/tgg/ Trans Girl General

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Does anyone have a timeline of how fast the benis shrinks? How long will it take for it to almost disappear?

>>7807852
seems on average it's micro size after a year
probably will be noticeably for you after 6 months

>tfw someone says you look like a girl

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Does anyone have a timeline of how fast cancer kills? How long will it take for me to disappear?

>>7807997
Look inside yourself and you will see that you are already dead

>>7807991
feels great...

>>7807991
>cousin says I look like a girl in a picture I show him :3
>a few anons I showed said the same

>every stranger outside says "sir"

Unsure how to take it

>>7808136
Does it apply to all trutrans?

>>7808210
only ones who have a lot of trouble passing or have other serious life problems

>>7808209
Maybe they're lying to make you feel better? It's nicer than ignoring you I guess.

>>7808260
Even if you "pass" and I use that word loosely you won't ever be a real girl and exp the real thing. Transition is just like being given a small part of what it's like being a woman but you can never exp the whole thing.

If you're okay with being half girl half boy and missing out on the real girl exp then good for you.

>>7808298
Cousin at least didn't know I was trans, but you might be right.

>>7808303
it's better than nothing...
enough to not be completely dead inside for some people

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im starting too look more like a fruity guy or ugly girl than a guy but i cant full time. what to do aside from hoodiecore?

>>7808414
play with your hair and maybe some makeup
small details can make a big difference

>>7808497
i have short hair because im in the military

>>7808209
pictures lie, real life is what people see you as
pictures distort your face

>tfw walking behind a girl my height and she has equal sized/larger shoulders than I do

>>7807997
Guns work better

>>7807618
Anyone here have any hilarious Tinder Teasing stories? I have two dudes hanging by a rope and they're hilarious.
Cringe and ylyl worthy at the same time.

>>7808549
>military
i will never understand going into the military

>>7809739
good feels

>>7809844
i do not have the confidence to use things like tinder or any form of dating service

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>>7807991
>tfwidktf

>>7808414
Just be a boy with boobs.

>>7810046
I don't either. I was in jrotc in high school and it made me feel terrible. I only took it cause I didn't want to do PE cause that triggered the fuck out of me in high school. JROTC was better but they got pissy at me for not cutting my hair and other stuff like all the guys acting like they were on roids and all the girls not beign fun at all, was really annoying. It made me realize even more that i'd probably rather die than go military, even if it paid well.

>>7807991
"Why are they lying to me?"

>>7809739
It was cool until I realized they were trans.

>>7810046
because signing up to murder foreigners is the thing we're told you're supposed to do when you have no meaning or direction in life

>tfw lesbians hitting me up on POF

Is the meme a lie?

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Does anyone else look a million times more masculine in pictures? I'd look in the mirror, see a cute girl and take a picture of myself, then be face to face with a picture of a dude. This goes for both mirror selfies and normal selfies. I hate this.

>>7807852
>>7809808

>>7812589
Not more masculine but definitely more shitty. I can fap to my mirror reflection but not to my photographs, unless I take a million of them and select the right one.

>>7809844
>Anyone here have any hilarious Tinder Teasing stories?
I don't. I only use 4chan.

So I started HRT when I was 17. I'm 19 now, and I've unfortunately been off for like 5 months now. I'll be getting back on in about a week, finally. I had really good development, breast growth, skin softening, just all around awesomeness, but most of hat has almost completely reverted now. If I start again, will I be able to get back to that point, or did I fuck myself with this 5 month gap?

>>7812652
>>>/mtfg/

>>7813008
I can't. I was born without trip code.

>>7812997
How does it revert so fast? But yeah, probably.

>>7812997
>or did I fuck myself with this 5 month gap
no, as long as you havent got brow bone, chad chin, linebacker shoulders in 5 months you are fine

>>7813119
Idk. Easy come easy go I guess.

>>7813141
Lol my face isn't great but I'm saving up for ffs so hopefully that will help.

A guy just used "I can see you as my future ex-wife" as a pickup line. I have no idea how to feel.

>>7808414
Have you done eyebrows?

>>7813363
Ask him if he has enough stuff to make half of it worth your time.

Been on HRT since July.. test hasn't been going down because of retard strength testicles.

Just went on 300mg spiro and test got down to 80.

Added 50mg cypro to that 2 weeks ago and it's finally low enough I don't make sperm anymore.

But my moods and everything is the same. I've been on HRT before like 4 times and know my own timelines.. I should be a lot more emotional and prone to mood swings but I feel no different. Just a bit of breast growth.

What's wrong.. should I get more bloodwork, or just wait a month to see if my test needs to go down further?

>>7813837
Can you afford an orchiectomy? Spiro and cypro together doesn't sound fun, especially with those relatively high doses.

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>tfw straight beta/omega male for 19 years
>tfw couldn't get a gf
>tfw developed gender dysphoria and transitioned
>tfw it's a living hell
>tfw like guys now
>mfw

>>7813119
It is crazy how fast you lose progress. 5 months and all the cute jeans that my butt used to fill out are getting looser because of my reversion to boibutt ;-;

>>7813037
and you weren't born with a feminised brain so... >>>/AGPG/

>>7813969
Guys are better anyway desu

>>7813858
Yeah I drink like 6 liters a day and need to keep strolling to the bathroom like its a revolving door. Waking up with hangovers and waking up 2 times a night to pee is infuriating.

I can afford an orchi but I kind of don't want one. I wasn't planning on getting SRS and I don't hate my twig and berries too much, more like they're a nuisance.

My biggest issue is that my brain feels fucked. In almost 6 months I've felt no feminization mentally... by now I'd be emotional and have thought changes but I'm still the same old guy.

Kind of pleased to see the breast growth and softer skin and lower sex drive but it means nothing without the peace of mind HRT gives with mental changes.

Is cutting my balls off the only option? I just want to think and feel like how I always should have before I had to constantly detransition..

The cypro I dont mind.. just watch the alcohol.. I can probably cut out the spiro entirely soon but it'll mean nothing unless my brain changes.

>>7814114
Die, binary scum ;). >>>/pol/.

I don't think my brain is like men's either. I'm in a perpetual conflict of values equally with "men" and "women". In my eyes, both sexes are equally degenerate and only their wholesome (non-diminishing) fusion makes sense for me.

To say that brain must be either male or female is the same kind of backwardness as to say that women can't have male chromosomes.

Or a more risky analogy: that everyone must be either left-handed or right-handed.

>>7814220
>I can afford orchids.
Have you considered lilies?

Does anyone else gets anxiety just thinking about playing a game?
Not that you're afraid of it's communities, just from the thought of playing a game...

