>8110680
>>8110910
>>8111047
>>8111189
>>8111309
>>8111373
>>8111540
>>8112017
>>8114182
>>8115279
>>8117360
Don't pass and you look strange, stop doing that. Go on a vision quest or do some self reflection if you ever hope to pass. I'm not saying you wont be able to find someone to stick their dick in your anus and call you the most beautiful girl in the world as you get a reach around. You can still have that and not pass and it would actually increase your chances by not passing.

>>8114139
Bad figure but at least you look natural.

>>8114291
Looks like an angle but in this you look normal female.

>>8117482
I'm gauging how big my breasts will grow and how soon.

>>8117456
>>8117493
Why don't I pass? This is me. >>8114182

>>8117510
Like most of the ones I said don't pass it's because you look like you stumbled out half drunk from a cross dressing community.

It's a harsh truth people hate to hear. Your looks are fake and not even well done fake.

>>8117493
>Don't pass and you look strange, stop doing that. Go on a vision quest or do some self reflection if you ever hope to pass. I'm not saying you wont be able to find someone to stick their dick in your anus and call you the most beautiful girl in the world as you get a reach around. You can still have that and not pass and it would actually increase your chances by not passing.


Why do I look strange? :o

>>8117559
Because you made yourself look that way.

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>>8117577
>Because you made yourself look that way.
what??? literally no make up

>>8117548
That doesn't explain why I didn't pass.

>It's a harsh truth people hate to hear.

Most of the time when people post this it's because they get off on being a provocateur, not that their opinions--often overly harsh--are worth listening too.

>>8117718
not them, but you just don't. the world is not out to get you, you objectively do not look like a woman. it's something about your facial structure, and the thick, unflattering makeup does nothing to hide masculine features or emphasize feminine ones.

are you on hrt?

>>8117718
First of all, your makeup makes you look like a crossdresser or amateur low budget drag queen who just started out. The makeup makes your manly face show even more. Second, your hair looks like a wig (if it is a wig, lose it). Third: From this picture it looks like you put 0 effort into passing, but just put lipstick on and expect to pass. It doesn't work like that.

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Four years going strong.

>>8118345

That nose is incredible...

>>8118345

can i cave your hair?

my favorite thing about these threads is the people that are hyper critical of shit no normal person would ever notice.

>>8117776
>>8117859
>it's something about your facial structure
That may be true, but since no one will point out a specific aspect I do feel like this thread is overly critical to the point of cyberbullying.

>>8118480
Seriously.

>>8116262
>tfw you remember when Robin looked like this

fuck this a blast from the past

>>8118692
I just explained why you don't pass explicitly. Hair. Face. Drag queen makeup. Get it through your head.

And no, not everyone is being a bully, lots are just being critical and are being honest.

>>8116262
>noelle.jpg
Just curious, what made you switch names? Which one do you use in real life, if either?

>>8118345
shave that disgusting bottom of the neck ball of hair, and the rest of the neck hairs too.

>>8119182
my previous trip names were all joke names because I couldn't (still can't) bring myself to refer to myself as a female

olrapeyface because >>8116343 , >>8116820
edgar because it's a funny old-timey-sounding name
noelle because every fucker tells me I look like Noel Fielding like it's the first time I've heard it (protip: it isn't)

I only changed it to my actual girlname eventually because using noelle started getting me run out of mtfg everyone was so fed up with my depressiveness and lack of progress

>>8110337
best looking gal in the thread. 100% pass. well done

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hey someone tell me if i look like a boy or a girl >>8111663

>>8111663
14 year old boy

>>8118924
I asked about my facial structure and instead of explaining you got bitchy. That makes it easy to dismiss your comments as cyberbullying, in particular when you respond with such vitriol.

>>8120641
You pass fine honey, don't listen to the mean, girls, I couldn't tell the difference between you and cis girls!

Hope I wasn't overly critical or cyberbullying you! ~~

>>8120820
There's a difference between being mean and providing useful feedback. I know it. You know it. Grow up.

>>8121100
I know, but it's pretty clear that you draw the line a lot farther than most of us.

There's no winning with you people, just delete your posts and I pinky promise I'll forget your face, thnx~
<3 ;v

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>>8121720
Thumbnail reminded me of this

>>8121720
Double D!!!!!!!!!!!

