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Okay so I'm mtf and I was just wondering like when you search for trans girls is it for relationships??? Or is it a purely sexual thing like a fetish that you just want to explore???? I'm not bashing or anything Im just genuinely curious. Are there chasers who don't want the penis and just want the trans girl or is it all shenis related or male fail fetish stuff??? Are bi dudes who dated trans girls the same does the shenis make it better for you??
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>>8058824
you fucked up the pic
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>>8058835
I know I was just looking at that:/ hopefully this ones better
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>>8058850
I like how it's making fun of both of them, that's actually kinda funny.
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>>8058880
Not OP, but is it weird if I have the top part of the pic. It describes my relationship with my bf to a T. I'm honestly blessed
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>>8058888

Story, senpai.
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>Are there chasers who don't want the penis and just want the trans girl

Yes, definitely. I don't want to know about your cock
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>>8058908
What separates the trans girl from cis girls aside from the penis?
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>>8058931
Not him but in my experience they are better people in general. Maybe the suffering just made them become humble and grateful for most things and not bitch as much as cis girls.
Also they are better are videogames.
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>>8058949
Only the bi and lesbian ones.
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>>8058888
first of, fuck you, I'm jealous. Second, we need a green text.
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>>8058888
Am op and your hella lucky!! Ugh I would love a bf like that.
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I'd rather date a trans woman than a cis woman. It's not a shenis thing [spoiler]I just don't care for vaginas[/spoiler]
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>>8059020

I think for most trans girls, that's just as bad. The girls who don't like their penises are the majority if not entirety of girls that want SRS.
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>>8058824
I personally find mtfs and feminine guys attractive for reasons unknown to me.

It's not really a porn thing, as I watch any category of porn (gay/straight/lesbian, though trans porn is probably still my favorite) but I could only see myself in a relationship with an mtf or feminine guy.

I don't think I fit the stereotype of a chaser really, I don't want to be fucked (I am a strict top, though I do like giving oral) and I would be okay with my gf getting srs (though I wouldn't want her to get it now because I feel like it won't be long until it's perfected and I'd rather wait for that).

Mtfs/fem guys generally have a very feminine and subby demeanor and generally have more masculine interests due to male socialization, and that fits what I want in a partner.

tl;dr idk but I like bp :^)

t. bi male chaser with mtf gf
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>>8058824
I want a trans girlfriend i prefer trans women over cis

Penis plus cute/sexy girl look is part of the attraction so i'm in it for that too i like trans women more becuase they are really hot when they are hot 100% passing is unlikely so i'm cool with girls who mostly pass or look trans but are still hot i like looks from cute to full bimbo mode. Carmen Carrera is a good example of visually what I like, but my taste are verried

I like the combination of masculine and feminine features in a person who has a feminine energy/personality. I find i'm attracted to cis women who look like that as well.

Trans women are better in bed from my experience been with 21 trans women so far and i'm only 23
Better personalities too.

Most of my friends are female assigned at birth two are trans men, many of the friends are lgbt i want a girlfriend who's not homophobic or transphobic.

Only interested in trans women i sexually mesh with if she is post op that's cool but i only want to date a girl is who non-op or already post op when i meet her.

pic related she doesn't pass but i'd date her if i liked her personality and we had good sexual chemistry (I like latinas and have a lower threshold for latin girl's passing than other groups)
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>>8059413
How the hell could you date someone with that face? Chasers are fucking crazy, just degrade us already.
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>>8058824
Im kind of a lame person my self but still have some primal "savior" complex where im suppose to help someone out of some sort of predicament in their life.
im mostly attracted to women but feminine boys can also get me going so the 'shenis' sexually speaking isnt a selling point or deal breaker
These chaser memes might even add to the complex... Make me want to find some not quite passable trans girl who wants someone to love them.. I dont know.
I clocked a "girl" on the bus once and I saw myself in the way she avoided eye contact with people... I just want to make someone like that feel pretty feel wanted feel like they are actually getting where they are where they are working on getting.
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>>8059413
What if she doesn't want anal?
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>>8059460
probably wouldn't work i'm a top but i do really like everything else really into kissing,cuddling,mutual masturbation,69 and other mutual oral.
Frottage(penis to penis rubbing) is goat.
So it's possible
>>8059433
becuase i can but also i was trying to make a point about what i like on the low passing scale pic related is more my type
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>>8058888
>>8058983
>>8058891
>had an internet boyfriend like that and we were about to meet
>he was also also a literal millionaire
>i broke up with him
>I feel fucking retarded but at the same time i don't regret it
what the fuck is wrong with me reeee
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>>8059436
I agree with this post
I too have a savior complex and part of the attraction is that I could be a good,decent non abusive boyfriend for somone who hasn't been given a chance becuase they are trans and not taken seriously weather they are really attractive or not so much
>>8059433
>>8059514
another point i forgot to make is that make is girls like the one i posted would probably satisfy my savior complex but literally any trans girl would even very passable ones
before i had a strong preference for trans women I found myself attracted to broken women and druggies so it's pretty great to find a much safer group to be attracted too
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>>8059436
>>8059568
>I just want to make someone like that feel pretty feel wanted feel like they are actually getting where they are where they are working on getting.
>I could be a good,decent non abusive boyfriend for somone who hasn't been given a chance becuase they are trans and not taken seriously weather they are really attractive or not so much

