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Emergency in Chechnya

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gay men are being captured and tortured in Chechnya, you probably heard about that. LGBT Russia Network is evacuating them, but needs donations, this is an emergency situation with little time. look at this official page and think about donating, please: https://go.allout.org/en/a/chechnya/

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>>8102744
nothing of value is being lost, they're all either muslim or slav
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>>8102755
thinking like that is just like anyone who wants to kill lgbt people in general
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>>8102744
Muslims killing gays, im not surprised but most of you fags are too concerned with virtue signalling to care about your own
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>>8102805
what do you mean with "your own"?
for me, all of humanity is "my own"
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>>8102767
Um, so?
>>8102805
It's Muslims killing bad Muslims, nothing else.
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>>8102872
lol I should have known. typical 4chan reaction and discussion
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>>8102805
WTF Russia is a Muslim country now
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>>8103052
Russia is big and there are all kinds of groups in society, look it up!!

Chechnya = administrative unit of the Russian federation
Islam is the predominant religion in Chechnya, practised by 95% of those polled in Grozny in 2010.

population consits of:
Chechens
Russians
Kumyks
Avars
Nogays
Ukrainians
Armenians
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>>8102744
LGBT from Chechnya can already apply for asylum in western europe and and north america.

But in terms of feasibility of doing illegal things in Chechnya these people utterly fail at life. Laws are mostly suggestions in Russia and their surrogates lol
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this is the local strongman an tyrant there
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Don't be stupid, there aren't any gay people in Chechnya.
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>>8103487
yes but this is an intensified situation now that is happening quickly. asylum stuff takes long
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for the question about evidence, look here: https://lgbtnet.org/en/content/order-get-confession-they-beat-him-hose-and-tortured-electricity

and here: https://lgbtnet.org/en/content/news-update-lgbt-homicide-chechnya-april-14

it is up to you to donate based on that. maybe it convinces you that Obama supported the organization: https://lgbtnet.org/en/content/washington-times-obama-meets-gay-rights-activist-russia-stop
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>>8103052
Russia in general is either Orthodox Christian or non-religious. However, there are some ethnic republics in Russia with Muslim majority, most of which are in the region of North Caucasus. There are also a lot of immigrants from Central Asia, especially in big cities.
> The most recent European Social Surveys (ESS), from 2007 and 2009, found that 46% of the population of Russia declared itself non religious, 45% Eastern Orthodox, 8% Muslim, and the remaining belonged to other faiths.
Out of those republics, Chechnya has much more authonomy than others due to violent conflicts there in 1990s in 2000s. Basically, Putin's government is pumping money into the pockets of Chechnya's president(Kadyrov) in exchange for him remaining loyal to Putin and keeping relative order in the republic. It's easier than risk getting an ISIS-type rogue state at your border.
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Why is it always gay MEN who get killed ? Why is there some obsession with homosexual men and not woman ? I'm not telling they should target women, but I just don't get why they're focusing on men
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>>8102755
A Slav is way better than some Anglo subhuman. Agree about muslims though.
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>>8103879
Women can't be lesbian, as they aren't allowed to go anywhere without a male relative accompanying them.
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>>8103879
Because most of homophobic violence is perpetrated by men, and they see homosexuality as an attack on their masculinity and masculine traditional culture.
Also, society teaches men to feel repulsed by male genitals, so the very idea of men having sex causes disgust in those men, and disgust and feeling of emasculation turns to anger towards those gay men.
Lesbians don't face a similar magnitude of violence because
1) straight men like women, so imagining women having sex doesn't cause such disgust. Lesbian porn is produced mainly for straight men.
2) women are often presumed to be naturally bisexual, so lesbian activity is seen as a playful phase before the woman "grows up" and marries a man like she's supposed to. That mindset is still somewhat common at least in Japan, from what I've heard, and that's why you see so much yuri undertones in anime about schoolgirls.
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more evidence by the great newspaper The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/13/they-called-us-animals-chechens-prison-beatings-electric-shocks-anti-gay-purge?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=221737&subid=21968366&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2
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>>8102805
>you fags are too concerned with virtue signalling to care about your own
Bitch please.
99% of virtue signalling is done by rich white upperclass cishet people.
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>>8103879
The same reason why it's always MEN who die ~in general~, men are the warriors of the human race. If you're not strong enough to defend yourself you're not much of a man at all.
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>>8103498
damn he's hot. I'd worship those feet for days
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>>8104371
Too bad he only worships Allah and occasionally Putin.
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>>8104281
>white
Weird way to spell Jewish
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there was just a massive Muslim lgbt pride parade in India

the problem is cultural rather than religious
there are violent national cultures that use religious reasons to justify their actions, same with Christianity in Russia or African tribes that practice child marriages and FGM, and culture isn't an excuse, but the religion isn't the common denominator, culture is. which may still include religion as one element but is a much broader term encompassing "tradition", nationalism etc.
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>>8104371
I saw a video of him interacting with his soldiers, they are like his slaves and I am convinced there is a homoerotic component to that, he was like scratching one ont he head like a pet dog
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>>8103483
I know, I was intentionally being stupid
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>>8105801

This. Just look at the differences in Christian, Sikh and Hindu cultures across the world. Some are calm and promote peace above all else. Others will hang you for not conforming to their beliefs.
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>>8105801
>a massive Muslim lgbt pride parade in India
>Muslim
>Lgbt pride parade
>India
You're aware about how hilariously unrealistic that sounds, right?
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>>8106204

>implying there aren't Muslims in India

Not all of them emigrated to Bangladesh, y know
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>>8106222
It's the combination muslim, lgbt and India that really does it.