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Long time femboy considering hrt but such a huge undertaking. Scared I won't pass or still be unhappy with myself. Opinions?

>>8121974
your face is really long

>>8111309
So cute.

>>8121974
start anyway, masc aging's about to come for you with a sledgehammer

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What gender dost this board perceive me as
Also i will go through everyone in this thread and tell them what i think

>>8121974
Adorable. You could pass, but your browbone might raise some eyebrows. You could look more like a girl with bangs, but honestly youre really cute now. Would make out with you while playing mario kart in our underwear
>>8121720
Pass for sure, i find you cute but you also kind of remind me of my ex gfs brother which makes things weird.
>>8118345
T done you good, easy pass.
>>8117586
The beard shadow clocks you. Sorry but electrolysis will be needed.
>>8117274
Would kiss on new years. Pass
>>8115281
>>8115279
The thick neck and broad shoulders kind of clock you. Are you on HRT?>>8115223
I feel that

>>8122101
very clearly an ftm, or some kinda 'nonbinary'.

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am i cute yet

>>8122101
You look like a girl trying to look like a guy, but I think that's what you're going for anyway.

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hamboigahs

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>>8121765
Kek

>>8115223
You should spend the hour and learn to do it right, big guy. How else are you going to become the best tranny photoshopper in the world?

>>8115279
Ambiguous.

>>8115881
You look like a girl in cosplay, but that won't necessarily hold for normal clothes. Extreme styles distract from your face/body.

>>8117360
Pass.

>>8121720
Pass. Cute filename, but it isn't true. You don't look androgynous at all.

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>>8122224

>>8122101
Pass as AFAB trans guy, which is more than most of the board, even early transitioners, can say.

>>8122197
no

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>inb4 angle
I just felt really cute with this makeup look

>>8122283
jesus you are ugly af

>>8122280
damn

>>8121319
It's one thing to say you have a manly face, you low budget drag queen. It's another to say your jaw is to masculine and your forehead is too large. The latter is helpful feedback. The former is an insult. It's clear you were hear to insult, not help.

>>8121720
Pass very cute.

>>8121974
Growing breasts will help. Some make-up and a more feminine haircut will get you a pass though.

>>8122101
You look like a tomboy, but definitely a female. It's easier to pass with adrogynous looks now a days because that's what most hipsters go for.

>>8122197
Hard pass. Very cute.

>>8122224
I'm gonna guess that's a cis woman.

>>8122283
Not good looking, but female.

>>8122302
>I'm gonna guess that's a cis woman
Ive had a shitty day, that makes me feel better.

>>8122374
It's true. You pass flawlessly.

What happened today?

>>8122404
I flipped out on my mom at a BMW dealership when they said her credit was too bad to cosign me a new M3. I feel super shitty and i think she hates me now. I just wanted a nice car like all the other cis cunts.

>>8122302
>Hard pass. Very cute.

thanks I definitely am a validation whore

>>8122419
That is a little bratty, but if you feel bad about it then that shows you know what you did was wrong. She's as embarrassed and jealous as you. She wants her daughter to have what she wants too. Many parents won't talk to their kids if they're transgendered. She not only supports your transition, but was willing to buy you a freakin' BMW. Apologize and find a way to make it up to her.

>>8122425
No need to thank me. You're...really cute.

>>8109784
i literally want to lick your butthole ( no homo}

>>8122419
lol dumbass

>>8122452
>Apologize and find a way to make it up to her.
Might be too late

>>8122534
I live in laguna beach, i just wanted to fit in, i drive a fucking lifted truck, like a vestige to my former guy life and im sick of it. Every female here either has a bmw or a lexus and i want what all white women get, nice cars and an easy life.

hay guys, short of trying to gain a whole lot of weight, how do I make my head look smaller? mtf obviously

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gonna post face later

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>>8122579
wear large hats

>>8122623
so cute!

>>8122633
thats fucking brilliant. thank you anon.

>>8122623
Bisexual.

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hey, havent posted in a while

how do i look? onto my second month of hrt

>>8122283
you should probably do something about your eyebrows although i cant really tell from that angle

>>8122197
u r cute although you look pretty stoned??? could be just the lighting but brightening your eyes with some makeup could do you wonders too

>>8122101
radical 14 y old boy

>>8121974
your face is kinda long, tough call. but with some effort i think everyone can do it

>>8115281
shoulders give it away but your face is pretty solid, gj!

