/mtfg/ - "male" to female general

I found these links for voice training, I hope one of you girls finds them helpful!

http://www.looking-glass.greenend.org.uk/voice.htm

http://shevoice.blogspot.nl/2009/01/important-pitch-range-resonance-depth.html

http://www.nyspeechandvoicelab.net/transgender/voice-feminization/

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i wish i had cock in my robo vagina

>>7869393
I wish my fucking muscles worked properly
I feel sick whenever I hear myself speak

There's a transgirl near me looking for men

How far into a date would you think it'd take her to realize?

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>work schedule all over the place for the past month
>wake up at 3 AM for a 5 AM shift
>shift today starts at 11
Kill me pls

>>7869383
>this is only true if you have autism
Are you forgetting what general you're on?

>>7869400
well, how well can you conceal your tits?

>>7869369
I dunno it's just. Bugging me. Giving me itchy brain. It still doesn't make sense to me how that comes across.
But yeah whatever.

I meant man or woman up as in committing to one or the other. Because it's not outwardly one now.

I'm not a girl. not a girl at all

>>7869404
Very well

>>7869409
Then I guess until you open your mouth

>>7869414
yes her.

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>>7869402
>wonders when Lana will start gendering you male
>because you're a man

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>>7869406
People are extremely bad judges of their own behavior. Like, for reference sake I assumed I probably came across as masculine in person for literally years following transition. Then I met my current partner, explained that at one point, and then they nearly fell over laughing. It doesn't apply online given what they were laughing at was entitlely in the body language, but it's similar in concept. Your online persona just so happens to lean pretty strongly fem and you're likely to remain pretty oblivious as to why.

Idk though, isn't your irl presentation pretty feminine? I got the impression hearing you talk about it that strangers gendered you female

>>7869427
you really gotta sort yourself out dude

>>7869400
Either she hears your voice or sees your girlface.

More importantly, Is she hot?

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>>7869428
Idk maybe you're confusing masculine with confident or self assured or something. Even with you taking about hating yourself a lot when it comes to other people that's how it seems.
I just think I'm really faggy more than girly

Well yeah it is. You're right I have long hair, wear makeup, etc. Strangers do gender me female.

>>7869432
that's why the major is repressing. it's because he can't do var if he had transitioned during ww2(also he'd be gassed)

>>7869434
>faggy more than girly
That's literally the same thing.

>>7869406
I think my first message to you is that you basically sound like a transgirl

That's a little different then a cis girl and that is kinda an in between
>>7869429
I'm sorted

I'm a legal female that identifies as a man and has a penis, but sounds like a girl

>>7869440
Definitely seems sorted, my b.

>>7869428
>People are extremely bad judges of their own behavior.
Yeah, I think it's interesting how many trans girls tried to repress and thought they were masculine af pre-transition, but then they come out and their friends are like "yeah, we can tell"

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>>7869438
It's not though?

>>7869440
I don't want to be a girl though.

>>7869445
aren't you the same guy who said he wishes he could get pregnant though?

>>7869445
I didn't say you had to be, I said you sound like a transgirl

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>>7869434
Not really confusing them, I have enough wherewithal to know that in person I come across as fairly socially awkward and insecure. Masculine or feminine, I'm definitely not confident. The mannerisms they laughed at were stuff like my vocal inflection, effeminate body language and stuff like how I tend to have a lot of hip movement. Stuff that on a guy would seem very faggy. Or girly. The two words honestly mean almost the same thing.

Doesn't it bother you when strangers gender you female?

>>7869444
I've asked about this before and yeah. Usually people can at least tell something is off about you.

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>>7869447
Yeah I also explained some of the reasons I felt that way too

>>7869448
Oh ok.
Sorry I'm just getting overly defensive

>>7869445
How so, isn't a fag an effeminate, ie girly, man?

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>>7869449
It's kind of a weird thing. It does bother me but also simultaneously is affirming that I look how I want. It only really bother ls me when it's people I know well enough to know me.

Do they really? Fine yea I guess im extremely girly

>>7869451
Yeah I'm girly then

>>7869449
yeah, makes sense.

So far the only people I've been outed to who actually knew me pre-trans are my parents, but I'm curious to see how some of the people I was friendly with in high school would react to finding out.

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>>7869414
I wanna be like Schödinger

I feel ill

>>7869448
Have u slept at all?

Is it weird to not be able to imagine/want life past 30? I feel like I'd rather die young

I pushed all my friends away again and disappeared from any means of contact again

But I don't feel satisfied, just numb and lonely

>>7869463
Hip hop ill or like Taylor Swift sick?

>>7869471
just unwell

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>>7869458
It's kind of interesting just straight up asking, I have brought it up with people who knew me pretrans before. I assumed I came across as at least kinda gay considering that people pressured me into doing shit like kissing boys. Apparently my vibe wasn't that gay though.

