/legbutt/ dating - toxic for all groups?

I know you just said bis need not apply but I'm curious about other bisexual people's dating habits. Personally I prefer to only date other bisexuals because I feel like I don't have to explain anything and we can just be open with no butthurt. Am I weird or do other bis know this feel?

>>8085754
this is a simple numbers game op. how many men that are straight wish they could get that much pussy instead of boy pussy? hint'; almost all of them. only with boypussy you don't have to appease a womans different values and priorities. like minded men will find easier casual sex. Women cheat too, but us lesbians have real issues with domestic violence, moving into the relationship too quickly because both partners want stability even if they aren't a good match, and bis tend to be into the lesbian scene but leave lesbians to date men, making us bitter, clingy and suspicious. Couldnt tell you how much or not as much promsicuity is going on in lesbian relationship.s but all this boils down to what naturally happens when men and women target eachother with the same goals in mind that where adapted to work with the opposite sex. Gay marriage is the chemo no one wants though.

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>>8085754
you've been brainwashed into thinking that chastity is a good thing.
marriage is only important when there are children involved.
newsflash: men are horny
fuck off with your moralizing

>>8085754
>So what is dating like for lesbians and trans


>tfw you've only been in one real relationship your entire life.

I-it's great!

>>8085772
>this is a simple numbers game op. how many men that are straight wish they could get that much pussy instead of boy pussy? hint'; almost all of them. only with boypussy you don't have to appease a womans different values and priorities. like minded men will find easier casual sex.

Too true but where does that leave people who actually want something substantial though? At some point I like to think that eventually someone would want to be with me on the long term, and I don't have to be extra cynical and just hope he isn't after my bussy.

>Women cheat too, but us lesbians have real issues with domestic violence, moving into the relationship too quickly because both partners want stability even if they aren't a good match,

Is that actually true? I honestly thought this was just another meme and points for the gay vs lesbian shitflinging I've seen in the past. Damn sorry to hear it's like that.

>and bis tend to be into the lesbian scene but leave lesbians to date men, making us bitter, clingy and suspicious.

No different than gays then.

>Couldnt tell you how much or not as much promsicuity is going on in lesbian relationships but all this boils down to what naturally happens when men and women target eachother with the same goals in mind that where adapted to work with the opposite sex. Gay marriage is the chemo no one wants though.

I wish more heteronormative standards were prevalent as I'd be really curious to see how gay dating is, hopefully not the cesspool that it is now. But that's absolutely true though.. legbut marriage IS the chemo no one wants.

>>8085798
>t. Thot

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>>8085845
>slut-shaming

it's not my fault you can't get laid, honey

>>8085869
but it's your fault that your dad didn't hug you

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>>8085877
>Amateur Psychologist has heard of Freud

My Dad did hug me.
That has nothing to do with why I like to fuck men.

>/legbutt/ dating - toxic for all groups?

>>8085877
>>8085869
>>8085845
>>8085798
>>8085882

>hmmmmmm..

>>8085869
ayy fucking lmao

Not an argument, thot.

All that cum is seeping into your brain because it's clearly causing mild retardation. If you think "lol you can't get laid" is a feat then I have bad news for you buddy, especially considering I've been with my bf for four years, retard.

>>8085883
Hey I wanted to have a decent discussion thread, then anon started shitposting.

fun fact: all men are sluts, gay or straight. take women out of the equation and you literally have a fuck-for-all

men are p shit tbqh desu. that's why i prefer women

Lots of the gays I see posting on the internet or in my circle of friends complain about this. There definitely are gays that want a relationship just like there are straight men who don't want to fuck around. I guess the burden is on you to find the telltales of the outliers.

>>8085754
>So what is dating like for lesbians and trans? Is your scene as fucked as ours?
Speaking as both, I can't even have a dating scene yet ;_;

>>8085902
woah I'm a totally monogamous demisexual motherfucker

>>8085978
He/she is right though.

>>8085970
Well, shit. Are you MTF or FTM? Either way, before you transitioned what was it like (assuming you were lesbian "first")?

>>8085920
I find this extremely hard to believe. I've only heard one person have similar complaints like myself. Again my experience has been like 90% just want some dick and the 10% that aren't anywhere near here.

