FtMg

Fuck. I dyslexia'd up the thread link.
>>7896207

First!!!

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>>7896284
You are!

>>7896284
Good job! We're proud of you

How do you get over feelings for someone?

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>>7896781
By falling in love with me instead

>>7896799
No offense but she's probably better than u

>>7896781
time

sufficient distractions

>>7896781
If you figure it out, let me know.
I carry flames for a long fucking time.

>>7896799
Those eyes are nightmare fuel.

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STOP LIKING MEN

>>7896961
Most of us like women already...

>>7896961
posting a qt boy like that isn't gonna stop me, anon

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>>7896970
no you don't

>>7896991
I'm married to a woman...

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>>7896808
That is a lie. I am very hot. I can fit my whole fist in my mouth.

>>7896781
Limit interaction with the person. Hope a distraction comes along so you don't spend the entire time in your fantasies.

>>7896961
if I can't play with my own dick though what's wrong with playing with somebody else's?

How'd your coworkers react to your transiton if you were working during the time? I'm 3 weeks on T now and haven't bothered explaining anything to the 7 or 8 people I work with.

>>7897726
Interested in this. How can my transition process at work go as smoothly as possible?

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Thoughts on this guy? Is he a good spokesperson for ftms everywhere? Good thing he transitioned, tbqh, he would've made a really ugly woman.

>>7897726
They were pretty chill. I checked with my boss, he said i could go forward how i wanted to, and I literally just asked my coworkers to call me by a new name. Didn't make a thing of it. Everybody was at least polite enough not to be a dick to my face. I'd been dressing masc and binding for a while though, so there wasn't much of a physical change up. Started HRT soon after.

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>>7897455

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Free shocks from Mike Palpatine.

>>7897853
i want her to sit on my face so bad

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That's right! Chins up, share memes, smile, laugh and have fun! It's all about living and you guys are gonna make it. Stat body positive and fighto!

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>>7898669
blow me

>>7897853
>guy

nah

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>>7898669
*stay body positive
>>7898682
R-rude

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>>7897853
I want to get on T and go full roid raging tard strength /fit/ manlet mode just to crush xer.

Good morning. I'm exhausted. My hair's grown too long for me to pass and I can't afford a haircut. Thankfully, though, I'm losing a lot of weight. I pass well when I'm thin.

>>7899476
cut it yourself

>tfw when mtf
>tfw no ftms to hang out with
>tfw no ftm bf

where do you guys hang out? both online and real life??

>>7899538
don't go places where ftms hang out, they're all horrifying and full of aaps
post tits
post personality too i guess

Living on the edge here, lads.

Moved back home for a while because of financial problems and started T a month ago. Voice dropped dramatically, stubble grows faster than light, people asking why I suddenly got a perma-cold.

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>>7899538
We hides on lily pads and eat bugs. If you kiss us we turn into princes.

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>>7897853
It has a chin hole that looks like a smaller version of pic related

>>7899551
>people asking why I suddenly got a perma-cold.
Tell them you got a perma-cold

>>7899620
D-don't bully chin dimples. People tell me they look manly.

>>7899620

I knew it reminded me of something!

>tfw no ftm bf
>tfw no cute mtf ftm relationship

>>7899630
They look like SHIT, smooth chin master race. Can we argue that androgynous faces are superior to manly\feminine ones?

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>>7899622
That's what I'm doing.

>mfw seeing nice perky tits every day in my gym's locker room because birth name on my ID
It's not that bad, for now.

>>7899654
>Can we argue that androgynous faces are superior to manly\feminine ones?
Ultimately it always depends on your attractiveness.

>>7899654
fug you :(

>>7899660
There's different types of attractiveness. A handsome male isn't going to be attractive in the same way a beautiful woman is. And andro faces have their own spectrum of attractiveness too. So comparing the three, at a hypothetical high attractiveness level, andro is the superior breed.

>>7899677
eye of the beholder mate

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>>7899650
Be my gf

>>7899677
Still depends, there are lots of butt ugly androgynous people. Then again I've got an andro face myself.

>>7899708
Yeah that's why I said at a hypothetical high attractiveness level, not taking ugly fucks into account. Of any kind. And same, weirdly enough I would have hated having an overly masculine face as much as an overly feminine one.

>>7899707
ok

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>>7899723
Are you cute and european

>>7899716
I wouldn't have hated it but I'm fine with my face. Think prime HSM era Zefron or Jared Leto pretty boy face.

>>7899538
Any event advertised as "queer" instead of "gay"

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>>7899731
I'm told I look similar to this guy but my jaw isn't as pronounced and I have grey eyes

>>7899750
now post your face

>>7899750
My jaw is pretty square.
I remember that guy in Gossip Girl.

>>7899764
Not on 4chin, I avoid social networks and other shit to avoid plastering my face online. If you want to see it, throwaway email.

>>7899772
Mine is average. It's there, but not too pronounced, though I don't mind. I didn't know this guy until it was mentioned "you look like [insert name]"

>>7899812
Smart man
here: [email protected]

> relearning how to flirt after transition
> figuring it out
> don't know how to disclose so as soon as I'm about to get laid I flip and run away
> literally run away

motherfucker

>>7899877
Haha dude what the fuck

>>7899890
Well I'm at a bar or party thinking like "I'll practice being charming with kinda-cute women, because women I'm really into are too intimidating right now and men are completely mysterious"

Then I end up making out with a girl while thinking "She's pretty cute but does she know I'm trans, do I tell her, is it worth it?"

Then I dip out to use the washroom or smoke and disappear into the night

>>7899937
How about playing the long game?
Leave the bar and go for a walk and talk with her, maybe follow her home and if she's looking for nookie ask for her number instead and ask if she wants to get a coffee some time in the week.

Instead of having to out yourself to a stranger you can get a potential gf and come out when you know she's to be trusted.

>>7899853
>>7899812
Aaanytime you want m8

>>7899964
Thats risky too, the crazy ones feel more betrayed after investing more time AND have had longer to get your name, address, place of work. They are capable of outing you to more people.

>>7899877
Amazing.

>>7900048
...
That's why you get to know them first and check if they are crazy. If they are, don't tell them.
It's also very risky to come out to randos at the club because they can snap pics and to an online revenge campaign by spamming them.

>>7899654
what about slight butt chins with pubic looking facial hairs?

>>7900068
Who burts it early? Got to have your escape line clear. You act like bitches cannot conceal crazy for months.

>>7900092
Ironically, I have yet to find a woman nor man crazier than myself. Except for this homeless guy who wailed and shrieked to a pair of shoes.

>>7900086
how many hairs do you have?

>>7900086
"Pubic" is never a word you want associated with your face.

>>7900354
All beard hairs are pubic hairs

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>tfw one (1) chin hair

>>7900599
Is this the one that got named a while back?

>>7900649
Nah I think I'm a different anon

>>7900906
What should we name yours? I vote for Bertie.
Bertie the lone beard hair.

I finally ordered some sex toys and they arrived today with a handful of those chalky red and white breath mints and a penny.

>>7900931
>with a handful of those chalky red and white breath mints and a penny.
w-what are you going to do to the penny

>>7900306
like 20 minimum, mostly in one spot on the right side of my chin.

>>7900915
Shit I'll take it, sure

>>7900939
Throw it in my change jar? I didn't order them. I feel like they slightly overcharged shipping and the person packing it threw in some shit he found to add the slightest bit of weight for it.

I had no one else to tell but really felt like I needed to tell someone.

>>7901313
>I feel like they slightly overcharged shipping and the person packing it threw in some shit he found to add the slightest bit of weight for it.
Now the penny is less charming. Same about the mint noms?

>>7901351
They should have done the Japanese thing and included a pack of tissues.