I know there is more to the savior complex that I should be worried about but I haven't figured it out yet, but I really want to feel wanted and loved as a not really passing trans woman I would love to know someone wants to be around me and not treat me like an oddity....idk
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>>8059413
>Penis plus cute/sexy girl

And that is why trannies won't date you.
You are supposed to ignore the penis, never touch it or look at it, and pretend it's not there, and pretend that she is 100% fully a woman and nothing else, not now or ever before, and that you simply choose not to defile her vagina with your touch or gaze, and that you simply choose never to think about pregnancy or periods or breasts, and get a boner for women and women's bodies, but not for boobs or butts or vaginas.
You know, just like you'd treat a regular girl! (I am rolling my eyes, by the way)

If any part of you recognizes that she's trans and somehow you still want her real, present body and/or mind, you're a fucking shit scum chaser who should kill himself.
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>>8058824
I don't know if I'd date a trans girl because a lot put on this "I want my perfect white knight" facade, but are really just huge sluts on the inside... and I don't date sluts. (I'd ignore a shenis, but I'm not sure if I could deal with a memegina)
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>>8059229
Out of curiosity, would you get with a ftm twink?
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>>8058824
I think there is something beautiful in someone who puts in so much effort to be who they are.

I like the comic. It shows how ridiculous and absurd a lot of people's expectations are, on both sides of the coin.
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>>8059598
don't worry i'm sure the trolls will come with a text wall of why we are worst than Hitler in a matter of hours
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>>8059684
worse*
horrible mistake number 1
>>8058850
check her facebook out it's full of funny comics
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>>8059549

>Had an LDR boyfriend who I thought was like the guy in the comic
>then I found out he had no expectation that I would ever get SRS because I said I only wanted it once it's possible to have an actual vagina from stem cells (this just rubs me the wrong way even if he might be right that it won't happen in time for me)
>I changed my mind and decided I wanted SRS anyway, so we broke up (not that we were exclusive because we had never even seen pics of each other)
>he said who really knows where he'll end up because of the law school decisions he'll have to make and said he's been talking to a girl on FB along with some other stuff
>He offered FWB if I changed my mind or something and I was left wondering if he meant anything he said in the beginning
>didn't even bother responding because I'm not interested in casual relationships and the message I sent beforehand was meant to be my goodbye
>thought that FB relationship of his was going well, but I saw a post not that long ago by an anon from the same city (tenuous connection, I know) saying he needs to find himself a gf

Whatever. I was too ugly to go meet him anyway. The lesson I learned is that LDRs are a waste of time. Which I suspected beforehand because as I said, I'm too ugly. At least if I start a relationship locally, the guy will have seen my face so I'm not worrying if I'll disappoint him.

Despite the other stuff, I hope he's doing well on getting into law school and he becomes the successful lawyer he wants to be. Hopefully he's not suffering from sexual frustration too badly either.
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You would think trannies are the crazy ones, and while they might have some BPD, bio females are always fucking psychopaths no exceptions.
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>>8059692
>At least if I start a relationship locally, the guy will have seen my face so I'm not worrying if I'll disappoint him.
This is why I ended mine. It was just too much pressure.
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>>8058824
You know how some people are into black guys? Or white girls? Or butch girls? It's like that - some people are just into trans. It's unfortunate and understandable that what chasers find attractive is exactly what trans girls dislike about themselves
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>>8059749
Don't feel like that, really. We have already decided we like you.