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>>7817646

>>7817646
no

how do i dress like im not autistic, especially at work wheres theres a dress code. anything kinda andro that might fit the bill during transition?
Dress Code
Guys: collared shirts and non jean pants with no holes, etc
Girls:anything but blue jeans. and a 'nice top'
Both: no hats and wear something that would be generally accepted under a school dress code

>>7817646
in general no, it's one of the only tmes i get to actually be a girl. voice chat makes me uncomfortable though

>>7818595
Hmm I'm interested in this too. I'm not sure how someone would dress andro-business casual

>>7807618
Trying a full face of makeup today and I'm noticing some issues I didn't foresee. My face is a different skin tone than my lower neck, what's the best way to make everything look natural in terms of foundation/concealer? As of right now the difference is quite noticeable.

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What version looks better Lea or Leah???

>>7818778
Leah imo, looks more like a real name

>>7818595
are you being held to the female or male dress code?

>>7818860
male, my work is not exactly trans friendly. A FTM was bullied to quit last year. I do have hopes that they'll let me dress as a girl once/if i start passing

>>7818885
well collared shirts doesn't really give you much to work with

could you wear like a sweater or a cardigan over it? that and some slim dress pants might be okay

>>7818763
blend your foundation in with your neck or find a color that matches it better

>>7818924
yeah i could do that, thanks!

>>7818936
Thank you for the advice. Kind of an amateur so I greatly appreciate it.

before starting on hrt over a week ago i never actually thought about getting srs for real one day but now im thinking yeah might actually do it at some point in the future

is this usual

>>7819706
I'd wait until the technology is better. SRS just doesn't seem worth it.

>>7819706
Yeah that happens. I guess being able to finally not worry about getting on hrt clears ur mind a bit

>>7819822
getting rid of my dick is worth it imo. i doubt technology is going to get better very soon, might as well get srs while you're still young.
you probably aren't as dysphoric about it but I can't enjoy sex with my dick there and it makes life a lot harder with clothes, swimming and stuff, being able to get changed around other people and not worry about getting murdered if a rapist decides he wants to rape me

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>>7807618
>put on a hijab
>realize my face is feminine enough that I could even pass as a muslimah

it's a good feel. good to know that i can still pass as a cutie in case they take over the west

>>7819862
>you probably aren't as dysphoric about it
I fucking hate having a dick and it makes me want to kill myself, but I feel like a fake, barely-functional vagina would just make me feel worse.

I'm probably wrong and it would help me a lot, though. fuck

>>7819996
idk how a neovag could feel worse
whaddu u mean by barely functional? everything works besides pregnancy obv

>>7819996
>barely-functional
Mine functions just fine? Lubrication, sensation, etc.

I'm still working through my emotions to see if I'm really a repressed woman in a mans body, but is there a chance I would ever be able to pass at 6'1" tall with a rectangle body type and a face that could go either way?

>>7820036
>>7820278
i guess some retards scared me with misinformation or something. thanks

>>7820407
There's very little unbiased information out there and I can't claim to offer that obviously, but if you have any questions feel free to ask.

>>7820407
np, lots of people don't know what they're talking about and say bad things. all the mtfs I've talked to post-srs have been happy with their results

>>7820278
I've heard the lubrication can be a bit of a bitch, is it true that it just barely lubricates and needs more to help or does it make enough to do the job?

>>7817646
Being able to play as a woman and be seen by others and interacting with them as a woman (regardless of their assumptions on me being a man) really puts me at ease. Fuck voice chat though.

I can tolerate playing male characters if I have to, but if given a choice playing male characters makes me uncomfortable. Probably because male characters are always built like roided up chads. I just can't relax and get immersed as a male character.

>>7820506
Let's be honest, most of us have been desperate enough to play Fallout 4 as a female character, wear dresses, listen to the female voice and other characters saying our names.

>>7820506
>voice chat
Fuck. When a cis girl starts talking on voice chat i just feel like dying

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>>7820607
I actually haven't done that. I don't think I've ever used my name within a game.

>I did craft my ideal waifu once when I was young before I just felt better becoming the waifu

>>7820640
>tfw not sure if 12 year old boy or cis girl
>die internally anyways

>>7816964
I was mostly baiting you, I'm surprised and glad I got a reasoned reply. I feel much the same, in a way I feel that if I'd been born female I'd question if I should transition to male. If my transition fails I'll be content to be a "femboy" if my transition is successful I'll be content to be a tomboy. Being 100% male or female just feels so alien. Pretty bummed that I'll never be a mother biologically though...

>>7820640
I actually pass on voice chat, feels good

>>7820770
>I'll never be a mother biologically though
This is the thought that will haunt me my whole life.

What's the worst case for buying hrt on inhouse?

>>7820927
Instant, agonizing death

>>7821023
how can death be both instant and agonizing?

>>7820485
If I'm horny, there's more enough to work with. This apparently varies a lot from person to person, but for me it hasn't been a problem.

>>7821084
inception drug

>>7820341
well 6'1 is quite tall for a woman but there are some women that tall so yes you definitely have a chance

>>7820770
>in a way I feel that if I'd been born female I'd question if I should transition to male.
I feel this too desu its a strange feel

>>7821367
if i was born female i would feel right

>>7821356
Thanks for giving me some reassurance that I'm not necessarily destined to be a hon due to my height. Becoming a hon with no hope of passing and seen as a freak by everyone would be hell and I would likely an hero if it was to late to be reversed. I just want to be seen as a woman, or at least a man should being a woman be impossible. Being seen as some kind of degenerate sexual deviant in-between is unacceptable to me.

Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with being a hon of course, I just know it isn't for me.

>>7821465
I'm 6'2" myself anon. This week I've met a few ciswomen at work who were taller than me. It was all at once reassuring and oddly intimidating feeling. Maybe because they aren't a willowy waif like me. Not intimidating in that way men taller than me are, but more in an inadequate way that's:
>ooohhhh look how tall and beautiful she is...

>>7821943
I think I know the feeling you mean anon. I know tall women exist but it's still comforting to hear this.

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I just moved to Utah, Salt Lake City from Portland, anyone in the area maybe want to meet up?

I'm 20, been on hormones for almost 3 years

>>7821440
desu I know I will probably get shit for this but I think if I was female I would probably be one of those non transitioning afab non binaries

like idk if I would publicly identify as that but I feel like that might be where I would be most comfortable

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>tfw tricked into thinking I pass
FUCK HUGBOXERS

I should've known what was up the second they added the ol' "women come in all shapes and sizes<3" disclaimer.

>>7822685
Sounds like a sudden reaction to a bad experience. Can't tell if warranted without pic.

>>7822685
Sorry to hear about your hugboxing experience. What's your story, anon? What happened?

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>>7822695
>>7822699
>friends assure me I pass
>gain some confidence, begin to feel hope
>decide to girlmode tonight
>"Hello, sir!"
>all hope and confidence instantly shattered

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>>7822750
I feel this a lot.. and I've been on hormones for 2.3 years now.

>Everyone sees me as a female
>Go out to dinner with boyfriend
>"What would you like to eat?"
>"I'd like ____, Thank you"
>"I'll be right back with that, sir!"

It's at the point where when I go out with my boyfriend he just orders for me because it saves me the embarrassment and anxiety.