>>7901481
How is that japanese?

>>7901351
Yeah, at least until I'm pinching pennies and need to clean it out. They aren't even those good kind of peppermints. They're red and white but that chalky chewy kind. Also everything I bought came with lube packets, which isn't weird but redundant since I bought lube.

Been meaning to buy crap like this for years to try and make sex more fun since I find it painfully boring and now that I have it, I'm more uninterested than ever. Maybe after a few drinks.

>>7901507
The Japanese sometimes include a pack of tissues when you order something online.

>>7901539
Use the extra lube to put the mints up your bum

>>7901569
Reminds me when my gf and I tried different lubes. One was a 'cooling' lube that burned like a thousand suns. It was like brushing your vagina with toothpaste or icy hot.

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>>7901659
Yeah, mucus membranes are not big fans of harsh chemicals.

I need to buy more lube. Once the vag-hole is sewn shut the downstairs gets hella dry. I cannot masterbate without some sort of lube anymore, at least not to completion.

>>7902269
Lewd

>>7902426
Now now, there were no gorey details.

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>>7902464
>mucus membranes

>>7901544
Its a common way of advertising in Japan. People will hand out packets of tissues on the street also.

>>7902522
Yup. Eyes, nose, butt holes, cock heads, vaginas.

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>>7902606
stop

>>7902631
we've all got 'em sonny jim

nothing you wouldn't hear about in biology class

Is anyone else okay with trans people having to be steralised? I mean maybe not because human rights and blah blah but pregnant ftms gross me out and make us look bad.

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>>7902654
We also killed frogs in biology class

>>7902695
grosses me out too, but for me it weighs more slightly in favour of all that human rights, right to do what you want with your own body sort of stuff

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>>7902695
I wish they would remove my ovaries and front hole right fucking now senpai

>>7902695
what if your gf/wife had bad eggs and needed yours? It doesn't have to be the transguy carrying the damn thing, you know, but eggs give you the opportunity to become a father.

Dear Brooklyn (and anyone else it may concern,) this is the last time I will have access to a computer for a month. I am in Salt Lake City, Utah now and have arrived at my rehab facility. Unfortunately, I had a psychotic episode and ended up in the local psych ward. This, ironically enough, landed me access to a computer. I don't think the computer at rehab has access to 4chan but I'll definitely check. I don't think I'm gonna stay out here actually. Probably gonna go back to Atlanta when this is all over. Anyway, I get out Monday. Hit me back before then.

t. Junkie Anon

>>7902695
There should be zero gatekeeping for any part of transition.

>>7902758
>had a psychotic episode and ended up in the local psych ward
I need details

>>7899877

kek, reminds me of this fucking scene from the original Nutty Professor, where his suave serum suddenly wears off right in the middle of wooing.
https://youtu.be/txT-Fgb_vbQ#t=43m02s
(43:02 to 44:10)

>>7902568

Weird.
I always heard that blowing your nose in public is taboo in Japan.

>>7902800
who says they're using them for snot?

>>7902800
People will pick their nose in public but I imagine blowing it is offensive, yeah.
The tissues aren't encouraging that, though.

>>7902695
>stop doing icky things that gross me out a bloo bloo

fuck off hitler

>>7902695
I think it's fine but I'm on the fence whether or not I want to see it in the news intentionally aka they put or wanted it there rather it being an invasion of privacy.
Some people just have a very strong drive for biological kids. Adoption and surrogate mothers is very expensive and time consuming so I can see why it's just easier to drop T for half a year and birth your own kid. There really isn't anything wrong with it besides you don't like it. It's not like pregnancy is permanent.

Unless it's tucutes who make no effort to pass, show tits, wear makeup and brag how manly it is to get knocked up. Which to my knowledge has not happened yet and they will grow out of their fake identities before they reproduce.

>>7902758

shit... sorry to hear that, i've known a couple people who have been in psych wards before never was myself...

i talked myself out of one once in the hospital cuz suicide shit and anyway, these 2 guys who worked there were trying to force me to undress and threatening to sedate and restrain me while i was just sitting there, talking to me like they were trying to get me to act anything other than calm... a doctor told them to leave the room and said none of what they were doing there was necessary cuz i wasn't doing anything to warrant their presence... just pretended everything was fine and went home cuz yeah... didn't wanna stay there, and while i did still want to kill myself being there with those guys around didn't seem like it would make that any better

how are you holding up? how's the withdrawal?

wish i could help you out when you're out of rehab but idk where i'm gonna be in a month

cisbro reporting
cisbro loves you all, yell at me, ask me weird dick questions, whatever

tip of the day: make your own antiperspirant with equal parts baking soda and cornstarch, with enough coconut oil to make a paste. you'll want more oil if you keep it in a jar, less if you stuff it in a roll-on applicator. honestly better results than any brand ive ever tried, and no aluminum, which slowly we are realizing is linked to alkaloid plaque and therefore dementia and breast cancer.

also PBR is for hipsters and my uncle
my uncle is doing 45 years in a utah penitentiary so do you wanna be like him
do you

i did a bad job explaining

aluminum is linked to alkaloid plaques and breast cancer. alkaloid plaques are linked to dementia. there is no established correlation between alkaloid plaques and breast cancer of which medical science is currently aware

whatever just make your own goddam deodorant that's the point

>>7902919
PBR? is this beer or bull riding?

>>7902919
What are the differences between how cis guys see FtMs compared to MtFs?

>>7902962
pabst blue ribbon... it's shitty cheap beer

>>7902976

+ not as shitty or cheap as that beer that's like $1.25 for a huge can of it... crazy stallion, but drinking that shit is always just kinda sad... sadder than pbr and rolling rock

>>7902984

+ pbr is like rolling rock pretty much or buying a 40 of old english

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>>7902951
>aluminum

>>7896961
stop posting that shit

>>7902895
As someone who has been in psyche wards there is only three reasons why you should ever go.
1 is that you are suicidal enough to go through something a real danger to yourself or others. Suicide hotlines also will not call anyone or try to find you if you word your call right. Don't admit you hurt yourself or will kill yourself unless you actually want help.
2 is that you have real psychotic problems and are not getting help you need on your own, however this can also be a huge waste of time and frustration depending on what the psyche ward is like since chances are they will keep you for 48 hours and just set you loose with nothing since at that point most people have long calmed down and just want to go home so it makes you comply and lie to get the fuck out. It's one of those 'last resort' things.
3 you are actually completely fucking batshit but at this point you shouldn't be able to realize you are insane so you would hopefully be involuntarily committed. Depending where you live, this can be hard. I speak from much experience with my mother, who is truly batshit and through all the crazy and harmful shit she did to herself, it took her attacking a random dude on the phone at the hospital for them to finally agree she is nuts.

I guess there's a fourth option where you need a 'break' from everything or your home/situation but that's pretty shitty to do. Waste of everyone's time and resources.
Never been in rehab so I'm not sure how different it is compared to psyche wards but I imagine it's similar. No freedom, constantly watched, can't do shit, shit food, treated like a child, scolded for retarded shit like swearing, etc.