The only consistent ones have been "I assumed you might be asexual," and "you gave the strong vibe of someone deeply uncomfortable with themself, and trying to be someone they weren't"

>>7869455
That is definitely at least a bit odd. At least ime most nb people shoot for andro because they like the ambiguity.

You do you I guess, I'm sorry if I have a tendency to come off as at least a bit of a shitlord. You have to keep in mind that I'm a binary trans woman and automatically see parallels.

>>7869470
I'm considering doing this, but I'm going to hold it until my emotional state is sort of stabilized.

>>7869470
Why'd you do that

nothing like listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSvkfy3ddrk
and crying over all the depraved shit you did for all sorts of weirdos in search for validation

>>7869472
I'm sorry anon

I need to start exercising in some way I think my back is always sore lately

one second i want people to say nice things to me, and the next i want them to bully me

>>7869478
I.. don't know. I guess I feel like I'm a disgusting awful person and don't want to inflict my presence on people.

If I'm all alone then nobody can hurt me anymore right? The only person I can blame for traumatizing me any further is myself?

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>>7869473
It's alright. Most people are like that to be honest.
It's not like I even get it so I don't have the right to correct people anyway

>>7869479
>crying over all the depraved shit you did for all sorts of weirdos in search for validation
Lol same

>>7869485
like i told my really really good friend all about it and it felt so fucking good

i mean ive probably cried for like 9 hours now on and off but im better now

>>7869482
I got u
https://youtu.be/FdNS95hpL-o

>>7869473
huh.
It's interesting that they would think you're asexual, and not just assume you're gay.

>you gave the strong vibe of someone deeply uncomfortable with themself, and trying to be someone they weren't
I wouldn't be surprised if I get this one a lot as well.

>>7869483
You sound like a hard person to keep happy.

it's impossible to just live as male on HRT your whole life right? at some point youre going to have to decide one way or the other

what do i have to add to my diet to make my skin as smooth and wrinkle-free as possible?

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>still dark
>clear night
>go out and have a smoke and look at the stars
Being up at this ungodly hour for a shift that I didn't have to work was worth it

>>7869490
Idk, I wasn't exactly flamboyant so I can see how they would get that impression. Plus I did have at least a handful of crushes on girls but was always weirded out about sex and stuff so it stands up.

I suspect every tranny would get that answer unless they were a top tier repressor. Most that are here really aren't though, there's a reason they aren't transitioning in their 30s.

>>7869485
It's a binary world desu

>>7869501
staying hydrated is good for your skin at least

i like when the mirror lies to me

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>>7869503
It sure is
Rip

>>7869511
IM
LOOKING
AT
THE
MAN
IN
THE
MIRROR

After having thought about it for some time

I think I *do* want to have kids.

Which is a shame

>>7869513
sorry to hear that

>>7869512
tugg jaime ears

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>>7869503

>>7869513
i'm asking him to change his dose

>>7869523
i actually wonder if i caused myself some sorta state of dehydration

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>tfw you ordered a water filter and a one-liter water bottle so now you'll always be hydrated

>>7869484
hm well I have no idea about that first part but I kinda doubt it is true

second part can be true I guess but I don't think it is generally fulfilling or whatever to exist like that

also sorry but I'm really tired I might fall asleep here so if I don't reply sorry about that

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>>7869522
>licking vagina
Fucking gross
Girls might be pretty but I draw the line at doing stuff with vags

>>7869528
>water filter
nice you wont be getting that jewstrogen from the tap water

>>7869530
some look good

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>>7869511
sorry.
i learned the hard way that mirrors don't lie.
if you're looking @ yourself through your phone's camera, your phone is lying to you

>>7869489
hm seems interesting thank you for the link I might try some of it later

>>7869530
it's just like a gaping hole with bologna on the sides..

>>7869538
they both lie in different ways

>>7869538
i look better in the mirror though

>>7869537
that's like the top of the line stuff

i just got a shitty pur filter that you clip on your sink lol

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>>7869487
That's good to get it out to someone though
I don't like talking about it

Also thanks I'm on a huge placebo kick. Reminds me of being a teenager again

>>7869519
Pinch nim cheeks

>>7869530
I wouldn't try it
It's actually disgusting

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>>7869543
then i guess everyone's eyes lie too

also whoops i entered my trip in wrong

>>7869529
I don't need a fulfilling life I think, I just need to survive is all.

>>7869541
>with bologna on the sides..
that's just a sign that a woman has been less than pure (we call them "roasties" and rightfully shun them)

>>7869528
why do you not just buy bottled water instead?

>>7869525
Using spiro keeps me dehydrated. :3

>>7869551
>I don't like talking about it
it made me realise just how damaged i really am in the end which for some reason made me feel good???

>>7869552
not what I meant, what you see in the mirror is inaccurate because it's flipped.

>>7869538
>i learned the hard way that mirrors don't lie.
What if it's a convex or concave mirror?