>>7822750
Feels bad, anon. Hang in there, it gets better.

>>7822750
Damn, that fucking sucks. How long have you been on hormones?

>>7822685
Ugh I know this feeling so much I fell for the hug box so hard I donated my guy clothes and now I only have my clothes for fulltime but I don't pass for shit. Im glad I still have old high school stuff but fuck that euphoric hugbox feel like everything is going good with your transition and then it all shatters.

>>7822891
Ouch. :( What happened? Did you pass to yourself before you went out? How's your voice? How long have you been on HRT? How did people treat you?

>>7822844
About 10 months. Started when I was 20.

>>7822920
fuck, i'm about the same in terms of HRT and age. how's your voice?

>>7822920
Lol what did you expect?

>>7822967
Not that anon, but what do you mean?

>>7822934
Voice is good, but this happened before I even opened my mouth.

Not even very masculine at all, but I am 6' tall, and that's probably making this impossible.

>>7822967
It was the fucking hugboxing, senpai. Made me delusional.

>>7822988
not that anon, but it is my understanding that HRT generally takes longer to achieve passable results

>>7822911
You know I didn't really see myself passing that well at all but since people were like you pass just work on yourself thought it might have been some weird perception I had of myself. I'm almost a year on hormones my voice is good it could be better though but I haven't had any problems on the telephone. when I go out people sir me all the time they treat me like a feminine guy more than a woman tho.

>>7822967
>Started at 21
>24, pass flawlessly, in a happy relationship
Just because you lost hope doesn't mean there isn't any for others.

>>7823071
Did you get FFS or something? Lol

>>7823089
Nothing like that, I was just never exceptionally masculine.

Anyone else started to develop a way of just being able to tell the difference between someone who knows you are trans and genuinely "gets it" and sees you as a woman versus someone who just plays along and deep down just sees you as some "other"? I feel like it's in the little things they say and do. Like you can tell someone who genuinely doesn't see it any other way because they don't act the slightest different towards you than any other woman?

Also

Anyone else find the people who clock you and get way, way too excited looking more unnerving than the people who get bothered by it?

>>7823101
What I meant by way too excited, was like:

>They suddenly notice some detail and now you're clocked.
>Their eyes get all wide
>They look way too happy
>Like really with that smile you'd think someone just handed them a gift
>Leaning forward

It's almost always women.

>>7823101
Yeah, it's usually pretty easy to tell if someone's just bullshitting to be polite or if they actually get it. Either way I try not to care since it's like... they're trying? They're challenging their own pre-established perceptions and over time they'll grow into it, y'know? It's an effort I can appreciate.

>>7823123
Oh for sure and I definitely still love their company, it's just the small things that make you kinda defeated inside.

>They're talking about how everyone in the group is a little different or unusual and mention "You identify as a woman"
>Apologizing to you for talking about the more "gross" woman things i.e. periods etc. when it's not like you were reacting anyway

>>7823142
Yeah, that sounds shitty. I haven't had to deal with that in a few years now, but I remember having a few conversations like that when I was still transitioning.

>>7823150
It definitely feels shitty. You can't be mad at them over it either. It just kinda feeds into my desire to quietly fade out of the lives of people I get to know.

>tfw massive shoulders
fuggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

>>7822828
so is it just your voice that is the issue or what

>>7824037
>tfw not necessarily massive shoulders, just non-existant hips that makes shoulders look very large

my bf is into loli
should i break up with him??

>>7812589
yes, if I have to take a picture of myself I usually spend like an hour looking for a mediocre one :c

I hope what other people see is closer to what I see in the mirror than to how my pictures look

>>7825784
loli isnt real

>>7825784
If you don't think he's going to abuse any children, and he's not supporting the abuse of children through buying actual child porn or things like that, then no. He doesn't choose what he's attracted to, and neither the attraction nor his indulging it through loli hurt anyone; he shouldn't be punished for that. If you're uncomfortable with it and it really bothers you then you can leave (it's your choice after all, and if you really can't deal with it then there's no sense in forcing yourself to sustain the relationship since you're no longer emotionally invested in it), but you should at least let him explain and consider what he says properly.

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Post vocaroos

>>7826673
where's yours?

>Forget coat to hide in while forcing myself to use the men's room until my ID is changed (soon!) because I'm really dumb about my passability
>At a shopping mall
>Really, really need to pee
>Standing there having a quiet panic about what bathroom to go in. I'll definitely make a huge mistake going into Men's like this, but too afraid to go into women's and get security called on me (I realize being afraid to go into a Men's room should tip me off)
>Couple of women walk up, peek in, turn and face me head on
>"Are you waiting?"
>Quietly nod
>Everything after was fine

It's been a day. Being terrified and happy at the same time is a weird feeling.

>>7827476
sounds like you pass pretty well
nice job anon

>>7826673
Ok anon

This one
https://clyp.it/ac4ic35k

Or this one?
https://clyp.it/m0hdpc1r

And yes, I live in a ghost town, and my mouth is really dry atm.

>>7822111
I just turned 19 last month and Im about 1 year hrt. Where in SLC? Im in taylorsville right next to the community college. Why'd you move to utah??

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ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR, WHY CAN'T I JUST BE A FUCKING GIRL?! WHY DO OTHER PEOPLE GET TO BE SO FUCKING HAPPY ITS NOT FAIR. I NEVER WILL HAVE THE EARLY LIFE I WAS MEANT TO HAVE AND ILL ALWAYS BE FUCKING MISERABLE BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY OUT OF THIS PAIN. WHY DIDN'T I GET TO BE AN EARLY TRANSITIONER? WHY DON'T I GET TO BE HAPPY ITS NOT FAIR FUCK EVERYONE. TRANNY UPRISING WHEN?!

how much success has /tgg/ had with psychedelics to help relieve dysphoria
i just wanna feel good

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>bf keeps calling me hon and honey as just like an honest pet name and I don't know if I should tell him

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>>7824037
>tfw both massive shoulders and 6'3

>>7831230
tell him, by bf did the same and it was driving me nuts, i had to tell him

>>7831230
it doesnt bother me cuz i thought hon is pronounced hawn

>>7831268
Weird. I've always read it that way too, even though I knew it was probably wrong.

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>>7830675
Sorry for the late response. My boyfriend moved over here and wanted me to come with so I figured the change would be nice. I'm liking it so far.

I don't know if you use Steam or anything but for now I'll leave you my discord name and Steam so you can contact me.

My Steam is friends-only
[spoiler]http://steamcommunity.com/id/TimidasaMouse/[/spoiler]
Discord is
[spoiler]Quiet#1254[/spoiler]

Anyway, it'd be pretty cool if we got to talk more and maybe meet up eventually.

Does anyone have experience with voice therapists? I'm giving up on practicing by myself because I just don't even know how to go about it and I've been looking into that.

