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I'm 26 should I transition or commit sodoku?
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>>7882383
>being able to survive to 26
>"trans"
sudoku
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>>7882387
I can't decipher this logic puzzle, mind unpacking it for me
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>>7882393
I'm gonna spell it out for you. You are not trans. Grow up and move on.
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>>7882393
If you (a person claiming they are trans) managed to not kill yourself by 26 (26 years of age, far too long for someone with real dysphoria to deal with living in constant agony and self hate), you are not really trans, and should commit suicide for wanting to throw innocent girls under the bus so you can crossdress, hon garbage.

Every """tranny""" starting over 22 should commit suicide so we don't have to deal with pretending your hon ass is a woman.
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>>7882411
why does everyone on 4chan advocate suicide? I'm sure there's someone on /an/ right now telling someone to kill themselves over some trivial animal related thing.
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>>7882403
>>7882411
I have a friend who didn't even accept they were trans until their mid 20s because they wanted to deny it given the environment they grew up in. They are starting their transition now. Why are trans so hateful to each other? Shouldn't you be supportive? No wonder you guys hate yourselves so much, you can't even love each other.
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>>7882411
What the fuck
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>>7882420
>first time cding in public was at 13
Fugg
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>>7882424
>loving trannies
why

I mean I like myself and all, but why bond with someone over such a trivial thing
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>>7882431
Every single fight for equal treatment has been won by the oppressed group banding together (as well as getting support from oppressors). If you treat each other like shit all of the time, you will never reach equality. That's part of why black people are still struggling so much, they are so hateful towards each other (with tons of slurs existing within their own community).
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>>7882424
"Can't even love each other
Why should I love disgusting freaks who are literally men in dresses? These people do nothing but pull back trans rights by a week each every time they step out in public. If you started over 22, you will NEVER be seen as a woman. You will NEVER look like anything but a disgusting man in a dress, and EVERYBODY YOU WILL EVER MEET will hate you for it, and pin that hate on every single real trans girl, thinking they're just as much of fetishist freaks as that man they saw in the woman's room.
>>7882427
T. 30 year old hon
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>>7882431
I have equal treatment, thank you very much. And that is not because of hons standing up for me. It is because my country is not actually retarded and I am normal myself, so people are not weirded out by me and act normal around me.

I'm not gonna destroy that by letting a bff cross dresser into my life, with them crushing everything I worked so hard for.
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kys
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>>7882439
Good thing anybody who hit an age like mid 20s can't possibly be trans, because the dysphoria would have driven them to suicide by then. If you do not have dysphoria, you are not trans. I do love other REAL trans women. Not freaks who like jerking off to themselves in panties.
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this
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all degenerates need to kys
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>>7882383
You will most likely you will have trouble passing considering the age you are starting at without corrective surgeries (some people on this board will argue even FFS is a scam and only works for a small minority of TS women, see https://boards.4chan.org/lgbt/thread/7878466)


But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. It's hard to judge how successful you're transition will be considering you haven't really defined what your goals / expectations are or posted any pictures of yourself for us to judge.

Based on what you've given me to work with the best advice I can offer is to think of it this way: Would you rather age like a man and continue to allow testosterone to fuck up your body even more which will most likely cause your dysphoria to get progressively worse, or would you rather transition and at best pass and live full time as a woman or at the very least be a GNC femboy that takes HRT and know that at least the effects of testosterone will no longer continue to cause you to age like a man. Good luck OP and also don't listen to the trolls / caraposter in this thread claiming you aren't trans if you don't start HRT by age X, they are taking a typology used to describe trans people that has many holes in it to begin with and twisting it even further from the truth to shit-post with.

Good luck OP.
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>>7882456
You will most likely have trouble passing*
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This. Don't do it, OP.
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>>7882383
This thread sucks
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>>7882442
This, desu.
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>>7882462
is that what you tell yourself to keep your trans feels at bay cara?
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>>7882424
4chan trannies are just psychotic, don't pay them mind. Half the people posting about how they're qt3.14 early transitioners or whatever is probably a hon or a repressor (like Cara) and people here think "passing" means being a 10?10 or looking like an anime character.