It hurts when someone is afraid to let you love them.
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>>8059692
That guy sounds pretty bad. Definitely not the right kind of person. Law school is overrated.. massive debt, no guaranteed job.

Be attracted to actual lawyers, not to law school students. A sea of difference.


Don't be afraid of 'being too ugly' or afraid of them seeing your face. I doubt you look like some hobgoblin, and are instead freaking out over minute details of your facial appearance that you are afraid show signs of testosterone.. this isn't some third reich racial purity test. Jeez.
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>>8059822
This

Any guy that's gonna be okay dating a trans is gonna be bi or at least slightly gay and won't give a shit about a few Andro features

You're not gonna find some prince charming is 100% straight and legit thinks you're a girl with a cock
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>>8059868
Guy who has had several cis girlfriends and would be interested in dating (not just fucking, but real dating) a mtf here:

I used to be hard straight in my early teens but I really am rather bi. I like vaginas and the female body overall, but I also like cocks, at least as much. No question. I also recognize that cock does not equal guy. I don't like guys, but I like cocks.

A girlcock on a trans girl is nice. It is one of the appeals of a mtf trans girl, but not the reason to date one. If she wanted to remove/replace it, I would be a little disappointed, but she doesn't just exist for my pleasure. If it makes her more comfortable and happy, then she should go for it.
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>>8059749

Are you >>8059549 or someone else? Maybe it would have been better to show your face in your case, who knows, perhaps he would have thought you were cute. I understand the fear of showing your face and then having him back out because he had an entirely different image in his mind, but if the alternative to showing your face is ending the relationship, the best thing to do when you take your fear of embarrassment out of the equation is sending him a picture. Otherwise, you might have what-ifs. I don't have the what-if problem, because you can see from what I said there were fundamental differences that were going to come up and end our relationship even if we had gotten physical.

>>8059813

It's kind of different when all your communication has been through text. I'm sure some guys might have some idea that they're talking to some Sue Lightning or Cornflakes tier tranny who's too BDD to see how cute she is. But some of us are actually as bad as we perceive ourselves and the hard part is none of us can tell which group we are in because of the BDD issue. None of us want to get our hopes up and then get an, "Uh, I have to... to get to work soon. Umm, I'll get back to you after." Then get a message like maybe he wasn't ready to start a relationship or he found someone else.

Maybe a guy would be willing to settle if they at least communicated through voice chat and the girl sounded cute before seeing each other's faces. Or maybe a good voice would strengthen the image he has of a cute girl and he's thrown for an even bigger loop when he sees she's a hon.
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>>8059947
Yeah, don't think that way. If we show interest, we like you.

It's nothing to do with false expectations like your cornflakes example or whatever. We. Like. You.

Do you need him to place soft kisses all over your cheeks or what? What amount of affirmation will alleviate your fears? I'm guessing none. You have to realize that the issue is in your insecurities and not on your face.

I would definitely do the soft kisses on your cheeks thing. Just saying.
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>>8059822

>Definitely not the right kind of person. Law school is overrated.. massive debt, no guaranteed job.
>Be attracted to actual lawyers, not to law school students. A sea of difference.

Yeah, I've heard about the oversaturation in law and the working for pennies doing discovery while buried in debt. But I wasn't interested in the money anyway. I think having too much of it can be a negative influence on children, which he and I talked about. I don't even expect to find a guy who will help pay for my FFS. As for his chances, his father's a VP at quite a large multinational, so I'm sure he could get in at a good corporate law firm as long as he does well at law school. I don't think he ever told me if he wanted to specialize in corporate law though.

I don't live that far from NYC, so if I were a gold digger I would probably hang around in the financial district trying to look cute, hoping the next guy to try to get my number works at some company over there.

My brow bone and chin definitely show the effects of virilization, but I don't know if they're at the point a guy could overlook them.