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>Meet a woman today with two kids that had a way more prominent brow ridge than I do, would be called hon at least 8/10 times here.
>This does nothing for my own self-image problems

I've decided I'm not trans
I'm so happy

>>7833460
How did you do this, anon? Please share your secret. Either way, congrats! I'm happy for you.
>>7833343
How do you know they're not just passing transwomen?

>>7833585
no pivotal moment or question
just a lot of (chemically assisted) introspection

I'm still me, but I at last know who me is

>>7833585
I don't. Does it matter, though? Earlier in my transition I was compared to some rock singer guy whos name I don't remember by some guy, saying "You look like his sister!" As nice as that was to say, I was still kinda crushed deep down at having been compared to a guy.

I'd much rather people think along female lines when comparing me to someone else than male lines. It's progress.

>>7833667
I realize now my sentence in the previous post might have been confusing; I meant the mom had waaaay more prominent brow ridge. Her kids were just babies.

>>7831157
i did a lot of psychedelics
did not help my dysphoria
didn't make it worse either

>Dysphoria is mostly social.
>Treatment for it regardless is transitioning.
fug.

Remember to report garbage-tier harassment posts and keep this thread clean.

>>7834003
>Acting like this
>Not mentally disabled

>>7833202
I don't feel like I get much out of it.
They do have some analytical tools that can help you get a better idea.

Just make your Adams apple go as high up as possible, and form the sound in your mouth. To add some texture or whatever, you can try to squeeze your throat, pretty far up.

>>7807618
I just want to feel okay. I'm so tired of feeling hurt all the time, I so tired of living on the verge of tears, I'm so tired of praying for every day to be my last

>>7834573
i feel you
it feels like there is no light to reach for

>>7834644
And when that light is there it's so dim... just flicker of maybe being okay but nonetheless haunted

>>7834763
what are you doing to alleviate your problems

This might not be the right thread for this question, but I feel it doesn't deserve a whole new thread.

If someone's pronouns are they/them, how do you refer to them directly? Can I still use "you"

>Hi, how are you doing
>Hi, how are they doing

I am so so dysphoric about my chest/ribs and how wide and deep is (40A or 40AA). Its so hard to deal with, even if I get breast aug (which seems gross to me) I feel like I won't escape it. Just venting.

>>7835665
you'll get over it

>>7835656
yes. if they have a problem with it simply never speak to them again.

>>7835665
yes, you will get over it. lifes easy when you dont have choices.
does anyone know of some other bbs thats not here. the negativity and autism are getting tedious to read.

>>7835656
Of course you use "you". You don't say "hi, how is he/she doing" when you're addressing the person you're talking about, so why would it be any different for "they"?

>>7835656
>using third person prounouns when addressing someone
why would you do this?

>tfw someone tells you you type like a MAN and therefore you're not a real woman

>neither men or women want anything to do with me

How do I come to terms with staring down an entire lifetime of loneliness ahead of me?

Made a /tgg/ discord if anyone is interested ~~

https://discordapp.com/invite/y9FjAa8

>>7836585
it's weird
i have had people say i type absolutely like a girl and others say i type like a guy
and these are circumstances where they know nothing about me
i think it's bullshit

>>7837158
yeah like jesus fucking christ women dont type like susan hons you fucking retards

>>7836613
very funny anon
top troll
i know thats not your discord

>>7826050
t. pedophile
lolicon != pedophilia; don't drag us down with your sick perversions

>>7836585
>>7837158
Women type like teenage boys.
It's hard to tell them apart, but usually the teenage boys will be more vulgar and assume they're of superior intellect of everyone else.

>>7835665
Is it mostly fat, muscle or bone? If it's not bone, you have a chance

>>7837228
uhh desu that's how i type imo but idk

>>7837228
How do men type in contrast to teenage boys?

>>7837238
No smilies, and no excitment.

>>7837206
You don't think that people who like loli might also like actual children? My point stands regardless. I'm agreeing with you, even, unless you don't think that lolicon is okay and child abuse is not, in which case what's your point?

>>7837276
people who like 3d children aren't lolicons by definition, they're just pedos

>>7837289
They're not mutually exclusive; paedophilia is an attraction to children, lolicon is an attraction to loli. And you can't possibly deny that some actual paedophiles look at loli.

Even if you disagree on the semantics, the fact that someone looks at loli is grounds to consider whether they might be a paedophile.

>>7836585
I know this is a really shitty thing to think but I'm interested in like philosophy, politics, and history and when I talk about stuff to people it makes me feel like they will never see me as anything but male if I'm interested in these things

>>7837589
i nerd out on space shit but i dont think thats like a dude thing or anything i fucking love apollo 13 omg and im listening to the flight directors loop now and shit

red orchestra 2 might be a lil different tho lol

>bitter and lonely and hide in a clamshell
>meet someone amazing who helps me stop being so bitter and lonely
>get dumped for a real girl
>hello dysphoria and depression my old friend
>sudden irrational desire to be left completely alone and make elaborate plans to live in the middle of nowhere
>self destuctively cut off everyone I know
>vindicative satisfactory feeling, now nobody can hurt me but myself
>loneliness comes back
>too stubborn to go back to everyone I knew
>wither away from bitterness
>meet someone again...


How do I break out of this cycle I want to get off this ride of mental illness and self hate

Holy hell the small rational part of me tells me I am a fucking retard

>>7837698
You meet people until that person likes you back. Its tough and time consuming, but you'll find them if you keep trying like you seem to be.

>>7837719
That has never happened and the only way I can function is if they hate me as much as I hate myself

I think at this point I'm just a horrible repulsive person and being trans isn't the worst thing about me

I dunno I want to die but I'm convinced I'm such a terrible person I'd still feel the guilt and abandonment and grief even when I'm dead

Fug

https://discord.gg/jDPEC7m

yall can join my discord if you wanntttttt

>>7837642
I'm not talking about video games and shit I mean like fucking russian nihilism and anti-civ and history and nuances of israel palestine conflict what fucking girl cares about this I fucking hate myself for even thinking and posting this because of course girls can be into whatever they want they are still girls it matters how you personally identify not what you are interested in so why is it fucking different when I am applying it to myself

>>7820781
same here, its the best feel

>unsure if I am actually trans
>don't have the time/means to see a therapist right now.
>staying with some friends overnight soon
>have occasionally talked in my sleep in the past.
How do I not out myself while sleeping/get better at repressing for a short while? I'm frequently debating myself on the trans question and I don't have an answer yet. I don't want them to think I'm a gay before I even know myself. I asked /mtfg/ and they told me to just hop on hrt right away, which isn't exactly the help/advice I'm asking for right now.
>tldr: how do I not accidentally out myself as trans?

>>7839999
In what way are you unsure? People don't usually debate whether or not they're transsexual.

>>7840039
A lot of people have a questioning phase before they come to terms with it, are you kidding?

>>7840039
my head is all fucked right now, and I frequently think about things until I'm absolutely sure I've considered everything. If I am trans, I'm likely in denial trying to work my head around it.

