Is letting a Child transition child abuse?

>>7828687
No, it's the only way to make sure they don't turn out a complete wreck and a waste of space.

>>7828701

Because every child who transition passes and doesn't suicide

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>>7828687
As long as an actual professional is involved and you aren't DIYing it, not at all.

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>>7828687
Yes, would you really allow a child to deform their bodies, fuck up their hormones and sterilize themselves because they feel girly? Believe it or not it's better to let them transition in their late teens when they are sure it's not a phase

>>7828709
If they're transitioning as a literal child, they will pass.

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>>7828687
why are the large percentage of early transitioners butt ugly?

>>7828687
They use blockers on teens not hormones you boy hungry pedophile

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/09/02/peds.2013-2958

>>7828747

>not slut banging the QT on the left

YOU NEED TO GO BACK

>>7828728

This.

>>7828712

The professional should be hanged desu senpai

>>7828728
They don't give kids hormones or surgery until their late teens, just reversible hormone blockers. For that exact reason, to make sure it's not a phase.
Literally all transitioning at a young age is different clothes, different pronouns, maybe different name, and treat them like the other gender. All perfectly temporary if the kid turns out to just be GNC.

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>>7828759
Go back where exactly.......?

>>7828728
P.S. That kid just wanted to learn how to do drag makeup from a MAC cosmetics artist.
That's all.

>>7828759
>>not slut banging the QT on the left

Ikr, there are so many buttons to unbutton I don't know where to start...

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>>7828687
Reminder that this is yet another wave of spam from that same boy obsessed pedpphile who's spammed these same "think of the children " threads


Get this boy obsessed freak out and report him for evasion


Don't encourage him with talk, just report the ban evading pedpphile everyone and and end the spam

A better question. Given how fucked up most trans people end up after dealing with so many years as the wrong gender, is not allowing them to transition child abuse?

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>>7828687
Reported,

Go wank over kids somewhere else you freak, you're evading a perma ban so go somewhere else to satisfy your pedophilic urges
>>7828728
God how disgusting, just how many fetishist images of kids do you have.

I'm gonna live it when they tell the Feds about your cp trafficking you kid fucking freak

>>7828773
Then is it really transitioning? And delayed puberty can't be a "good thing" especially detrimental if a child realises he's cis late into their teens, I study on this topic would be quite interesting though

>>7828773
>its only hormone blockers its not abuse

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>>7828728
Please stop posting your nambla stash

>>7828795
>>7828816


Its you again.

I didn't make those two threads you retard.

Stop it get help.

>>7828824
Blockers are reversible, pedophile

Now get out, you have a sordid history here and we won't tolerate your posting fetishy images of kids

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>>7828816
>kid fetishists

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>>7828839
He has a record of starting these threads and fapping to kids while talking of it. We won't tolerate it and he's always banned for it always.

Best we just burn his cancer before his pedophilic ideas take root here.

>>7828857
If you are going to respond, please sage for courtesy's sake.

>>7828857
Well I'm not OP I thought it was an interesting topic and so I posted my opinion, people started calling me a pedo so I thought it was a bunch of triggered trannies, my bad

>>7828882

Everytime someone makes an anti tranny thread he accuses that person of being a pedo

There is an image everytime I post it he accuses me of being a snuff watching pedo.

Other people have complained about him.

He needs help

>>7828921
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7827682
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7826271

You've been shitting up this board with spam and getting banned. You even admitted you think this is part of some plan where you if you raid enough the board will be destroyed.

I wouldn't say abuse, but I think it's wrong because kids legally cannot do most anything. You can be home alone legally until you are 13 (at least where I live), can't drive until 15 1/2, can't smoke until 18 (except california where its 21) yet we will let them change their gender and sterilize themselves. I can guarantee most everyone's idea for having children has changed from since they were younger.

>>7828687
>>7828728
>Yes, would you really allow a child to deform their bodies,
Half of American parents do that themselves if their children are boys.

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>>7828687

I admit it does make me uneasy, but the longer you wait the harder the transition will be. Maybe it's not child abuse when the alternative is crippling depression and suicidal thoughts.