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>>7869560
Idk i find I end up ignoring a lot of the things in my life like that so I look at myself as an unbalanced substance abusing failure.
Laying everything out like that makes you feel like ok maybe there's a reason Im like this. Makes it feel like there's a solution

>>7869558
because they always run out before grocery day so im left without water for like 3 days

>>7869569
before hrt i was honestly depressed 24/7 without really knowing it and drugs made me feel content

now i dont need drugs to feel content, i feel okay now

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>>7869535
Maybe if you're into that sort of thing

>>7869551
For real
This is the kind of stuff that makes me legit wonder how someone could think I'm a lesbian. I was under the impression lesbians actually liked vagina.

>>7869541
>gaping
Uhh wat

>>7869574
Isn't your tap water drinkable?

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>>7869563
idk.

>>7869562
i know, they aren't lying, they're just wrong about 1 detail

>>7869574
then just buy more. also is grocery day like the one day of the week you go shopping?

>>7869538
Distortion is embedded in optics, though.

>>7869579
>about 1 detail
It's pretty major though, given that all faces are asymmetrical

i wanna drink elanna's tap water

who here /acen/ registered?

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>>7869577
Same about the first part
I hope I get to the second part

>>7869578
I tried it during my bi phase. Was nasty.
I knew a lesbian that was grossed out by vaginas. She hated them.
Though I always thought she'd come out as trans

>>7869588
dont get me wrong i might just be feeling this way now

i seriously want off this roller coaster

>>7869578
I may have exaggerated for dramatic effect >.>

also yes it is but it tastes like shit so the filter acts more like a flavor-enhancer while scrubbing out any remaining contaminates it might have

>>7869580
yeah why would i go to the grocery store more than once a week

>wake up
>conetits got bigger
Reeee why can't my stupid body move the fat to my ass or face instead

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>tfw still alive

>>7869593
ikr
i have like no butt

>>7869593
>tfw fat still goes to stomach and chest instead of anywhere else

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>>7869589
You're on this ride forever

>>7869387
>The Major is awesome and I want to be like her
reminder she was born male.

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>>7869583
it's hard to resent that fact.
if something looks ok flipped 1 way, then why not the other, you're just too used to seeing it that 1 way.
when i realized that & got used to seeing it flipped the way it is irl, my relfection started looking bad, but not my picture.
when i realized this, everything was ok

>>7869596
I was considering getting those fat graft surgeries since I gained weight on purpose for HRT but I figure I might as well wait like 2 years at least figure

Right now my figure is a most unflattering 36-36-36 LOL

I really don't want to lose the weight in case it's useful later but holy hell I look awful now

Better do lunges and squats for that booty we want sis

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>>7869528
You did well.

>>7869554
well just surviving is okay I guess but enjoying at least some of your existence rather than simply existing would be more desirable I think

>>7869592
because some foods don't last a week or if you don't have enough space for a one week supply of everything.

>>7869603
that's not canon I thought

>>7869610
I'd buy $400 worth of groceries every 3-4 weeks while living in a 30ft camper trailer.
Just gotta buy the right stuff.
It all fit

>>7869609
There is no such thing as enjoyment in my life

Just waiting to die alone

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>>7869577
>now i dont need drugs to feel content, i feel okay now
Holy fuck please teach me how

>>7869588
She still might yet

>>7869584
It's mountain fresh and about as clean as city water gets. Have some :3

>>7869590
Damn
Feels good to live in a place where I can just get water for practically nothing all the time.

>>7869617
>Holy fuck please teach me how
i mean idk if it'll last but with hrt i just feel good now

sure im an emotional fucking mess and i cant do anything right but just knowing that i cant get any worse and i might have hope is just good

i mean drugs are fun and all but i dont need them

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Why do I want to kms so much
Life is looking upward now but I still hate myself

>>7869613
I know it's possible but there is no doubt fresh food is better than canned food/prepared meals. we only have a small fridge and freezer too.

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>>7869623
Cause depression is a bitch

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>>7869594
>that moment you wake up and you realise you're still alive

I don't have to worthy about penis atrophy if I'm getting suporn srs right

>>7869628
What's so good about Dr Suporn?

