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Okay so theres this fairly high profile twitch streamer I watch frequently that I just realized is a repressed MtF (most likely AGP typology.) I'm like 110% sure of it. I've been watching them for awhile and I always had my suspicions that they were trans due to certain things they would do on stream, but until today I would always downplay my suspicions as just projections of my own transness onto them.

However, today I saw a video involving them that without a shadow of a doubt confirms what I've suspected all along. The matter is extra important / sensitive because they are already close to passing without HRT and would surely pass if they transitioned sooner rather than later.

The problem is, I'm also fairly certain they don't realize they are trans yet / or are still fairly closeted. There is no realistic way I could contact them because of how much spam / fan mail they probably already receive so I'm at a loss for what to do. How do I make them realize they are trans and save their lives from the inevitable struggle that is transitioning late?
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>>7868726
What were the things that started making you suspect, and what's the big thing you saw today?
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>>7868754
Well it all started when I realized they seemed to not mind being gendered female by donators in their messages, that was red flag number one, I didn't think too much of this at the time though so bear with me.

The second instance was when they cross dressed on stream and seemed to really enjoy it, like really enjoy it, thats when I started thinking they might be trans.

The third red flag was when I saw a video of them accidentally showing stream MtF porn they had been looking at I'm guessing before they streamed or something. All of these things by themselves don't really seem like much but when you take all of that into account to me it's pretty obvious that they are repressed AGP trans, right?

Maybe I'm still projecting too hard but these examples I've provided seem to be a pretty common traits among MtFs i've observed on this board.
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>>7868799
Send them a donation and tell them to use the money to order hrt
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Nice self projecting
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>>7868812
Thanks. And I honestly don't even think I'm even projecting that hard I was never a chaser / interested in trans porn before transitioning and I hardly ever cross dressed, it's just that all of the things I mentioned seem to be common traits among trans people I've met / on this board.
>>7868807
I'm pretty certain they are not fully cognizant of being trans yet, thats where I'm kind of at a loss of what to do next, to be honest I've never met someone that I'm pretty certain was transgender but in denial / repressed or whatever.
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>>7868835
I get where you're coming from, but maybe you should do it. They'll most likely take it as a joke, but at least now you've put the thought into their head and maybe they'll start to research it a little
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>>7868845
Hmm maybe you're right. What if it just causes them to repress even more though out of embarrassment or something? Maybe I should just let them figure it out on their own assuming they are actually trans and i'm not just a crazy projecting mtf.
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>>7868799
Is it fucking Box Box?
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>>7868860
Exactly. Look at Scarlett, shes unhappy with srs
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>>7868907
Who did she go to?
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>>7868907

wait scarlett got SRS?
aw man, that finally puts my dream of fucking a pre op professional star craft 2 player down :/
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>>7868889
I'm not going to say who I think is trans that would be fucked up. Maybe, maybe not.
>>7868907
What? SRS has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
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>>7868912

Totes box box.
And no, them coming out as trans will only hamper their streaming career. His streaming career/job is to valuable to potentially jeopardize
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>>7868919
They don't have to come out, just get HRT. And I'm not sure it would hurt their career too much if at all, especially if they pass. I don't know, is there precedent for streamers coming out as trans then losing significant viewership because of that?
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>>7869108
No I don't believe there is a precedent.
Although I wouldn't be surprised if the LoL community is not as accepting as hoped.

Box Box can pass without an issue, he seems to be doing a pretty fantastic job with his cosplay. I mean I'd fuck the life out of the guy. So I don't think starting late HRT will be to much of a problem for him. He will figure it out by himself.
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>>7869108
I don't think Twitch is the type of platform you would have any type of major success with as a MtF / FtM regardless of how well they may or may not end up passing, It would definitely destroy this persons career or at least greatly hinder it. The real problem is there is no reliable way for me to reach out to them even though I've spent a good hour searching for ways. And AGAIN let me reiterate, by responding to this I'm not confirming or denying that the person I'm referencing is a streamer known as "box box." Also update, I got a better look from a twitch vod of what porn they got caught looking at and it was a bunch of forced feminization / MtF tumblr pages, this means they are most likely trans right?? What is the target audience for that kind of porn??
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>>7869139

Eh, I may be outlier or completely closeted but I've gotton off on that shit before. I don't see myself as MtF at all. But yes I think the primary audience of that stuff would be MtF, or have that fetish were they get off on being female.
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>>7869139
>All of these things by themselves don't really seem like much but when you take all of that into account to me it's pretty obvious that they are repressed AGP trans, right?
Basically this, though I wouldn't say "obvious". "Likely enough to be worth taking seriously", maybe.

>Also update, I got a better look from a twitch vod of what porn they got caught looking at and it was a bunch of forced feminization / MtF tumblr pages, this means they are most likely trans right?? What is the target audience for that kind of porn??
It's true that a lot of MtFs are into forced feminisation; you can see how it would attract them. For me (as an AGP) it's a weird blend of really hot porn and emotionally devastating wish fulfillment. There are plenty of people who aren't MtF that are into it too though, and for most works that's the main target audience. That said I'm sure there are quite a few artists/authors/whatever with gender issues who are producing their content with that in mind. I'm fairly sure you can tell which one it's more likely to be based on whether the focus is on "oh I guess I'm a girl now better have lots of sex" or "oh I guess I'm a girl now better get used to it and happily live my life this way".