The sad fucked up fact is that /mtfg/ is saner about tranny shit than the rest of /lgbt/ solely because Caraposter is scared of going there.
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can I still be a male on HRT though
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>>7882475
Hons are psychotic, you fucking cuck, not us.
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>>7882476
I mean
26 is a bit late for femboi stuff but there's no reason why not
If you go andro it'd be fine
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>>7882479
>writes insane wall of text blaming older trans women for all of your life's problems.
>probably deluded self into thinking they pass
the age meme is a fucking meme lad, it's all genetics. i'm sorry you fell for the memes and have to be constantly angry because of them
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>>7882383
seek psychiatric help for both conditions
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>>7882448
What? I've had crippling depression and I never actually killed myself. This person was depressed for ages and took it out on everyone else, they are much better now that they have come out and are doing hormone therapy. You're a horrible person evidently.
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Don't listen to them, anonette.

I transitioned at 25, am an agp transbian and I'm goddamn proud of it!
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>>7882496
Cara why are you scared of going to /mtfg/? is it because unlike the rest of /lgbt/ people don't buy into your memes there and you're afraid they'll finally make you transition?
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>>7882493
you forgot to mention that you are considering detransitioning hun
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>>7882538
because it seems you're afraid of talking to trannies who are actually informed, so you just try to spread your awful autistic memes in the wild to any trannies stupid enough to believe you.
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>>7882496
>in that presenting before HRT usually indicates a false identity.
>child girls have woman level estrogen
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>>7882541

Said who? Where did you get such information?
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>>7882614
fuck off, arin hanson.
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>>7882614
m8 when you shitty useless definitions stop fitting reality completely it's time to stop being a retard and seek therapy
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>>7882614
But many of them pass despite this and despite their ages. At the end of the day, isn't that the whole point of transitioning? Whether you think they're trans or not doesn't really change it. Just accept that you're trans, cara, and get on hrt. You have a pretty good chance at passing desu. But do it soon.
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>>7882614
none?
are you sure, cara?
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>>7882624
your*
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>>7882614
Caraposter your own definitions have absolutely nothing to do with medical definitions. You're not a doctor, you're just an ugly chaser with mid-functioning autism.

You have cortorted yourself into such a retarded notion of what "trutrans" (a fucking spook) is that you've reached the point where there is actually no such thing as a real trans person.

You need either need therapy or a bullet through the brain.
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jesus christ. the trannies here are legitimately psychotic.

just do it OP. try any possible outcome before suicide.
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>>7882758
I always get the feeling a lot of the "I'm a cute early transitioner trutrans hsts" memers aren't even trannies at all.
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I guess there are worse things to do with your time, but I don't understand why you can't do both.
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>>7882383
If those are the two options you might as well transition first and see if it works out.
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>>7882768
hsts is a fucking meme from a new wave of blanchard loving agps who need to fuck men to feel like real women, its literally the kind of self hating 'you're not your real gender' that hsts sums up. you're a fag in a dress whatevr. its literally just /pol/ dropouts who use it
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To commit Sudoku, you must first solve Sudoku in polynomial time.
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>>7882785
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Commit sudoku and then kys tbf
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>>7882614
Can you just kill yourself already, Cara? Either KYS or transition, because your posts are fucking stupid and annoying. Repression-Cara sucks.
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>>7882383
Hey, fellow 26 year old 1990-fag here. Although I've been transitioning for a few years now. You may not be completely hopeless.

At least get on HRT to prevent yourself from getting more masculine. Even if you don't socially transition, at least do it for your mental health.

Whether you can actually pass or not? It depends on your starting point, AKA, how much waiting until 26 fucked you with masculinization. Is your underbust measurement (ribcage size) ridiculous for a woman? How broad are your shoulders? How tall are you? Do you have a radio announcer voice? Masculine facial features that FFS can't fix (horse-face, long midface, huge head size, etc)? How much money do you have for transition surgeries like FFS, hair removal, etc?