>>8085902
this. kill all men.

>>8085902
what about the growing section of men in industrial societies who are non-religious and celibate

>>8086148
lol wut

>>8086113
Play video games, I know a tonne of gay dudes who game

OSRS is like a fag haven or something

The entire concept of dating renders the process of getting to know someone entirely sterile and turns it into a contest to see who is in a better position to judge the other.
>Well how else are you supposed to meet people?
I don't know, and I'm not saying dating doesn't work, it's just not for people who are very deep or complicated, it's for normalfags. So it will be doubly hard for lgbt people who also have a much smaller pool of people to choose from.

>>8085902
>men are p shit tbqh desu. that's why i prefer women

This is as dumb as men who go gay because muh feminism. You would like women regardless, because I'm bi but prefer men even though I accept that both men and women are utter shit 99/100 times.

>>8086219
>it's just not for people who are very deep or complicated, it's for normalfags
This is something I had been thinking about for a while. But what are your reasons to believe that? I want to compare them to mine.

>>8086321
>But what are your reasons to believe that?

I mean I don't use social media for the same reasons. Most people just use their profiles to post their political views/quirks and they generally have a warped perception of themselves that comes through after meeting them and makes them come off as self-centered hypocrites/fake. It's just not a good scene if you are looking for something long-term. And the people that aren't, generally have mental problems and have no business advertising themselves as available.

>>8086330
Yeah, that's basically what I thought/experienced. It's hard meeting someone on dates when you're too different from the norm.
> tfw met current bf on 4chan

>>8086113
MTF, don't pass yet. My options for people who'd actually want to date me are gay guys (FUCK no) or straight girls (who I'd lose down the line). Odds of someone who'd stick with me are infinitesimal, especially where I live.

>>8085902

This is a common myth promoted in feminist circles.

They think they can dye their hair purple, be healthy at all sizes, don't shave their armpit, don't bath, treat men like shit and that they will still be after them.


Luckily men have porn.

>>8086219
>>8086321
you people are idiots, dating is litterally just people hanging out to get to know eachother, you dont have to have dinner and a movie.

>>8087058
Dating is fucking someone before you get to know them like it's a drug you need to live.

>>8087101
And god forbid you want to take things slow, people don't have time for that these days, especially those busy well-to-do millenials.

>>8086219
>I don't know, and I'm not saying dating doesn't work, it's just not for people who are very deep or complicated, it's for normalfags.

The fuck is this non-sense? The reason you date is because you want to get to know another person and see where things will lead to.

I've talked to far many faggots who prefer to have sex first and then date, and then when I press for more info why it basically boils down to "hurr shit sex = shitty person". Literally the most fucking retarded logic and reasoning ever.

>>8086788
>>8086224
>implying the majority of men aren't shit

jesus fuck what is this? op even mentioned he has had some really bad experiences with other faggots, something that presumably wouldnt happen if he stuck with women. that to me is another anecdotal evidence because men DO shitty things to get laid

>>8087394
>omething that presumably wouldnt happen if he stuck with women

Just what in the hell makes you think that?

>>8087370
>The reason you date is because you want to get to know another person and see where things will lead to.

On the premise that they impress you enough to convince you to fuck them? Don't act like it's this unconditional, pressure-free situation that facilitates any kind of organic interaction.

>FTM

One of my exes was always trying to get me to act way more masculine than comes naturally for me, all the sudden after coming out I had to fulfill this really masculine role to be considered a guy in his eyes, and he would get moody when I wouldn't copy whatever he told me was proper behavior for a man. He wasn't very masculine himself nor was he my dad so idk what the hell his reasoning was. Perhaps he was bitter that I grew up being treated leniently by people due to growing up as a girl and he was mad at the idea that I could just waltz into being seen as a man without the years of hazing from society that typically comes with growing up as a boy. I guess being harassed into manliness by both men and women is literally part of the male experience but it's a shit part that should end so I just don't go along with it, which seems to have pissed him off. He would also try to hint all the time that I was only doing it because I didn't like women's gender roles or because I was sexist.