Like the start of a joke.
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>>8105801
Not just Africa. The Nacirema tribe in North America still practices child genital mutilation.
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Guys guys guys
Its obviously fake news
Gays don't exist remember?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/11/chechnya-denies-imprisoning-torturing-gays-claiming-dont-exist-there.amp.html
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>>8103879
In these conservative Islamic societies, women are like cattle. But they are still an extremely valuable livestock - by virtue of their wombs, women have much greater biological value compared to males, who are expendable. Because of their reproductive value, a female who shows lesbian tendencies is gently but sternly corrected. The preference is always to convert, not to damage or kill.

If females are the cattle, males are the rancher or farmer. A male is expected to find a cattle and to take the trouble of leading it, feeding it, and looking out for it. Males, compared to females, have no reproductive value, and their only value is created by their actions. Their work in service to society, and in service as a husband and father. Now whereas a cattle can be prodded and pulled back onto the path, what can be done about a farmer who just doesn't want to go out and help care for the cattle? Nothing. He can't be forced to perform his expected duties. He can only be killed, in hopes that his termination will inspire other farmers to pick up a cattle quickly and begin their work.

In other words, women can make babies no matter what, but a gay man is as useless to society as a NEET man, so remove them.
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>>8107892
is it really like this? do you have sources for that or where is the info from?
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>>8103879
Female privilege. You should know this by now.
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>>8104401
>Jewish
Most of them are white college americans/canadians/europeans, not jews.
Jews are generally only the instigators.
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>>8103835
>>8103052
>>8103483

This isnt true, there is no such thing as a white Caucasian muslim. all muslims everywhere are brown.
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there is also a petition about this, maybe more effective to make pressure?
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>>8110743
LINK https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/close_the_gay_torture_camps_loc/?rc=fb&pv=140
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>>8110405

Female privilege... in an Islamic society? Come on dude. Female privilege in places like that is having your genitals mutilated so that instead of feeling pleasure during sex you feel pain, as Allah prefers. It's the privilege of being kept as a slave. Yeah, they don't get killed. Some of them would be better off if they did, though.
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>>8114420

--I mean, they don't get killed... unless they dishonor somebody by acting like they are full people, or by simply becoming very unlucky in some way.
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>>8114420
>>8114427
How fucking dare you tell anyone they would be better off dead?
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>>8102755
>being so spooked that you won't even look out for your fellow LGBT
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OP here, so I read more about the topic and if you want to sign a petition, it is best to do it here (most effective and trustworthy): https://www.amnesty.org/en/get-involved/take-action/chechnya-stop-abducting-and-killing-gay-men/
and you can get amnesty intern official report about this here: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur46/6023/2017/en/
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>>8116255
edit: the second link gives you adresses of official representatives you can write to for making political pressure
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>>8102846
>for me, all of humanity is "my own"
over privileged bubble dweller, at least i can take comfort in the fact that life is going to hit you like a ton of bricks
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>>8114420
After accusations of female genital mutilation being performed in rural areas of Dagestan, that's what one of the religious officials of North Caucasus said in its defense:
> Ismail Berdiev, the chairman of the North Caucasus Muslim Coordinating Center, told the radio station Govorit Moskva that female circumcision is a healthy, “purely Dagestani custom.”
> “As far as I know,” Berdiev explained on air, “it's done to calm a woman's zeal somewhat. There's absolutely no health problem here.”
> “All women should be circumcised so there would be no debauchery on earth, so that sexuality is minimized,” Mr Berdiyev, a prominent figure in Dagestan, told a correspondent from Interfax, a Russian news agency.
> “The Almighty created woman to bear and raise children,” he added. “[Circumcision] would not affect that. Women would not stop giving birth. But there would be less promiscuity.”
> He went on to clarify that although Islam does not prescribe the practice, “it is necessary to reduce female sexuality. If it was done to all women, it would be very good.”
> Berdiev was responding to a new report by the organization “Russian Justice Initiative,” which found that female circumcision is practiced in the certain areas of Dagestan, one of Russia's predominantly Muslim republics in the North Caucasus. Russian Justice Initiative found cases in remote villages where girls under the age of three (and sometimes as old as 11) were circumcised.
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I'm happy desu
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>>8116255
>Amnesty International
No thanks.
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>>8114437
If there were room for them in Europe they'd be able to leave, but their rapist pedophile neighbors went in their place with 1000s of other Ethiopian and Syrian men without families.
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>>8122812
tl;dr the same thing everyone outrages over this says about boys
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>>8103052
>"I'm so surprised that shit mixes with vomit so easily!"
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Chechen here, there are no fags in Chechnya. Sorry but fake news
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>>8103879
men police gender
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>>8125031
Correction: they invent gender, in order to police it.
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>>8125031
t. feminist/misandrist
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>>8116255
>>8116295
works evrytiem
>if you listen very closely, you might hear Putput laughing over the sea
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>>8116011
>your fellow LGBT

you're just as spooked as he is m8
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