Your answers to these questions will help determine how well your transition will go.
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>>7882485
Show us a single early transitioner that doesn't pass, hon. You can't.
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>>7882487
Your friend is destroying trans acceptance by existing, I hope you're happy with all the lives (from early transitioners) that you're ruining.
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>>7882622
>>7882624
>>7882625
>>7882630
>>7882681
>>7883003
Why are people getting so worked up over Cara speaking the TRUTH?
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>>7883151
>implying
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>>7883175
>agp
>not trans
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>>7883175
Cara is no truth bringer. Rather, Cara is just an an annoyance that spams up this board. Constantly creating the same threads over and over again, and derailing discussions whenever possible.
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>>7883151
All of those people technically pass as girls to the general public, like Eli isn't very famous, so it's not like she's gonna get clocked when she goes to get something to eat or whatever.
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>>7883175
>falling for it
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>>7882475
Tbdesu I post things like that because I think they're funny and /lgbt/ is easy as fuck to troll because very few people aren't massive newfags
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>>7883186
how does she pass exactly?
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Sodoku ftw
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>>7882411
The fact that you people can be this mean yet still demand the utmost respect and support from society will forever continue to baffle me.
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>>7882383
>26 years old
>hasn't transitioned
>thinks he's trans
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Consider sudoku
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>>7884050
To be fair the vast majority of people born in the early 90s repressed into their 20s.
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>>7884070
The majority of public knowledge on trans stuff in the early 00s and earlier was generally revolved around fearmongering documentaries that channels like TLC pumped out like there was no tomorrow all throughout the 90s and early 00's and knowledge of HRT was basically non-existant. People just thought mtf's chopped their dick off and got breast implants.
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>started with HRT at age 18
>am 21 now
>still a hon

I-I did it, r-right guys?
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>>7884182
This. Once I realized there were people who transitioned and weren't prostitutes or pornstars I decided to take the leap.
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>>7884070
>>7884182
>>7884219
Can confirm.

My only trans "rolemodel" during my late teens was literally Mr(s). Garrison.
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>>7884182
Oh yeah trust me I know. It blows my mind how different it is for teens nowadays. Trans kids being visibly out at high schools? The fuck?
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Op here repressed because of family unfortunately I came out at an early age but it was different time and my mexican catholic parents hated lgbt. I got sexually abused and they basically put in on the fact I act like a girl. I tried killing myself but threw up the pills and fell asleep. I didn't know about hormones until 20/21 and so I tried and my parents found my pills. I have been trying for years but it's never gone through. I want to get away from my family transition and never contact them again. I know I'm kinda fucked but I gave myself the alternative to either transition or kill my self this year so.
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JESUS christ you guys are savage. Anyway I am an earlier referenced newfag who is easily triggered. Is 16 still early enough to transition or will I just be a hon and should commit soduku for not being effeminate enough earlier in life?
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>>7884296
Hispanic families are really fucking shitty environments to be trans in, huh? I literally only was able to start transition because I moved to London.
>>7884368
Read Stirner.
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What does 'well above the threshold for applicability for medical transitioning' mean. Also mobile so idk how to respond rip
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>>7884390
Cara you literally don't know anything about trans medical science.

The good news is that I'm going to find you, kill you, and turn your skull into a goblet so we can all be free from your mental illness.
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>>7884441
Cara's just being a spoilsport because she thinks you're fucked if you didn't start at 10-13, you should be okay depending on genetics.
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>>7884441
What caraposter means is that he's batshit insane, and most likely created this entire universe of unfounded bullshit theories about transition to justify not transitioning. Your biggest mistake is listening to this lunatic.
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>>7884370
>Hispanic families are really fucking shitty environments to be trans in, huh?
Such shit like I was the black sheep because I acted the way I acted and said the things I said but the sexually abusers got off scott free but I was the freak and shame of the family.
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>>7884443
Congratulations!
You are now on an FBI watch list!
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>>7884470
I AM the FBI.
>>7884456
At a skull goblet factory.