My biggest concern with children transitioning is the possibility of parents guiding their child towards it just because they exhibit queer behavior, and not dypshoria.

I've always enjoyed traditionally feminine things, clothing included, but I'm perfectly content with my male body and identity. If I were born today, I wonder if I would be pushed into adopting a female role and body, just because I exhibit feminine behavior.

>>7829790
>but I think it's wrong because kids legally cannot do most anything.
Parents can legally have amputations performed on their unconsenting child's genitals. Is willing transition a big deal?

>You can be home alone legally until you are 13 (at least where I live)
Where the hell are there laws like that?

>>7832660
>Parents can legally have amputations performed on their unconsenting child's genitals. Is willing transition a big deal?

>Parents can legally have amputations performed on their unconsenting child's genitals. Is willing transition a big deal?

Medical emergency =/= child being exposed to kike media

>>7829790
>You can be home alone legally until you are 13
lol that is so retarded

dont 11 year olds go OUTSIDE alone? on bicycles for example? inside the house is safer than that

>>7832668
Circumcision is not an emergency.

>>7832678

Cutting off a flap of skin is hardly amputation

>>7832703
But it can lead to complications that result in exactly that.

>>7832703
It's still permanently removing a part of the non-consenting infant's body for no more reason than "so he'll be like daddy".

>>7832672
Apparently not in anon's (probably Eastern European ex-socialist) nanny state.

>>7832703
Actually it literally is, even though the fact makes you uncomfortable, and the foreskin is much more than "a flap of skin."

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>>7832723
>doesn't have to clean his dick everyday
>becomes more resistant to STI's
>looks better

>so he will be like daddy is only reason you can come up with

Regardless, its a baby. Its two steps away from being a fetus that you can legally abort. Are you telling me that baby has more rights than his parents?

>>7832733
Once it's born, yeah, a kid has rights to his own body. The dad can get himself circumcised if they want, but they don't get to make that choice for the kid.

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>>7832762

>kids have more rights over the decisions they can make than their parents

Actually thats wrong.

Parents have the right to have there kid go though a medical procedure. Due to the fact that it provides benefits we legally allow it. Due to the fact that its best to do it when they can't remember the procedure its best to do it when they are newborns.

If I were 18 I would not want to get one only because I wouldn't want to go though the procedure. I would be extremely pissed that my parents didn't just have me do it as a baby.

>>7832795
>Parents have the right to have there kid go though a medical procedure.
So forcibly having your child transitioned is ok.

>>7832829

Within the realm of benefits vs risks and detriments you dense retard.


Cutting off a flap of skin is completely and utterly different than letting a child take hormone blockers or even the opposite hormone at a later age.

>>7832733
>>doesn't have to clean his dick everyday
>>becomes more resistant to STI's
>>looks better
Those are all false and lies made up after starting the custom to make masturbation unpleasant.

My condolences if your parents decided to stunt your sex life. Don't abuse the next generation as the last did to ours.

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>>7832873
>he doesn't clean his uncut dick everyday

>>7832795
>I would be extremely pissed that my parents didn't just have me do it as a baby.

>"Goddammit, Mom and Dad? Why didn't you cut off one of the most sensitive parts of my penis as dictated by ancient Jewish law? Now I am stuck with a fully intact penis and can experience sex with all the sensation nature intended! What a bummer!"

>>7832861
>flap of skin
Liar.

>>7832908
t. nobody ever

>>7832908

Damnit mom and dad because of you I have to clean my ugly dick everyday.

Also its a matter of preference. Getting head without foreskin has been proven it can feel a lot better.

>>7832926
>Damnit mom and dad because of you I have to clean my ugly dick everyday.
Well yeah, you are supposed to wash yourself everyday, I don't see the problem.

>>7828728
That's why we don't do anything beyond "social transition" (basically LARPing) and (reversible) blockers until they're at least in their late teens.

