>tfw you started too late Anyone else know this terrible feel?

>>7924992
>tfw you transitioned only 2 years too late and you'll always look kinda weird

I can't tell if this is worse or better.

>>7925008
so 14?

>>7925035
Go away cara

>>7924992
yeh buoi

havent even started desu

prolly wont because im not tru trans

>>7924992
I started at 23 it's really unfortunate I repressed so long. Hopefully it gets better for you though.

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>>7924992
only one option

>>7925243
I plan to do that if/when transition doesn't work out. Might attempt to briefly go out in girl mode at regular intervals to get an accurate judge of how I'm doing. If it never gets better, I'm definitely going to kill myself.

>>7925276
I know how you feel but please at least give it a few years first don't kill yourself over not passing in the first year.

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>>7924992
Yeah I'm actually terrified to go on hormones because of my liver and the side effects so I'll probably just repress for the rest of my life. I haven't even told like 99% of the people I know.
>tfw I'll never actually look like a girl

>>7925363
get injections they're absorbed directly without passing through the liver

>>7925399
Everything gets passed through the liver, actually. But you're right in that it's a weaker impact.

>>7925299
>10 months in

>>7925501
How old are you? How hard do you try to pass? Is it possible to save up for ffs if it's your face?

Is 30+ too old to start HRT?

>>7925525
if you want me to be brutally honest at 30+ chances at passing are very low. Can always try if you have dysphoria though some people end up passing.

>>7925525
99.99% chance you won't pass but you'll feel better being on HRT at least.

>>7925507
22. It's all over.

>tfw started at 16
>tfw forever a latehon

just kys my shit up f a m

>>7925541
I started at 23. I'm 25 I pass now and I'm sure you can too.

>tfw you started at 20
>it's "early" compared to a lot of people but late for you since you have shit genes
i was 6'2 already when i was like 15 anyway so it's not like it matters..

>>7925543
Hard to believe unless you have the most unfortunate genetics. Measurements and/or pics?

Im 24 and joining navy for the next 4 years to man up. Im not trans but my autistic AGP is giving me a fake gender dysphoria. If I still have dysphoria when Im 28 and transition then, would it be any different from 24? I know you also age masculine without hrt. Could I take spiro for those 4 years to stop this?

>>7925733
A world of difference in 4 years anon. I wouldn't recommend just taking an AA for a long time because then you're body wont have any sex hormones and you'll end up looking like a monster.

>>7925733
Spiro alone will just make you less masculine without being more feminine. You will probably end up losing all of your strength.

Anyway repressing is never a good idea. If you are actually autistic then that's probably why you can't see AGP is a fake 4chan meme. Talking to a real therapist about your issues would be a better idea.

>>7925586

30" waist, 39 hips, 17 shoulders

>>7925810
That doesn't sound too bad tbqh. How tall are you? And ribcage? Do you pass?
>>7925750
Not that anon, but what changes happen in those years?

>>7925536
>>7925539
Not me, transfriend who's been transitioning and presenting as female for several years but as far as I know hasn't started HRT. She passes to a degree, looks more an androgynous prettyboi than anything despite being very tall.

>>7924992
Don't be sad OP. The cold truth is you dodged a bullet. There is no happy ending to transition - only sadness and misery.

>started at 17
>was already fucked

>>7925549
I don't understand why anyone over 6ft would ever try to transition

>>7924992
>tfw started at 18
>way too late, now a huge hulk hon

>>7924992
>tfw started in the womb
>way too late, now a huge hulk babby

>>7927594
Dont make fun of me hon

>>7927171
Do you pass at least?

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How old is too old? I'm 18 right now and I'm going to get on T soon. I'm fucked anyway.

>>7928036
Height and frames are your only problems. E blockers alone are probably more usefull cause they'll let your growth plates grow more

>>7925363

So you have a weak liver to begin with then?

>>7925198
You must have shit genes, im 27 pre mones and get gendered female often even when not trying, although I've been taking PM herbs as a sort of way to control my GD since 22 as a way to stall coming out.

>>7925733

>my autistic AGP is giving me a fake gender dysphoria

Lmao. Waterboarding may be "simulated" drowning, but your lungs are still getting filled with water. Not that I think AGP dysphoria is fake, merely pointing out that even if it were, it's still kicking your ass with no end in sight. Also, how do you still think the military will man you up in 2017? Have you heard of none of the trannies that joined the military for that very purpose and clearly had it fail them?