It's how I got the idea.
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>>7882420
>NOT
>TRANS
>ENOUGH

maybe he has a fucking brain and decided against throwing away his life time and time again on a 'maybe I'll be happier'

it's called rationality, learn it
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>>7884460
I'm Cuban and my grandparents from Cuba are the best republican closet racists you can get. They are amazing. Why am I even posting here I'm a straight man
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>>7882420
>>7882462
>>7882496

>a creepy narcissistic man decides who's trans or not
Going a little over the head, aren't we?
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>>7884443
>The good news is that I'm going to find you, kill you, and turn your skull into a goblet so we can all be free from your mental illness.
Trannies and gentlehons, the aggressiveness of late transitioners.
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>>7885592
What about the creativity, the craftsmanship! making a skull goblet takes effort you know, it's a painstaking process, and human bone can be iffy to work with!
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>>7885593
Why weren't you?
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>>7885593
Cara you do realize there is still hope for you? How can you not see that you fucking fuck? Also what do you mean by "presenting"? Are you saying there was a time in your childhood where you presented as girl at school / around peers but weren't allowed to start HRT?
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>>7885671
Most parents wouldn't let their son start HRT and would probably discipline or scare him out of presenting as a girl.
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>>7885687
Well no shit, thats what happened to probably 90% of the people cara likes to aggressively shit on for not starting HRT when they were prepubertal, I'm just trying to get some context as to how cara thinks she is any different than someone thats starting HRT in their late teens / early 20s.
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>>7885593
>i was just never able to transition.
Nothing but excuses of a pathetic non-trans autogynephile tbqh.
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>>7885772
>but it's too hard to talk about
this board is so fucking sad.
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>>7885772
>Basically yes, but it's too hard to talk about and I don't want that info being passed around.

Thats understandable, I hope you can also understand why I would be skeptical of anything you say because of how many times I've seen you lie on this board but regardless, if you take such a dogmatic approach to Blanchard's theories on TS women (which I think you do), and assuming you do in fact fit the model of "HSTS" or "trutrans" do you also accept that it's pretty much unheard of, at least according to Kay Brown (who's wordpress blog i'm sure you are familiar with) for HSTS trans to make it past 30 without transitioning? Why continue waiting when it's obvious you will never make it in this world as a man?
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>>7885892
Cara is patently AGP and doesn't even follow Blanchard's theories properly. She just uses them for her early transitioner trolling because the blanchardian anon taught them to her.
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>>7885942
Well let's just assume you are wrong for a moment and that Cara is in fact hsts like she claims,
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>>7885971
Then why is she into girls?

Then why is she into trans girls?

Then why does she express her sexuality in such a male manner as stalking?

Then why does she repress in a typically AGP manner?
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>>7882383
transition it's funner and u can shitpost with even more irony
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>>7886022
>Then why does she express her sexuality in such a male manner as stalking?
your misandry / sexism is showing.
>>7886051
>>7886063
Also, answer my question you fuck.
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>>7886086
>assuming you do in fact fit the model of "HSTS" or "trutrans" do you also accept that it's pretty much unheard of, at least according to Kay Brown (who's wordpress blog i'm sure you are familiar with) for HSTS trans to make it past 30 without transitioning? Why continue waiting when it's obvious you will never make it in this world as a man?
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>>7886108
no its not you fucking idiot, it will be though if you don't act soon how many times do I have to fucking say this.
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>>7886071
>your misandry / sexism is showing.
Men's and women's sexualities are different. Both can be expressed negatively, but stalking is a typical negative expression of male sexuality, not female.

If you're so keen on putting political correctness ahead of facts, then you messed up by not refusing to accept Blanchard in the first place.

This is part of the typology, so I don't know what you are thinking interpreting her as HSTS while ignoring all the reasons she isn't and basic parts of the very concept of HSTS.
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>>7886118
SHUT THE FUCK UP I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE YOU ON WHETHER OR NOT CARA FITS INTO SOME BULLSHIT TYPOLOGY I NEVER EVEN SAID I AGREED WITH IN THE FIRST PLACE, FUCK OFF.
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>>7886051
>parents were weird in that they were advocates for "gender neutral" parenting but at the same time liked to think that everyone existed in a sort Christian traditionalist belief system (hard to explain...) so really they just didn't want any "offensive" gender expression.
What was this gender neutral parenting? How can it have been neutral if they were so controlling when it came to "offensive" expression?
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>>7886125
>>7885971
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>>7886139
Notice the word "assume." When did I ever say actually agreed with any of the typology? To be honest some of it seems like it makes sense but I still have to do a lot of reading before I feel I fully understand it and there is already a lot of it that seems like total bullshit, I should of never engaged with you in the first place but I was simply pointing out that stalking is not an inherently "male mannered thing to do" like your post claims, okay?
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>>7886051
Holy shit we have a nearly identical origin story. Same thing for me, I sort of socially transitioned at school, kept presenting more and more femininely, my parents clearly didn't like it, most of my friends were girls. I begged and pleader my parents to allow me to start hormones but they wouldn't allow it. No matter how much I begged and cried.