>>7828824
>medical treatment for children is child abuse

>>7828835
That means nothing. Last time the pedo spammer said the same thing, at first, even denying making another nearly identical thread after his first attempt got deleted. Then he admitted to that. And then he did admit to making the LGBP threads, but said he only did it ironically. So don't be surprised if we act a little defensive around those whose posting style resembles that of an infamous ban-evading spammer from around here.

>>7832829
If that's what the doctor says is best, then yes. I had two surgical operations done on me before I was 11, I didn't exactly "consent" to either of them.

>>7832926
>Getting head without foreskin has been proven it can feel a lot better.
Did you know the majority of nerves in the penis are in the foreskin? So ikd why you would think that except to reassure yourself that your parents didn't just take away the best part of sex from their son out of tradition (they did).

>>7832926
I'm not one to usually join the anti-circumcision circlejerk (not because I disagree with it, but rather because the people who make such a big deal about it are usually pretty autistic), however if you're an adult and don't like having to clean you're dick, you're free to get a circumcision then.

>>7832962
>the people who make such a big deal about it are usually pretty autistic
http://au.ibtimes.com/risk-autism-doubled-due-circumcision-study-1413116

>>7832962
>but rather because the people who make such a big deal about it are usually pretty autistic
Or maybe because they aren't from US and A and find the practice shocking.

>>7828687
Fuck off Blaire White. You secretly wish you were an early transitioner so you wouldn't have that nasally-sounding gay voice of yours.

>>7832954
>I had two surgical operations done on me before I was 11, I didn't exactly "consent" to either of them.
I hope they were actually for the best and not cosmetic amputations.

>>7832954
>That means nothing. Last time the pedo spammer said the same thing, at first, even denying making another nearly identical thread after his first attempt got deleted. Then he admitted to that. And then he did admit to making the LGBP threads, but said he only did it ironically. So don't be surprised if we act a little defensive around those whose posting style resembles that of an infamous ban-evading spammer from around here.

Your literally enabling someones schizophrenia

>>7833036
They may be schizophrenic, but last time they were right. The pedo spammer admitted to it, though he still maintained he did it "ironically".

>>7828838
to an extent
putting all your eggs in one basket on the whim of a literal child whom won't fully grasp sexuality until their adolescence is a hell of an ask for a responsible parent

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>>7832954

>hormone blockers are medical treatment for imagination

This is why you people shouldn't be allowed near other kids. Not only are the majority of you pedophiles but you say shit like this

>>7833037

He admitted he made a troll thread saying P should join LGBT.

Its a huge stretch to call that person a CP snuff posting pedo.

>>7833038
Blockers aren't done until the BEGINNING of adolescence anyway. And it's not the "child's whim", it's the analysis of a qualified doctor. You freely trust doctors to not put anything fishy in their flu shots, you willingly give your children medicine without yourself knowing what's in it, but you draw the line at the ability of medical professionals to diagnose gender identity issues? Something doesn't add up.

>>7833042
Very few trans people are pedophiles. You're not likely to be one when the only thing you want near your genitals is a knife or a pair of scissors. And saying that gender dysphoria is merely "imagination" because you think you know better than doctors? No one's going to fall for your lies.

>>7833047
He started out saying he wasn't trolling at all and was merely asking honest questions. Then he admitted not only to spamming but to posting the LGBP threads as well. Who knows what the real truth is, it could well be far worse than anything he's admitted to yet.

>>7833069

Doctors allow it because the alternative involves the risk of suicide.

That doesn't mean its not a product of imagination

>>7833069

>A troll admitted to making a troll thread therefore he COULD be a pedo

>>7833078
So then saying "hormone blockers are medical treatment for imagination" isn't really a criticism, because it's still preventing harm to children. So apparently not wanting children to commit suicide == being a pedo child abuser. At least that's what your flavor of "logic" says.

>>7833087
He wouldn't have admitted to trolling if there wasn't something worse he wanted to hide. He could have just kept denying for hours, but he gave in and admitted to "trolling", because the longer this went on, the more likely someone would be to come up with some evidence of his real wrongdoing.

>>7833087
>>7833047
He posted child porn back before there was good moderation in this board ironically

Just so he could send people running and shut down the board.

