>tfw you will never transition early

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>>8101980
>tfw you will never transition late either

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>>8101980
Only certain people deserve to be transitioned early and nobody deserves to be able to transition late.

>>8101992
But if you didn't transition early, aren't you late?

>>8101980
STOP HURTING ME

>>8102011
what's your story, anon?

>>8101993
Then don't take HRT.

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>>8102022
? I started doing that 9 years ago.

>>8102061
Your parents didn't help you transition because you are illegitimately trans.

If you were legitimately trans you would have started HRT 9 years ago.

>>8101980
>tfw you will never be an early transitioning Japanese schoolgirl who gets who wear a seifuku

Why live, senpai?

>>8102084
to read doujins and write stories where you are.

>>8102018
i didnt transition early

the end

>>8102113
When did you transition? Was it successful? Why didn't you transition early?

>>8102022
Bitch, stfu, Cara needs to get on mones, now

>>8102101
I wrote that as a rhetorical question. What I actually meant to say was, should I just end my current """failed male""" life and pray that when I'm reincarnated I can actually be a real Japanese schoolgirl who gets to wear cute seifukus?

>>8102133
Only certain people deserve to be transitioned early and nobody deserves to be able to transition late.

>>8101980
trutrans are never late, nor are they early, they transition precisely when they mean to.

>>8102072
not cara but illegitimate how?

>>8102137
>should I just end my current """failed male""" life and pray that when I'm reincarnated I can actually be a real Japanese schoolgirl who gets to wear cute seifukus?
no. instead you need >>8102101

>>8102130
never
n/a
i had an opportunity at 16 but my mom ignoring me made me repress

I don't even know if 16 is considered early anymore, I'm not up to date with today's memes

>>8102158
>never
why not transition now?

>>8101980
YOU WANNA

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YOU WANNA

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YOU WANNA HOT BODY

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YOU BETTER WORK, BITCH

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SIP MARTINIS

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LOOK HOT IN A BIKINI

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YOU BETTER WORK, BITCH

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YOU WANNA LIVE FANCY

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LIVE IN A BIG MANSION

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PARTY IN FRANCE

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YOU BETTER WORK, BITCH

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>>8102171
im on it
6 years later, but im on it i guess

>>8102158
>i had an opportunity at 16 but my mom ignoring me made me repress
how could she ignore coming out as trans?

>>8102184
Glad to hear, anon. You'll make it, I'm sure! Here's wishing you the best of luck!

>>8102196
she just never talked about it again and i never had the courage to bring it up again, she just ignored me completely, probably thought it was a phase
i love my mom to death but she really did ruin my life in that sense
>>8102203
thank you anon

>>8102139
Cara exists outside the space-time continuum so she's an exception.

>>8102218
How did you change between 16 and now? If it makes you feel better, testosterone has done probably 95% of its work on most AMABs by 16.

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Im 25. My massive fear of coming out and transitioning has kept me in the closet all this time. time really slips away from you... I feel like I need to just rip it off like a band-aid and do it now, or I'll never do it. Getting older only makes it scarier. You become more and more established in your job/career. You continue to look more and more masculine... I want to do it now but I'm just so afraid.

I'm about to move to a new city in a new state. I need to use this opportunity. I refuse to continue meeting people as a male and then worry constantly about what they'll think of me if/when I transition.

sorry for blogging. I'll save it for my therapist.

>>8102158
12 is the limit to be considered an early transitioner

>>8102266
>sorry for blogging
Hey anon, don't worry about that. I'm interested in seeing what you have to say! It's scary, yeah, but I think if you're trans, it's better to just do it. Even perma boymode is better than nothing.

>>8102184
So you're illegitimately transitioning?

>>8102272
Fuck OFF Cara 16 is fine

join the femboy way of life

>>8102292
16 is late, you already look like a man at that age, stop deluding yourself

>>8102301
Depends on the person, anon. Some have barely started puberty at that age. Others are already 6'5" hulks.

>>8102282
thanks for being so nice anon

>>8102307
Let me guess, you're that tranny that says even early 20's isn't late cause """some""" people have yet to start puberty at that age. Nice try.

>>8102323
Uh, no? It's all relative to the damage T has done to your body.

>>8102301
(((lol)))
Looking like a teenage boy != looking like a man
There are 3 stages
Prepubescent, pubescent, and post-pubescent, for most males.
A male at 16 will look very different from himself at 26, let alone 36.
Yes, pre-puberty at all is optimal, though 12 is an early puberty for boys generally (my male puberty didn't start until 14), but the middle of long-term puberty is acceptable, if not ideal. Much better than after puberty at all. So yeah, the "early" cut off would be 14, the "late-early" 21, and anything later than that is Hon.

