/femgen/

I love Albert, if any of you guys look like him and want a white bf pls reply.

>>7792520
in

>>7792535
hate his voice, love his '''cosplay'''

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Reposting!

Received my first shipment of Bica and Raloxifene from Inhouse pharmacy. They came in a box, and inside was just loose satchels for Raloxifene and tiny boxes for Bica, but they were like, 6 or 8 of them or so.
There's no instructions on how to take them either.

Bica, 50mg.
Ralox, 60mg.

Should I take one a day just whenever? How long until I should be noticing some sort of affect? I don't mean long term stuff like physical shaping, but the short term stuff to know I didn't get sugar pills and was scammed (Despite how highly rated the site is)
In a few days I should notice minor changes like lower libido, hot flushes and other stuff maybe?

Also what dose is everyone taking? The same as me? (1 a day)

>>7792643
don't take the raloxifene yet. take the bica at small doses to start with and work your way up. also that shit's expensive and you can easily get by with 25mg/day, or less sublingually, so reconsider your dosages.

>>7792579
So quick question how hard is it remove those people rather than make a discord that is made up of failed transpeople? And what the fuck is wrong with gay guys joining I mean I'm pretty sure masc guys come into threads here why the separation what did they do try to "chase you"?

>>7792579
What are the requirements to get into the non-public channels? Also whats the discord's stance on different hormones or blockers, does taking them make you ineligible to join?

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>>7792652
>don't take the raloxifene yet.
Woops. I took one of both because I figured that's how it'd be from now on. One of each a day.
>take the bica at small doses to start with and work your way up.
For what purpose? I don't want to wind up 'working my way up' over course of 3 months or whatever, I want them to do their job.
>25mg/day
Comes back to wanting them to do their actual job, though, because not only is it seemingly nearly impossible to split the pill.

You make a valid point about not taking Raloxifene just yet, when should I start taking it? 2 or 3 weeks from now? I don't want to sit on no sex hormones for too long or else issues will arrive.

>>7792698
You have to post a selfie and allow the moderator to judge whether you are fem or not if you look trans you are good to go senpai.

>>7792668
i'm not sure what you're asking. i remove people occasionally but most people who message mods get in. we're not going to let manly bearded gay men in femgen because the population of the discord doesn't like it. we aren't going to let transwomen into femgen for the same reason. sure, there are some inside, but they've integrated well.
>>7792698
you send a picture of your face to a moderator and they let you in. nobody saves the pics, we encourage you to use temporary hosting sites, we reverse image search them too (had problems with getting raided once or twice). nobody cares if you're on hrt; most of the discord is or wants to be on some form of hrt.

>>7792699
yeah holding off on it is a good idea. give it at most 3 weeks, but if your chest hurts, start it.

Hey I started taking Bica 25 mg/d. Bica makes estrogen take effect even if I'm not actually taking any, right? And if so, what effects will happen and approximately when?

>>7792814
Any particular reason though for why I should offset Raloxifene?

I mean, the entire point of it is to offset the Bica. And if I'm taking bica from the get go, I should be taking Ralox from the get go I figured.

>>7792808
It sounds stupid to me but w.e what's the point we have the thread. Also I don't trust anyone enough to give them a photo they are going to reverse search I edit all my photos for the purpose of removing exgif data I've had to many stalkers and pyschos from this site when I was stupid. What I don't get is you have people that are known trigfags from various male to female generals how did they squeak by if you are reverse image searching kek.

I can understand the security but really what's the point do y'all have orgies or some shit lol I guess I don't get the point it reminds me of the shit tier Skype groups offered on this site which were a huge circle jerk. I can say one thing you are keeping the people I dislike from the threads so that nice on second thought keep it up I've noticed significantly less post from failed mtfs lately.

>>7792839
If you have a reaction to one of them and you started taking them at the same time, you wouldn't know which one was the cause.

>>7792732
>>7792808
Ah, thank you. That doesn't seem all too bad then. I'll try my luck sometime in the future and see if I'm good to enter

>>7792732
>>7792808
I don't think I could handle it if the moderator decided I wasn't good enough.

>>7792951
alright
>>7792969
mods aren't supposed to judge how attractive you are but make sure you aren't a masc guy or a transwoman.

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>>7792916
Case in point, but as it stands I'm not entirely sure what I should even be looking for, or at what time period.