Of course, puberty happened, and all my female friends disappeared. Because the social dynamic changed from the fact that I was no longer seen by them as "one of the girls".

It's really not too late for you, though. At least get on hormones to prevent further masculinzation. Passing may come in time. I used to spend (and sometimes still do) so much time thinking back to my childhood, thinking of things I could have done differently to get around my parents' reign and gotten my hands on HRT. But that's just not the way things turn out.

I think that this dividing everyone up into groups of tru-trans and agp based on such meaningless facts (age of transition, sexual attraction, etc) is pointless and unproductive. You don't need all these criteria to pinpoint who's AGP, it's usually pretty obvious.

Anyway, it's not too late, seriously. Please please please consider transitioning. You could be so much happier. And if you started now you'll at least have a chance. If you don't, you are going to have such major regret in your 30s when you see all the 20-somethings passing (or at least getting damn close to it) while you're trapped permanently in the body of a fully developed man. Do you really want to go down that road?

Yeah, it sucks we couldn't have started sooner. But we are still in a window of opportunity where we at least have a chance. Don't blow that.
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>>7886159
What was the hands off approach like?

Which gender expectations did they actually abandon and which did they enforce? They let you have long hair which is more than most parents would.

If you are implying you have younger siblings, how did their approach change for them?
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>>7886190
Transition isn't right for everyone.
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>>7886207
How so? If a person has gender dysphoria, they should transition. Why shouldn't they?
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>>7886208
Don't be so dogmatic. There are countless drawbacks to transition.
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>>7886224
Cara you are in your early 20s, most of those drawbacks don't really apply to you, sure you are never going to look like someone who started HRT at 12 or 13 but all things considered you have a lot going for you... Even if you never pass (which to be honest I would be surprised if you didn't end up passing) wouldn't you rather at least be on HRT so you know you won't continue to age like a disgusting man?
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>>7886237
>most of those drawbacks don't really apply to you
Do you have any idea of the social and medical repercussions of transition?
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>>7886234
Were there any other limits to the expression you were allowed or times you were chastised, like when your clothing was discovered?
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>>7886258
Of course I do, god it amazes me how you can be so smart and yet so dumb at the same time. Let me ask you this, do you realize the social and medical repercussions of NOT transitoning?

Also, my entire family on my moms side has a history of breast cancer, I very well be giving my self cancer by transitioning, but I'm conscious enough of my situation to know that if I don't transition I will never find any kind of happiness in this world and inevitably kill myself. Why can't you see that for yourself?? Do you have some kind of medical condition that prevents you from transitioning? If no considering your bone structure / how obviously strong your dysphoria is it's pretty clear what your path forward in life is, and its not killing yourself.
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>>7886306
>so smart
Why do you say that?

You shouldn't assume everyone is like you, completely given up on anything besides transition.
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>>7886348
What were the feminine things you did that got you bullied?

You were bedridden with the extreme OCD? I didn't know that could happen. What behavior did the OCD affect?
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>>7882383
you should commit to sudoku, yes.