>>8102241
Not much, to be honest. Probably height and a bit of jaw but nothing that can't be worked on with makeup
im pretty tall (5'11") but naturally feminine
I'm proud about failing boymode 4 times before starting hormones

>>8102333
it's relative to the individuals genetics. some people have low t and are very petite, some people are xbox huge and hormones will not do a dent in your genetics too much. the age thing is completely irrelevant.

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>>8102338
Dr. Spack himself said that transitioning at 16 is just feminizing a completely masculinized body.

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>transition somewhat early
>get screwed by bad genes anyways

>>8102338
>the "early" cut off would be 14, the "late-early" 21, and anything later than that is Hon.
14 and 21 inclusive or exclusive?

>>8102352
that doesn't mean that everyone that transitions after that is destined to look like the rock you autism prince

>>8101998
Just on time. That's transitioning in your early 20s. You didn't impress by arriving early by you're not disappointing by arriving late. You're just on time.

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>>8102363
Regardless, it at least signal progression and that doctors are moving forward toward barring late transitioning as a whole.

>>8102333
And T is relative to age.

>>8102352

What video did he say that in?

>>8102397
The BBC documentary.

>>8102375
>what is someone's T level
>what is someone's sensitivity to T
>what is someone's genetics in regards to masculinity and height
>what is the start of puberty ranging from 9-16

you guys just keep arguing and jacking off over age like that's what really matters and not the individuals personal inherent genetic potential. do you really think that just because you started hrt at 11 that you won't grow to be a 6'1 large framed guy versus some guy that starts at 21 and is 5'5 and has a very frail build inherent to his genetic makeup? so stupid. just argue all day, never transition, set up autistic as fuck guidelines and rules about what everyone can and can't do. truly the road to happiness.

>>8102184
I'm just commenting because I found your story very similar to mine. I came out to my mom at 16 and transitioned at 22. But I didn't not transition because of my mom.

>>8102373
that would be regressive and there's no sign of doctors setting that as a precedent. just some weird obsession on your part it seems.

>>8102420
How did the transition go for you?

>>8102410
It's funny that you mention autism, because I have Asperger's (autism light) and I feel like it not only made me developmentally delayed in the brain, but also in the body by at least 2 years.

Also, it's worth mentioning that even though people might be dysphoric about a particular aspect, there are others who have it worse. My friend and his dad both went 80% bald by 21. So even though I'm dysphoric about my long chin, at least I'm not them.

>>8102422
Why would preventing fetishists from abusing transition be regressive?

>>8102373
cara if i supply the gun will you put me out of my misery

>>8102461
because your dumb ideas about transgender issues aren't relevant

>>8101980

>tfw I will never have told my mother what I was thinking as I left the hospital when I was a 3rd grader: that I want to be her daughter
>tfw my parents will never be upset at first and take me to a psych to better understand what's going on
>tfw that psych will never be a pro-trans, cis, straight person who will convince them letting me be a girl is what's best for me
>tfw we'll never start preparing for my transition by buying girl clothes and letting my hair grow, along with letting me wear girl clothes when I'm not at school
>tfw my mom will never let me play with makeup and nail polish and groom myself the way I want
>tfw my parents will never change my name (for the second time) the summer after 4th grade and work out an agreement with the school I'm transferring to to treat me as a girl and keep it secret
>tfw I will never be included with the girls when my class splits up for the talks on puberty (or sit outside, I did that when I was grouped with the boys)
>tfw I will never make lots of friends because I don't feel uncomfortable with myself and stop being mistrustful
>tfw I will never get puberty blockers at 11
>tfw I will never be in a position where nothing will have to even be said to the school when I transfer to middle school in 6th grade
>tfw I will never put more effort into my academics to get a 4.0 instead of a 3-point-something
>tfw I will never get estrogen when I'm 12
>tfw I will never enjoy family outings to places like the beach
>tfw I will never be a good sister to my brothers, standing up for them when they needed it and helping them with school and like a sister to my baby cousin
>tfw I will never take AP classes and join clubs in high school

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>>8102504
and do you know what to do now?