>>8114182
i mean everyone who commented on your image kind of has the right idea, your face is really square, the dark makeup does not help AT ALL so either drop it or find a way of incorporating it into a look thats actually beneficial to your appearance. i know a lot of transgirls might think that they can just "be themselves" and thats fine, but if youre posting here and i can assume you do really want to pass, please, please stop with that makeup. also enhance your eyes more, because theyre tiny so try some contour.

to be honest the angle you took that pic doesnt do justice to you either, try another one!

>>8114139
gorge!

>>8122852
> u r cute although you look pretty stoned??? could be just the lighting but brightening your eyes with some makeup could do you wonders too

I'm pretty sure the estrogen makes me high.

But nah I get that a lot because my eye sockets are pretty deep. Brighter lighting shows off my eyes better (they're light blue-gray)

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>>8122852
>really square

Thank you. That's helpful. I've been considering FFS jaw surgery in the future. Thailand has some good doctors. I want to see what the hormones do first.

>the dark makeup

By that do you mean the lipstick or the foundation as well? The foundation is thick to hide my facial hair. My beard shadow won't disappear, even with good razors.

>the angle you took that pic doesnt do justice to you either

True. I was a lazy. Here's another. Probably not much better. I'm about two weeks from starting hormones, FYI, but I do really, really want to pass. Make-up tips are appreciated. A goth look would be ideal, but I'm flexible in the meantime.

>>8122852
And you pass. No question.

>>8122917
TRV KVLT TRVNS

>>8122917
>>8122923
listen, i really dont know about that goth look but if you practice enough with makeup that will get you a good passing look, youll understand how to apply those skills into something a bit more out there while still looking fab.

long hair can help frame your face, contour can help you shape your face and not wearing tshirts is probably the one thing no one should do in this thread, or at least not always anyway

for your beard shadow, i have literally the exact same problem, except i know that peach/orange color corrects can take you a long way in hiding blues and dark shadows on your face. nyx has a nice paste one, im trying to find out which one is the perfect alternative for me, but its been giving me enough results that im going to finish the container!

also >two weeks
just give it time. i started a month ago but i already looked pretty okay before hrt.

>>8122939
>not wearing tshirts
What should I go with instead?

>peach/orange color corrects
Yeah...It's just expensive. I'm running on free samples from Sephora in terms of color correction.

>i really dont know about that goth look
What look do you recommend in the mean time?

>>8122938
I don't know what that means, but I'm guessing kill yourself is part of it.

>>8122958
It means you look like a black metal artist

(Pls dont kys ;_;)

>>8122958
>what should i go with instead
idk what your body shape is like so i cant really help, just tshirts nono.

>expensive
nyx is really really cheap, itd be about 10 bucks for a container of color correct

>what look
just natural looks, thats where everyone should start and usually does. from there on work on your eye makeup and then start thinking about bolder stuff. just remember that even if its a tutorial done by a girl, most makeup in general are inspired by drag queens so its a really fine line between looking *on fleek* and looking not ok, so becareful

>>8122982
>nyx is really really cheap, itd be about 10 bucks for a container of color correct


Thanks. I'll look for that.

>from there on work on your eye makeup

My eye make-up was solid until I added foundation to the mix. I'll keep practicing.

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it.

>>8123016
I see your ears are coming in well. Don't worry that you don't have any fur yet. It takes a couple years to come in.

>>8123024
I think I love you anon.

>>8110910
Oh hey I know you. Why on Earth would you come to this horrible board? Either way, you look super cute.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZgcMSlvlRH

Does my voice pass ;~;

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P

>>8123591
Forgot my text:
P-Please respond...
On HRT since February 2016. Switched to Cypro and upped E to 3mg last November.

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>>8123591
>>8123595
pass

>>8123591
You look like a friend of mine.