I know, it's just my first day of taking them and I didn't expect anything, but my body has always been rather tolerant and resistant to a lot of medications, while at the same time treating them in an unusual manner that's confusing for doctors. Alongside the paranoia they're placebo pills as well...

Hot flushes are the only thing I know to keep an eye on, being the most reported thing with Raloxifene (Or was it Bica, crap!), but with the other I don't hear anything else really. And even then, I was kind of hoping for an estimate before I should expect side effects, because side effects mean they're working. (Like "in one week you should begin to feel decreased libido / hot flushes / etc.etc. type of reply)

>>7792986
How do you know if you're masc or not though lol

>>7793003
Yhey're trying nicely to tell you that you won't get in if the mods don't like you or deem you unworthy, despite them having uggos and trannies already in the group.

>>7793015
it's not supposed to be a group for regular looking guys

>>7793003
are you a 30 year old man with a beard? because they try to join

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>>7792986
How do mods determine these things a masculine appearance can be subjective what's masculine to one may not be to another and as for the mods preventing trans girls good job on allowing Circe, red, zombo, and others I'm too lazy to look up the retarded names they go by.

What's the criteria for being a tranny, cause Circe is 100 percent trans my man doesn't even try to present as male makes a living fucking dudes as a girl.

>Also not liking bearded guys
Don't you know bout daddy Kaulitz?

>>7793040
>are you a 30 year old man with a beard? because they try to join
Well no but I'm at the point where I could grow a mostly complete beard other than maybe patchiness.... I didn't get on hormones early enough reeeeee

>>7793015
I've seen the pics linked they aren't all ugly but yeah they got the tranny vibe for sure. I think if you want to make a trans gen separate of mtfg go do that lol.

>>7793106
Actually, I'm curious. Discord mods, would you let Bill Kaulitz in as he appears in that picture?

>>7793142
He is litteraly a god in either form if they didn't that would be a huge display of lesbianism.

>>7793106
circe and red are banned, zombo doesn't look like a girl
if you look trans but don't identify as mtf you can come in. but that's more of a guideline and less of a rule, it's a huge grey area.

>>7793142
he's a femboy idol i'd let him in regardless of how he looked now

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>>7793156
In fact this is now a hot guys thread post hot dudes gaygen is invited as well.

>>7792520
boxbox is bae

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>>7793161
Sorry, that's not what I was getting at. Would you let someone who looks like he does now into the discord?

>>7793192
yeah he's still got it.
even if he is technically a 30+ year old bearded guy. again, huuuge grey area

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>>7793184
Rocky?

>>7793192
Omg he's perfect lithe bearded feminine features mmn yes anon I'd let him in if I was a mod oh btw who are these shadowy figures that make arbitrary descions on who shalt be fem or trans.

>>7793211
doug ethan ghost sam sara swimp zombo jake
those are the mods

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Would this person get in if they said they aren't trans?

>>7793292
That's just a boy with boiboobs obviously, 100% femboy

>>7793292
Are those eyes real life ?

>>7793240
How pray tell did they become the judges of masclinity, feminity, transgenderism?

Fuck this tyranny I want a true democracy why not do this hold a vote among the user base on who gets in and who doesn't rather than one person's personal opinion.

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Would this person get in the discord group?

>>7793327
I'd let him in my boipussy sadly lesbians aren't into men so no.

>>7793327
That's just a tranny

>>7793292
no
>>7793327
no

>>7793308
if you want a group consensus you can post in the public channel but most people prefer to keep it private

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>>7793359
What about this guy?

>>7793366
>A select group of people make arbitrary descions based on appearance.
>Makes a choice to include that person
>I wonder why those chosen few would want to keep it private.

It's cool if you want to have your sekret club no boys allowed but can you at least separate it from the thread.

>>7793400
there's literally no better solution

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>>7793359
>>7793382
Or this guy?

Why is that is it that these rules are set in place your own vanity?

Even if the discord was not posted here the circle jerk would continue.

I remember an anon last night saying how he'd love to meet a hot masculine guy on the discord they even tried exchanging names had he used your vanitygen discord he would have never met that guy even if it didn't work out.

>>7793240
>You have a mod named Sara
>A girl's name

What the fucking shit?

>>7793452
she transitioned

>>7793460
And your letting them judge who's fem fuck off you stupid faggot.