>In what way are you unsure?
On one hand
>I don't recognize the man I see in the mirror as truly being me
>I feel indifferent at best towards my dick
>I find myself desiring more feminine qualities like fashion/feelings/etc
>I think of what it would be like to be some of the women I see
>never really embodied many masculine qualities in my life
>I generally feel like I would enjoy life as a woman more
>I think I had feelings similar to this in highschool but easily repressed it at the time

On the other hand
>I think I want a traditional family with kids I can call my own (biological kid that's mine and my partner's)
>I'm unsure if this is just something triggered by stress/depression/anxiety/virginity
>I really don't want to disappoint or be rejected by my friends and family
>I'm unsure if being trans would actually affect anything in my life enough to outweigh the cons of my lifestyle completely changing
>I can't convince myself that I won't end up as a hon at my age (20's)
>I still think I'm attracted to women (sex drive has always been low, but it is pretty much nonexistent these days at only two unenthusiastic faps in the past two weeks so it's hard to tell)
>I feel like going trans would shit all over the person I've been and the things I've done in my past
>not sure if I actually dislike being a man or if I'm just dissatisfied with my position in life in general
/lgbt/ has generally said I sound like a transwoman and encouraged me to see a gender therapist and/or hrt, but I just don't know if I'm ready to accept it as the right choice for me yet.

>>7840221
sounds trans
you should see a therapist when you have the time/means to do so
if you talk in your sleep there is no way to stop what you might say
not really any tips to help you repress that

>>7840253
>if you talk in your sleep there is no way to stop what you might say
>not really any tips to help you repress that
I don't always do it and iirc people have said it's basically whispered gibberish, but I'm still stressing out about it. Thanks anyways.

>you should see a therapist
I intend to as soon as I can manage it. I have other issues (trust, paranoia, etc) as well that I should talk to a professional about anyways.

>>7840275
you will be fine, don't stress about it
it's not like you are going to whisper "i am a tranny...." while you are sleeping

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>>7840286
I realize it's extremely unlikely, but at my worst I tend to be somewhat paranoid about even the smallest non-issue "what-if" situations that will never ever come to pass.

>>7840221
Literally all of this shit:
>I think I want a traditional family with kids I can call my own (biological kid that's mine and my partner's)
>I really don't want to disappoint or be rejected by my friends and family
>I'm unsure if being trans would actually affect anything in my life enough to outweigh the cons of my lifestyle completely changing
>I can't convince myself that I won't end up as a hon at my age (20's)
>I still think I'm attracted to women (sex drive has always been low, but it is pretty much nonexistent these days at only two unenthusiastic faps in the past two weeks so it's hard to tell)
>I feel like going trans would shit all over the person I've been and the things I've done in my past
Is just you worrying about what consequences being trans will have, not about whether you're actually trans. You're still trans even if it's bad for you.

>I'm unsure if this is just something triggered by stress/depression/anxiety
/virginity
>not sure if I actually dislike being a man or if I'm just dissatisfied with my position in life in general
These are actual things to consider when determining whether you're trans.

What makes you think general life problems would specifically manifest themselves as a dissatisfaction with your sex? A lot of people say that (I did too), and honestly from what I've seen it's a desperate excuse almost all the time. Things are complicated, and sometimes it might work like that, but it's unlikely without gender/sex being involved somehow (for example, sexual abuse as a child or a parent being resentful towards you for not being born as the opposite sex); general depression and dissociation probably isn't going to make you want to be female.

All the reasons you gave why you might be trans are valid, though the main ones are the dissociation and the fact that you think you'd be happier as a woman and think about being one. Why do you think you'd be happier as a woman?

>Some guy casually mentions his "last chemo session, to decrease the chance of a relapse"
>People wish him luck and tell him nice things
>Some guy gave him a game key of something he wanted
...

Gotta suck to have cancer... But if you're trans, which is generally worse.
The reaction wouldn't be kindness, it'd be hate and ridicouling.

Somebody should actually start to act the same way people act towards trans people, publicly towards people who have "beat" cancer or even still "fight" it.
Maybe that would open peoples eyes.

been on hrt for like 2 weeks now and literally all the times ive fapped have been while high

like holy shit fapping is just such a boring idea who the fuck wants to do that

oh my god help me im so fuckin frustrated and bored and nothing is going on and i want to kill everyone im so fucking bored

wtf is happening

>just turned 21 years old
>eating birthday dinner with family
>still in the closet, so not in girlmode
>thanks to spiro, I have to pee
>walk into men's room
>man drying his hands says "excuse me"
>"yes?"
>"oh, nevermind"
that was the best birthday gift I've ever recieved

Should I transition before or after I finish med school?

If I do it now I will have to work for a while for it and delay my education, but I will look better and feel better going into school. Also I can ride the free pass of oppressed minority into uni.

If I do it after, I'll make 6 figures starting, and be able to pay off anything I want easily.. but my medical certificates and all will have my old name on it. Also I'll have to wait another 6 to 7 years to finish.. I'm alreafy 26 now.

On HRT at least so I can stall without harm but it's a tough decision to make. Don't really know or talk to anyone who can give me advice or support.

>want to pickup food on the way home but don't bother because they'll call you sir and it'll make the rest of the day sad

>>7843069
congratulations anon, it's a great feel

>>7843099
if you're 26 now i wouldn't wait 6-7 years of school before transitioning

im going to med school too hopefully later this year (in finland so free B) and directly after highschool)

>>7843099
Having your old name on your certificates (therefore indicating that you're trans) isn't going to mean shit when you don't have a chance of passing because you waited 7 years to start HRT.

Start HRT as soon as possible. The masculinisation you'll undergo otherwise is irreversible, and as you said, you'd feel better going into med school (which is important considering the stress; I can tell you from personal experience that things are way easier when you're on HRT). I mean, you'd spend 7 years being unhappily male too. It can't be worth delaying.

>>7843552
I'm on HRT now, sorry if I didn't make too clear.

>>7843771
Oh, right. You have long enough that you'll be as passable as you're going to get and you'll able to change your name before the course is over. I'm pretty sure that so long as you change your name and tell the university about it before you receive your certificates they will reflect your new name.

>>7841681
>being a tranny is worse than cancer

>>7843552
How much masculinization do you undergo in your late 20s?

>>7843182
where do you live that service staff even bother addressing anyone as "sir" or "ma'am"?

>>7843928
Pretty much everywhere in america.

T. Californian who still gets sird

>>7843928
>Hi sir how can I help you?
>Hi, picking up an order for -name-
>Sure thing, here you go sir
>th-thanks...

>>7844003
Are you presenting female? Why do people sir those who are obviously presenting female?

>>7843832
So it's better to put off my transition 7 years to finish med school first?

I really would like to attend uni not as another guy... also affirmative action.

>>7843928
Every service in the world? In the southern USA we call everyone sir or ma'am too.