I made sure the next guy I dated was not obsessed with gender roles and it's been nice.

>>8087441
he sounds like a pussy that didn't get beat up enough

>>8087409
And some how you think that the reverse is any better?

Dating can be stress free if you actually ride the tide instead of being against it. The need to "impress" doesn't exist if there's an existing attraction and if there isn't, then don't fucking force one. You must be operating on some different mindset that dating -> sex, which isn't necessarily the case.

>>8087478
There is no reverse. You just meet people, without the subtext that if one of you isn't good enough for the other, you stop wasting each other's time.

No one in that situation is going to feel good about themselves until they know they've locked something down, so they are going to put on airs. I don't get how you don't see this.

>>8086788
>>8087394

I didn't say that men aren't shit. I was just pointing out that they have a minimum standard, below that threshold they won't fuck, no matter how slutty they are.

>>8087525
>below that threshold they won't fuck

Unless there's a penis ofc.

>>8087525
>I was just pointing out that they have a minimum standard, below that threshold they won't fuck, no matter how slutty they are.
this applies to literally everyone who has standards. It's a pretty vapid statement.

>>8087498
>There is no reverse.

Then what exactly are you even fucking talking about. Essentially what you described in your first post is what dating should be, just without the title.

How and where do people who are "very deep and complicated" interact or meet, respectively? You then go on to say "Dating is fucking someone before you get to know them like it's a drug you need to live". This is literally the reverse of dating; fucking then seeing how it goes. The only difference here isn't your view of needing to impress someone being the lifeline, but the actual sex.

>>8087570
Now you just seem pissed off at the idea that I went so far as to suggest dating meat market culture is for shallow idiots. Why don't you come back to this thread when it actually gets you somewhere?

>>8085754
I don't have a bracelet, does it mean I'm straight??!

>>8087370
Agreed. This might currently be a deeply unfashionable opinion, but there's no goddamn way I'm having sex with a complete stranger.

>shit sex = shitty person
Well this is bad news. I've not had sex in bloody ages and may well have actually forgotten how. If any future relationship is hinging on the sex being anything other than terrible that first time, then I'm fucked in more ways than one...

>>8087596
It's like riding a bike, as in, if you manage to be bad at it you have no motor skills whatsoever.

>>8087576
>hurr u sound mad

No, it's more like your argument is shit and isn't properly thought out/formed. Explain it properly, instead of just giving a convenient excuse. I'm well aware of the difference between what dating should be versus what it is. You then went out to say some pretentious drivel and refused to explain it.

Here's your chance.

>>8087101
>>8087111
>durr fucking on a first date
okay, what planet are you from and second of all never bring anyone from there to here.

>>8087613
If your only argument is that the dating scene doesn't meet your standards and needs to undergo "reform" I've got news for you buddy, its only going to get worse. Maybe 30 years ago it was more of an honest thing, but it's turned into hookup culture and fighting it will just make people think you're an ass.

>>8087620
>no explanation whatsoever
>all this shitpost

ayy lmao

>>8087613
don't hold your breath for this idiot, hes one of those retards who thinks an ideal causes shit behavior instead of the people.

>>8087610
except biking and having sex are both skills that can be learned.

neither of these is a measure of a person's character or worth. wtf

>>8087628
No you're right, that's why you keep getting dumped. Just keep trying fampai, your special someone is on okcupid somewhere.

>>8087640
>No you're right, that's why you keep getting dumped.

lmao top retarded. I've been with my bf for four years, try again.

>>8087629
Dully noted, anon proved himself to be an actual retard.

so what ARE other legbutts opinions on that? do you prefer to fuck first or wait?

hella curious desu

>>8087720
using people is fun and socially acceptable, why would anyone think otherwiser?

>>8087610
Like riding a bike, huh? Touchy analogy, that one. Never actually learned to ride a bike. Father too busy drinking or something else equally reprehensible. Am now consequently doomed to a loveless existence, apparently. Fuckin' lol.

>>8087720
Love is more important than fucking

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>>8087756
>Never actually learned to ride a bike. Father too busy drinking or something else equally reprehensible.

Dude. Nobody has to be present, just get on the bike and move, holy kek.

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