>>7793464
are you alright? we wouldn't have someone on the mod team unless they're affable and trustworthy

>>7785349
Spironolactone should have a reversible effect upon fertility in males, but I cannot find any discontinuance study on it:
http://www.nature.com/nrurol/journal/v12/n7/abs/nrurol.2015.145.html
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/jcem-45-2-255

>>7793485
Meaning, that taking it indefinitely and discontinuing when you wish to reproduce should be fine.

Femgen regulars I propose a vote given a trans girl is a mod on a discord made for men who wants to remove the discord from the op from now on?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12385337

>>7793464
y u so mad tho

im not allowed in discord and u dont see me having an autism attack

>you have to send a pic demonstrating you are fem in order to join the discord
>anyone of at most 'moderate' masculinity gets approved anyway
>only old normal men or particularly muscular people get denied, assuming they sent a pic to begin with

i think this is a sensible course of action

>>7793507
Eh I just hate to see trannies ruin the last good place on LGBT and I've been noticing it slowly.

>>7793510
i don't understand why anyone would get so paranoid that one out of the 8 mods is a transwoman when the discord demographic is pretty similar

>>7793516
can we please not forget that we are talking about actual human beings here?
one tends to forget when posting on the internet...
there can be no reason to be this hurtful/angry in this situation
like... what did this mod ever do to you lel

>>7793507
I've actually never tried the moment I found out my face and body is to be judged by another I bailed on the idea now that there are trans moderators it's a good thing.

>>7793527
>Similar

And this right here is why I don't post there when did fem gen become tranny gen?

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>>7793553
>1/8 determines the majority
okay be honest is this you

>>7793510

So no chasers allowed in?

>>7793563
depends if they're fem4fem

>>7793563
you can cruise in public though

>>7793560
It's not.

Why won't anyone answer?

>>7793382
>>7793412

>>7793595
(You)

>>7793560
But seriously why are you allowing trannies answer that do you really want this place to become the den of intiquity mtf general is?

>>7793601
femgen is so laid back and calm; it's nothing like the other discords on lgbt. we have some transwomen in the group because they were either in the group before we got stricter or they transitioned while they were in the group

>>7793595
i think the second one should be begrudgingly allowed

>>7793601
You've allowed 3 trannies already the next person that transitions my money's on another mod I heard ghost gets triggered when you call him a girl pretty big sign of being trans.

>>7793621
lmao he looks like a literal chad

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when did femgen become so pro-hormones?
I used to frequent here 2-3 years ago and people either transitioned or made do with shaving all body hair.
when did you people start to casually pop tittle skittles?

>>7793750
hormones are perfect if you want to look cuter. it's a no brainer tbqh

>>7793750
When everyone started realizing femboys are all mtf's in denial

>>7793750
yeah it was weird how femgen changed so radically so quick

>>7793750
If you can do something the easy way, why do it the hard way?

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Why arr fembois so unlikeable?

They have the personalities of a tryhard masc from mascgen because they dont want to be seen as trannies even though its obvious that they are repressed trannys.


Not only that but they are rude as fuck compared to the transgirls cuz le mean ebim banter xD

>>7793750
I remember making suggestions about taking hrt a while back and people shunning the idea. Idk what happened.

>>7793814
People came to their senses and realized that there's no shame in owning your body.

I stop posting for one day and it all falls into chaos!
>>7790836
Estrogens are the class of compounds that effect the estrogen receptors. Estradiol is a specific example of an estrogen that is present in high quantities naturally in humans, and of course in larger amounts in females than males. Raloxifene is a SERM, selective estrogen receptor modulator. It has a strong binding affinity for both the alpha and beta isoforms of the estrogen nuclear receptor. What matters is if it possess activity at the receptor. If it does not nothing happens and it blocks things that can do something from binding, because it is already there. That is called antagonism. If it binds and has activity, it is an agonist. Inverse agonists are not applicable to the estrogen nuclear receptors. Partial agonists are agonists with very low activity. For the estrogen nuclear receptor, the ligand (here, raloxifene) must also bind to the needed coactivators and corepressors. If it does not, it essentially acts as an antagonist there. This allows for the selective effects of raloxifene beyond simply alpha and beta receptors. It does not not bind to the breasts, it binds and does nothing, that is the entire point, that is why it is used for breast cancer! Ignore estradiol, it effects are negligible compared to raloxifene for breast development to not occur.