>>7902837
go back to tumblr

>>7902962

the pisswater senpai

>>7902967
more mtf than ftm that i know of- so this is subjective experience here- act more like a caricature of the target sex than the actual 'normal' cis member of the target sex. it can hit uncanny valley sometimes. most mtf seem to shoot for being just normal dudes.

testosterone kills men, long story short. it's why cis men live 8 years less on average. so i want to help anyone who wants to get into that and ends up with guy responsibilites. i feel for anyone who starts with less bone density and dimorphic differences in muscle mass, works to a different level, and then ends up on an oil rig or laying tile, you know? i want to give any practical advice I can. it's like teaching a brother to lift with his legs. let's keep your spine in working order.

plus guys tend to be more accepting in general. imagine two blokes in a bar. one posits an uncouth remark about the sexual morality of the other's mom. his compatriot responds in kind about the peculiarly close branches of the first's family tree. in turn, a quip regarding the reputation a sister garnered among the major sports teams during her scholastic career, a rebuttal about the current girlfriend's marked resemblance to an ill-groomed horse, and soon enough they're both out back and one of our brave heroes will end up inspecting pavement.

then they go back in and sit down, and have another beer.

what i'm getting at is if you're not a total prick then you're much more likely to be welcomed aboard than mtf are among cis women. we're smelly, angular, and it's curious why somebody would want to join the club. but most guys just plain don't give a shit about your junk. hold the door open and don't stiff waiters and we're all good.

>>7903001
what do you want man don't squint cats at me and expect me to guess

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>>7903148
how do I get a boyfriend/girlfriend(male)?

>>7903167
I mean how do I talk to the person I like without spilling spaghetti

>>7903148
>testosterone kills men, long story short. it's why cis men live 8 years less on average.
I expect being about 95% of work place deaths contributes too.

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>>7903088
shut up freedom hating cunt

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>>7903148
>cis men live 8 years less on average

yeah, those years between 77 and 84 are high quality of life and should not be missed!

seriously, though, women lose at least 8 years of their lives trying on shoes and applying makeup.

and don't even get me started on the toxicity of hairspray...

>>7903016
i've never even posted this before
kys lunatic

>>7903182
stop being cute

>>7903205
>women waste time out of their own stupidity
>this makes it ok for old guys to die

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>>7903234
>>>

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>>7896157
How come all of you here are so easily offended and unfunny?
Is it because you are women?

>>7903235
>men die when they are old
>this makes it ok for me to become frankenstein

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>>7903247
If anything I probably offend people
I stop by here every once in a while and don't really see anybody being offended by little shit anymore so I don't understand

>>7903247
Do you not know how this trans thing works?

>>7903244
Cobain looks mtf in that pic

>>7903268
it is called trolling my man

>>7903274
maybe that's why he an hero'd

>>7903044

eh i didn't go to the hospital by choice... it's a long story... anyway by the time i was there a bit i had enough time to push everything down and act like nothing was still going on, but before that...

i wasn't about to admit myself and didn't exactly plan the trip...

wasn't exactly a good time, but i'm not about to get into detail...

as for rehab never been there, i locked myself in my apartment for a week to get off heroin... only went out for cigarettes and then i left brooklyn and came here

there was a point where i was thinking about rehab though, i was using every day at one point just enough to not feel sick without getting high and then binging on weekends and then doing that shit again... and i thought about rehab but i couldn't go... i couldn't have everyone know how bad it had gotten so yeah...

the suicide shit was... i couldn't hide that one, it wasn't like when i tried to hang myself where i just got drunk and pretended i was ok when it didn't work out and no one knew... everyone thought it was the first time and there was no hiding it...

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>>7903274
when doesn't he

>>7903288

now...

>>7903306
right now he looks like mr.skeletal with no upper half of his head. pretty stereotypical mtf to me.

>>7903148
Bs aside you can give me advice on lifting, friend. My job is to lift things up and down for 6-13 hours a day. Made slightly harder since I have to stretch and stand on my toes to put boxes on higher places since I'm short. I've been doing this since September with no problems until now. Heaviest is usually only up to 71lbs on our portion but I get moved around to other sections including the bulk area where shit can be over 200lbs+ that my small 5'3" 115lbs ass is expected to lift at least 4ft off the ground. I can only comfortably lift 65lbs above my head currently and I've been stuck at that for like two months now despite all the labor, damn protein and vitamins I can force to stomach.

I also have an umbilical hernia which ironically was not caused by my job but severe coughing due to pnenomia. My throat was so raw I was coughing blood but doctor said I was no longer allowed to take cough medicine since I had to cough all the shit out of my lungs and I was out of work for the days it appeared.
I had slight stomach pain and doctor confirmed my stomach felt a little hard but said it was probably just gas or something and gave me antibiotics. Next day I noticed a really hard spot on my stomach and thought maybe it was an abcess due to its an injection site for T but nope, hernia. Now I haven't gotten it fixed yet because poor and my insurance is through my job and I can't miss the hours just yet since I fell behind with the sickness but now I'm worried about lifting.
I've been scrounging all the sites and forums I can to make sure I'm lifting right and taking any advice I can get that will allow me to keep working. I like my job but they will raise hell if they find out I do have a hernia despite I know I didn't get it from working.

>>7903288
He's a handsome man with that huge cleft chin.
He still looks masculine even with long blond hair.
I think he was gay and I think Courtney had him murdered when he wanted to divorce her.
There are several movies about this.
The most incriminating evidence is that his gun was found in a position that couldn't have happened if he had shot himself with it.

>>7903311

that's only true after ffs

>>7903182
>>7903167

confidence comes from two things: feeling capable and having little or no anxiety.
feeling capable in conversation means knowing you can say interesting things. what's interesting? dunno, depends on the person. so learn. learn about various topics and remember the cool bits especially well. learn about ship building, what inspired picasso, upcoming movies relativity, gardening, everything. you'll be a better person and more prepared.
anxiety is defeated by practicing technique. how do you SOUND when you talk. is your voice clear and steady? are your shoulders back and your stomach relaxed? do you sound hurried? do you say 'um' a lot?
watch public speakers and actors. look and listen, practice the way you say things.
here's an example- out loud, try saying "hey, how are you?" in different tones and see how it changes the meaning- casual, flirty, worried, bored. listen to the differences you naturally take on when your intent changes.
listen to others and yourself and practice public speaking using exercises. the surefire way to git gud is to spill a lot of spaghetti- eventually you get enough practice in that your voice is controlled, your thoughts clear, and you can keep the conversation steady. there's no teacher like failure, but youtube breathing exercises are a close second.

>>7903193
>be my coworkers dad
>be sheet metalfag on job
>lift 5' x 8' sheet above head
>lose control, drop it straight on shoulder
>slices arm almost off
>old veteran that never says a lot is the first to react
>sprints past ten other guys half his age frozen in shock
>jams hand in shoulder wound
>clamp hands down on main artery
>directs two guys to back truck up
>biggest guy on site wraps both in a bear hug, they all tip into the back
>drive like you stole it to the hospital

turns out he was a corp medic. when he got to the ER, the paramedics took over. he let go, walked over to the corner over the truck, lit up a cigarette, and asked where his hat ended up .

>>7903323

he was attractive, but i don't think he was gay... he said shit about being bi and considering he had no issues kissing guys he probably would've said it...

i also know all the evidence that was there, but i think courtney is an easy scapegoat suicide or not...

>>7903205

thanks to my hippy parents I skip on the male equivalent. make my own everything. it's the cheap way and I know what's in it.

well I don't know about you I plan on banging every pretty lady in the nursing home when I get there. probably terrorize the staff too. they'll never be able to figure out how I keep sneaking out that much pudding.

>>7903314
shit man that ain't good. that really isn't good. the longer you let a hernia go the more likely it is that it goes from "sucks ass" to "sucks ass for the rest of my life"

I honestly can't give you advice on how to lift with a hernia that OSHA hasn't already put on a poster on the break room wall. squat all the way down, straighten back, hands under object, smoothly straighten legs, lift up with the arms.

the only new advice I can give you is to find out how to get the injury taken care of. can you inquire of your insurance without blowing the lid off? how bad would work freak out?

>>7903355
So you think he killed himself.
Because?
Too much money?
He wanted his newborn daughter to grow up without a father?
His loving wife was too sweet and caring?