>>8059961

You're saying that just off of what I've posted here, you think I'm cute enough to kiss?
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>>8058824
>>8059436
Yeah, savior complex applies to me as well. Mostly due to my own insecurities, depression, and general lack of purpose. I want someone who needs me more than I need them. Someone to rely on me for emotional support, sex, to help break an addiction, etc, to validate my existence. Mtfs fulfill that role as a fantasy even though I know the "virgin mtf desperate for a boyfriend" stereotype is just a meme. Physically the penis does nothing for me, but as long as it's feminine it doesn't bother me.
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>>8060062
Sure you are. Relax. You need to quit the mad anxiety.
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>>8060179
>Mostly due to my own insecurities, depression, and general lack of purpose.
But as an mtf the whole point in dating a man is that he has the stability and purpose to make up for my lack in those areas!
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>>8060217
We all have insecurities and depression.
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>>8060225
I know but it means I'll never have a partner who can look after me as much as I need.
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>>8060179

>"virgin mtf desperate for a boyfriend" stereotype is just a meme

It seems true enough to me from browsing /lgbt/. Unless part of that stereotype is that they're also cis tier and cute. In which case, yeah, those don't exist because those traits don't go together.

>>8060196

I forgot to add on to the end of that if you're one of the savior complex guys. Also, what you said just now reminded me of my ex-bf. Although he wouldn't have used "mad" and he might have used "autism" instead of "anxiety." I kind of miss him now. =/

>>8060217

The savior complex often comes from having a pretty bad situation yourself. Maybe it's a desire to be saved that isn't fulfilled, but you at least want to make someone else's life better and make yourself feel good that way.
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>>8060269
>Maybe it's a desire to be saved that isn't fulfilled,
So the same as a repressed mtf playing boyfriend for a girl...
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>>8058824
>>8058850
>>8059691
>check her facebook out it's full of funny comics
lol, true
liked it and marked as "see first"
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>>8060292
>>8060269
>Maybe it's a desire to be saved that isn't fulfilled

Can't speak for anyone else but I don't feel that way about myself. "Being saved" would just make me feel like a burden.
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>>8060269
I'll save you, pretty creature.


>>8060321
You can't be saved or save people. You just have a relationship and understand that people aren't ideal or perfect, ever.

People take life way too seriously. Relax.
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>>8058824
is this your thread eddie, a fucking thousand question marks.
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>>8058824
2. purely sexual thing like a fetish that you just want to explore
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>>8058824
Why do you chase attractive guys? Is it because you like them for their looks and penis size? If it was just about being male there should be no issue.

All you "chaser"fags need to fuck off. People are allowed to have preferences and standards. Newsflash, you have them too.
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>>8058850
the chasers fairytale is getting fucked in the ass at the end
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>>8058824
>when you search for trans girls is it for relationships?
Typically I look for a trans (or cis) girl that I find attractive, then I meet up with them to see how they fit into my life. I am old enough to know you cant go around "looking" for a bf/gf. You have to meet people, get to know them, etc before you can really determine how they fit into your life.

Thats why all of the "GIVE ME BF NAO!!!!!" threads are super fuckin cringe. It really screams that your life is complete and utter shit if you are acting like that. People that actually have serious relationship experience know that they arent all they are cracked up to be, and its a whole lot better being single than being in a bad relationship.

>Or is it a purely sexual thing
Purely sex? If its just gonna be purely sex and leave then you might as well stay home and jerk off to porn. Once you start having sex you start to really get to know a person and down the rabbit hole you go.... its never as simple as "just sex" at least not for me anyway.

>Are there chasers who don't want the penis and just want the trans girl.....?
Are there guys who dont want the pussy and just want the cis girl? If you transliterate the sentence it makes very little sense to the vast majority of males. Its a package deal..... be very wary of those that tell you what they think you want to hear.

>>8059460
>What if she doesn't want anal?
To qualify as a woman you have to have a minimum of 2 holes willing to accept cock :^)

Just transliterate it. What if a cis girl doesnt want to do vaginal? Seems pretty fucking retarded. Sounds like you might need a girlfriend not a boyfriend tbqh.

>>8059647
>pretend it's not there
LUL xD
Its mainly a meme perpetuated by autistic virgin trannies. Once a trans girl is comfortable with you she wants to orgasm like everybody else, vast majority cant/wont top tho.