The raloxifene is essentially an estrogen, with tissue-specific effects!

>>7791786
These drugs are used because they have a reduced chance of causing reduced libido or hot flashes compared to some other things.

>>7791375
>>7791377
>>7791417
Raloxifene increased levels of LH and FSH, indicating that it acts as an antagonist in the area of the brain that controls production of the sex hormones. So, it does not act to reduce fertility via that mechanism.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080785

>>7791826
Bicalutamide and raloxifene is typical for the femboys.

>>7788356
Just wondering, in what way would one change their nose or jaw to be more Asian?

>>7793946
FAS ≡ FFS

>>7792837
Estradiol concentrations should increase in response to taking bicalutamide, but it is typically not into the normal female range. Getting a blood test is a good idea, but you likely would have to take either estradiol (if you want full feminization, including breasts) or raloxifene (no breasts, uncertain feminization elsewhere) to avoid the adverse effects upon mood, cognition, bone density, and lipid profile (important for cardiovascular health).

>>7793124
We already have /ttg/.

>>7793198
Cute.

>>7793951
>>7793946
Can you give me some specifics? How does an Asian jaw and nose differ from a white person?

>>7793750
>tranny tits
>limp dick
no thanks, all natty is best

>>7794023
Those are unlikely with bicalutamide and raloxifene.

>>7793572

bear4fem...

>>7793772

So you can have a hard dick?

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>>7793774
I've met plenty of many real life femboys which made me wanting to avoid being associated with them and become more of a twink than anything. They lack the personality and spine to have their own opinions and knowledge when it comes to debates or arguing, they lack self consciousness, generally just want to be loved but not have anything to love about besides appearance. They're the most natural sluts.

>>7792998
Uh here's the thing, there's not any documented sides of raloxifene and nobody really knows properly what it does, especially in men on bicalutamide

>>7792986
>ywn be able to share your appreciation of femboys in the discord server

>>7793750
andreja pejic and snowflake strashko coming out caused a sea change in what the culture idolises

strashko in particular made the idea of "femboy = a type of nonbinary" more palatable

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As a hikkimori non neet who wants to get Lazer or electrolysis how do you boys go about it I hate situations like that cause 1. Everyone will think I'm trans when it couldn't be the farthest thing from the truth. 2.having to put your body in comprised positions which trigger my rape paranoia. 3. I have boy boobs now big fucking mistake btw that no doubt I'll have to take off my shirt and show.

It fills me with so much dread I want to crawl into hole I fucking need Lazer on my face swing a beard on me fucking kills me but the idea of strangers seeing the perverted faggot I've become isn't comforting either.

>>7795291
So long as you don't tell anyone you've had laser or electro on your face, they will just assume you keep yourself shaved.

I had a tiny bit of leftover acne pigmentation that I used as an excuse to tell my parents about why I was seeing the dermatologist.

>>7795301
Going to an office for a service for females just fills me with dread my parents don't care they almost want me to be trans lol my mom said she'd take me on my next day off but fuck I can't deal I wish there was a way I could get this done myself. My anxiety will go through the roof if someone uses girl pronouns I'm running out of there naked or not I suspect with my noobs that will happen.

>>7795325
How much does that cost anon?
Count your self lucky your parents don't hate you, plus boiboobs are cute.

>>7795325
You don't need to be embarrassed about "Going to an office for a service for females". If its a normal dermatologists office that preforms other services as well as hair removal, you are going to see both men and women in the waiting room getting checked in. At least from my experience in the local office.

How do you guys feel about being on horomones? Do you lose your sex-drive? Do you find yourself getting positive attention "straight" guys?
I thought I was straight but there is this kid at my college who im pretty sure is on hormones and i wanna fuck him and ive seen him getting some stares from other guys too who are regular chads, and not in a bullying/assholeish way but sneaking glances...
Strange times we live in

>dont accept people into their groups
>completely xenophobic
>'why cant i find a boyfriend wahhh'
are you people serious?

>>7795479
Loss of libido only occurs in a few percentage points of cases while taking bicalutamide. There is a study linked in the Pastebin in the OP.

>>7795325
why tf would you be naked for facial hair laser?

>>7795479
just like in my omocat comics

http://www.strawpoll.me/12387292
http://www.strawpoll.me/12387292
http://www.strawpoll.me/12387292

feel free to describe your experiences so far below. I think it makes sense to see what kind of first-hand knowledge base we're working with here when we recc this stuff.

