You can pass and still be ugly

>>7993989
People think that being gay is a nonstop party. Well put that notion to bed. Gay people lead hard lives and make sacrifices to be who they are. They take pride in what they have accomplished despite peoples prejudice.

They understand that their lifestyle may offend some people, but they can't help being who they are.

Obsessing over appearances only demeans what you are trying to do, it only cheapens the life you are trying to lead. I'm not saying looks aren't important, but looks aren't everything.

>>7993989
We all have things about our bodies that we don't like. But whats important is acting how you want to act and being treated fairly.

Most people aren't going out of their way to oppress you, but the looks they give you when there is little too much bounce in your step or a little too much bass in your voice, those are the things that hurt.

>>7993989
Who is this post addressed to? It feels like you're talking to some weird strawman. I'd much rather be ugly and pass than be good looking but clockable.

I'm not sure why you see presenting as a male as a 'middle ground' for transwomen either.

>>7994155
I'm talking about body image. Expectations vs. reality. Taking smaller steps but longer journeys.

If you've never worn anything but jeans and a t-shirt, maybe start with a scarf and a nice sweater before buying bootlegged estrogen and downing 9 tabs a day, buying 6 inch platform heels and showing up at the office christmas party drunk on wine coolers.

I'm saying maybe you are not going to get EXACTLY what you want.

Maybe your breasts are never going to be the exact right size and perkyness, maybe your hair is always going to look better cut short than it does when its long, maybe you look better in a sundress than you do in a mini-skirt.

This idea that you have to live up to this absurd notion of femininity in order to be and feel attractive is toxic.

>>7994214
>stop feeling gender dysphoria it's stupid and dumb

Alright boss, I'll give it a shot.

OP thinks it's all about being attractive and pretty, and not about trying your hardest to erase any feature that sets off your brain onto "I LOOK MASCULINE AND DISGUSTING" which will then spiral into a neverending loop of despair, fear, and disgust for the rest of the day if not the entire week.

I pass but I'm not the perfect picture of feminine beauty. I'm more or less at peace, but it's just how dysphoria works where every once in a while I'll see my reflection the wrong way and feel my innards twist.

>>7993989
>Ugly trans people
just get le fort I or jaw rotation already. It's universal thing that makes people appear ugly.

>>7993989
Yes, but you can ugg and still be passy

>>7993989
What's your point? Non-passing transwomen aren't seen as ugly women, they're seen as men.