>Christcucks irreparably and utterly BTFO

>>7842549
Most other countries
>Woman takes 30 raw anon loads up her anus from guys she invited on craigslist. Some of them have infected-looking bruises on their arms and look a bit ill, but they all said they were HIV negative and that they just looked a little tired. She waits a week without taking PEP before donating.
>>"Yeh sure, i c notin rong here" ~Donor services
>Two completely virgin guys have been in a committed relationship for 3 years now, having been regular blood donors since before they even met. Eventually, they decide to show their affection for each other in a more physical way. After several HIV and other STD tests confirming their negative status, one rolls a condom on and the other gives him a bj-"
>>"Hold up! You probably have HIV now; we can't let you donate" ~Donor services

Meanwhile Spain is the complete opposite.
I like a country that can think logically.

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>>7843239
>spain
>country that can think logically
top kek
I live there and i can assure you that's just the surface. Most of the people arround here think that bullying trans people is wrong, but when they see a gay couple kissing everyone goes crazy and see it as an abomination and you can get beaten up because of it, 0 logic. This behavior is more frequent in the north, not so much in the south. Fuck all of those christian cucks.

>>7842549
spain should have fell into the sea in the 8th century desu

>>7843447
Is northern Spain more religious that southern Spain?

>>7842549
I'm trans and I think they shouldn't have been banned. They have every right to be hateful if they want to as long as it's not taxpayer funded.

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>>7843482
>it's a /polgbt/ deflects criticism of Christianity (cucks) while pretending to give a shit about gays living in the MidEast episode

>>7843509
It's true though. Free speech applies to hate speech too, at least in the US. Not sure about Spain...

>>7843482
All abrahamic religions and there followers are scum. You're just the same as the brain-damaged towel-headed scum in the middle east /pol/ack.

>>7843509
hate speech ⊂ free speech

>>7843482
>>7843539
>>7843547
why are you bringing islam to a thread about christianity?

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>>7843482
nice try

>>7843729
>The body should be a gay man not Europe
Except Jews generally aren't behind anti-gay legislation.

>>7843791
>Except Jews generally aren't behind anti-gay legislation.
True, they actually fight for gay rights

>>7842549
>Can we all acknowledge how awesome Spain is?
http://kukuruyo.com/2016/02/17/spain-gender-laws-a-country-against-men/

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>>7843582
abrahamic religions where a great, great mistake for the human race.

>tfw north africa and south europe are enemies thanks to a violent, jealous, malignant jewish god.
>you would never worship jupiter along with osiris with your egyptian gf in the XXII century.

>>7843823
Because they despise healthy white gentile families, dumbass.

The enemy of my enemy isn't necessarily my fucking friend.

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>>7846889
true.

see: the "alt-right" neo-nazis when they pretend to be our friends bc they hate muslims.

>>7846865
>>you would never worship jupiter along with osiris with your egyptian gf in the XXII century.
i keep wanting to be the gf in ftm fantasies!

>>7843447
Dude, that's bullshit.

I've lived in both, North and South, and people is more tolerant in the south, yes, but in the north people don't give a fucking shit about whatever you do.

Spain is a good place for LGBT people to live in, in general.

>>7842549

Why would you ban a bus for having a fact on it?

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>>7847128
Because truth hurts

>>7847128
It doesn't matter if they are facts or beliefs, the issue is that wrongthought isn't allowed. This is a step back to the days of Franco.

>>7847174
> What is hate speech?

>>7847185

>stating a fact is hate speech

>>7847187

> '''''''''''''facts'''''''''''''''

>>7847174
>It doesn't matter if they are facts or beliefs

>>7847185
You are literally saying misgendering people is hate speech like inciting violence is?

You're obviously a European. In the Anglosphere free speech isn't limited to when people start getting upset.

>>7847204
Nah, I was just kidding.

But it kind of is.
I don't really care about the bus and the message. If it was up to me? Let it go around the city as much as you want.