It doesn't seem like your theory holds water, fampai

>>7903345
Old vets are hard dudes. Had one as a co-worker who sliced himself with an old, questionable sawblade. Said "ah fuck" and straight up took a blow torch on some metal, burned it shut and went back to work. His limbs and back were full metal from injuries but he is the most 'no fucks given' person ive met. I was honored when he once told me I was a good, red blooded worker when he started ranting about the Chinese.

His wife was pretty hard too since she had been a war-nurse until she turned like 75.

>>7903406
Since I've been out sick for so long I just can't afford the $20 co-pay until this Friday. We don't get paid for sick days, I don't get vacation days until a full year and need a certain amount of hours to keep our benefits which due to cut hours and my sick time off I'm too close for comfort. My little brother recently somehow got a hernia but it was more I'm his groin. He said they put you under and put in a mesh to close it. From what I was told and how he was still up and about it doesn't seem like its very hard to recover from.

I have put my foot down on 'working safetly'. They will push you overboard, raise hell about how important it is to be safe and then at the same time bitch and get you for the very same things they tried to make you do. In the end it's a business and that's what management cares about. The union makes it easier to put your foot down too, thankfully. I've told my supervisor to chill the fuck out, I'm working as safe as I can or just plain fuck off because he isn't supposed to be touching boxes in the first place. Not going to pretend I know all about unions or my rights but people flip when sups are doing our job because they get grievance pay. My supervisor also slipped a disc and I haven't seen him in almost two months. Words from the vine was that he got in trouble for not only doing our job but not doing it 'safely' so I'm worried about being at fault for injury.

>>7903503
Cont.
They nail it into you that even the slightest bump or scratch needs to be reported but they don't want to be at fault so they just accuse you of not doing shit right. Not only management but co-workers too. Maybe it's because it's all old retired dudes and the graveyard shift but everyone fucking hates everyone so they can be just as bitchy as management with "oh ask for help with lifting something heavy" and then look at you and refuse but you get used to it and as long as you put your foot down you can make them do their job and help.

The insurance is good but they cover their ass so they don't get sued so injuries people do get on the job can be seen and treated just fine, but it's less of a problem if it's 'not related' to work. In my case it really is but I don't want to push it. I got college tuition on the line here too with the job so I won't have to break my back for the rest of my life. I truly like the work as repetitive as it is but I rather not be crippled before I'm 50 and not much else offers benefits like they do at this bottom scale entry level. Plus, it's actively hard to get fired and no customer interaction.

>>7903251
What?

>>7903408

being addicted to heroin isn't exactly the best time

>>7903647

+ neither is using it with a significant other when you're both addicted, and more money just means more drugs and more things falling apart...

i can't even imagine being there with a kid...

i imagine you've probably never dealt with heroin addiction or been one half of a couple where substance abuse is a mutual thing... the addition of a child into that mix is mostly just terrifying

> live with my mom in the middle of nowhere
> moved here last summer because I felt like she needed me (or because I wanted a change and I used that to justify it?) Anyway she doesn't really need me.
> no friends here, they're all in the city an hour away
> no gf but the girl I've had a thing with for years is in the city too, but I think I might be better off letting that go
> traveling job so it doesn't much matter where I live for work
I don't know if I should move back or not. If I'm being honest it's the girl I miss more than anything, but I should let it go and I don't know if she's even interested in me anymore. But I'm not going to meet a girl here. I never even go out except when I visit my friends in the city occasionally. I'm 25 and I feel like I'm wasting the last of my youth, after wasting the first 20+ years being a girl. But I know if I left again my mom would me sad, plus my living expenses would go way up (not that I can't afford it, but it's nice not having to worry about it). Fuck. Sorry for blog post.

>>7903770

if i were you i'd move to the city and chase after the chick... just saying

>>7903812
You'd also be strung out senpai.
She has a kid and an on again off again relationship with the father though. I'm not sure I can deal with anymore of that. I miss her like crazy but part of me would rather find someone new and move on.

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I am getting a loan to cover my surgery. I qualify for keyhole surgery, which is nice because of minimal scarring. But it looks like (and I've read this) that keyhole surgery will still leave the nipples about the same size, so your tits will still be slightly perky. Fuck that.

I also noticed with the other type of top surgery that cuts under the breasts almost always has weird shaped nipples. They always look sewn on either lop sided or look like theyre vertical shaped.

Why the fuck can't surgeons make female nipples look like male nipples??? I want a flat chest with tiny-ass guy nipples

>>7903345
no offense but this is awful advice imo. it sounds like what someone who's always been pretty outgoing would say

thinking too hard about it and doing stuff like deliberately changing the tone of your voice in mid conversation is probably just going to make you seem even more autistic.

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>>7903843
How far a field do your work travels take you? Multiple: cities, states/provinces, or counties?

You should use some of the money you are saving living with mom and stay in different places a few times a year... like rent a suite motel, check out the night life and work opportunities in different cities.

You're young, take different cities out for a test drive... try radically different places: coastal, desert, rural, urban... might as well see as much as you can.

>>7903879
>tiny nipples and areolas
>AAA cups
Feels good man. More exercises at the gym makes the chest area looks way better too.

I don't know why surgeons only make pepperoni nipples. Most of the times they look fucking weird, I kinda feel for guys who have big breasts.

>>7905205
What if they bleached the skin to downsize them nips? Is that a thing?

>>7905221
I have no clue but I saw cis men with bigger nipples/areolas than women though. Mine are about the size of a 20 cent € coin.

>>7903843

what does that have to do with anything?

anyway, i remember you mentioning her now, and idk... i still don't see how the kid is a big deal or someone else... especially if it hasn't stopped you from being hung up on her... may as well give it a go, not like you gotta take it seriously or spend your life with her

i'm just saying to get all of that out of your system and then move forward

it's not like you're tied down to her or anywhere... if you spend some time in the city and regret it you could always leave... she's the one who's tied down not you

or you could just find someone else, but it's easier to do that when you don't live with your mom...

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God, I've been alone for so long I have no idea how to interact with other people without acting like I'm on the spectrum. I forget what the flow of normal conversation is like.

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>>7905414
Sometimes I forget I sound a bit scary, my voice has been booming loud and low since 3 months on T (was low before T too) so my voice added with my awkward interactions due to spending all day on the computer make me seem pretty menacing imo and hardly anybody talks to me except my metalhead friends and other "misfits"

>>7905414
Listen to some podcasts, Joe Rogan's pretty cool as a starter. It'll tune you in to how conversations work between people who aren't shut ins and you'll learn some shit.

>>7906086
But not the mcelroys, I noticed I picked up some weird speaking habits from listening to those guys too much.

>>7903879
I don't qualify for keyhole surgery, so I'm bitter, but I have always thought that a majority of the results I've seen from double mastectomy look off in one way or another. Fucked up nipples being a huge issue for me, I'm going to have all kinds of specifications for the size and position of my nipples when it's time for surgery.
Honestly though I do have a more vertical thing going on already with my nipples, so I think that can be a trait to female nips too and surgeons just don't really bother to correct it much.

>>7905236
Those guys may have gyno though.

>>7903879
I had keyhole and my nipples are a little big for a guy but I've only had like one comment on them ever. They weren't big for a girl, maybe just average, but as long as you don't have pepperoni nipples it will turn out ok.

>>7906166
I'm going to leave them off and have them tattooed on after that is if I don't decide to have full chest tattoo anyway.

>>7899741
Is this you, anon? If so, the thunder thigh/twig leg combination is really freaky.

Delete urself.

>>7907432
People with XX chromosones have figures like that more commonly than the straight up and down nature of XY legs.