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Before you a worm crawls, wretched and small
>>8123591
>>8123595
angles
you're doing ok for a year though by the looks of things
save up to have your hairline adjusted and maybe get rhinoplasty and you'll pass within another year.
>>8123016
snapchat filter/10
you pass though
>>8122917
>>8114182
I like your WRESTLING shirt
can't tell if you're wearing a wig or if you've just murdered your hair with dye to the point of it looking fake
black lipstick is a bit over the top
definite potential with ffs.
and yeah, catcallers are fucking bizarre. lmao once when I was really early transitioning I was out at a restaurant for dinner speaking in boyvoice since my girlvoice didn't exist at that point and this guy in a trucker cap at the table across said loudly to his friend "Ugh gross, dunno whether to fuck it or fight it!"
got a laugh out of me
I think you prob need to relax a bit when it comes to cunts, don't jump to threatening idiots because one day they might take you up on it and stab/shoot you.
>>8122852
>second month of hrt
reeeee
cissie get out
>>8122283
I'm glad you feel cute
makeup's good
lose the pigtails though (if you want)
>>8122197
ye
>>8122224
p jealous of your life in general
I wish I had a loving bf and a good job
>>8122101
I remember you
I'd say ftm if I didn't
>>8121974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q13t0_FN7Ho
>>8118345
bizarre mashup of Jack Nicholson and Jack Black
daddy/10
>>8117360
get laser/electro asap, possibly get a jaw reduction in a year if your face doesn't round out by hrt
you'll pass
>>8115881
hon/10
just kys you have no hope obviously
>>8115281
v pretty face
big fuggin shoulders
I'd say you pass in >>8115279 tho
>>8115223
>right
terrifying burn victim after skin graft surgery
>left
girl
>>8114782
narcissism and self hatred mostly
at least it is for me
>>8114139
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>8122283
you look like aja without drag makeup AYAYAYAYAYA

>>8123772

Your browbone and the size of your skull compared to your shoulders gives you away. That's only after examination. With a good voice and women's clothes, you pass. How tall are you?

>can't tell if you're wearing a wig or if you've just murdered your hair with dye to the point of it looking fake

It's a wig, but if you question whether it's real or not then I'll take that as a compliment.

>definite potential with ffs

Which surgeries do you recommend?

>I think you prob need to relax a bit when it comes to cunts

I decided to cool until I've invested in some mace or a taser. Then it's time for justice.

Thank you for the advice.

>WRESTLING SHIRT

Haha. A friend of mine jokes that I was born heel. No transition necessary.

Bump for narcissism

>>8121994
Thanks I guess

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>>8122224
Body shot

>>8109784
You look gorgeous

>>8115279
Very pretty

>>8124858
Very pretty sweet heart

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>>8124858

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>tfw strangers STILL don't gender you irl until after you introduce yourself
tolted

>>8110337
you look fine lol

>>8110910
not yet. You need to trim your hair from time to time btw

>>8110914
>>8111373
this is a pet peeve of mine desu.

why bother asking if you haven't grown out your hair or started hormones yet? You're not going to pass until 7+ months HRT anyway.

>>8111540
shoulders, chin, heavily shadowed eyes
nope

>>8111663
you look like a short guy wearing his sister's glasses

>>8114182
>Another man asked me if liked Marilyn Manson
this is actually kinda funny, although maybe it's because I'm from the generation that didn't grow up with cross-dressing rock stars

>>8115223
I think you needed to blend the brow shadow a little better too. The chin just kinda looked uncanny, but it was an improvement.

>>8115281
>>8115279
grow your hair out.
not bad though.

>>8115881
10/10 trap
cute af, but still definitely a boy. There's something about your eyes.

>>8114139
definitely passing at this point.

>>8121974
your brow and chin are too obvious at this point - if you went on HRT, you'd look more femme, but without FFS, you'll still be a boy.

>>8122101
male

>>8122197
totes qt

>>8122623
lanky girl bod

>>8123591
longface :/

>>8124858
>>8122917
>>8114182
>>8124858

fuck dis halloween shit

>>8115881
btw, where can I get this? did you make it yourself?

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should i just kill myself? why does everyone else think i look cis but when i look i just see fucking gross shoulder to hip ratio?

>>8125695
sry its hard to take a pic without my gross hon hands and face being in it

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I know not dressed like a girl n stuff. Cis women can pas without wearing makeup or dressing like a girl so disregarding I'm not wearing girly stuff do I pass?

>>8125851
Mhmm. Very cute.

>>8125851
>choker
>low cut top
please

>>8126068
choker because i have really intense dyphoriaabout my adams apple. Thats just a really large xxl shirt because i just put some shit on.