>>8059798
>dat pic
These bitches spillin Ace on my sick J's
LUL xD

>>8060442
Maybe you just attract fags hon xD
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>>8060813
>chaser talking about cringe
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>>8060874
Yeah and what? You got something else smart to say? We both know you are a coward IRL, so just go ahead and let it out online buddy (:
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>>8060882
>We both know you are a coward IRL,
???
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>>8058824
>when you search for trans girls is it for relationships??? Or is it a purely sexual thing
relationship, i'm not aroused by the 'trans status' or the fucking benis, it's just that transgirls are often more bashful, reserved, many also don't mind traditional gender roles and some even support it, that's really attractive nowadays.

most cisgirls i've been with were too outgoing and way too "liberated" (the pic related kind of "female liberation")

>Are there chasers who don't want the penis and just want the trans girl or is it all shenis related or male fail fetish stuff?
i'm not attracted to the dick and most definitely wouldn't want to suck or get fucked by it, but i'd rather date a pre-op transgirl over a post-op transgirl, the idea of a neo-vagina creeps me out ever since i've watched la piel que habito

i'd date a post-op transgirl too as long as she bottoms. the nature of the SRS vagina disturbs me too much, but that's just me
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>>8060999
>it's just that transgirls are often more bashful, reserved, many also don't mind traditional gender roles and some even support it,
oh yes please!
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>>8060999
Why did that movie turn you off it? The fact that it was forcibly given to him?
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>>8061025
>The fact that it was forcibly given to her?
FTFY
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>>8061087
Hm, well I guess you're kinda right, since it seemed like she turned into a transbian at the end there.
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When I hear chasers I'm never sure whether it's bug chasers, chubby chasers, or trans chasers that is meant.

My first thought is always the first one and I get to wondering just how degenerate this board is for a moment.
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>>8058850

It's funny because if you flip the scenarios and change the reactions, they become the quintessential trans girl/chaser nightmares.

>meet a girl
>have lots of fun together
>have genuine feelings for her
>find out she's a lying man
>feel deceived and gay

>flirt with a guy
>things get hot and heavy
>all you want is a shot at a normal one night stand
>disclose that you're a tranny
>die
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>>8061178
Neither dreams nor nightmares are real.
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>>8058824
Basically my first interactions with MtF's was as a chaser. I was looking for trans sex and not relationships. Met a couple of MtF's for sex, enjoyed myself but no relationship.

Later when I was actually looking for a relationship I felt a trans woman would be fine... I didn't want kids, enjoyed the sex I had with MtF's, they weren't psycho so I was open to dating one with an eye towards a relationship.
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>>8060349
Op here no not Eddie but I am another Mexican mtf!!!!!!!!!!!

>>8060813
>People that actually have serious relationship experience know that they arent all they are cracked up to be, and its a whole lot better being single than being in a bad relationship.
Yea for sure, even though I really want a relationship, I'd be willing to wait for the right guy but it's just really hard as an mtf my pool of guys is really small.

>Are there guys who dont want the pussy and just want the cis girl? If you transliterate the sentence it makes very little sense to the vast majority of males. Its a package deal..... be very wary of those that tell you what they think you want to hear
Yea I get that, but sometimes you see chasers post on here how they looove feminine benis on an almost weird level you know??? I totally understand if a guy dates me he would know what I have but not obsess over it, and not want to take it up up the ass because I'm not doing that

>>8060999
>it's just that transgirls are often more bashful, reserved, many also don't mind traditional gender roles and some even support it, that's really attractive nowadays
That's totally me besides maybe the gender role thing but I would like to be a wife someday for sure just in one of those cool marriages were we both work and stuff
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>>8058850
I like the subtle eyeliner on the guy in the Trans Girl fantasy. Nice touch.
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>>8058850
>men are men and women are women
shocking truth.
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Plenty of chasers are in it for a relationship. I'm not strictly a trans chaser (right now I'm interested in a particular cis girl), but my rules are the same regardless. I want someone who could eventually become my wife.
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>>8062131
same
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I am a bi girl and i seriously would love to have a relationship with a trans girl, i could teach her about make-up, we could shop together and all that kind of stuff and ofc since i am bi i would like to have seks with a girl with a dick but most of all i really want to have a relationship
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I would have no problem with going out with a Trans

And if the Trans look like this much better
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I used to date trans women until i found out they're huge sluts who don't want to settle down. now i just fuck. i don't mind the dick ill suck and swallow, i wont take it in the ass.
Dating a trans doesn't make you gay or bi.
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>>8063867

You would have to be one good-looking mother fucker to get with a girl on Somik's level.
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>>8060813

>You have to meet people, get to know them, etc before you can really determine how they fit into your life.

But you can do that as friends w/o benefits.
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>>8061014
>Oh, Carth, I would have never thought that you are a romantic type of guy!
Come here bend over let me show you how romantic I can be :3

Nah I have my moments, on the romantic scale I would say I am probably a 6.2/10. I tend to shy away from campy meme tier romantic stuff (like bringing you a Rose on the first date) because I view it as inauthentic and manipulative. I do try to learn what my girl likes, be thoughtful, and put a smile on her face tho.