>>7869629
Synthetic uterus

>>7869622
That sounds nice, I've basically been drug dependant for 7 years with no signs of it stopping

Transition did nothing for my coping strategies, just made me had to use them less

>>7869632
pls explain

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>>7869637
Transition is a meme

Welp, first appointment with Endo tomorrow and I've got to take like three different buses to get there. Going to get my hair cut today, so wish me luck famalam

>>7869617
if the filter makes my water taste okay then it won't be so bad

$30 for the filter, $30 for 3 replacement filters, replace them like 2-3 months

seems affordable enough

>>7869643
>Going to get my hair cut toda
don't do it, anon

>>7869642
>Tfw evolving

>>7869642
>ywn magically become a cis girl
why even live

>>7869615
well I hope that won't be true forever but at the same time I'm not sure what I can do to help you :/ I would like to try to help but I don't really know anything beyond you are unhappy

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>>7869649
Tfw stuck in between

>>7869650
Feels bad

>tfw look like a weird creepy long-haired guy in the mirror as well as in pictures

>>7869642
Is transition a meme
Or did we get memed into it

I betcha I could have hacked it as a boy

>>7869613
I'll teach u how to pickle stuff

>>7869657
Probably memed into it

>>7869657
A very very gay 'house boy' who wore panties, cooked, and cleaned while wearing the collar his master gave him.
>I had to decline this at the beginning of transition
>Most of the men who want this are millionaire alcoholics.... Sometimes still on the closet.
But youd've done magnificently

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Reminder that I'm a male and anyone misgendering me is hate speech

>>7869659
I know how to do that.
I just stuff things into my vinegary ass and leave it for a week

>>7869668
Same

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>>7869657
if anything, we were definitely meme'd into it.
androgyny is a very weird thing for all of humanity, b/c if we ignore social inhibitions, androgyny tends to enhance sexual attraction

>>7869515
Same :(

>>7869629
His name includes Porn so it's like trustworthy

>>7869668
Chaser pls leave or transition.
>>7869674
Idk, my brow ridge bothered the fuck outta me at 22 and I didn't know why.

>>7869680
Leave Crimson chin

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>people here are grossed out by the idea of eating out pussy

wtf

>>7869674
theres 2 kinds of androgyny though
the kind where you have both male and female typical features (femboys etc.)
and the kind where youre just sort of an genderless thing (most butch lesbians, not so passing ftms, me)

>>7869686
I am

>>7869689
That's cause you're a faggot

>>7869686
The taste is kinda weird tho and it's not the most hygienic thing

All in all p cool though

>>7869687
pic examples?

>tfw ywn be type 2

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>>7869651
I don't want help

I just want the pain and sadness and abandonment to stop

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>>7869667
Honestly yeah
I think after a certain point I would have snapped and gone full slave twink
Sounds fucking awesome

>>7869674
What does this have to do with androgyny exactly?

I'm not okay

>>7869681
Y tho mangie

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>>7869687
what i'm talking about is obviously the former.
versatility is an admirable trait.
a swiss army knife can be w/e you want it to be.
same goes for andro men & women.
hell, the only way i'd ever be interested in a woman is if she looks kinda dykeish.
traps are really lovely too

>>7869699
whats up?

>>7869704
I have training tonight which I really can't go to because I have boobs so I'll have to talk to my mum about that and I arrangef a talk with the president of the korfball club to come out to her and I'm very scared of all of it

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Should I get tranny bangs in boy mode
>>7869686
In comparison to sucking a dick it seems p gross
>>7869699
Hugg
>>7869626
>tfw hrt didn't fix my depression

Do I look good for you tonight?
Will you accuse me as I hide
Behind these layers of disguise
And the mirrors of my own happiness?

I’ve loved the freedom of being inside
Need a new start and a different time
Something grows in the space between me
And it’s twisting and changing this fragile body

And I wish I had been born a girl
Instead of what I am
Yes, I wish I had been born a girl
And not this mess of a man

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>>7869696
fucking 80's pop culture,
greek mythology,
roman cults,
chinese cartoons.
humanity has always been fascinated on some level w/ it, some more than others.
it is a meme

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alright, im gonna leave /mtfg/ for a week to see if it helps with my mood

nothing personal, just when people talk about certain stuff it gets me down, and it's probably not healthy to be talking about trans stuff so much either

if i start feeling better i might just take a longer hiatus, who knows

anyways, see ya later /mtfg/!

>>7869675
So what if I had perky sensitive breasts and no inverted V, some women look like men, they're still women

And vice versa
>>7869680
I'm not a chaser valq
Who do you think I am
I am the one whose chased

>>7869667
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TURN THIS DOWN

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>>7869701
Please don't blame me for something I didn't do.

>>7869707
uff that does sound kinda scary desu :/
good luck
>>7869708
girldick is nice too :3
>>7869712
bye

>>7869715
I was making 97k/year and it was a proposition with an uncertain future
>>7869716
Ha.
You're here
>>7869714
You're a man who hits on trans girls tho

>>7869686
I really love doing this for someone
>>7869691
Taste varies some girls have none

>>7869720
I'm not hitting on anyone valq, being nice to people isn't hitting on them

>>7869720
Yeah I've been here since I posted the fustrated pic.
Your point?

>>7869720
How were you making that much as presumably a young person?