>>8126099
>>8125851
AGP faketrans fetishist, please.

>>8125851
How long have you been on hormones?

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>>8124858
>>8122224
>>8122224

>>8126111
yeah sure w/e idc
>>8126118
year and a half

>>8126145
How much has it changed your face?

>>8125851
You look interesting. What's your genetics and age, f a m?

>>8126148
quite a bit i would share a pic but im sure the spergs on here would make a meme of it

>>8126171
generic 22 yr old hispanic

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>>8126099
i suppose that's acceptable. you still pass and look cute.

>>8126175
Nice. How much did they change the shape of the skin over your jaw?

>>8126197
softened the muscle giving it a rounded shape and its just not as large anymore

>>8123591
nice

>>8122852
No pass for me yet

>>8126211
Wow. Thanks. That gives me a lot of hope.

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>>8126283
yup glad i could help

>>8125653
please respond.

>>8125653
you'll probably pass with longer hair. and gain some weight

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just turned 19 in this picture, 11 months hrt
>>8125851
pass
>>8125695
dysphoria sucks, you pass
>>8125653
Gain some weight and you're a little heavy on the eye makeup
>>8123772
I wouldn't clock if your voice passes
>>8123591
Eyes are pretty!
>>8123016
cute pass I think
>>8122852
lesbian
>>8122623
Experiment with different styles of clothes otherwise if you're young your hips will grow out a bit
>>8122283
pass
>>8122224
PRETTY WTF
>>8122197
yes
>>8122101
14 year old boy going through an edgy phase

>>8126643
you are a cutie

>>8126394
I'm working on both for sure. Kinda need money for the latter.

>>8126643
>Gain some weight
little hard when your monthly income is $0
>and you're a little heavy on the eye makeup
kk

>>8126643
>PRETTY WTF
angles.

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No hormones yet, just started presenting full time

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>>8126643
Absolute pass. You look like a young lady I knew in high school.

>>8126922
You look like a chubby cis-woman already. Good job. Try to lose weight before HRT. Female hormones slow metabolic rates and cause weight gain. Losing fat in male places means it'll come back in the breasts and butt. Good luck.

>>8125653
Pass as a lanky lady. Kinda cute actually.
>this is actually kinda funny, although maybe it's because I'm from the generation that didn't grow up with cross-dressing rock stars

I was in a pissed off mood already, which contributed to my reaction.

inb4 no effort
>foundation to hide beard shadow and stubble
>bra stuffed
>added Goth eye make-up to incorporate the black lipstick into my look
>about to watch Dawn of the Dead (original) while painting my nails

>>8124858
The photo is too dark for an accurate rating.

>>8127127
You looks almost normal and nice here

>>8127177
>almost
Haha. Well, golly gee.

>>8127249
Those hands are beautiful though. Fucking reply to my email your like the only person who talks to me

>>8122917
>>8114182
>>8127127
Your makeup is way too white and looks unnatural

>>8127261
Almost normal is better than some transgirls get. I'll take it.

Complimenting my hands is strange. They're gigantic. Thanks though.

>>8127389
Thanks. I'm going for a Goth look.

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>>8122283
shrek/10

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Pre hrt, potential?
Starting hormones soon :)))

>>8127829
tween vine star

>>8126643
Why wtf?

>>8127847
Because I'm jealous ;;

>>8127543
You're giving off a live KISS concert look, you wouldn't be willing to lighten your makeup just a little? at least to a skin tone?

>>8110337
>>8109784
I usually, just being honest, come to these threads to laugh at people who will never make it. As a straight white male with no empathy and who typically laughs at the people in these threads, I genuinely think you both pass.

>>8128553
in your opinion who in this thread will make it and who won't

>>8128553
>Dumbass little white boi cant see that OP is a hon wearing a wig.
Ever leave your moms basement?

>>8129040
Aren't hons supposed to be uncute? She totally passes

>>8129121
shes hiding her chin; I'm not quite sure if she passes.

>>8122101
>What gender dost this board perceive me as
lesbian adult woman, or 12~17 year old boy
>>8122224
you look very average with all that photoshop, so you must be hideous without it

>>8125851
you look like a run of the mill woman, so yes.
>>8125653
you look like a fem boy or a scene kid
if you were styled more femininely or wearing women's clothes, i'd take you for a woman