>>8101980
>>8102504

>tfw I will never get a better idea of what I want to do as a career and of the requirements to do it in high school
>tfw I will never not move back to the shitty city I was born in
>tfw I will never find an accepting bf when I'm a sophomore
>tfw I will never start driving in junior year
>tfw I will never get into the school I was dreaming of and get enough financial aid that I don't burden my family
>tfw I will never graduate as one of 12 valedictorians (there were 11, yes that many nerds at that school)
>tfw I will never graduate with highest honors in what I decided to study in college (well, that one I can still do, technically)

What would have really happened if I had come out back then and not given up?

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>>8102504
>>8102516
i didnt need to read this

>>8102450
Well I've been on it for 11.5 months, and I don't pass yet. Boy with boobs I guess. I'm giving hrt 2 years before judging it. Even though I feel very dysphoric sometimes, I feel like there will be hope after FFS. The only effect that's really happened (besides boobs) is I look 16, but sometimes get mistaken for 13/14. Before I looked 18.

Astonishingly, I was male-failed by an older man today, so I'll take that as a win.

>>8102544
>but sometimes get mistaken for 13/14
what the fuck
are you a midget

>>8101980
Transitioned too early to be a hon
Transitioned too late to pass
Transitioned just in time to make tranny memes

>>8102548
I'm 5' 4", so ye kindof

>>8102504
>>8102516
Ouch, anon :'( That made me feel. What was your actual story? How did your life turn out?

>>8102544
Sounds hot

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>>8102515

Yes. Make a time machine and go back to the early years of this era to find the man known as Jesus of Nazareth to get him to say something explicitly permiting people to be the opposite sex if that's how they'll feel better. In fact, perhaps get him to take it further and offer a condemnation for those people who choose to hinder any person's attempt to live as the opposite sex. Failing that, destroying the religions of Abraham in their entirety, all for the good of trans people born thereafter. So that everyone has the best possible chance to live their lives and enjoy it.

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>>8102655
>not going into the future to a time where they have pills that mothers can take to determine the sex of their child, stealing the pink ones and then going back in time to when your mother was in the early stages of pregnancy and slipping it into her food

why even time travel

>>8102769
not her but i'd rather be a cute passing transgirl than a cis woman

too bad im neither haha!

>>8101980
>tfw transitioned late at 15 instead of early at 13

Why even live

>>8101980
>tfw no dominant trans gf to fug me

>>8102808
post pics

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>>8102818
Lol I'm the only 15-year-old transitioner on this board.

>>8102834
oh, you. okay.

>>8102808
I started at 15 too, but self medded till 18. Now I'm 23.. rip

In my case, a couple years earlier would've been so nice.

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>>8101980
You all have very wrong images of transitioning, probably because most of you haven't even started yet.
I got a psuedo female puberty at 11/12 because I have a disease that made me not have a male puberty when I was 10/11, and even I think that transitioning that early isn't even a must for some transwomen. It's all about genetics and just logically thinking what masculine traits you've got and what feminine traits you've got.


I was 4'10 when I got a psuedo puberty and still am 4'10 now, but there are a lot of people who were 5'8 when they were 12/13, it's all just genetics.

>>8102834
wow, you really hit the wall

>>8102874
What does that mean? I know I don't look great, but is there some other connotation here?

>>8102879
Not them, but basically, they're saying you've become unattractive. Post-peak. It's all downhill from there, etc.

>>8102898
Oh. I don't think I ever really reached my "peak", I've always been ugly. I'm basically just waiting for FFS.

>>8102867
Do you mean you didn't self med between 18 and 23?

5'3" with good proportions but started at 21. What is even the difference between me starting now versus if I started at 25?

>>8103061
Probably nothing except maybe balding, more facial hair etc. if that's in your genetics.

The testosterone damage has already been done at 21.

>>8102139
Yes, we all know Cara is retarded and her logic is extremely flawed and contradictory.

But hopefully HRT will make her less retarded and at least diminish her shitposting, so please don't try to deter her from it.

>>8103698
>>8103061
Testosterone has done it's damage by then, yes, but estrogen can still make major changes. By 25, however, your body more or less stops being able to develop and most effects from then on are just the result of aging.

>>8103857
>Testosterone has done it's damage by then
At what point would you say testosterone has done its damage, on average? Is it 21? 18? 16?

>>8103862
Depends a lot on genetics. Most natal males start puberty around 10-12 and finish around 16-18. That said, you'll keep developing and getting more physically masculine, albeit at a slower pace, up until around 25, where aging begins. So really just whenever puberty ended for you is when most of the damage is done, so somewhere between 16 and 18. But, of course, HRT can still do good things when you start at 16-18, because you still have a little under a decade to develop with female hormones. It's not until you get to, say, 23 where things start to look dire.