>>7869686
ikr

>>7869687
wait which type am I?
I'm definitely not a femboy unfortunately but I clearly have both male and female features (male: face, female: tits, thighs)

>>7869725
Stop chasing .
<3

>>7869686
idk it just seems grosser than sucking D

>>7869707
You can do it! I believe in you! :3
But wow did your boobs grow that fast? :O

>>7869712
Aahhh~ Goodbye emi – I'll miss you :<

>>7869729
The first one
Makeup and long hair kinda prevent you from being the second one
I'm trying to boymode while on HRT but I'm looking more and more like an FTM lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuBcb2T55Q
>tfw mac demarco has a better body for transition than you do

So if it pertains to anyone the Supreme Court

1. Decided not to hear the case until the new justice was put in
2. Threw out the lower court ruling
3. Asked the appeals court to re judge the case now that trump has reinterpreted title 9

>>7869733
They're definitely noticeable in just a t-shirt now.
Getting mega milkers hopefully!
And thank you, but I really can't do it :(

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>>7869737
Fight me bro

>>7869739
Whoa jealous >.<
But I mean you would have to tell them sooner or later anyways, right? :/
I dunno if quitting entirely would be so good ._.

>>7869738
which case?

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>>7869735
Boy mode is easy though

>>7869738
Trump keeps digging himself further and further

>>7869741
Put some panties on you slut.

>>7869741
Do you usually take off your pants and underwear to fight your bros?

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>>7869711
it's kinda uncanny watching civilization gravitate more & more closely toward it.
traditionalists want it to stop & reverse.
i did too, when i had a hard time accepting this about myself.
too bad for them.
everyone else is already aware of what they want.
life would be boring & stupid if everybody followed every rule, meandering through life like idiots who know anything about themselves

>>7869728
Oil.
The price plummeted died.
I make less now.
I'm going back to it tho now that it's picked back up.
Moving west this time
>>7869726
Stop being adorable then.
It's easy

>>7869745
Telling a boy to put on panties is hate speech

Or hot

Depends on the context

>>7869742
True but I'm embarrassed :(
I'd rather just quit for a year and come back when I at least look like a tranny and not just like a boy :(

>>7869749
Isn't easy when you blame anons as me

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>>7869686

>>7869735
kek I'm already treated as a normal cis guy IRL
w/o makeup and long hair I'd just look even more like a normal dude

>>7869743
Gavin and the cisgendered bathroom
>>7869744
Well I mean they won, the Supreme Court blocked Gavin from peeing, he'll graduate high school still blocked, blocked the pro trans decision and asked for a redo at the appellate

When it gets back to the court, they will loudly pronounce we have no rights

>>7869744
It's easy to not look like a girl sure
But it gets kinda hard to look like a cis boy eventually

>>7869751
Yeah I understand >_<
I wish I could just stay at home until I pass (if that will ever happen), but I have to go to a psychoTheRapist tomorrow and it's so scary ;__;
But I know it's necessary >.<

>>7869708
>tfw hrt didn't fix my depression
It slowly made mine worse and now I have the emotional depth to feel how terrible my life really is, instead of being numb to it all.

>>7869767
iktf

>>7869764
It's not that bad

Tfw people get mad at me because I tell them I need another lip lift

>>7869770
The difference between bdd and being trans is that being trans has an end point

>>7869755
Well you shouldn't've been so mean back then

>>7869770
i heard that they essentially cancel out in like 6 months because the philtrum lengthens with age

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>>7869760
if these people really hate us so much, why don't they just say it?
they should say it straight to our faces that we don't even have the right to exist.
fucking trump, playinf dirty like this, waiting until he could announce a new interpretation of the law & appoint a new justice. why? so he could throw the t in lgbt under the bus. he made a promise

>>7869768
hugg

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i like coke

>>7869767
Iktf
I spend a lot more time thinking about how shitty my life is now

>>7869780
I like the elephants in the background. Can you make a closer picture of them please? :)

>>7869760
We live in a nation of fear sadly.

>>7869763
I can still look like a boy

>>7869771
This isn't bdd though

>>7869772
I wasn't being mean in The first place

>>7869774
This could be true
Ffs natural reversal is a thing

>>7869778
hugg

>>7869783
hey gloomy

i'll get some photos later

they're my mom's like she had a crazy elephant collection binge at one point lol

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Should I run away. My fathers putting me down. Holy shit like I placed the cake on the kitchentop and mom asked if I placed it on the table so I moved it such and because the sealed cream thing on top fell over he berated me for not making enough effort it didnt even spill just tipped to the side

>>7869787
Thank you~ :3
I think I had a similar elephant like this once :o

>>7869790
Father* I wasjt raised by gay dads

>>7869776
Thbanks for the smike

>>7869785
I said nice things to you & you attacked everything about my appearance b/c you were on a self hate / self image trip.

Wasn't until weeks later when I said I liked you and I thought you were really sweet and cute on a calmer day that you stopped.

>>7869760
>TFW I'll shit in the girls room regardless & show them my new id if the cops get mad at me.
They can't ask me to produce my birth certificate on the spot anyways.
I mean, fuck.
>We suspect this person is a he she, their id says female.
>Let's detain them in men's jail until their court appearance where they produce their birth certificate
Umm
Yeah.