>>7907411
You don't care about there being an actual nipple protrusion? It's kind of a must for me.
Although.. I have seen a few great areola tattoos and it's actually a good idea. Maybe after surgery it could be used to improve the look of pepperoni nipples.

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What do you guys think of this guy's work? By Dr. Wolf in Michigan. Here's 1/4

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>>7907760

>>7907760
Left nipple (from our POV) on 1/4 is a little fucky. On 2/2 the nipples are uneven.

>>7907801
* 2/4

3/4 is keyhole so obviously is gonna look better but hard to judge without straight on pics

>>7907749
nope, functionally they've never done anything for me and as for aesthetics you know there are men who have had surgery just to get rid of the protrusion? People tend to only mention something off about men's nipples if they are the polar opposite of flat and small otherwise nobody really cares.

>>7907760
>>7907770
>>7907791
Horrible. Not even baiting.

>>7907411
I wish I had thought of that. The idea was not even in the wind.

>>7907791
I haven't had top surgery and my areolas are way smaller than the post-op pic, what the fuck.

My father has them like that though, hair patch included.

>>7907791
>>7907770
>>7907760
One of these shapes is not like the others.

>>7907891
Are black people more likely to get keloid scars?

>>7908014
yes

>>7907760
>>7907975
>>7907891
>>7907791
>>7907770
I think these could be better, but maybe I'm just under-estimating exactly how hard chest surgery is.
Visually though, scarring is nice and thin in only one of the patients. The key hole surgery is the best but even then it's not a frontal shot, and I suspect like the rest the nipples are too low or otherwise missplaced. In the others (double mastectomy) the nipples also lost a lot of structural integrity and look weirdly flat or bumpy if you zoom in.
Also looks like >>7907760 left nip (to us) was put on upside down lol. Other than that they look the right size at least.
They look all right for not-fully-healed post-op shots until you start to inspect them, basically. The devil's in the details.

>>7907975
>>7907891
Why does all FtM surgery always look like straight up mutilation?

>>7907975
that looks like a detransitioning mtf
those shoulders, damn

>>7908445
>2 pictures
>all FtM surgery

>>7908535
It is rare to see anything beautiful... mostly because surgeons are less worrued about minimizing scars on dudes. Really, it gets pretty laissez faire

>tfw ftm community here is really cool and chill, takes the time to actually discuss things
>tfw mtf community is a fast paced drama filled trip circle jerk where people actually talking about trans stuff are ignored

Why am I mtf reeee
Would you guys be up for a no-trips shared trans thread sometime??

>>7908696
Idk mate, the trips here are decent.

>>7908453
If you actually pay attention and target your delts when you lift you can get shoulders like that easily.

>>7908696
The MTF community sucks because women by nature are catty and compete amongst each other for attention/ to feel superior. There's far more of you than there are of us, also, most guys here probably wouldn't dig the vibe.

What the hell do I know, though. Could be cool I'd just probably take a pass.

>>7908696

i met a cool transchick in one of those years ago... we chilled before i left brooklyn, and we've talked for a long time...

i should probably let her know i'm still alive, been a while

>>7907432
You're one to talk you ugly balding piece of shit.

>>7909217
Don't reward bad behavior with (You)s

Lads, what kind of underwear do you use? Mentioned a while back that my clit became fuckhuge in a little more than a month and it's sensitive as shit even with boxer briefs.

>>7909331
Boxer briefs. I find certain materials make the rubbing bearable, I wear ones made out of breathing athetic material mostly and it's a lot less irritating than cotton is if it rubs weird.

>>7909331
Shouldn't the hood be shielding it?

>>7909217
Just hide Fiona's posts. She's a cunt and jealous.

>>7909331
Boxer briefs desu. You get used to it.

>>7909331
Boxer Briefs + adjust throughout the day while you wait for the exposed skin to toughen a little. Baby wipes might help keep everything extra clean too - even a stray hair on your dick can cause a shitload of discomfort some days.

>>7899741
Why are people hating on this guy? He's quite cute.

>>7909331
Just regular boxers. Not as sexy as boxer briefs but I like the feel of them more lmao. Also more socially acceptable to walk around in when my brother brings home a girl for the night.

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>>7909331
I actually find briefs less problematic.

Boxers especially wad up and shift around a lot for me, it was like aggressive groin flossing. Especially ones where the inner seams were very pronounced, like little Joe Boxer crotch saws chewing away at your clit head. Boxers don't often have real crotch support, often having a seam right down the middle where your cunt flaps can pull it right in and guide it to the worst possible areas.

I went to full on briefs and have not gone back. Boxer briefs are fine, too, because they have a broad piece of cloth that sort of cups your labia majora without a seam running down the middle aligning with your own... seam.

I just don't like how the boxer briefs ride up my thighs squeezing them and making my ass look lumpy... lumpier. I wind up slashing the leg hems because they were terrible on my "thunder thighs" as jealous Fiona calls them.

>>7910942
>Why are people hating on this guy? He's quite cute.
Not "people", just Fiona... and Fiona isn't people... we do not even let it eat at the table like people.

Fiona lashed out at
>>7899741
because Fiona is fat and balding... then saw a FtM who looks the way Fiona would like to look: slender with gorgeous hair... and the Fiona-hon lashed out to say something hurtful like a catty bitch.

>>7899741
You'll look fine once T rolls through your system. You're pretty damn andro... although you're a bit too thin, really. As soon as you're on T, start eating protein and start building up muscle mass. Do not fall into the anorexia meme, it can fuck up your body and mess up your transition down the road.

Has anyone been to a gay bar? Would this be suicidal?

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>>7911223
I've been. It was pre-transition, though, and my gay acquaintances liked to invite me over without telling me if it was stripper night or not.

Go with a fag friend if you have one, or at least ask him which ones seem trans friendly... and which nights are for "events" like drag, or leather night... verify it on the club website if it has one.

Also, consider writing "I'm trans, is that cool?" somewhere so you can roll up your sleeve, or lift your shirt to have an interested party read it.

Or business cards with that plus a throw-away email.

>>7911223
I got caught in a drama between two lesbian bartenders. Now I'm not welcome anymore.

>>7911282
What are you talking about? There's no video linked in the OP. Did you post in the wrong thread maybe?

>>7911441
>>7908735

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How shit of an idea is it to get on anti-depressants

>>7911556
really, really shit idea

I went on anti-depressants and it was the worst mistake of my life

try other things like simply improving your diet, or getting more exercise

you could even start practicing basic breathing meditation or a new creative hobby

anything but "Happy Pills" okay Anon?

>>7911570
Worst mistake how? what happened?

>>7911578
Became basically a zombie while I was on them, ruined all my friendships due to being emotionally disconnected. Suffered humiliating side effects. Almost killed myself and certainly never helped myself.

>>7911601
>Suffered humiliating side effects. Almost killed myself
what happened in both these situations?

>and certainly never helped myself.
Then why were you prescribed them! are you sure they weren't any help?

>>7911570
You sound like some facebook wine mom. Depression can't just be "meditated away." It's a condition where a gland in your brain doesn't produce enough of a type of hormone. Very much comparable to how diabetes affects the pancreas. And while it can be caused either genetically, just a malfunction during the aging process, or by outside factors, it very much needs to be treated by a medical professional.

If someone isn't feeling right on their meds, they should let their doctor know so they can adjust dosages or try an alternative method under medical supervision. The pills aren't "happy pills" because they're not supposed to make you happy. In fact, you'll never feel 100% cured because it's an illness that lasts a lifetime. What the pills are supposed to do is enable you to feel something, anything at all, without having to resort to self-destructive behaviors when paired with therapy as a treatment. And by convincing someone to never seek help, you might be saving them from the discomfort of medication but also at the risk of them ending their life because they fell into an entirely preventable mental state.