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>>8101980
>tfw you almost pass
>tfw you would've passed if only you transitioned a year earlier

>>8103061
At that height, I disagree with the others and feel like you didn't hit your growth spurt yet. Good job. You either transitioned just in time or were a few years early.

>>8104192
nah, manlets do exist

>was 4'10 entering 6th grade
>naively think i want to be taller in middle school or I'll look wierd
>enter middle school 5'1 and voice dropped hard
>now 19 and 5'7" maybe 7.5/8
"But annon, thats an ok height for a cis girl"
>tfw japanese and the average height for females is 5'2"
>tfw at average male height
>tfw could have confessed to mom in elementary school and been early transitioner, but was too scared of rejection

>>8104220
5'3 is not that small lol.
I'm 4'10 and 5'3 seems like ideal cis woman height.

>>8105065
Comparing to height averages of the entire population is always dumb because it doens't take into account your age.
You should check averages per age

>>8105065
Unless you're actually in Japan that's really nothing to complain about.

>>8105065
How did you know you were trans in elementary?

>>8105582
how did you not?

>>8101980
early transitioners always have the worst personalities

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is the difference between an early transitioner and a late transitioner just a sense of shame?

though i guess loud and proud "you look gorgeous darling xoxo" hons wouldnt fit this theory...

all i know is that I made it to my mid twenties without transitioning due to an immense level of fear and shame about being trans.

>>8105680
How so?

>>8106161
they act like bio women

>>8106146
I think it has more to do with trans visibility than shame. I mean when did the term "transgender" start being used? If you're unaware it exists then you simply can't do it.

>>8106205
What's wrong with that? How does a bio woman act?

>>8106302
you have to understand that most of these people are misogynist losers who are envious of women

>>8106317
I am a misogynist but I'm not envious of women

>>8105065
How do you feel about losing that opportunity? Do you pass now at least?

>>8106302
>How does a bio woman act?
like a civilization killer

>>8106328
sure you arent

>>8106317
>envious of women
nothing there to envy

>>8106328
>I'm not envious of women
why not?

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>>8106411

>>8106411
you can't just say that on here! what do you mean?

>>8106418
>>8106425
why the fuck would I want to be dumb as shit and define myself solely by my smelly twat? or have to be so useless that I have to find someone else to take care of me, then backstab them when I get tired of them?
women are shit, it is a fact of life

>>8106471
sorry your mommy was mean to you

>>8105380
What I said was based on age, the japanese are generally short, and don't grow much.
>>8105447
It still bothers me knowing where I would/could be otherwise. Also going on vacation there next month.
>>8105582
I was into feminine things/had feminine mannerisms, but gender roles were never taught to me. I was just told I was a boy, but I didn't know what it meant to be male or female just to be a boy/myself, but as I got older to understand these things, social expectations became a thing. I didn't know what transitioning even was back then, I just wanted to dress and act as I wanted to, but feared rejection cuz I thought I was weird for wanting to.
>>8106387
I'm not sure if I regret it rn since I have a nice group of friends and relationships that might not have been built if I had transitioned early. Other than my height, it's not too bad, just need to fix up my figure a bit (waist training and shit)

>>8105369
5'3" is puny for me being born with male biology. I think it's actually under two standard deviations shorter than average male population and an inch under the female average. In spite of starting at 21 I think I at least have the means to do okay.

>>8102140
Good one mate

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>>8109181
>tfw your LoTR reference is finally recognized / appreciated.

>>8102241
>tfw the only changes from 12 to 17 was in facial hair
>>8104192
>tfw fucked by puberty even though you are 162cm
>>8108919
i'm just above that, and i'm not even that short for men.

>>8109188
i appreciated it too but I didnt say anything

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>>8106392
>civilization is built on the principles of the necrophilic patriarchy and is enslaving 90% of humanity as well as destroying the whole ecosystem
>the most radical feminists literally want to destroy civilization
What's wrong with being a civilization-killer?

>tfw when I started posting here 21 was normal and 18 was early
>tfw now even the IRL trans support group I go to is mostly <16s
idk how much longer I can hang around in trans spaces, it's getting too depressing for a hon like me

>>8109742
>idk how much longer I can hang around in trans spaces, it's getting too depressing for a hon like me
Why? What's your story, friend?