The fact that the streamer looks at that is more evidence but nothing conclusive.
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>>7869168
>The fact that the streamer looks at that is more evidence but nothing conclusive.

Sigh.. Yeah you're right, also Oryx was right I am projecting hard. I can't shake this feeling though that they are super repressed AGP and don't realize it which really kills me inside.

The reality of the situation though is that even if they were trans and even if I had a realistic way of contacting them theres no way I could tell them all of this without coming off as some creepy stalker or possibly risk sending them even further into the closet.

I guess the best I can do is hope they aren't trans or that they figure it out soon enough to have a successful transition. I really hope I'm wrong though.
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>>7869223
I wouldn't call it projecting. You're overanalysing everything and perhaps overestimating the significance of certain evidence, but that doesn't mean you're wrong. Like I said, this is something that should be taken seriously. The problem is that you can't really do anything from the outside; people don't respond well to strangers discussing deeply personal things with them, least of all telling them what to do. It's pretty possible they already have some sort of support (a friend or a therapist, maybe) or have been thinking about this on their own; you can't know, and the uncertainty makes you uncomfortable, but it's possible.

It's not an easy situation to handle. It hurts to see other people who you relate to, who are struggling and you know you could help given the chance. Like the solution is so obvious but they haven't figured it out yet, and you've already gone through that process and just need to tell them. As bad as it sounds you might just have to accept that there isn't anything you can do without being personal friends with them.

What makes you think they don't realise it themselves?

>>7868889
Regardless of who OP is talking about, after seeing this I have little doubt Boxbox isn't trans or at least doesn't have some significant gender issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CREy5wgyoQU&feature=youtu.be&t=1m54s
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>>7869281
>Regardless of who OP is talking about, after seeing this I have little doubt Boxbox isn't trans or at least doesn't have some significant gender issues
*I have little doubt Boxbox is trans or at least has some significant gender issues
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>>7869139
Just send this person a message to their personal mail if they provided one. If not send them a msg through twitch pm. Trust me we arent bombed with fan mail and people respect these platforms only for serious requests plus I read everything. Dont msg on twitter or facebook I cant keep up with that or reply super late.

t. semi famous twitch streamer
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>>7868907
That's sad.
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>>7868726
Why even word it ambiguously? We all know you mean box box, the lord god riven trap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE72Wg_RJHo

He's just too cute, I hope he comes out soon.
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>>7870126
>repeatedly referring to herself in a way that implies she considers herself a girl
>yelling "get me out of the closet!"
Yep, she's trans.
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>>7870399
How does she imply she considers herself a girl?
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>>7869354
Okay I'll at least send the person in question a twitch PM, I didn't even realize you could do that, I feel pretty dumb right now.
>>7869281
>What makes you think they don't realize it themselves?
I don't know its just what my intuition tells me but maybe I'm wrong.

Assuming I do write the person in question an email what would be the best way to do it? Should I keep it short and brief and simply say that I'm a MtF and find some of their behavior on stream troubling to the point that it makes me think they might be trans? Should I not list the reasons why because it might be too personal and make them repress more / super uncomfortable?

And also I'm say this because everyone here won't shut the fuck up about it, the person I'm refering to is NOT boxbox, I've seen other people mention in /femgen that they think he is repressed trans and honestly after watching the videos linked it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they have some gender issues they haven't worked out yet as well, but the person i'm talking about IS NOT boxbox.
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>>7871343
Come on just say who it is so we can judge how passable she could be.
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>>7871343
Yes, say you're mtf and probably best to leave the reasons why out of your message.

Not all agps should transition remember, even if their feelings are very similar to those who should.
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>>7868726
Stop being obsessed with somebody else's life. They have probably heard your "concerns," from someone that they actually know and love and whose opinion they care about. Hearing sexual identity advice from a stranger through their stream chat is going to come across as online harassment than as legitimate advice because it was completely unsolicited.
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>>7876480
I sent them a message yesterday, hopefully it gets read and if it does apply to them maybe it will bump them in the right direction, but I'm not holding my breath.

>Not all agps should transition remember, even if their feelings are very similar to those who should.

What makes you say that? I thought that AGP / dysphoria tend to get worse as you age, wouldn't it make sense for someone with AGP to transition with HRT even if they could never go full time to simply to alleviate some dysphoria and live as a GNC male or something in between?
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>>7876641
I sent them one PM, I never brought it up in their chat. Also, I see where you are coming from but at the same time I often wish someone who was further along in their transition would of come to me when I was confused / repressing and helped me transition sooner, I'm sure most if not all trans people can relate to that.

I don't really see how I'm harassing them by sending a one paragraph long PM to them, maybe if I were to continue reaching out to them it would be grounds for harassment but I have no intention of doing that.
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>>7876658
Can you post the message?

It seems it does normally get worse, but that doesn't mean it always does or can't be helped other ways. HTR boymode won't necessarily help and being a GNC male might be worse than boymode.

>>7876641
Unless they know someone trans they won't have heard it from OP's perspective, and even then they probably won't have since /lgbt/ knows about AGP better than most. Messages with advice should only be expected when you're a streamer.
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>>7868726
Jesus just tell us who it is you fag
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