>>7795338
They used to hate me lol but overtime that changed my dad watching the Bible tells me so really changed that aspect. Used to be red-blooded conservatives who boycotted Disney now they want me to go to pride and find a boyfriend.

Boyboobs are cute on people who don't look like shit I happen to look like shit :/

>>7795352
It's not the only laser clinic we have treats females and has advertising directed at females I hate it I don't wanna out my self but shaving fucking sucks

>>7795338
It's only 300 for a medium area six sessions with my Groupon.

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>>7795598
i'm extremely interested in hearing the responses
please go into details guys

>>7795653
Thank you, that seems like a great deal.
I don't have much, but I hate seeing any of it.
Smooth boys are best boys.

>>7795582
For the parts that aren't facial hair like my legs arms and ass.

>>7795479
I lost my sexdrive currently working to get it back but after a year on cypro I'm more than likely fugged. Its an awesome time I wish hormones where as accessible when I was sixteen I'd be fucking gorgeous but for now I'm mistaken for an eighteen year old on a daily basis so that's nice at my age. You should find out if he's gay and pound dat boipucci.

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>>7795831
Right, I remember being 17 and wanting keep muh dick function, I just wanna keep looking cute. Kinda nice, I can buy booze and still look like I'm in highschool.

>>7795479
I'm on em. They're good. been on em for about a year now and no regrets whatseover. My butt got BIG and i get catcalled by straight dudes. also helps that i also dress pretty fem all the time lol

>>7792643
make sure you take them after a meal or you'll fuck up your liver. i take 25g a day

>>7792699
get a pill cutter for like £3 off amazon

im 21. 22 in 4 months. is there even any point of me getting on bica / rax.

>>7795963
>Take them after a meal
Thanks, I actually did not know this. They came with absolutely zero instructions and just say 'take as prescribed', good to know I was going to begin fucking my liver up so I can avoid that safely.

>25mg a day
And it's doing a lot for you then?

Are there dominant femboys who like trans girls? I think you are super cute and I'd love to date one and hug and cuddle :3

>>7796370
transgirl chasing a femboy, whats the catch?

>>7796386
I'm clingy, does that count?

>>7796370
>I think you are super cute
Who is 'you'? You're not replying to anyone.

This sounds so incredibly shallow it's almost like bait.

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>>7796399
hence my skepticism

>>7796399
You as in "you femboys".
English is just a shit language.

>>7796399
>so incredibly shallow
welcome to /lgbt/ and /earth/, friend
enjoy your stay, unless you're not aesthetically pleasing, rich, or powerful
then you're just fucked

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>>7796445
I really should just fucking kill myself seriously, there's no denying it at this point.

>>7796454
why would you choose to do that?

>>7796454
Everyone can look ok. You just need to find your style and maybe put some effort in.

>>7796454
is that himegoto:jukufukuduku ('the '19'' one?)

such a good story

>>7796098
Yeah but at that point you might need to add oestrogen, depends on how you look, you won't grow tits or anything but yeah you'll be sterile after a while. It'll really help to undo any damage, I guess you could check out /r/transtimelines if you're feeling really down, magic does happen occasionally!

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>>7796468
Read the post being replied to.
>not attractive or cute
>Poorfag
>Not in a position of power and I can only lift 20KG with both arms
My expiration date has past.

I should outie-5000.

>>7796494
Not sure sorry.

>>7796487
>Get absolutely hammered for my style
And that's how I learnt to never post my sense of style ever again even though I like it.

>>7796138
yeah I didnt know either until I took them for a couple weeks and had the worst pain over the course of another week (had no clue what was causing it, litterally bought a hot water bottle cover cause I thought the rubber smell was making me sick).

yeah, im probably low t anyway. ive only been on them for 3-4 months, and im taking them with e. Im definitely getting more fem (though not much face change yet).

>>7796617
yeah just checked, its this girl(or the crossdresser who dresses up as her)

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>>7796662
>taking them with E

Doesn't taking all this stuff with E basically make you Trans though?
Fuck me, despite Biochem Anon coming in here constantly and dropping some science I never understand it still.

I'm panicking a little I have it wrong and that I should be on some small amount of estrogens too, but I don't want any tits. I thought this thread was in agreement Bica + Ralox is the 'femboy mode aesthetics' we all want but then we have Anon's like you who take Estrogens to advance their feminine-ness.