>>8106231
I mean I've been aware of it since I was 16 I've just been too ashamed and I thought it was going to get better and now I just lay in bed and want to kill myself all the time but I'd rather be dead than a tranny

>>8109742
>tfw been posting here since board was made and i was under 18
>about to turn 20 and taken 0 steps towards transition because I would be seen as a mentally ill fag

>>8109961
How has your dysphoria felt over that time? How do you relate to life while not planning to transition?

>>8109420
go home leddit

>>8109972
I learned about hormones and stuff when I was 15/16 but I was in highschool and I could ignore it sort of decently then because highschool is a joke and I just read books all day in school and then came home and watched anime or played videogames or read books. Lots of escapism.

Then I couldn't stand to look at or interact with girls though (still can't), being around them or seeing them made me too jealous but I just ignored it as best as I could.

Highschool graduation was really painful because I had to see all the girls in dresses and everyone is exciting/talking about their future but at that point I realized I pretty much didn't have a future because I'd never be able to do anything as a guy.

I've been going to community college for the last two years, don't really care about what I'm doing and the dysphoria got a lot worse because I'm expected to have a life and stuff but I don't even feel like a real person and lately the past 9 months or so suicidal urges have gotten really bad and I have a plan worked out and the means to enact it blah blah but I'm too much of a pussy to do it. I mean I'd had thoughts of wanting to suicide since I was in my early teens but it wasn't as serious as it is currently.

>How do you relate to life while not planning to transition?

I don't relate to life very well, I don't feel like a real person and I don't see myself having a future. No hobbies, interests, passions, etc. I just go to college and try to get whatever work they give me done as quickly as possible and then I sleep or listen to music or just try to forget I'm alive.

I'm supposed to graduate soon and go to a real college but I haven't even applied because I know I'm not gonna be able to deal with being around people (girls) my age in a college setting so I don't know what I'm gonna do, maybe kill myself or be homeless or pussy out.

>>8110003
Over the time you've been on /lgbt/ have your thoughts about your identity changed? What would you post about or read on the board all that time? Are you only attracted to guys?

>>8110018
>Over the time you've been on /lgbt/ have your thoughts about your identity changed?

I mean I used to come on here because I was trying to deny being trans but I'm pretty sure I'm trans now.

>What would you post about or read on the board all that time?

a lot of stuff

mostly just living vicariously through posters on here, although it's getting to me because I see people who post on here pre-hormones and now have been on hormones for 1 year or more and it's depressing

>Are you only attracted to guys?
I think so, I'm a KHV, but I can't ever see myself having sex or doing anything as a guy, I've never been that attracted to girls. So probably guys only.

>>8110051
What convinced you you were trans? Are you going to transition now.

>mostly just living vicariously through posters on here,
What's that like?

>although it's getting to me because I see people who post on here pre-hormones and now have been on hormones for 1 year or more and it's depressing
I bet...

>>8110058
>Are you going to transition now.
I'm probably going to kill myself because I'm too scared of transitioning and I feel that suicide is less shameful than transitioning.
>>mostly just living vicariously through posters on here

depressing

Seeing people actually live their life and progress and stuff is very sad when I've basically done the same thing and stagnated since I was 15/16 years old.

>>8110115
Don't feel ashamed anon. Come out and try to find a life that you can enjoy. Maybe try dating? Why can't you see yourself doing anything with a guy?

>when I've basically done the same thing
What do you mean?

>>8110155
>go to school
>come home
>stay in dark room by myself engaging in escapism
>repeat

>>8110161
Find better escapism? Crossdress, pretend to be a girl online and find a bf who treats you like one.

>>8110288
Crossdressing doesn't help when you just look like a guy.

And all that hinges on having a job and a life and stuff. I'm basically just sad loser who lives in their parents basement and I don't think I could ever move towards anything if I wasn't at least moving towards not being a guy but that will never happen so we're stuck at square 1.

>>8109961
>>8110315

Just start hormones, senpai. Just think of it as aesthetic choice to becoming a femboy and that you're not really transitioning.

>>8102834
U look like u started at 20

I guess genes really are more important

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>>8114316
Yep. Just medically transition and ignore the social transition. There was never a requirement to come out. Hide the boobs with an unbuttoned button up shirt. No one will know.

t. femboy

>>8110000

How did the reddit to leddit thing even start?

>>8118350
I'm not sure but I'm assuming it has something to do with the phrase "le reddit / the "le reddit armie " meme. "leddit" = condensed version of the former.

>>8102504
why was your name changed the first time, just curious

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>>8102504
What would happen if you focus on the positive instead of the negative?

>>8102569
Curious as well. Don't leave us hanging, anon!