Doesn't matter if you break the law ironically, you're still a menace to the board and a ban is legit

>>7833109

There was no evidence that was him you retard.

That schizo thinks he knows how hashtags work but he doesn't

>>7833101
He was getting banned and changing IP, it was like whackamole till they finally managed to cut the adresses he had on hand. He'll probably get new ones soon and be back.

>>7833117
He said the same stuff back then, boasted about the messes he'd made and how he couldn't be touched.

Hasn't changed a bit, they've just gotten better at enforcement.

>>7833119
>He was getting banned and changing IP, it was like whackamole till they finally managed to cut the adresses he had on hand. He'll probably get new ones soon and be back.


No he wasn't.

The guy literally said

HURR DURR THAT IMAGE HAS THE SAME HASHTAG THAT SOMEONE WITH THAT HASHTAG WAS BANNED WITH HE IS A PEDO

The only thing worse than that guy is his retardness has spread to others.

He literally accuses everyone who makes an anti-tranny thread has a pedo.

He has done it to countless other pedos and the mods never ban any of them because he is retarded. They delete the threads for being troll threads and he assumes that means they were
banned.

>>7828687
Before a certain age where they could fully consent to such a big life changing decision.. absolutely

>>7833133
>He has done it to countless other pedos

Thats a weird typo.

Meant to say anon

>>7833133
Except if they delete all your post in the boards, that's a ban thing. And if you stop posting from bans until you get new adresses again that's more circumvention.

>>7833117
Images hashes have nothing to do with "hashtags", moron.

>>7833133
He's still an obvious spammer troll, even without the pedoshit he creates the same thread over and over each time it gets deleted. That's plenty enough reason to ban him.

Oh wait
>He has done it to countless other pedos
So you admit it then? That you're part of a pedo ring spamming this board?

>>7833138
You realize those people get global bans and don't come back?

>>7833153
To be fair some of them openly say pedo is more normal than lgbt and they're all defending milo

>>7833158
Global bans don't mean you can't get a new IP. Lots of people have dynamic IP so they can just press a button on the router. And a lot of the dedicated spammer trolls use proxies anyway.

OP here.

He has done this to me over a dozen times. He posts threads that says I have made but I didn't make any of them.

Not once have I received a global ban.

The mods deleted all the threads on the board because I always have 3-4 troll threads going.

I personally have seen him do it to countless other anons.

If you actually checked the ban list you would see that no one is getting a banned after he does his shit.

>>7833162

Technically pedo has more in common with LGB than T because T isn't a sexual orientation issue.

Also milo isn't a pedo. He made a joke about him being molested, and when he said young boys he meant young men. Its a common gay term. I'm 25 and I still get called a boy all the fucking time.

>>7833192
>He posts threads that says I have made but I didn't make any of them.
The other day you did admit to making the LGBP spam, so they're right with regards to the spamming accusations, even if the pedo stuff is a bit exaggerated.

>If you actually checked the ban list you would see that no one is getting a banned after he does his shit.
The ban list isn't guaranteed to show all bans. 4chan openly admits to this. It's just to give people a sample of what kind of content is ban-worthy, not as a public record of moderator activity. And 4chan had severe problems with a pedo infestation in the past, so they likely want to cover up anything that resembles pedo activity.

>>7833200
You're just digging yourself deeper.

>>7833218

He posted 10 threads he said I made and I made none of them.

The next day I made a pedo troll thread and then when that guy said it was me from yesterday I admitted it was me.

>>7833276
So they were basically right about you. Not bad for a schizo.

>>7833317

There is a difference between a troll thread about letting pedophiles into LGBT is different than posting CP you realize that right?

>>7833329
Yeah but honestly defending pedophilia is something people get touchy about, so don't be surprised when they exaggerate a bit.

>>7833336

Sure I get that.

I'm still going to troll though.

The guy is still crazy for thinking I am a CP snuff posting pedo.

>>7828687
>letting
no
>indoctrinating a child with transgender ideology and supplying them HRT when they themselves are not competent to make that decision
yes

>>7833349
>I'm going to make fun of trannies

This is EXTREMELY problematic.