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>>7796617
>>7796686
forgot the pic

>>7796694
its fine to take them without e. that just youre not gonna get as much feminization. at that point its more just to make sure you dont further masculinize.

ralox as far as I know is just to stop the adverse effects of not having a sex hormone

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>>7796724
Hmm, I was thinking it'd be feminization, just not enough to turn into a woman.

>>7796617
that was me, silly!
i'm just wondering why choosing death is the automatic response to perceived hard times
but let's break things down a little, first...
>not attractive or cute
this is somewhat subjective, and it's highly unlikely that _nobody_ out there would find you attractive (assuming you're just a random person)
and, to add, some people are actually attracted to unattractive people, though typically for...just as shallow reasons, but still
i'd ask for pics, but i don't like asking people for things i won't do myself
improvements can be made to anyone though, if they have the resources for it
>Poorfag
this is a difficult thing to deal with in many cases, especially if you're after women or people who are fem in general
there usually isn't a clearcut way of ending this, but it's not impossible under most circumstances
knowing the specific circumstances is required for useful feedback though
in general terms, you can't really go wrong with self control (very little, if any, luxury spending) and wise money choices (if choices are even available)
>Not in a position of power
that depends on how much and what kind of power you're talking about
some people treat being a manager of a fast food place as being ruler of the universe, and some ceo's feel powerless because of being cornered by shareholders; and a lot of it is really how it's viewed, as with many things
>and I can only lift 20KG with both arms
this can be worked on through working out (unless you have specific bodily disorders), and working out (at least for low levels/intensities) can be done super cheaply
the most expensive thing about it would be the potential increase in food consumption
>My expiration date has past
how old are you? and what makes you think this?
>I should outie-5000
the only way to guarantee a loss is to not try at all
it will be hard to work on, don't get me wrong; i'm just saying it will also be worth it

>>7796730
what kind of stuff did you think itd do

>>7796771
Softer skin, Less hair growth, redistribute fat a little, change bone's a little (hopefully, not to an extent to matter), maybe lower libido, probably change hair oils and such that it changes there too, if my natural body odor changed a little too I'd take that, sensitivity increase in some areas (maybe)

I just figured estrogen would give all this, except in the "you're going hyper drive mode now".

I didn't know it was "You're halting masculinity, but you gain nothing else. What you are now is what you'll be forever"

>>7796863
man wtf is wrong with this board, i want to be a 300 ton dragon but i don't expect to grow scales and breathe fire from taking some pills

>>7796863
Idk, all of what you said sounds realistic, maybe you just got unlucky.

>>7796863
yeah you will get some of that feminization, not sure what ou mean about changing bones (other than making them brittle if you dont take ralox or e)

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>>7796883
As much shit as Anonymous culture gets this is kind of why I don't mind the idea of trips, because this mistakes happen.

I'm the Anon who literally started yesterday. I havn't gotten any results yet because it's been one day. I was just paranoid I had gotten the wrong idea of what to expect, and that my expectations (the things I listed) were estrogen only then my quest failed... I still don't know if I have the right idea about it or not.

I'm not taking estrogen, but I want to be more femme, but I don't want to be femme enough that I look like a literal girl. I thought Bica + Ralox gave me this, but with how many people come in here and go "I take estrogens.", I thought the problem was *with me* (wrong expectations and understanding of hormones)

I'm a fukken scrub shitcunt moron tell ya right nao ey

>>7796863
estrogen will give you all of that but also tits and probably break your dick in the process

ralox won't result and tits but its' unknown how much of the rest you describe you'll get on it either

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>>7796917
This calms me some. Basically if I don't get the results I want in like, 8 months, then cut my tits off and take estrogens. Got it !

>>7796909
Im the first guy who was answering you. youre not wrong those things will happen, just to a lesser extent.

on the other side the big problem with e is the infertility. if you wated to not look like a woman youd just take a lower dose, its slow enough as it is

>>7796938
what do you mean by this?

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>>7796975
I never, ever want kids, and I would gladly chop my balls off right now if I could and replace them with silicone ones. I'm gay so there's not even a remote chance of me having or wanting kids.
But Estrogen will give tits still and I want to 100% avoid those with absolute certainty. Do not like tits. No thank you.