People like you piss me the fuck off. All that mindset does is prevent people from getting help they need.

>inb4 "but teh chemicals! chemicals r bad guiz!"
Because I know that's where you're going to go next with your shitty arguments. Your type always does. I hope your mental illness drives you to suicide. It'd be a fitting end for you.

>>7911601
What type of meds?

>>7911607
>what happened in both these situations?
Side effects were sweats, shakes and constipation

I think the other part is pretty fucking self explanatory

>Then why were you prescribed them!
Maybe doctors are not as smart as you think they are? I told my doctor they were not helping me. My dosage was doubled, then when I still reported no improvement, TRIPLED.

I believe the big pharmaceutical companies supplying hospitals incentivize doctors to prescribe these expensive "medicines", and in large doses.

>are you sure they weren't any help?
Trust me, I am 100% sure. What helped was when I stopped taking that poison.

>>7911609
SSRIs have shown to not help against depression except for very severe cases according to Danish research. You have a very simplistic view on depression. I agree with >>7911570 That diet and exercise needs to be in check before considering meds since both play major factor to hormone production in the first place. meditation has also shown to affect production of serotoning and to lower stress hormones in the body.

>>7911609
>it very much needs to be treated by a medical professional
Professionals only made my problems worse. You should not trust them so much. Many people are better off dealing with depression without the so-called medicine a professional will tell you to go buy.

>People like you piss me the fuck off
Good, because you're a fucking moron.

>>7911621
Paxil

>>7911637
*serotonin

>>7911282
How graphic was it?
Blue board mods are pretty serious as of late.

Plus, who the fuck wants to see mtf shit here anyway? Not relavent to this thread, anon, post that stuff in our sisters' threads. Our nameless lurker brothers probably flagged it for that reason alone.

>>7911609
>Depression can't just be "meditated away." It's a condition where a gland in your brain doesn't produce enough of a type of hormone.
I used to be very depressed. I was proscribed anti-depressants. I took the wine mom meditate it away mindset instead of taking them. I'm amazingly happier now. Not perfect but any pill that could do what I did with none would be considered a miracle cure.

>People like you piss me the fuck off. All that mindset does is prevent people from getting help they need.
He said he almost killed himself. Many others have. I might have done if I'd been given your advice and took it.

All it does it prevent people from getting help they need? All it did for me was potentially save my life.

>>7911644
it was a medical vid of some doctor pulling loads of bandages out of a mtf's brand new hoohaa. Like someone giving birth to a mummy.

>>7911647
And your method almost took mine. I wasn't able to see a doctor until I was 18. The doctor was actually surprised how many suicide attempts I survived with untreated depression. Since being put on meds, I've been a lot better.

Look, maybe you were misdiagnosed. Maybe you had a shitty doctor. But you're mehod has no scientific research put into it and only works for a very small minority of people. Trying to sell it as a "one size fits all" is extremely dangerous because you're also encouraging others who are sick to abandon medical science and to use holistic methods without any professional supervision. You might as well be telling people to pray their transgender demons away. Because it amounts to the same effect.

>>7911670
>Look, maybe you were misdiagnosed. Maybe you had a shitty doctor.
So much for
>All that mindset does is prevent people from getting help they need.

>But you're mehod has no scientific research put into it
And that belief of yours is enough that you would have had me kill myself. Thanks.

>>7911670
>no scientific research
There is a ton of evidence that getting more exercise and a better diet should be the first thing to try.

Also, practicing basic breathing meditation through an online guide or whatever is not "holistic", it is about discipline.

>>7911690
You still haven't produced any research results showing that the medical community thinks we should do away with psychiatric medication. Why not just throw people in asylums again while were at it. I'm sure they'd love their daily meditiation time.

>>7911688
Because instead of talking with your doctor about how your one single type of medication wasn't working out, you decided to say "fuck it" and got lucky. And now you're trying to tempt other kids into testing that luck because you assume everyone fits into your cookie cutter mold.

>>7911726
I survived without a stay in an asylum and thanks to not taking your advice on anti-depressants.

>>7911726
>Why not just throw people in asylums again
As if the doctors you trust so much ever stopped doing that... it's just called the "psych ward" now instead of the "asylum". It's always been a prison and they will always put the most unusual people there, forcing their "medicine" on them.

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Soooooo, should I go in meds or not?

>>7911556
Not a bad idea. I'm on them, it's alright. Though it's been like a year and a half and I can't really remember what I was like without them. But I've been dealing okay with some trying times so I assume they're good. Honestly I'd like therapy or counselling and gender clinic access but I think the facilities for that are pretty shit round here so I'm outta luck there.

>>7911755
Not the same guy (I'm the one who takes the horse tranquilizer) but I was forced to go to therapy when I was 17.

Now I can't NOT take my meds or I go into withdrawals in a day.

>>7911637
> taking such a broad conclusion from only one study that you can't even cite the authors or analyze for statistical or methodological errors.

lol do u even science.

Also, that's not even true, SSRIs and SNRIs are mostly for mild-moderate depression, but it's not uncommon for severe depression cases to be undiagnosed Bipolar II where hypomania manifests as hyperfunctioning and need mood stabilizers instead.

Also, if you're gonna be anti-meds, at least cute the whole "CBT has been conclusively proven across multiple studies to be just as effective as drugs!" and conveniently forget the part where most practitioners use them together because you know, the effects stack. And a lot of the time neither one independently.

>>7911690
This is true, depression as a symptom can result from things other than Major Depressive Disorder, including a vitamin B12 deficiency, so make sure you're actually physically healthy before pursuing the mental health avenue. Meditation/mindfulness is used as part of CBT and does often work, although if you're taking the behavioral route you should see an actual practitioner to actually get real CBT. Although again, you're overgeneralizing and not citing.

This entire debate is stupid, depression comes from a lot of sources and doesn't have any single cute, and drugs aren't lolbad, but it's also not good medical advice to take any kind of medication if you aren't sure you need it. Signed, actual Psych Ph.D student.

>>7911832
* a lot of times neither one works independently, sorry, I woke up about five minutes ago.

>>7911826
What is being incarcerated like?

>>7911846
Nothing much, I wasn't really committed but I had to go to therapy every other day and take a buttload of antipsychotics and benzos.

I can't go off clonazepam right now because I start not feeling my face after a while, even though I got used to every benzo over the years.

it posts without a trip now

>>7911782
No, you should not take psych meds.

>try other things like simply improving your diet, or getting more exercise
>you could even start practicing basic breathing meditation or a new creative hobby

>>7911991
I do all of those things. The reason I'm considering drugs is because my depression worsened and I've stopped exercising as a result.

>>7912022
If you're already doing all that and your depression is still getting worse, then maybe you should try antidepressants (as much as I hate to say it...)

Just be careful, those drugs are not to be taken lightly!!

>>7912036
I know. I fucking hate this.

>>7907975

That's such a small chest, why the need for those humungous scars?

>>7911782
It's not an all-or-nothing choose, mate. You can give it a try and find out if it works for you. Chances are you won't have an adverse reaction and if you do, it'll more likely make you physically sick. I'd say give it a go.

>>7911726

i accidentally took zoloft once (not my prescription but i had doctors before then try to talk me into antidepressants and ones after too), 3 days of pure hell i came really close to killing myself...

i'm not gonna say they don't work for some people (they do, but a lot of people don't seem better off just dulled), but other shit does work for depression too... and meditation does have a lot of positive effects, it might not fix depression but it does help someone dealing with it gain perspective and a level of control without the risks of antidepressants... don't discount it

>>7912022

what kind of meditation are you trying? third eye meditation is better for perspective changes and whatnot than just breathing exercises or some shit...

>>7912145
what is third eye meditation?