>>7925810

I started at 20 and you could have gotten the same measurements from me. WTF?

>>7925810
>>7928851

Actually, I have 40" hips. My mistake. How tall are you?

>>7925733
You can transition in the military. It's what im doing. I started at 23, I don't pass but I have no bills because I'm in the military and am going to get ffs pretty soon.

>>7928833
>Not that I think AGP dysphoria is fake, merely pointing out that even if it were, it's still kicking your ass with no end in sight.
See how damaging the lies about AGP are? Anon has convinced themself they shouldn't transition because of their kind of dysphoria and has put themself in a situation where that dysphoria will become worse and get no help. Regardless of whether transition would help, they won't do it, because they believe in "fake gender dysphoria".

>>7924992

28 yr old here, it would take a lot of ffs for me to pass now I think. I had a conservative upbringing, didnt even know about transitioning until I got to uni and even then it took me so long to come out as I despised the lgbt groups attitude/agenda, even now apart from my wife and close friends I am closeted. I will just have to be a fabulous effeminate Englishman forever.

>>7924992
I started at 27 but didnt get on legit hormones until right before I turned 29. Im a year and 2 ish months straight on hormones and I have no delusions about passing (even when I lose then regain some weight.). I feel better though so it kinda balances out. Im also in the closet at work so I dont do makeup and stuff.

>be 17, slightly masc with moderate dysphoria
>try mones for 2 months
>almost no changes, decide to stop
>"Lol I'll just repress for the rest of my life"

>be 24
>body has gone full neanderthal mode
>get legit panic attacks from looking in the mirror
>have been on HRT for 6 months, but it does fuck all for my caveman skeleton
>spend every day cursing 17-yr-old me for being an impatient fuck

Repression is a meme, nobody can bottle that shit up forever

>Tfw started at 16
4 years later and I don't pass

I'm 30 mtf here but have the entire CIA at my disposable to do my transition. Money is a non issue as well.

What kind of crazy fucking spy shit and advanced technology do you think they have to make this work?

I mean, I was born a hermaphrodite so technically I have had female hormones my entire life? Female bits inside of me always fucked with me mentally and emotionally but I never knew they existed until now... and the reason why I was always leaning more towards female.

I'm so very fucking confused now but I want to be a lady so fucking badly.

30 years old and just now finding out I was born fucked up.

THANKS MOM AND DAD

>>7929228
How did you change between 17 and 24?

>>7929257
>I want to be a lady so fucking badly

Sounds like you're already halfway there, anon.
LMAO

>>7929257
It's not your parents fault your genes got a bit messy.

>>7929382
It's their fault for not fucking telling me I was born with BOTH lady and guy parts. I thought the discoloration and lines on my dick were just normal or somewhat odd but it turns out it's scarring from surgery as an infant.

My entire life I was raised as the wrong sex. I was born both and they chose the wrong fucking one to raise me as.

>>7929401
It was either a coin toss or raising you as a xir.

>>7929401
color me surprised.
i've never heard of a hermaphrodite child being raised as a male.
in my experience 100% of them have surgery to make them appear female since it is easier to take away tissue than it is to add it.
i'm curious about your case.
it is extremely rare that a hermaphrodite has a fully functioning penis AND descended testicles.
In fact I'm really beginning to wonder if you aren't, in fact, fibbing just a little about the details in some mistaken attempt at garnering attention?

t. gp physician

>>7929228

>get legit panic attacks from looking in the mirror

That fucking feel.....took me too long to realise why I hated looking at myself.

>>7929480
Not her but someone else who's curious, could you share more information on intersex people?

Have you dealt with intersex medical issues yourself?

>>7929480
I don't know much about my situation as I'm left in the dark myself about most of it.

Seriously, I just don't know the full extent of my own god damn situation. They (The government) won't let me talk to any doctors.

I also have fucking parkinson's disease but they won't talk to me about that either.

>>7929504
No, just read about them in medical school.
My practice is nearly all elderly folks dealing with chronic cardiovascular issues and diabetes mostly.
Anything unusual gets referred to a specialist.

>>7929514
>(The government) won't let me talk to any doctors.

seems legit

>>7929480
She might not have developed genital tissue from both.

>>7929514
What county doesn't let patients get their own medical history?

What have your parents said?