But I also get the point of the people that wanted it gone.
The parents of trans kids that can't defend themselves or are just starting to live their life.
> misgendering people
Is not about misgendering people, is about denying them rights.
Christians in Spain are mental. Luckily, there's only a few, but they are loud.
> free speech isn't limited to when people start getting upset.
Obviously.

>>7847219
>But I also get the point of the people that wanted it gone.
What is there to get in "People should not be allowed to say that"?

>Is not about misgendering people, is about denying them rights.
What rights? The right to control what other people say and think?

>>7847228
>What is there to get in "People should not be allowed to say that"?
Don't ask me. I've told you I'm ok with it.

But I'd like to point out that that's what the catholic church has been trying to do for years. You can't do X or say Y because it offends Christians.

>What rights?
The right to be humans and not be discriminated.

>>7847238
I'd say the same to the Catholic Church if it tried to have the government ban something as I've said here, and a lot more too.

>The right to be humans and not be discriminated.
This is a slanted way of saying free speech ends at offense.

>>7847262
>This is a slanted way of saying free speech ends at offense.
Nah.
I'm talking about real discrimination, not about ''Oh noes, that billboard is hurting my feelings!''.
That's just dumb.

To be clear, I'm with you, I'm just replying to prolong the conversation.
I'm a sad, sad, little man.

>>7843470
Other Spaniard anon from Madrid.

Usually people in the south is more open to everything and more leftist in economic aspects, but in the end the average is almost the same, everybody hates faggots in the same ways except in the cities (Madrid and Barcelona), where it's more common to see gay couples in the street.

On the other hand even if they censored this bus (because it attacks trans children) they can arrest and condemn you for blasfemia, and people is free to say faggots should be killed.

We are a country of contrasts

>>7847296
But those rights aren't infringed my a misgendering van!

Why don't you start a new, exciting conversation? A hot OP /lgbt/ has never replied to before with a fresh and original topic?

>>7847313
>they can arrest and condemn you for blasfemia
Jesus, like Pakistan or something. Was the Reconquista for nothing?

>>7847219

Parents of "trans kids" should be thrown in prison rather than worrying about how many genders a van thinks there are(2)

>>7847327
Ye, to guarantee the protection from "attacks to religious feelings"

Ley orgánica de libertad religiosa 7/1980

>>7847333
>attacks to religious feelings
>feelings
They aren't even trying to hide it!

>>7847346
Of course they are not! Since the war and the dictatorship Spain is divided in two, the leftist side that allows to protect LGBT people and stuff like OP's one and the right part that send to prisson people for making jokes on the internet about the right hand of the dictator.

>>7843470
no, is more like US, or the rest of the world, is more of a urban vs rural and rich vs poor thing, rich, modern, generally urban provinces are progressive, rural, poorer shitholes no, maybe with spain is more of rich vs poor thing, big cities in rural provincies are worse than little towns in basque country.

basque country a big catholic tradition, but is a very rich, progressive state, specially compare to the rest of spain, our basque "conservative", pro-independence party is progressive compare to the rest of the world conservatives parties, esentially they are a center party, they are just conservative in the "we want our state to work well and promote our culture and the basque country to be indepent country to spain" sense, barcelona province and city is also very progressive, but the rest of catalonia less and is more backwards the poorer and further they are of barcelona.

madrid the same, capital of spain, weird case, they are the same people who vote to the PP (conservative "small goverment" party in spain) and later to podemos (ideologically socialist unlike PSOE), progressive compare to the rest of spain again, the PP of madrid is progressive compare to the rest of spain, the same for basque country, and the PP of catalonia idk to be honest, but they are pretty irrelevant.

>>7847380
cont.


andalusia is very progressive, specially socially, is one of the most religious places of spain, and one of the poorest, but unironically also one of the more progressive, at least in the cities that are big, weird case, almost always the poorest, religious provincies are the regressive ones and pure shitholes, but andalusia economy aside is a very nice place, i think is bc unlike many poorer provincies of the world, andalusia have a lot of social movement and is more cosmopolitan than places like castilla, people travel here and give them money, people are chill and they don't get into issues that do not concern them, they also are the point of the spear on trans issues and rights.

t. basque tranny.