>>7912153

meditation that stimulates your pineal gland (your "third eye") an ex taught me it... she was into a lot of shit like that, anyway do it right and it can feel extremely euphoric in addition to helping sort out your perspective and your capability when it comes to dealing with some shit... also helps with doing shit like living in the moment, and being able to do shit like focus on what's in front of you without attaching all your feelings to any given second (part of what can make depression worse is the hyperfocus and inability to separate from those feelings, at least that's true for me)

>>7912145
Diving right into third eye meditation could be dangerous without a guide though. The third eye can drive you crazy if you are unprepared. Better to do guided meditation if you want to open your third eye.

>>7912153
Putting things in his vag.

>>7912153

+ basically what you do is close your eyes and focus on the spot where your third eye is (if you can stand it "look" towards it, some people can't deal with the sensation but it does make it easier), breathe and concentrate try to push everything out of your head... you're gonna have passing thoughts, don't hold onto them and don't worry about experiencing them either (this part is hard at first but eventually you'll get the hang of it and won't dwell on them) cuz that's the part of meditation a lot of people get stuck on...

anyway eventually you'll feel pressure, when you feel that pressure you have to focus on it and think of it opening at its center... do that enough and eventually you'll feel it, it's an unmistakable feeling and can be extremely euphoric

there's mental balancing exercises and ways to "ground" yourself first, that are supposed to help, but from my understanding they aren't necessary and i was only taught a pagan one and well... idk your personal feelings on giving pagan shit a go just to give it a go... personally i'll try anything like that cuz i don't believe it makes a difference what it is and it's just a matter of directing your mind in one way or another + i know that shit can be offputting for a variety of reasons)

my ex recommended starting it before bed, and i did for about a month before i got full on results, but yeah...

i'm not disregarding your possible need to medicate btw, cuz whether or not you do that this is still a worthwhile experience

>>7912186

i think people overstate that shit personally... in my case its been nothing but positive, which is why i recommend it... and idk, i did just kinda dive in... my ex gave me a brief description of what to do and i figured i had nothing better to do

works better than other forms of meditation and if he's already practiced with those i don't see the harm... besides i suggested finding a way to balance himself first i just wasn't gonna share the one i know cuz that one is rooted in something non secular

>>7912186

+ he's unlikely to even get it on his first try but by working towards doing it he'll build up the ability to get through it... besides if he finds it unsettling i've got some stories for him that might help him get his shit together

it's not like it prevents you from seeking help if you fuck your shit up... and really the chances of that are low, and the fear mentality is part of what can make that shit a reality...

better to dive in ignorant and positive than be choked up on negativity and fears of "what if?" when you do something like that at any rate...

>>7912173
>>7912207
Thanks. I'll get into some reading on it. T b h I'd rather try this first before checking meds out. It's a point of last resort for me.

>>7912239

np... if you have any questions or anything while you're doing it or about how that shit turns out let me know, i'll tell you what i can...

but i would consider doing that while talking to a doctor if shit's really bad... you don't gotta jump on meds or anything, but if you're ready to off yourself and need help don't do this instead...

>>7912256

+ instead of getting help i mean... it can and does make a difference, but i don't wanna tell you not to do something that could help you and to only try this method instead...

that euphoric sensation though... i love it as much as i love heroin and sex, no shit

>>7912256
I already have a shrink, so no worries about that. Thanks, though. I will.

>>7912277

alright, good luck with it then... don't get discouraged if it takes a while to fully hit that point... just keep trying every day, and don't overthink the people going crazy shit... antidepressants could also make someone do crazy shit, shit i spent about 3 days finding ways to hurt myself that wouldn't leave any permanent damage cuz i would've killed myself otherwise after the zoloft...

i accidentally hurt myself at one point realized the pain was the only thing that felt normal next to the fucked up numbness i was feeling so yeah... that shit was a bad time

>>7912308

+ it was the worst thing i ever put in my body btw, no shit... i've never felt so disconnected from everything... it was fucked up

i think the only reason i didn't kill myself was cuz i knew the half life so i knew i just had to hold out and it'd stop once it got to the point where it dipped below the amount needed to feel it... i've had bad highs, but never as bad as taking that shit

out of everything i've ever put in my body antidepressants are the only thing i wouldn't give another chance...

i definitely had an extreme bad reaction to them though, like it'd be unlikely it'd get you that level of fucked... i had every bad symptom pretty much... i couldn't eat, sleep, i felt mentally and physically numb and detached, my insides felt like they were shaking and it made me anxious as fuck... i just desperately needed it to stop, and it felt like it wasn't gonna... it made shit not feel real, and just in the worst way possible not in the fun pcp way or some shit...

pain was literally the only thing that seemed to make some of those sensations stop, and it got to a point where it really just became hurt myself in a way that isn't gonna leave a mark for a while so that it chills out or feel that way and probably kill myself cuz it was unbearable... even 15 minutes of what i felt was way too long...

on the bright side no one knew what was going on... i hid it, and was able to deal with it quietly so shit worked out well enough

>>7912067
Doctors are assholes

Are ftm guys usually straight? What are some things I should know approaching a 10/10 ftm knowing that he's interested in playing with my dick but is scared

>>7913069
the majorety of ftms here seem to be straight but any ftm I've met in real life (including myself) is gay.
Just don't say any awkward things about genitals or boobs and you should be fine. maybe invite him to play vidya some time or watch a movie. Basically don't be an awkward fuck and your good to go.

>>7913069
Usually, but there's always variation. Many are gay/bi. Just treat him like any other male partner and don't be afraid to ask if he's comfortable with certain things or whatever.

>>7911654
Yeah. I am glad its gone then. That isn't work safe at all, even the top surgery photos are pushing it for me because I work around kids.

Medical or not, nothing below the waist is the better choice on a blue board.

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Dad's birthday tomorrow. Milestone thing. Talked to him over the phone and he's hiding how disappointed he is that I'm not going to be there.

...I hate myself

>>7913069
It's about 50/50, I've noticed.
You'd really be better off just getting to know him and working it out.

>>7913143
He doesn't want you to be sad, that is clear if he isn't making a big deal about it.

If you can't make it back now, maybe plan a trip back sometime soon to do one of his hobbies.

How do I look kinda male but without looking like I'm doing it on purpose and without looking like a gross dyke

Like you occasionally get reverse traps that look both cute and socially acceptable but andro enough to be mistaken for teenage boys with longer hair, is it just genetics or can it be achieved?

>>7896961
if i wear makeup and dress like the kimchi fags will i get ulzzang gf

>>7911556
>>7911570
Remember you can always get off them if you don't like it

>>7910942
>>7907432
I think that's a cis girl, I remember seeing her somewhere

>>7913173
I intentionally started dressing like a 40 year old man down to the new balance sneaks. Shitty polos, Seinfeld jeans, baseball cap, and I went from sometimes passing to passing pretty much all the time. Downside is that your personality better be good enough to compensate for this or no one will ever think you're chill and worth talking to again.

>>7913143

could always just celebrate late...

>>7913184
I look about 14 as a girl so I don't think it will work

Either way I need to obtain sexual intercourse which I don't think will happen if I dress that way if I already had trouble when looking normal

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>>7913173
>How do I look kinda male but without looking like I'm doing it on purpose and without looking like a gross dyke

just have a low voice, even with (somewhat) long hair nobody calls me a girl or anything like that. wing it desu, wear whatever looks good on you OR whatever you have laying around. Does it really matter?
Im wearing some starwars sweater I got from a friend I think and pajama pants so take my advice with a grain of salt

pic because I like my face for the first time in my life.

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>>7913250
Nice face

>>7913231
>>7913165
That's the plan, but still

>>7913242
Ah see usually people think I'm a 17 year old guy and I'm pretty decent looking if the people I've been with is an indicator of that. So it works for me is what I'm saying.