>people call you female and she on the internet
>have an autistic fit about how you're not a real girl and they're mocking you

Am I the only one..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz1--9EKDqM

>>7869803
I've been doing it all thread son
>>7869800
They have a right to strip search you on detainment

>>7869803
Show them your dick

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>>7869803
when it happens irl, you'll start to believe it

>>7869805
Then why get VFS?

>>7869806
I don't like it.. other people wouldn't like it either

>>7869805
I'm surprised I don't see more news stories about trans people being wrongfully strip searched.

>>7869811
I am literally impossible to gender as female

The one and only one time it happened was in a walmart and I had my back turned on a customer when my hair was like at my hips and she was like 30 feet away

It's going to be really hard not to flinch or look disgusted when people call me she or ma'am after I grow my hair out and get VFS

>>7869800
I guess

>>7869816
Iktf

>>7869816
Angie is that you

>>7869821
No I have never used a tripcode and only recently started coming here

i got a letter from the ministry of justice about some voting shit and my mom wouldnt leave me until i opened it and my dumbass brother fucking just had to make himself involved as well because theyve been having issues about me smoking weed lately

ugh i cant fucking start crying again

can someone post the pic of the girl coming out of the dead boy body as if cutting it open from the inside?

>>7869816
Vfs is a meme
>>7869813
I am comfortable with my feminine half and identify with it strongly

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>>7869821
It isn't me but I feel just like that anon

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>>7869820
Ye
I can see what it's supposed to be sometimes and it makes me sad

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>tfw you file your own taxes for the first time
>tfw no longer dependant on your parents to deal with your shit
Good feel

>>7869805
They'd have to have a female officer do it if your id says female.
Also, probable cause sounds pretty fucking wishy washy.
Especially since a slew of boyish dykes started getting harassed at the onset of the NC thing

>>7869833
https://youtu.be/u8mGsis9nNo

>>7869825
Kay.. ._.

>>7869833
Please think before you have surgery
https://clyp.it/gghcxeq4

>>7869826
Hugg

>>7869841
Oooooooooooooooooooooooh

>>7869842
Why you ooooh'n me

>>7869841
Surgery is a meme

>>7869843
I've gotten that since I started transitioning
I'll see a sort of female form of myself, then I'll wake up and see what I actually look like and want to die
The worst is having dreams about myself as a cis girl or still stuck as a guy like I am irl. Those are tortuous dreams.

>>7869830
Is VFS really a meme? You only just had it right? Everything says it takes at least 6 months to a year to really sound right.

>>7869690
oh right

>>7869765
I convinced my mum I don't need to see a psych uwu
Good luck tomorrow though

>>7869852
It takes 6 months to a year of training to sound right
It doesn't sound right out of the box
Which begs the question why someone would get it in the first place

>>7869841
You still have to train your voice bb.
It just makes it easier to stay/hit the register b/c you don't have 10 miles to go from deep boyvoice to girlvoice

>>7869841
desu most people warned you you still need voice training after vfs

Vfs and ffs are memes to help the Jew doctors

>>7869862
If you're lazy and have more money than sense

>>7869861
just look away then, dumbass

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>>7869827
Found it :3
(Thanks google)

>>7869855
Aahhh but maybe it would help you as well? >.<
But thank you - I'm super scared ;__;

>>7869864
If you don't have the genetics, effort will do nothing

>>7869861
>looking in mirrors
Are you even trans?

>>7869856
That doesn't sound like a bad deal or unreasonable at all. You're tampering with a fairly sensitive and volatile organ. Learning how to speak again would also take time.

All VFS basically does is remove the need to raise your larnyx and all you do is just work on resonance, I think. So you can't 'slip up'.

Sounds like it's pretty worth it, but I haven't even had it so I could be talking completely out of my ass.

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>>7869827
higher resolution~

>>7869869
How do you know if you have genetics?

>>7869879
what the fuck thats awful

fuck that bitch

>>7869844
I was curious about what happened Faye =(

>>7869878
Gloomy

>>7869866
Yeah probably but I'm too scared so I'll pass.
I'm sure it'll be fine! Outside isn't too scary, just avoid blacks

>>7869872
Training gives you the same and often better results and costs nothing
I know people throw around the phrase 'x is a meme' here a lot, but vfs is literally a meme

If you have to train for 6 months to a year to get good results out of vfs, why would you have not just done that in the first place?

>>7869886
Oryx

>>7869887
But you're much braver than me >.<
Aaaahhh I really hope I won't die ;__;

I went to expo park yesterday.
Smoked a lot there with some friends I've met before.
The best part of the day was taking off my shoes and playing soccer barefoot and encouraging this young lad that came to the park with his dad.
It was cool.