It's a healthy activity for your brain.
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>>7886348
>i began to develop extreme OCD as a means of regulating my thoughts and self image that eventually ballooned into something extreme and basically schizophrenic that kept me from socializing or from attending class most of the time. again, my parents were either scared or too passive to ever help me and i was mostly bedridden for the large percentage of high school.

its like i could have written this myself
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>>7886448
What gendered thinking were you afraid of?
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>>7886468
What were the thoughts/abilities you would avoid? Why would you hate them so much if you already know some gendered activities like the dressing were pleasant to you?
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>>7886258
Sure there are social and medical repercussions to transitioning. Financial, too. But for someone with gender dysphoria you also have to weigh the repercussions of NOT transitioning, or at the very least, of not getting on HRT. Especially when you are standing at the edge of the cliff at your early-mid 20s. "Second puberty" is an idea that wasn't invented out of nowhere. There's a reason people become unpassable as they get older, and you will change so much between the ages of 25-30 that your gender dysphoria will explode and you will become unpassable at the same time. A terrible consequence of repressing too long. You have to be stupid to let it happen to you, these days with how much knowledge you have about transitioning.
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>>7886529
What feminine behavior had you presented before and been bullied for?
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>>7886517
Growing old is always unpleasant and passing is always a matter of luck. Don't make it sounds like it's full transition immediately or guaranteed misery and suicide.
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>>7886616
>>7886448

So if you accept that you are trans and also believe you are a subgroup of TS that statistically are far more likely to need transition to alleviate dysphoria why don't you at least try?
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>>7886616
Parts of your history did sound HSTS, but the dressing and the style of repression don't fit.
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>>7886710
I wasn't the one saying that I was HSTS.
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you implied you thought you were in this thread see,>>7885593
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>>7886717
I was just commenting. Do you think the typology is right and that you're AGP?
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Just grow up past the childish fantasies and accept that you were born with a male body. Pursue a woman even if you're not into women, make her your wife, raise children with her, live your assigned role.

Age has nothing to do with it, neither does "passing", that's all immature, short-termed nonsense. It is not currently medically possible to make a person born with a male body into a biological female (no vagina, no womb), hence this is a pointless road to venture down that will lead to only emptiness and pain in the long run. Once you surrender to gender dysphoria you are throwing away your life. It's impossible to ever have a normal, healthy and fulfilling life as a tranny regardless of how well you pass.
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>>7886807 #

Not so I know a girl who was a guy and has two children with a third on the way. Yes she's pregers
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>>7882475
>4chan posters are just trolls or psychotic

Fixed man. A huge percentage of people here are just trolls and post about wanting to murder and rape little kids just to piss people off or tell everyone to kys because they had fries with their hamburger instead of baked potatoes. The rest are genuinely mentally unstable or even totally psychotic/shizophrenic and totally out of touch with reality. Never, ever come here for any genuine advice, that is fucking retarded. You'll either become suicially depressed and kys or shoot up a fuckton of people and kys.
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>>7886807
t. future hon
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Lol, TERF's invaded /lgbt/ again
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damm best thing ive read today... hard truth though
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>>7882411
O rly? Try being repressed by Christianity hardcore which suicide is the ultimate sin.
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>>7882442
Haha im 27 not even on mones already been addressed as female even in boy mode etc in public you must have bad genes.
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>>7886051
The origin story of Cara holy shit. Well hon, even if your AGP, your a lot more trutrans than some AGPs myself included.
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Transition if it's what you want, then if your life has not improved after 10 years, you can re-consider sudoku. Don't terminate your life until all options have been exhausted to possibly improve it.
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>>7882442
>If you started over 22
That seems like a really arbitrary age. At 22 I was just as masculine as I was at 25.
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>>7891973
>At 22 I was just as masculine as I was at 16.
Ftfy
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>>7891973
4chan tends to meme with ages. 22 isn't optimal (and neither is 15-16 tbqh), but it'll be a lot harder since many people have grown in between those ages. Someone who's masculine at 16 might become much more masculine at 22. For example, growing from 5'9 to 6'3, starting to bald, have full body and facial hair, etc.
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>>7882383
Kill yourself.You won't be able to transition back,see a shrink really you probably have some mental issues.
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>>7882456
>linking skull autist threads
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>>7882625
She cant get on hrt.
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>>7896801
Ugly≠Doesn't pass
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>>7897021
>aged horribly
kek, she's 16.
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>>7897126
nothing went wrong, lol, she's just an ugly (still passing, though) jewish girl.
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