ok so the trans community has always sucked bad and like the

when that tumblr tranny killed herself
in 2014 and tumblr ended up all over the news

>>8039837
>we scientically exist and theres neurological studies that prove trans people are their gender,
How does this have anything to do with rights?

>>8039837
>'we must queer society and make everyone nonbinary polyamorous aromantic autistic weeb furries, my pronouns are ae/or/aer please check preferred pronouns before addressing anyone shitlords'?
who says this

>>8039943
people saying 'it mental illness/delusions/made up im not legitimising this we don't give scizophenrics extra rights with their delusions its preferential treatment fuckin trannys'

just as mistreatment of blacks was based on flawed/outdated political and racial science was debunked since you can't use it to prove black folks aren't deserving of rights any more (you have to use social science and economics these days), its the same for trannys. its a neurological difference, not a mental illness/moral failing. u gotta take on transness with social or economic policy. its a important difference because the moment its not pathologised a certain way, the access to rights gets easier

>>8039988
dude where have you been, just start moving in 'queer circles' (u know the cis political crossdressing community that co-opted the trans rights movement) and these people are everywhere. theres two camps now of mental trannys. the genderspecials and blair whites begging for alt right table scraps. we can never be normal anymore

>>8040002
We don't take morals from science. The two aren't connected.

"mental illness" is an unscientific term because it means altered states of mind that are bad. If something functions exactly the same way but wasn't considered morally negative, it wouldn't be called a mental illness.

Transgenderism being biological doesn't mean it should be acceptable rather than considered some biological ailment and transgenderism being psychological doesn't mean it shouldn't be accepted.

You even admit social science and economics are used to deny black people equal rights, though I'm not sure how you mean, which shows how politics and science have nothing to do with each other.

Men and women are known to have different brains but that doesn't mean they get mistreated the way different races were. Again, science and morality have no connection.

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>>8040012
>the genderspecials and blair whites begging for alt right table scraps
Now I want to put on a Schutzstaffel uniform and feed a collared Blair White some crusty table scraps out of the palm of my hand

>>8040021
'rational' people use science to justify morality tho, genious

>>8040042
>'rational'
Idiots who have already made up their mind.

Nobody in history has changed their view on sex, race, homosexuality or trans people because they learned new science.

>>8040052
>Nobody in history has changed their view on sex, race, homosexuality or trans people because they learned new science.
Except, you know, people who aren't willfully ignorant.

>>8040021
ok well instead of using racialised science to say 'these 'people' are subhuman' you instead do things like enact policies that make it hard for black people to get jobs, not having companies in high black population areas, and doing things like making computers hard when computers are an industry where its possible to make money being self taught. its social policy and economics used to keep people down.

its like this for trannys. if you get denied from hospitals for healthcare, fired from jobs, you can keep them down. its just harder doing it brazenly than when being trans was some kind of mental illness (aka i don't like it)/moral failing/demons shit. with trans as a neurological defect, discriminating against them is a much worse thing when its a biological thing proven to exist instead of something theorized. it means people will get behind a movement when its based on reals and not feels

>>8040027
Yeah that's her draw basically.

>>8040071
Are you serious?

Are you saying that you'd support slavery if blacks did have lower IQs?

Or that you'd refuse trans people transition if they hadn't been proven to have the other sex's brains?

Or that you;d want women to lose the vote if sex differences were proven?

Call me willfully ignorant, but I know I'm not a bigot like you.

>>8040074
>doing things like making computers hard
You had me until you said this. This is stupidity anon. Computers aren't racist, except for facial recognition software. Anyone can learn to use a computer.

Everything else is pretty spot on.

>>8040077
they need to make them easy like TV so people in the community can get good jobs

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>>8040082
Microsoft has got you, senpai.

>>8040088
is that a button with a ass with a mole on it. now ur speaking my language senpai

>>8040076
>Are you saying that you'd support slavery if blacks did have lower IQs?
This says more about you than me. Do you have a drive to enslave everyone you think is dumber than you?

>Or that you'd refuse trans people transition if they hadn't been proven to have the other sex's brains?
No, it was proven to be medically helpful well before that research became available.

>Or that you;d want women to lose the vote if sex differences were proven?
No, differences between men and women don't count against equal rights in the same way that differences between anyone don't count against their equal rights.

>Call me willfully ignorant, but I know I'm not a bigot like you.
This entire post of yours is an outrageously absurdist reach and you know it.

Objective knowledge about trans people is objective knowledge about trans people. If someone makes up some bullshit /pol/-tier infographic about trans people (which happens all the time) that counters the established science, and uses that bullshit to prop up a political attack on the whole trans demographic, the infographic is not somehow based on valid facts because of feels and public support. If someone learns that the infographic is false according to actual scientific sources, and chooses to ignore this to serve their political ideals, that is willful ignorance.

>>8040082
Oh ok, you're trolling. Kinda funny that you have to ramp up the forced idiocy just to make rational stuff seem dumb.

>>8040133
dude its a fucking meme reference

>>8039837
>we scientically exist and theres neurological studies that prove trans people are their gender
There is currently no solid neurological explanation behind gender identity and dysphoria.
Just like the concept of "male brain"/"female brain" hasn't been supported by science so far.
Trans people really have nothing other than feeelz currently to prove that they indeed belong to their preferred gender. However, the trans community seems to be successfully riding on the "born this way" narrative adopted from gays, using totalitarian tactics to silence all opposition.

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>>8040077
>>8040133
That anon is referencing this.

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>>8040141
>>8040275
Oh wow, that's old as fuck.

>>8040270
>There is currently no solid neurological explanation behind gender identity and dysphoria.
Just a lot of objective evidence that heavily leans towards a cross-sexual neurological cause based on the established dimorphic differences between males and female controls.

>Just like the concept of "male brain"/"female brain" hasn't been supported by science so far.
By feminism. Not by science, which has long since concluded that males and female controls have similar, but different brains. This doesn't mean that men or women are inherently better or worse than the other. That's politics and culture.

>Trans people really have nothing other than feeelz
More like mounting neurological evidence that almost no one pays attention to over television, film, music, and social media campaigns with drag queens and Lady Gaga and shit. Also you have the other end with the religious and "MUH FAMILY" bullshit.

It's politically "problematic" for the narratives of both political extremes, because "god makes no mistakes, ever, shut up!" (far-right) and "nature makes no mistakes, ever, shut up!" (far-left). Both try to smokescreen this info with spam, and rhetoric, and memes, in various ways to virtue signal to uninformed audiences from both ends of the political spectrum.

>>8040121
>This says more about you than me.
No, these were based on your own example of science being used for morality >>8040074

It's all you.

>and uses that bullshit to prop up a political attack on the whole trans demographic,
Except your new line is that the science doesn't matter after all, using the three examples of race, trans and sex.