>>8063834
Awww you wanna have a cute little doll you can dress up and make fuck you? Thats so creepy... I mean CUTE ! thats so cute !
xD

>>8068640
>But you can do that as friends w/o benefits.
I never said you cant, some people certainly can.
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>>8058824
Do people actually meet their partners at the supermarket? What is this meme?
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>>8058824

Ive been dating a transgirl for almost 2 years now. she is very much my girlfriend and will stay with her when she decides its time for SRS. But I absolutely love that she has a tiny little penis right now and I am going to make the most of enjoying it while she still had it.
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>>8071847
So sad man ;-;
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>>8063834
Wow, please let me be that trans girl.
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>>8074001
How?
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>>8070574
My post got deleted... interesting.

>"Come here bend over let me show you how romantic I can be :3"
That would have been kinda romantic without the "bend over" part.

>"I tend to shy away from campy meme tier romantic stuff (like bringing you a Rose on the first date) because I view it as inauthentic and manipulative."
Bringing a rose on the first date is not per se inauthentic and manipulative, but in any case downright creepy. But it can be appropriate after you already had some dates together, though.

What is your stance on love letters, Carth?
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>>8058949
Ha ha ha. You need to hang out in /mtfg/ mire. If anything we're more petty and narcessistic than cis girls.

The videogame thing is true though.
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>>8059909
Cuck.
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>>8063834
As a transbian that rosy image is just as cringy as male chasers.

I like shopping and makeup but the last thing i need is a girl that just wants to bimbofy me. I do a plenty good enough job on my own.

The implication that you're bi and wanna get fucked would probably thrn off a lot of trans girls too.

Yes, we'll go shopping sometimes, put on makeup, and fuck piv but 99% of the time you better be ready for a regular dyke relationship because that's what its like. Not some fruity man in a dress you can doll up.

It doesn't matter anyways because way waaay fewer women are chasers and its actually suprisingly easy to find the trans 'dream' of gf that sees you as female but doesn't mind your dongger.
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>>8058824
I just wanna cute waifu to play games and drink with, the dingdong doesn't really matter since I'd be putting mine in'er bum anyway (but only after a long loving relationship)
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>>8075377
>but the last thing i need is a girl that just wants to bimbofy me.
Why?

>The implication that you're bi and wanna get fucked would probably thrn off a lot of trans girls too.
Plenty of trans girls have fucked straight girls while they were presenting as men.
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>>8059647
>And that is why trannies won't date you.
Say for yourself.
Some don't project the sum of their dysphoria on their genitals and don't make mental acrobacies to justify the exact right kind of intimacy they want being the only kind acceptable.

I'm fine being a girl with a dick. It's weird, sure, but I'm weird and life is weird and that is who I am, that's life.
Now, I can barely use it and I prefer not to touch it, it is just more fun that way, but it is not like I can't acknowledge its existence and/or find joy in someone accepting and toying around with it, it is just a way to show affection and care.
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>>8075488
Thank you for this post!
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>>8075535
Most cuck chaser post 2017.
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>>8075734
But I'm a tranny?
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>>8075432
>why?
Because i'm not a fetishistic bimbo. I already know how to look and dress and be a woman. You can give me the tips you give to your girlfriends but you can't make me your own personal sex barbie.

>Plenty of trans girls have fucked straight girls while they were presenting as men.

Yeah and planty of gay guys had a wife and kids before sucking cocks. You shouldn't just expect it. If its a thing then its a thing.

Too many bi girls end up being like 'tee hee, ur the best of both worlds'. Bitch if i only go down on you then no i'm only as good as a stone butch. The expectation that you're like a guy and will act like a guy and be dominant in charge but just look like a girl/bimbo is a total turn off.
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>>8075829
You made a lot of leaps in logic so that you could play the offended one, is what this post reads like. A lot of lesbians do that frotting thing but with their vags. I would want to do that with a mtf girlfriend. Of course the most important part of the relationship is how we connect on a personal level, but that includes being comfortable enough to try new things with each other and working to accept each other's (and our own) bodies.

That other poster never said anything about bimbos and I don't know where you got that from. I don't use makeup myself, but my other friends do each other's makeup often and they're in their mid to late 20s. It's a normal thing.
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