>>7843946
>>7844003
>>7844032
where i live, people just get straight to whatever you're there for unless they're absolutely starved for small talk

>>7844032
>Every service in the world
hardly, only americans and to some extent brits do it, i don't know any other country where addressing strangers with sir or ma'am is a thing

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>>7807618
All I've done today is just been styln' on peeps in /lgbt/ ALL DAY

>>7844086
irl I'm overweight

>>7844032
If I were you I'd start med school immediately as a guy, and then change when/if you pass. If you think you can milk affirmative action then go for it, but I wouldn't think it worth parading around the fact that you're trans; if you transition while you're there people will still notice but at least you'd go right into being a girl who people knew used to be a guy rather than an "out and proud" tranny.

What benefits would you get exactly, and how do you have to prove you're trans? Would they insist you present as female? Would you need a diagnosis? Could you just tell the university you're trans to get the benefits, then present as male and only socially transition and change your name when you're ready?

>>7843918
Not as much as you underwent in the same timeframe before that, but still a significant amount. And really once you're already far gone you don't want to go any further, even if there's not much left.

>>7844112
Sound advice. I'll definitely think about it. Maybe hopefully in 7 years surgeries will be better and cheaper too.

If only I could get them while I'm attending school but making money with a loan for medical school above your head zzzz

Anons as a trans how do I contribute to society to the max? like dedicating my life to science or something? turning my whole life into a study?

Although I want to this, I am not sure if I would be able to irl

>>7844171
Pay your taxes, take care of your loved ones. That's literally all society asks of you. You're free to do whatever you want with the rest.

>>7844171
yes, study and learning. any field of knowledge.

do not listen to >>7844956 they are a statist.

>>7844989
No I just don't have any ambitions. I pay my taxes and take care of my spouse, and for that I expect the rest of society to leave me alone. It seems to work out pretty well.

>>7842175
i don't understand boredom anymore
i haven't been able to be bored in over 2 years, ever since i had a really heavy mushroom trip

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>>7845203
well im high now so its all cool

imma get more high actually

>>7830372
Not the same anon you talked to

Both sound pretty ok in terms of pitch and timbre, but the first is more natural sounding, and in a normal range.

Make sure you're not straining too hard.

>>7845220
i don't get people who do joints either, like bongs and other glass smoking tools are so much easier and you don't need to roll
and with bongs they actually get you higher

which makeup brands should I use? also what should I even get? a friend of mine doesn't like $200 on makeup a few days ago, but that's definitely not necessary
where can I even get advice on this stuff?

>>7812589
>does anyone else look a million times more masculine in pictures?
Are you me? Whenever I look at the mirror I look masculine, but at least with some redeemable qualities. On the other hand my pictures look like I was a fucking caveman. It's frustrating as fuck.

>>7834573
>2 days ago
From time to time I pay a visit to trans threads here and always forget I'll eventually find these kind of posts. I can just hope it gets better for you.

>>7845715
Are you not trans yourself? That wasn't me but thank you for the compassion.

I'm really not comfortable wearing fem clothes outside yet but I want to be have more fem articles that I would wear. My boyfriend has really been helping me with my trans feelings, even on the parts I think are perverted/shameful. So am I a pervert for wantingto wear lingerie and the like with my boyfriend and in general?

>>7846052
>So am I a pervert for wantingto wear lingerie and the like with my boyfriend and in general?
No that's normal for girls and 75% of trans girls are AGP too. Enjoy!

>>7846071
Agp hype

>tfw voice passes in skype and discord
>tfw it doesn't pass in shitty game voice comm
kill me right fucking now

>>7846162
are you sure it really passes in discord and skype?

>>7846200
yeah, the same guy thought i was a 13 year old in cs go and then i went on discord and then he said oh youre actually a girl
i didnt mention anythting of my gender before that

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>>7841401
>What makes you think general life problems would specifically manifest themselves as a dissatisfaction with your sex?
I don't really know. Like you said I think it may just be a desperate excuse. I'm still resistant to the idea and in denial over being trans.

>Why do you think you'd be happier as a woman?
I don't know if I can really put it into words. It seems like the average woman lifestyle just would feel "right". To be clear I don't mean being a slut or anything like that.

>You're still trans even if it's bad for you.
fuck

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>tfw 10 months HRT
>tfw still haven't failed boy mode
>tfw read about people older than me failing boy mode already
Does it have anything to do with the fact that I wear masculine, baggy clothes to hide my boobs? When people fail boy mode, are they typically wearing androgynous clothes or actively trying to hide the changes?

>>7846420
>It seems like the average woman lifestyle just would feel "right". To be clear I don't mean being a slut or anything like that.
You mean having female social expectations instead of male? And if you're straight/bi, being supportive of your husband and the more passive one in the relationship?

>>7846438
Yeah that actually sums it up pretty well.

>straight/bi
I'm assuming this is from the perspective of being a woman?

>>7846448
I think a lot of us here feel like that.

Yes, from the perspective of being a woman. If you're exclusively into girls then it's different because no husband.

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>>7846457
>I think a lot of us here feel like that.
I guess I must really belong here then. I don't believe I'll be able to make peace with this for some time, but I think I am a feeling a little better now.

Thanks anon

>>7846484
Keep exploring how you feel. You don't have to be the same as anyone else to understand yourself. Talk about how you alike and how you're different to other /lgbt/ posters when you see something you relate to.

>>7846546
>Keep exploring how you feel
I think this is probably one of my biggest weaknesses. I've bottled up and repressed my emotions for so long I'm not always sure of what I'm feeling or how to express it. I've already made some progress since I came to /lgbt/ and started talking about shit, but I can feel an emotional breakdown that's been building around the corner and it makes me hesitant to keep looking inwards.

>>7846568
Have limits and make sure you're in a good place mentally when you explore. Sometimes it's brought me to tears and other times it's left me feeling so glad of who I am.

>>7846578
>Have limits
could you elaborate?

>>7843840
It is.

>>7846615
not that anon
but i feel having limits is not really necessary when exploring your feelings
you want to see them for what they are and you want to really understand them
having limits sounds like it would get in the way of this and slow things and even confuse some things

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how much does ffs cost typically? like 10k? i'll never be able to afford it. my face is too far gone to ever pass without it. how do i live like this?

>>7846615
When you feel too emotional, stop the exploring and come back to it later.

>>7846630
I try not to bottle up my feelings like that, so my advice for people who do feel like they might emotionally break down is to not risk being put off entirely and going back to repression.

>>7846162
that's just normal for games. most gamers i meet are turbospergs who can't tell female voices from children.

>>7846697
i see what you mean now
i am sort of a self punishing person, so if things made me feel horrible when i was exploring my feelings i would just keep going

>>7846686
10k? No, more like 30-50k for any FFS worth getting. Any cheaper, and they'll be more likely to fuck up your face (or just minor surgeries, which can be sufficient for some).

Maybe you could take out a loan or whore yourself out.