>>7796981
Well if estrogen is just 'hyper drive mode' for the effects, then if the Bica + Ralox aren't the 'exact effects' I desired then I should look into estrogen to get the effects I wanted, right?

Say if Bica+Ralox doesn't give me smoother skin and make me look softer, but Estrogen did, and smoother/softer skin, then logically I should go on Estrogen, right?

I don't expect to get *every* effect from Bica+Ralox because as it's said, "We don't know what you'll get and not get" because genetics plays its hand. I just mean, if in say, 8 months I don't look as femme as I wanted, I should take estrogen, and cut my tits off so I don't get breasts.

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>>7792520
>tfw not cute enough to be femboy
>tfw no cute femboys to date near me
>tfw soon none will want to date me because 21 is 90 in femboy years
>tfw I will never have a cute relationship

"dominant femboys don't exi-"
https://twitter.com/DomTheStud

>>7797011
just get rich and have a exploitative femboy relationship instead

>>7797038
that's not cute tho

>>7797008
yeah tits would be the problem, if you definitely dont want kids id still take bica and e just go low dose. like 2mg e per day (or 1 but im not sure if thatd cause problems). you probably wont need to cut off the tits for a good long time, for example im 4 months in (1month 2mg and 3 months 4mg) and I could still walk around shirtless without anyone really noticing (i dont kow if it would be better or worse if I worked out though)

>>7797011
What area anon

>>7795325
I've been to laser a few times now, I look a bit like a tranny but honestly no one there cares. They asked why I was getting it done and I just said, "I hate shaving everyday."

We proceeded to talk about the weather, she lasered me and I left. Repeated this 3 times and it really isn't a big deal at all.

Most laser places offer deals for manly men too you know. Especially with the bodybuilding culture in my country. Men often get their chests or backs done.

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>anime avatarfagging
>talks about poisonous drugs to look like an anime character
>facial surgery to make yourself look female
>the ones that looks the most female are praised
>NAW WERE NOT TRANNIES


Taking drugs to fit a jewish forcefed concept of beauty is insanely autistic. Feels good you'll all be dying at a young age tho.

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>>7797128
Well, even low doses are still tits. I don't know, maybe I should consider 50mg Bica, 60mg Ralox, 1~2mg Estrogen everyday.

I'm just worried about acquiring tits, I don't even want A-cups. It's pretty much a phobia at this point with those things. Even if I could chop them off, it'd be costly.

Next time I go to my doctor I'll ask him to give me some estrogen then, 1mg a day I think. Then if I see too much breast development I'll just cut back on the estrogen.

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>>7797190
Welcome to /femgen/, I hope you've had a good time laughing at us today. Whatever we can do to make you happy.

>>7797199
>tfw 3 years into hormones
>entire wardrobe dedicated to hiding my boibewbs
>always have to plan around them in regards to what I wear and how i move and what I do
>considering getting a binder and hoping it doesn't feel too uncomfy and deform

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>>7797236
W... What dosage are you taking of estrogen?
I need to avoid whatever that is.

>>7797236
Do you even still pass as a boy? That's a long time on hormones lol

>>7796694
>>7796863

I'm on E as well, as long as you aren't on much and your mother has small boobs chances are you wont even notice having boobs.

E definitely helps to feminize and tiny boobs blend well if you have a bit of muscle to go with it. They just look like pecs.

>>7796938
That works I suppose.

>>7797011
I'm 23 and I still get hit on. A lot more than I did when I was 18. Don't let it get to you too much.

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>>7797236
>On for nearly 3 years as well
>Always wear some kind of fleece or hoodie when out, at work, or inside
>Thinks its working well enough
>Mom buys me women's hoodies for Christmas
>tfw you might be going too far

>>7797296
iktf

>>7797296
What kind of girl hoodies are they?

Hi thread, seems a little negative in here tonight. Gentle reminder that:

Raloxifene will prevent breast growth, even if taken with estrogen;

Estrogen is only necessary if you need to substantially de-masculinise (and also YMMV);

Estrogen will cause infertility but it's not well documented just how permanent this infertility is;

You can achieve a more femme bod just by getting rid of hair, dieting, doing the right workouts;

Taking hormones to meet your goals doesn't make you transgender, and your appearance does not make you trans either.