What you wanna stay away from is trendy clothes that demand attention. Go out in public and actually observe how the average man dresses. It's usually pretty different from how a teenage dyke would dress.

>>7902919
There's this one girl that's interested in me and we've been hanging out together for a while, how do I tell her I don't have a happy sausage?
Also tip for long hair without looking like a flaming faggot?

>>7913250
post beard hairs pls

>>7913306

cut it if you look like a faggot with it... what else?

>>7913270

i get you, i'm just saying don't dwell on bad shit you can't change and just focus on what you can do to make up for it instead...

>>7913319
I like it that's why I'm not cutting it. But I guess that means no tip.

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>>7913322
fair enough

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>tfw no ftm gym buddy to fool around with every once in a while in the locker rooms

Why are ftms so qt?

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>>7913317
mostly on right side

>>7913382
ftms are qt because magic

>>7913384
I saw one (I think) recently in the locker rooms and jesus feckin christ if he wasn't the most endearing looking lad I've ever seen.

I didn't ask, but I think I saw some residue scars beneath his nips.

What do you think are the chances of him being into dudes, statistically speaking?

>>7913390
pretty much 50/50 worldwide, depending on where you are, maybe 70% chance of gay

>>7913382
>tfw no cis gym buddy to spot me when I bench heavy

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Hows the day been, fellas? Fucked up my shot real bad yesterday, but todays been really chill.

>>7897853
Milo looks like the type who makes weird squeaking sound while taking a shit.

>>7902695
Japan does it, and pregnant ftms are insufferable, so sure. Just let me have a tube baby or something, make surrogacy less of a goose chase law-wise.

>>7905414
I never leave the house outside but always get called cute and funny. Watch people who have good chemistry, act out scenarios in your head, speak clear. Pretending to be a normie isn't too hard.

>>7906023
Wtc metalhead friend who will become my bf?

>>7911149
That's a girl anon. Someone roleplays her on fa.

>>7913306
Don't go bangless, have either light curls or really straight. Low ponytails are good for weird lengths.

>>7913435
How'd you fuck up your shot?

>>7913435
>Wtc metalhead friend who will become my bf?
record stores, metal concerts, wisconsin, norway, maybe the part of canada thats above wisconsin, guitar shops, pretty much anywhere.

my last shot hurt a lot and quite a bit of blood came out. I thought I was going to die.

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>>7913401
Wow, that many. Then I'll ask him to grab a drink next time I see him.

>>7913427
>tfw
Where you at brah?

>>7913467
413

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>>7913473
Across the great pond, feelsbadman

But you'll find one, the house of gains is home to many lonely dudes like me who are looking for friends

>>7913467
your dog is broken

>>7913384
furry

>>7911247
>Also, consider writing "I'm trans, is that cool?" somewhere so you can roll up your sleeve, or lift your shirt to have an interested party read it.
Do you seriously expect that to go down well around drunk faggots?

>>7913382
Because you either see girls or underage boys

>>7913344

well idk what you look like, idk what suits you and what doesn't... or why you're worried about looking like a fag honestly, if you like it then keep it, don't do a bunch of overly feminine shit to it... mostly leave it alone and really it depends on length

i prefer my hair long too, though it's getting fairly long at this point so i might cut it a little... it's about 6 inches past my shoulders though

>>7913347

yeah no sense in hating yourself...

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cisbro reporting, yell at me AMA whatever, ily little shits

tip of the day is always have a change of clothes in a bag in your car. nothing fancy, jeans, shirt, belt, socks, underwear, belt. maybe a pair of sneakers. you'll end up using it more than you'd expect, and kick yourself when you don't have it and need it.

>>7913306

I can tell you what it's like to be cis without trying to be a douchebag. I can't tell you what it's like to have conversations like that. I can offer the same advice I always do for tough talks- be straightforward, but nice, and make sure she understands that this is something you'd like her to take seriously, just for the next ten minutes. if you're honest and kind, you've done the best you can. if she freaks out, there's nothing you could do to prevent it. this last part is important- sooner before later, for her sake and yours regardless of outcome.

for me pic related is long hair, I'm a short fade guy. if it's what you mean by it too, make sure you can put it into something like this for formal occasions. you can always mess it up and style it differently for everyday life, but every haircut you get, ask yourself if you'd feel comfortable being best man, going to a funeral, or getting a job interview at a decent company wearing it.

I'll be brutally honest, if it goes below the nape, it's really damn hard to do anything with.

I said belt twice
I dishonor for famiry

>>7913927
I thought you were just putting extra emphasis on belt desu

Decided to make a life timeline, I hope this works

http://imgur.com/a/a7UJQ

>>7913382
>tfw no gym brofag to cock tease until he fucks my ass ragged in back seat of my car
>tfw no face

>>7913973
>http://imgur.com/a/a7UJQ
Get that hairstyle back maaaang, it really suits you.

You look like a chill indie guy who listens to too much Modest Mouse.

Overall you haven't changed a lot, but that's mostly because you looked pretty masculine to begin with.

>>7913572
Depends on the area, hence "consider".

I mean, I am Canadian... maybe we just really are nicer people on average. Excluding our serial killers, rapists, and gang members.

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>>7913997
>tfw no cock to fuck guys with when they cock tease me
>tfw no bf
>tfw no slightly smaller guy to caress and hold tight in hugs and tell him everything will be alright and then pound your cock into him because no cock or bf

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>>7913511
Dog-shaming, real classy.

>>7913679
Are you implying I'm transphobic famalam?

>>7913997
>tfw you're not the brofag
whylive.png

>>7914029
Last gym buddy I had looked like Gru from Despicable me. Nice guy, he is a personal trainer in the UK last I checked.

No u.s.t. there... thank dog.

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>>7914025
You sound like you could use a hug.

>>7913973
Harry, why do you live in a closet?

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>>7914059
Yeah, I really want to hug this guy named Gage specifically .

and also fugg him

>>7914065
I live in a tiny ass cardboard box/trailer, so I have to sleep on a bunk bed to save room. It's because I'm poor my dude

>>7913184
desu dressing like a dorky dad is kinda fashionable in certain groups

>>7914029
Nah I think he's saying that you wouldn't be able to spot at FTM even if you were looking at one because they often look like young DYELs or girls at the gym.

>>7914074
You live in a trailer? I thought you were in college?

>>7913973
I can't see much difference in your phase across the timeline, you're a convincing dude in all but the first image. And your 2013 hair is dope.

>>7914133
I am in school but it's not a college *wink wink nudge nudge*

>>7914143
y-you too

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>>7913938

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Any really /fit/bros here? I wanna get swole as fuck. The doctor who perscribed me T was a short dumpy little dude and when I mentioned how I wanted to build some muscle he started lecturing me on how FTMs can never get jacked because of tendon concerns. Anyone else hear anything about this or experience problems? I see pictures of buffed out guys all the time I'm starting to think the doc just has something against gains.

>>7914194
pretend I said that but with the trip on

>>7914242
he just sounds like a little bitchboi

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>>7914423
>>7914423
>>7914423

>>7914242
Here. Your doc sounds like a retard, I had no problems. If anything during this month my muscles got harder and "rounder".

>>7911556
Not a bad idea
I was on them for a bit before my insurance cocked up on me and I got weird about going back. Coming down from them was absolute balls, but it was a good bit of perspective. Made me a little spacy while i was on them, though. I got super more social, it was a good experience overall. YMMV, everyone reacts differently to medication and there's tons out there.

Mostly just be aware that it won't be an instant fix, no matter what your medication ends up being. The brain is too weird for that, they'll try you on something and see how it goes for a few weeks.