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>>7846757
fuck this. i'd need nose/brow/chin work done to ever hope to pass. on my current starvng-artist-waiting-tables salary i'll be able to afford that never.

being a man makes me want to kill myself. but the thought of being a gross man in drag sounds like a hell i cant face.

sorry yall, i didnt mean to come here and bitch about my life but what kind of life is this

>>7846734
>so if things made me feel horrible when i was exploring my feelings i would just keep going
Well... The point is, don't not explore, but don't explore so far/fast that you repress or become miserable. Take breaks and remember that learning about yourself is a wonderful thing.

>>7846774
>i didnt mean to come here and bitch about my life
isn't that what these threads are for?

>>7846774
Stay strong, friend. It sucks to be a tranny, I know. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy desu. But we don't exactly have a choice. Keep your head up and you'll make it. And who knows, maybe you'll get lucky one day and get to afford it sooner than you think.

>>7845468
Just search for tutorials on YouTube from women with similar skin tones to you and styles you like.

>>7846433
I don't know senpai I'm in literally the same situation. Getting worried.

>>7835960
I've been on this ride for 3 years it's not getting better.

And why the fuck are you browsing a thread about people with gender dysphoria if you dont want negativity? Why are you shaming me for posting about my disease in a thread made fir my disease? Fuck off retard.

>>7846433
I feel like failing boy mode and getting called female while not presenting female is for those with great genetics.

Hi. Me transgirls from country far away. Want to do the hormone. How do I proceed?

>>7847611
Fuck. That means I won't pass then. Should i end it now?

Should i stop wearing baggy clothes and jackets and see how it goes first? I'm really not sure if you're supposed to be wearing baggy clothes for male fail though

>>7846842
>>7846891
thanks for support, friends. i think i needed a shoulder to cry on more than anything. i really need to get back to therapy

>tfw no bf
>tfw no chance of bf

>>7851958
>no chance of bf
I'm sure you're a nice enough girl. You'll find that special bf before you know it.

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>>7851958
Same here desu.

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Well, time to pretend I'm a perfectly normal and not depressed person for a few days. Wish me luck.

>tfw no partner to hold me close and whisper in my ear that it's all going to be alright

>>7852498
>tfw no one to love and share things with

>>7852346
isn't being depressed more common than not depressed?

>>7851958
>tfw no bf
>tfwiktf
is it a bad idea to start looking for a bf (tinder OKC etc) early in transition? am I just gonna fuck myself over?

is it a lost cause to look for a girlfriend early in transition?

>>7852845
yes, it will likely not end well
there is a chance you will find someone who will stick with you, but that is unlikely

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>>7855155
Some girls might be supportive early on, but they'd definitely be in the tiny minority and extremely unlikely to find someone like that

>>7855252
That's really nice, that pic. I'll have to look up the thread and see how it went. I wonder if she is bi generally and what she considers her sexuality to be.

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>>7807618
Does anyone have general advice on how to feminize your feet? Tips like grooming, nails, lotions, exercises, spa treatments, etc? Anything?!?!

>>7807852
Three months before I noticed size changes, I think it was due to lack of regular erections.

>>7814220
13 years into HRT and still no mental changes no matter dosage or type. I'd be interest if you figure it out

>>7823101
>>7823116
Yes, wait until they fetish your feminization

>>7837698
Therapist

>>7855568
No pls

I'm married and even if I was single I don't think I would want that kind of attraction...

>>7855568
>>7857014
What would you like? How else are they to like you unless they are already bi?

>>7855568
Spoiler alert. Women aren't fetishizing transgirls when they get all excited and happy like that.

It's because they know you're not a real woman and thus no longer a real competition for attention from others.

>>7857046
So how do you get her to keep liking you instead of going and competing for others?

>>7857054
Not really sure. My only interactions with women involve violence or abuse or murder. I get panic attacks around them and just avoid and ignore them completely.

>>7857022
I'd like to be left alone and ignored, because I'm already in a loving relationship and would rather not have to put up with anything of the sort?

Even still, I've been flirted with before and it just does not play out like that. What I was referring to earlier is just outright unnerving.

>>7857046
This is dumb, by the way. I have an obvious ring on my finger that you'd really have to try to overlook. I left the pool of "competition" a long time ago. How did you even arrive to this kind of thinking?

>>7857059
oh you sound like a reliable source on how women think then... jesus

>>7857072
Marriage isn't a magical unbreakable blood oath of monogomy.

Women love feeling superior to each other and creating a pecking order based on appearances and age. Being trans automatically puts you dead last since you lack a (real) vagina and thus have little market or dating value. This is appealing to women since you can now be their ugly friend so they look better.

They'll pretend to befriend you but they're using you from the instant they realize what you are.

If you get clocked, run far far away.

Is there any possible way to reduce t levels without losing dangerous amounts of bone density due to not being on estrogen?

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How do you all hide your 5 o'clock shadow, if you have any?
I started hormones recently (23) and when shaving my face it dawned upon me I've never had a shave which looked clean, it was always 5 o'clock shadow because my hair has always been disgustingly thick and you can see it through the skin.

I don't have money for electrolysis or laser hair removal so I need to look at other methods. I was thinking of getting foundation and using that on my face because I've always wanted to, but it'll be a long process because I'm a slow learner and fuck up constantly.
That'd be the only thing right?

>>7857086
Yes, believe me I know. I've spent plenty of time thinking about the fact that if I ever lose my spouse the chances of me setting with a nice girl are next to nil.

You sound like your only experience is with women who are in their late-teens/early-twenties and even then basic bitches not worth befriending. Or something, definitely not the kind of women I have experience with. But then the girls I keep around me are ones that are already are married or have boyfriends so I mean. Whatever you say.

Maybe you should consider that shitty people are just shitty people anon.

>>7857100
There's makeup techniques for hiding the blue of a beard shadow using orange/red hues hidden under layers of makeup but honestly anon it looks gross when anyone wears makeup that thick. Just stay in boymode until you can get laser at least. I've had 10 sessions of laser myself, and even after all of that I'll use a tiny bit of concealer/powder (so little it doesn't look like I'm wearing makeup at all) to cover any flaws.

>>7857115
>stay in boymode until you can get laser
Thing is I havn't held a job in years because of issues. I don't expect to be able to hold a job for a good while honestly because of issues (Maybe one day), but I don't see myself doing it anytime soon so the 'until you get laser' is at least 2+ years away and the doctor said I should see good results since my natural testosterone was low.

I don't want to look like a girl and have 5 o'clock shadow, but I also don't want to have shadow and claim I'm a boy when I have tits perking out.

>>7857165
I'm sorry anon, that's awful situation. I don't really know what to tell you, there's guides you can look up that will help you. If you don't have a job though, I'm not sure how you will be able to buy makeup either.

I can't know your situation that keeps you from employment so I won't assume. But the sooner you look for ways to get the ball rolling the better. At least HRT will thin the hair a tiny bit eventually.

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>>7857186
It's alright, thank you for your sincerity.

I'm interested in make up, I wont lie, but foundation is all I'm particularly interested in. I've always found make up and eyeliner and such to be 'trying too hard', I don't want to stand out I want to sort of blend in. Even when I was a teenager I always wanted foundation because you can really smooth out how your skin looks and such.