>>7929328

Same changes most guys go through in their 20s. Got a taller/wider frame, larger hands & feet, etc. Face got hit hardest and went from round to long and angular like some wrinkly Robbie Rotten looking motherfucker

To add insult to injury, I'm asian, but missed out on all the sweet androgynous genes

>tfw 19 almost 20
>too late

>thought about it at like 15/16 but ended up ignoring it
>same at 17
>same at 18
>will probably keep doing it until I kill myself (soon, within 1 - 2 years )

>>7929797
>too late
how so anon? what's your body like?

>>7929841
6'1, fat

bad brow, I would probably never pass

>>7925066
14 *is* too late. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kgUuLgKBac

>>7929257
You sound like your 12, and I also doubt you work at the CIA...

How do you just not have a lower body x-ray until your 30?

>>7929844
19-20 is prime transition time ignore the rest of the shit you hear. Do it now or hate yourself later.>>7929797

>>7929901
What the fuck. That person looks like she's in her late 20s. The fuck? How?

Can you pass if you are 27, but you look like you are 20? I have feminine features, but I am a late transition case.

Feedback would be greatly appreciated, f.a.m.

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>>7924992
Yep. I could never transition by myself. I needed help and support but got shame and abandonment. I was only able to transition in my mid 20s when I was mentally stable enough after many suicide attempts. By then it was too late. Now I just look like a long haired chad with boobs. It sucks because people still consider me handsome and tell me all the time because I look 16 going on 30. But I dont want to be handsome. Its not who I am inside. Im a cute little girl not some bishie faggot. Im trying not to kill myself but I think about suicide every day.

>>7925035
>>7925066
14 is too late. I used to be small like 4ft, 90lbs like >>7929901
when I was like 9 and by the time I was 15, I was 5'10 200lbs of muscle. I dont even like typing this because I start crying and want to put a bullet in my head.

Will you stop making these fucking threads, OP kys

>>7929543

>What county doesn't let patients get their own medical history?

I think that might actually be common with intersex children. Whether they're trans or intersex, no one wants to admit they were wrong for raising you in the wrong gender.

>>7930403
14 is too late for you because you are an ugly little shit maybe. It doesn't mean it's too late for everyone. Even 25 isn't too late if you are femininely atractive.

>>7929480
lol you're joking right? in the UK at least they default to male

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>>7930540
Im not ugly or little. The problem is my body developed in puberty very masculinely. This is my bone structure. So its kind of impossible for me to look feminine. I just look like a baby faced guy with soft skin with the body of a gladiator. I hate it. I want to die.

>>7931346
No they don't.
If they did you would have a penis, undescended testicles and a vagina.
They remove the tiny penis and scrotal sac and leave the normal vagina and clitoris, effectively a normal woman.
They can't remove the vagina and even if the did sew it shut they would still have undescended testicles that are overpowered by the hormonal effects of the ovaries.
Stop spouting bullshit.
You obviously don't know anything.

>>7931402
I'm surprised they still do the surgery in the UK or other civilized countries.

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>>7927840
Nope.

>>7931483
Honestly I think you'd be fine if your voice passes, but I understand that this is just one picture and not the same as seeing you in person.

>>7931483

I have seen quite a lot of women who look more manly than you, only serious give away to me is the hands, but only because i hone in on all the masculine traits because its what i hate about myself.

>>7931376
Lol you calling yourself a gladiator reminded me of Kayla

>>7931592
thats what everyone says

I started at 15, had gfs and still didn't pass. I detransitioned.

>>7931564
Yeah. Idk I get ppl irl telling me and I just think they're being nice desu
>>7931572
Idk my shoulders are fucckkkked
And oh yeah they're under 6 inches wrist to longest point iirc tho
I'm just like 5'4" so they're big on me

>>7931483
I'm jelly of your hips. Did you get them from bone growth?

>>7931864
Idkkk I'm like absurdly fat

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>>7924992
Sure but I've made peace with it. My situation is "good enough" for a tolerable existence. I have decided to spend my time pursuing intellectual goals instead of whatever it is normies spend their time on.

>>7931985
That's pretty normal levels of fat. You have very female fat distribution as well. I told a friend yesterday that I wish I had fatter arms because it's all in my thighs right now.

>>7935765
idk, i mean my bf says that i pass rly well and he thinks i'm qt and i just like i dunno. i wanna make myself feel like i'm not ugly
you'll getto where i am, anon. i believe in you!