>>7869892
Because throwing money at a problem is comforting even if it's not sensible

>>7869893
Yeah but I go outside more so I know nothing is gonna happen c:

>>7869849
>tfw was always a girl in my dreams as a kid
>tfw whenever I thought about my future I imagined myself as a woman
>still look me til age 14 and being explicitly asked "do you think it's possible you're transgender?" for me to realise
goddamn I'm so autistic

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>>7869880
You can tell by how your body is shaped and how hrt/surgery reacts to you.
Example bad/good genetics

>>7869895
You are cool

>>7869893
I like you

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>>7869897
I mean, yeah
Tbh if some of the ffs addicts threw half as much money at a therapist as they did at their surgeons they'd probably get much better bang for their buck

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>>7869880
It's like trying to make great pottery with shitty clay when you have bad genetics.

>>7869895
You wanted an asseater trip right?
I have found those, do you want one of them?
!AssEatErkQ
!AsSEAterQE
!ASseater6w
!ASsEAter5c
!AsSEAter4U
!aSs/EaTErE

>>7869898
But I'll have to go there in girlmode :<
And walk on multiple train stations >_<
And someone was recently killed there ;__;

>>7869905
Thank you~

>>7869910
Yea
Can I plz get
!ASsEAter5c
Got a Kik?
Skype?
Burner email?

Thanks btw <3

>>7869906
I mean I even get the ffs stuff. It's not like you can will your brow or jaw into female ranges. But you can with your voice with just as much effort and less pain.

It's stupid. And yeah you're right about the therpy

>>7869910
Yeah but you are a girl so that's alright
And train stations aren't too bad!
People get killed everywhere, don't worry too much. Nothing's gonna happen to you except a scary talk

>>7869916
Yes

>>7869910
uwu

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>>7869914
I understand ffs, hell, I even am considering a nose job at some point
I even understand a revision or two
But some people are legit surgery addicts. I mean how often do you see people here talking about how many more procedures they want when they already look cis?

A scalpel can't fix crazy

>>7869910
Where are you living that people get killed at train stations lol

>>7869905
I am cool
Lol

>>7869892
I don't understand. If it's a meme why do so many other people report good results with it? Why did Faye bother getting it?

You can sing and involuntary sounds will sound more natural with VFS. Even with training I can usually tell who is trans or not.

Kind of worried now.. I was saving up $10,000 just for it since I did no voice training at all so far..

>>7869913
Ahhh sure~
I have discord or this cock.li address: Gloomy{ät}airmail.cc

>>7869915
I feel like a girl, but I don't look like one :(
I could put on a lot of makeup to cover my beard shadow, but that would make it even scarier and It'd stand out even more >_<

>>7869919
nʍn

>>7869921
Germany

>>7869920
Brad, Angie, Maddie, who am I forgetting?

That's the surgeons fault to be honest there should be better vetting

man I just remembered Ricky, the original BDD-poster, I wonder what happened to her

fuck

there must be so many old trips who I've completely forgotten, probably even some I've been friends with, my memory is so fucked

>>7869925
idk my natural sounds are fine

>>7869910
>you wanted an asseater trip right
I found this way funnier than I really should have

>>7869920
I mean that ffs addiction thing reinforces itself when the board culture is that basically nobody except 10/10s passes at all.

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>>7869924
>I am cool
ahahgahahahahahah
beanboy
cool
ahahahaah

Also I just hit 18 months HRT.

>>7869925
Honestly it's not a meme but it raises you 2/3 an octave, an octave is double your current frequency, voice training leaves you sounding like a tranny if you have a deep voice and it's going to slip, and as you age the muscles aren't going to stay that strong, vfs is forever with all things

>>7869936
You meant?

>>7869932
I don't think sounds like sneezes or coughs or moans would be natural even with training because you're not thinking about keeping it under control

>>7869929
Pff you look like one to me
And meh, just go like that desu. Noone's gonna attack you
How's Röpsje?

>>7869941
Doesn't VFS have a really high risk of making you go mute?

>>7869921
Watching people die at trains stations is an unique experience

>>7869934
Aaaahhhhh embarrassing >.<
I asked if someone wanted me to search for a trip, and he wanted this particular one >_<

>>7869945
uhhh yeah its automatic for me so yeah

and jesus girl moans are literally the easiest things to do

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>>7869925
I once considered vfs and then did some research into it. I have heard literally one good result. Out of countless ones that I listened to.

You can sing without vfs. Hell, the vocal control you learn with training likely will make you a better singer. Short of coughing fits, my involuntary sounds are mostly fine.

Faye hadn't commited to training and everything she has posted here indicates that she used guy voice frequently, which is going to hamper any sort of progress, you can't go back and forth like that and expect training to stick. You need to just use your girl voice all the time.

>no voice training
Start training wtf

>>7869930
Don't forget Nikki

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>>7869930
I'm not addicted to surgery though

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Does finasteride help with the height of your hairline or will it just be yet another surgery

>>7869950
That's hilarious~!