To sum it up:

Yes, Spain is still one of the most LGBT friendly countries out there.
Yes, there are powerful conservatives in Spain

I mean, there isn't a single country in the world where there won't be people willing to call you a faggot and strip you off your rights. But even then, Spain has an exemplary tolerance towards the LGBT collective, even among conservative supporters.
As some anon pointed out, there's a Catholic minority that was enriched and protected during the dictatorship years, and they have retained that power to this day. That's why sometimes you see eccentricities like that bus, consequence of that rich elite still roaming around.

Everyone criticized the bus on the news here, and pretty much every politician asked for it's banning.

>>7847503
Political oppression is not LGBT friendly. No not even when that oppression is aimed at somebody else.

>>7843492
well they are a religious organization so it's probable that they receive tax payer's money in some extent
>captcha: place barcelona

What about that draq queen that used religious references?

>>7847584
They are investigating if he committed a crime against ''religious sensitivity''.

You can get into trouble if you say ''Christians suck my dick'' and ''Trannys have a dick''.

>>7842549
Good. Next the shouls BAN cissies.

>>7847618
>You can get into trouble if you say ''Christians suck my dick'' and ''Trannys have a dick''.
Ironic that the same laws and attitudes around censorship that are being used to persecute LGBT people are cited by >>7847503 as making Spain LGBT-friendly.

>>7847618
>You can get into trouble if you say ''Christians suck my dick''

Name one European country where you don't get into trouble by saying this.

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>>7847641
Turkey

>>7847521
The bus broke a law on advertizing, it got impounded.

It's the fault of the idot owners for wanting to tear down law and order

>>7847990
If it broke the law, why was >>7847503 talking about politicians calling for it to be banned?

It sounds like politicians said one thing, then the law was interpreted to mean that.

>>7848004
Not only were they flagrantly breaking a law on advertising, but they also went around harassing children and others. Even the conservative goverment says they're morons who broke the law.

It was justified, these clowns should've looked the rules up before embarrassing themselves.

>>7848015
I don't know the Spanish laws. In other countries advertising has been banned retrospectively for political reasons, regardless of law and order.

The fall of once the glorious Spain in your time. :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Serve you right, Spain! We don't need physical army to destroy you, just some faggot idea so your very own people turns against you and finally sunken like Atlantis. :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>7845044
Christ, and MRAs think Canada/US is bad. Under such a regime I think men should just become transbians. Although i'm biased because i'm only a man because it's easier/safer than being a hon. In such a misandric society I'd seriously consider hondom.

>>7848568
where are you from

>>7847187
there are people with xy chromosones born with vaginas, and vice versa

>Spain
>lgbt friendly
Are you from the year 3017?

>>7848977
>Amerifat education

>>7849113
Actually European.

>>7849119
Where from?

Spain is probably one of the most LGBT friendly countries in Europe.

The people is liberal or don't give a shit, they approved the gay marriage waaaaay sooner than most other european countries, lots of gay protection, lots of services for T people...

>>7849206
Netherlands.

>>7846889
If they help us "incidentally", that's still better than those who would harm us.

>>7847187
>something being a fact means it can't be criticized!

>>7847204
Hate speech isn't the same as inciting violence. They're two separate categories.

>>7847328
You should be thrown in jail for encouraging child abuse on a public forum.

>>7849225
>Netherlands
> Hates Spain

I can't blame you, is natural. But trust me, one of the best countries for the LGBT community by a long shot.

>>7849225
>his country is full of Mudslimes
>calls others dangerous for lgbt's

>>7842549
>>7843447
>>7843470
I am Spanish from the north and no, it is not from my point of view.

Anyway Spain is a country that tolerates LGBT much better than someone from another ethnic group.