I might be able to scrape what money I have and be able to buy a foundation pack alone, but I've never had any female friends to teach me how to do make up and stuff, and I'm a slow learner so it makes me troubled, concerned and anxious to think about even buying some because I know it'll be a fair few times to mess it up before I get it right.

But here's what I was thinking and this is where I know I'm wrong (because I'm always wrong)
>Buy foundation / brush
>Find the proper skin tone
>Brush shadow with a matching skin color

And I know it's unrealistic, isn't it? I don't want to cake my face, but it's not as easy as "one shade of foundation and to brush your jaw" is it?

>>7857210
Well it's been a really long time since I watched the videos on how to hide the beard shadow so my knowledge is kinda sketchy but most likely what's going to happen if you do that is that it's going to actually make the shadow stand out more. You -have- to offset the blue-ish color with a warm color first (some guides suggested weird things like orange or red lipstick) and then cover -that- with makeup. I tried it...once when I was early in transition and it just ended up upsetting me badly.

I've always been of the opinion it's better to not even buy all of that and save the money you would have spent up to buy laser sessions.

One last thing, you don't have to have the works but I really recommend you at least do a little eyeliner. Big feminine eyes go a long way.

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>>7857239
Thank you.

>>7857253
No problem anon, I'm going into my 17th month myself (started at 24). You've got a long road ahead of you, but keep at it and stay on HRT. You'll have some really low points. It gets better eventually, I promise.

What would be considered starting early?

What's the best or cheapest country for SRS and other plastic surgery?

>>7857848
As puberty hits.
Under 18 is good.
22 you're pushing it.
24 good luck.
26 don't even bother.
But you can still be in your 30's and transition and hope genetics have blessed you, just don't be surprised if you turn into a hon. Some people when they're 18 transition and turn into hon's.

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fuck, this clip hits me in the dysphoria hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqUJOudrcM

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How can I know if I pass if I don't ever go outside? Outside is scary. I feel like everyone might be looking at me.

>>7860736
you can't desu

>>7860736
video chat on omegle

cis guy here, one of my friends is a trans girl and she's really starting to get on my nerves

>23
>no job
>lives with her grandparents rent free but spends every other week with one of her trans-girl partners
>complains about living with transphobic grandparents (sometimes misgender beucase they're both senile)
>always complains about having no money
>refuses to look for a job because self-diagnosed adhd and depression and thinks nobody would ever hire a trans-girl
>thinks if she leaves the house for a change of pace she'll be instantly and brutally assaulted
>always begs for money

how do I get through to her that she's the cause of her own problems and most of her complexes are entirely made up

>>7862178
sounds like a dipshit, you should just forget about her

tfw young, could easily pass with hormones, and already have had several boymode fails but I still wanna kill myself on the daily.

>>7862371
you cunt

>>7862178
>how do I get through to her that she's the cause of her own problems

introduce her to some people capable of experiencing empathy and intelligent enough to understand that their pov is not the only perspective from which the world can be experienced

>>7862454
dats mean

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>>7860736
I'm a hikki too and wonder the same thing, but let's be honest, I think you and I both know what the real problem here is.

>313 shitposts
>38 images

Mods told me shitposting was not allowed.
Why do mods allow shitposting?

>>7863474
but, most of them aren't shitposts

>>7863480
>posts without pictures aren't shitposts
Now you're talking bullshit. Anons have reported me and mods have banned me for nothing more than submitting posts without pictures.

>>7863499
when did i say posts without pics aren't shitposts?
i said most of them aren't shitposts

>>7863503
>How dare you apply logic to my words!
Let A = "most posts aren't shitposts".
Let B = "most posts are without pics".
Let C = "posts without pics aren't shitposts".
A ∧ B ⇒ C.

>>7863517
but, that is not what was implied
i wasn't even saying posts with pics were shitposts, i wasn't differentiating at all
i just said most of them weren't shitposts and most of them aren't
you aren't applying logic, you are making assumptions and then trying to force them

>>7863525
Your brain is all over the place.
Just pinpoint the error in my quation.

>>7863552
you thought i meant that post without pictures weren't shitposts when i never even implied that or made any differentiation
how are you having trouble seeing that

>>7863525
>I didn't say that posts with pics were shitposts.
There's no arguing here. We agree that you didn't.

>>7863599
>I didn't say that post without pics weren't shitposts
You didn't NEED to say that.
You said that most posts ITT weren't shitposts.
Saying the latter is AS GOOD as saying the former.

>I never said that I had 5 apples. I never meant nor implied that I had 5 apples. I said that I had 2+3 apples. Why do you twist my words?
You seem to be an avid opponent of reading with comprehension.

>>7863599

Fact: most posts ITT are without pictures.

Conclusion: most posts ITT are "autistic shitposts" – per mods and anons' own definition.

>>7863599
Therefore 4chan (you, anons, mods) is TWICE a shit:
1. For allowing and encouraging "autistic shitposts".
2. For reporting and banning me for doing what you clearly allow and encourage.

>>7863599

You must ban everyone who posts without pictures – or you must ban NO ONE.

Because you have already banned one person, now you must ban everyone else.

If you don't, I'm entitled to violate every 4chan rule without penalty.

>>7863599
The fact of 4chan being someone's private property is irrelevant to this: you can have either law or anarchy – not both. Private property does not exempt from logic.

>>7863753
>>7863749
you got banned and now you are throwing a tantrum hey?

>>7863766
>>7863753
>>7863749
>>7863744
>>7863642
samefag

>>7863779
I'm giving you a chance to correct yourself and you are calling it "a tantrum". It speaks tonnes about your humility. Would you prefer if I banned you instead?

>>7863781
>implying

Posting without pictures is Reddit.

That's what everyone says.

Except when everyone posts without pictures.

>>7863788
nothing of what you said made any sense, what needs to be corrected?

>>7863806
You didn't call it "a tantrum" when 20 anons shouted to me "stop posting" and "kill yourself".

You didn't report and ban them.

>>7863809
when was this?

>>7863815
In 1943.

Afterwards, I was reported and banned on sight for nothing more than showing up.

For simply being the person who HAD SAID all those things.

My real "crime" was not thinking what everybody thinks.

Punishing independent thinking – is the only governing law in 4chan.

The only "good" thing about 4chan is that there is nowhere else to go.

The only remaining alternative is going offline.

So I may just as well stay on 4chan and post nonsense.

It's less painful than doing nothing at all.

>>7863908
ohhh, you were intending to post nonsense
you know you can also post sense, thats ok too

>>7863919
No. That you have to deserve.
Not to mention that I would be banned for that.

BTW, this thread is now my personal blog.

Posting sense is against the US Gov policy of preventing online radicalism.

new thread >>7864716

>>7862371
At least actually take hormones then. It can't hurt.

>>7865365
omw to get them, blockers atm
>>7865365