>>7869941
>tfw can't get the muscles to contract in the first place
>hypotonia so bad my airways don't stay open when I swallow so I choke often when eating/drinking, also have sleep apnea
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I want my existence to end swiftly, painlessly and immediately

>>7869943
Several people in /lgbt/, and even some in this thread, are convinced that unless you look like a model or anime character you don't pass. People also severely overestimate cis people's ability to clock you simply because you get clocked in a thread full of trans women who, you know, know for one that you're tras.

>>7869500
At this rate I think I'm going to prove that wrong.

>>7869961
>>7869953
http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/

ugh i want shitposters to LEAVE

>>7869945
also my sneezes sound girly even if im not trying and coughs like its literally you making a normal sound except more forced

>>7869923
Yea I was really high cuz we picked up as a group and like multiple blunts where rolled so I was baked, at one point I was kinda this is cool just like when my dad used to take me.
And like I say, I'm an Indian. I feel better, more in control and like I can accelerate and slow down and tackle harder when I'm barefoot. The kid must have thought I was really cool too could he would do anything I said and like I guess I did kinda bully him or like push him to be better cuz I was yelling at him to hit the ball harder and chase after the ball more and then one time lol I saw that he stopped chasing after the ball so I took it from him cuz I'm like actually 6'1 so really I can clear the park in like four strides and yea he saw that I wasn't really "going easy" on him which I think motivated him to try harder cuz he didn't want to look weak in front of his dad. And at one point we just chilled with the ball, like just went running with the ball casually jogging with him trying to take the ball from me and vice versa.
Lol I accidentally tripped him once and I guess it hurt him a little cuz he did kinda eat shit just a little and he started to go over to his parents but then saw or i guess sensed that I didn't really give a shit about him and was still enjoying myself with the ball which I guess motivated him to walk it off and after that he was a little more aggressive which I really really liked.

>>7869961
I do not believe vfs affects chest coughs in any meaningful way.

The other ones such as moans, surprised sounds, sneezes and whatnot are affected by training.

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>try straightening hair
>get the courage to wear my favorite jeans out
>feeling good
>"Hey mom, going out like this, what do yo -"
>"Did you put something in your hair it's making my nose burn! You know I can't tolerate smelly stuff"
>complaining and lecturing blabla
I just want to curl up and die now and I I'm going to put on my disgusting guy jeans and go :/
A lifetime of living with this fucking hag is it any wonder I have zero self esteem or self worth? ;_;

>>7869948
There's almost 0 risk of that with yeason or anyone who goes through the throat, the risk is of busting your stitches and not healing and sounding the same with a bit of surgery damage that will heal
>>7869961
I cough like a girl now can confirm
>>7869952
El has the unreal expectation that your balls haven't dropped and you do therapy, she isn't as deep as me, and her boy voice is mostly using a rumbling chest resonance on top of a high pitch, if your voice is in the 120s you aren't training it to sound like a cis girl

Okay I'll go and eat dinner now, brb~

>>7869947
My webcam is just shitty >.<
(I was thinking about uploading an exaggerated pixel image of me here, but even that is too scary ;__;)

Röpsje is still wrapped in a salad leaf sticking to a stick, so I can't really see anything of her. It's kinda sad that she was pupating after a few days already >.<
I hope she'd doing fine and that it's not to cold or something :S

Oh and did you send Vanessa her new trip yet? The /Kink/htt6 one?


>>7869957
I just wanted to help >.<

>>7869974
I've heard training drop in all these instances

>>7869930
maddie is beautiful tho.

>>7869965
Do people see you as a man where you live?

>>7869978
What you're doing wrong is acting like pitch -actually- matters. If it mattered you would sound like a girl now, but you sound like a tranny because you never trained the stuff that actually matters.

>>7869975
;_;
Ohh also did you use a heat guard?

>>7869975
harihugg

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>>7869956
forgot trip
i'll just ask my dad if he wants to prescribe me finasteride i guess idk idc

>>7869987
>hat you're doing wrong is acting like pitch -actually- matters
this soo much

pitch is like the last thing to matter

>>7869803
I do this when people gender me female irl lol (I put the lol on there to pretend that I find this funny but I actually hate it it makes me feel so shitty that I can't trust anyone someone please help)

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>>7869982
Tfw not beautiful

>>7869811
What if that doesn't happen tho?

>>7869998
Thank you father

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>>7869996
at least you're not some balding full moonfaced sasquatch monster like I am.

>tfw nep leaves to go back home today
I don't want this
I wish we could live together

>>7869987
I mean if my post recovery 3 weeks into 6 months healing voice triggers you that much

I wouldn't want a deeps voice like you have, and stretching my muscles to do it sounded fake. No one misgendered me regardless of voice, so what really is the point of shaming a pitch increase for people that want to sound like attractive cis women

>>7870011
Just what happened earlier..