What happens is that the poor religious no longer know how to attack LGBT and as they know that the homosexual struggle has already lost it, they want to attack T while Is still weak c:

>>7850237
By the way, I forget to say that the sex change is funded by Seguridad Social (it's free, it's paid by the state) which states that it's something that does not describe Spain itself

>>7842549
The bus lasted only 24 hours until it stopped

>>7848004
Actually, the politicians don't really care if they broke the advertising laws, they are using that as a pretext to ban the bus because people despise it, but in the end this is just a populist measure to win elections, that's how democracy works in Spain

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>>7847584

Heh, that happened in my city. It was fun local drama. Supposedly today (or tomorrow, I don't remember) a special mass was organized in the cathedral "for those who want to repent and ask for forgiveness on behalf of those who allowed it to happen".

Most people don't care really.

>celebrating censorship
By blocking the church from speaking their point of view is both insulting to the intelligence of the people and setting a dangerous precedent. Imagine if the situation were reversed and the bus was by a pro-trans organization and the government blocked it from going on the streets.

It's wrong to censor anyone and turns the church into a martyr. This was not the correct way to handle the situation and it goes to show how little foresight the current administration in Spain is.

For the record I'm a mtf and an American so I don't know the political climate of Spain at all, but it's pretty clear little thought went into the government's decision to censor the church.

>>7850600
No. Everyone who goes to church should be skinned alive. Fuck of with your "everybody in every church is always right" dog shit.

>>7850607
>everybody in every church is always right
Please quote me where I implied that. I'm not saying I agree with the sentiment, in fact I'm very against it. This is just sending the church more ammunition. Now they can get on their soapbox and say "look, they don't care about what we catholics think" which just enrages the by far most dominant religious demographic in all of Europe. Even catholics who don't agree with the bus will be more inclined to rally behind it. Censorship splits us apart and doesn't help at all.

Like I said, by doing this to them you are giving them permission to retaliate equally. Don't be surprised when Spain elects an alt-right leader and they censor the LGBT movement.

>>7850640
That's exactly what you dog shit always imply when you act evil and threaten gay children with eternal torment, and then act like you've been insulted when someone points out you're worthless dog shit for doing that. Every time you defend yourself when you're caught being living dog shit, you're implying that you shouldn't be skinned alive, which is an obvious and evil lie.

>>7850651
You seem to think that I'm Catholic which leads me to believe that you're not actually reading my posts. I'll continue discussion when you adequately respond to me in a way that's coherent.

>>7850664
I said Christian. All of you worthless dog shit eating Christians deserve to be skinned alive. That means Christian. As in child raping Christian. Worthless garbage Christian. Deceitful infection Christian.

Not brown Christian. Not red Christian. Not white Christian. All Christian.

>>7850685
I'm not religious at all. Try again.

>>7850710
You're Christian. Try again.

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>>7850715
Born 2 DiE
World IS a fUCK
KILL em aLL 1989
I. Am. Trash man.
410,575,468,530.5 dead copS

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>>7847357
>spanish right-cucks
Return of CNT when?

>>7850522
Why are Christians so stupid? Have they got no self awareness?

>>7842549
Honestly surprised the religious are not rounded up and gasses after all they are the biggest threat to all generations and claim its always going to happen i mean fuck they believe in the end times they would be prosecuted ( funny self fulling cult mind control when people snap out of it its the "sign of the times" reprogramming) so lets send them all to jesus like they keep begging for all the time.

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KIll all Christians desu

>>7850764
CNT still exists lol but all syndicates get cucked like 4 years ago

>>7842549
Spain is based because it wants to eliminate transgenders. Delusional men pretending they are women are not sane and should not be treated as honorable let alone brave.

>>7852203
There's nothing wrong with wanting to be pretty and get treated like a girl.

>>7852207
After a certain age, the pretending manifests into a mental illness and bad decisions follow that affect many people

>>7852216
The same pretending God's existence, now we have the Vatican and Opus Dei and many broken families due to donations to the church