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>>7797236
>falling so deep into the HRT meme that you basically become a cis male FtM
this is some really advanced shitposting guys

>>7797311
ralox with estrogen can give you tits because they compete for receptors
also all of the information here is in the pastebin

>>7795479
>How do you guys feel about being on horomones?
Estrogen is amazing!

>Do you lose your sex-drive?
No, but the feelings are a bit different, like tingles everywhere. A lot of times I want to be held really bad and just melt, and then there are times where I really want to get fucked, like hard.

>Do you find yourself getting positive attention "straight" guys?
I'm not totally sure if it's real or in my head. My guy friends who don't know I'm on hormones seem gentler around me. One even did this heart-to-heart thing in a car once where he held my hand and started telling me how I was so awesome and different from most people, until we were interrupted. One guy accidentally used a girl nickname for me a couple times. More than a few times some random guys say things like "i think that was a dude". I've had a couple guys who seemed straight chat me up in bars. One was trying to impress me with his arm tattoos, and I didn't realize until after. I don't have tattoos or piercings so I don't know why he'd think I'd care. Another, outsider to our group, bought me a drink, but not the rest of my buddies. But, again, maybe just hallucinating.

>>7797309
This in purple, as well as a different pullover grey one with thumb holes and a blue inside hood lining that I can't figure out because I cut the tag off :\

http://www.jcpenney.com/xersion-studio-full-zip-hoodie/prod.jump?ppId=pp5008050430&

>>7797352
Doesn't really seem like it would be very noticeable unless I guess there's a boob-space in them.

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>>7797272
>I'm on E as well, as long as you aren't on much and your mother has small boobs chances are you wont even notice having boobs.
My mother is literally flat chested, and anorexic.

I think I'll definitely try 2MG of estrogen with 50mgBica/60mg/Ralox now.

>>7797161
rural midwest

>>7797397
you might not need 50 bica btw 25 is fine for most apparently.

>>7797405
IL?

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>>7797425
>IL
lol I wish, KS

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>>7797347
>No, but the feelings are a bit different, like tingles everywhere.

How on earth do you guys keep your sex drive it's the one thing I miss so much sex sucks now I wonder if my dose is fucked or if I'm cursed or some shit.

I probably started too late 24 when I started I'd give anything to precum while getting my boipucci pounded again.

>One was trying to impress me with his arm tattoos, and I didn't realize until after.

That is really cute tho anon your living the dream getting straight dudes is the holy grail of all hook up they just fuck better has been my experience. I hope you get a hot straight dude do they think your a girl or anything tho? Cause that could be dangerous be safe.

>>7797450
im on tranny doses and my sex drive is same as ever. are you on spiro/cypro and nuked your balls by accident or something?

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>>7797176
What should I do as far as the appointment should I grow it out? I already have a full beard cause I kinda have up trying I'm a hikkimori so why even bother lol. I shudder at the thought of socially interacting can't I just get my arms and face down while I listen to music. how much was it all together and if I post my bearded self can you tell me if Lazer will even work?

>>7797469
I was on cypro for a year so yeah I wanted to unfuck all the masclinity I had so far it's kinda worked but yeah I think I killed my dick.

>>7797493
Darker hair / light skin combo has better chance of laser working. Yours isn't black for best chance, but your beard might be dark enough to have a good effect. I'm not that anon but I'd honestly recommend electrolysis if its in your area

>>7797397
Should work out well for you then! Enjoy! :P

>>7797493
Like >>7797512 said, I'd recommend electrolysis for your colourings.

First thing to do is contact a place that does laser and has good reviews. Absolutely essential you check the reviews otherwise you may get an untrained technician and burns.

Next tell them that you were thinking of getting laser or electrol and ask if they provide a consultation where you could try a small patch.

Ask them if they would prefer you clean shaven or bearded. I was told to go bearded the first time and clean shaven each successive time.

You will not be allowed to listen to music headphone cords get in the way of laser around the face and it literally takes like 3 minutes to do the whole beard.

A hint, only get a patch done at first and focus on doing your face before any other body hair. If you were on hormones then your face would be the only area that doesn't really thin naturally and so the only area that needs it.

Last hint, stop being hikkimori and learn to socialise. You've obviously worked yourself into a panic over a really minor social interaction and that can't be a healthy lifestyle to maintain.

>>7797450
>sex drive
Do you play with your boiboobs at all?

>do they think your a girl or anything tho?
I don't see how they could. I mostly wear jeans and hoodies, and talk like a guy. I really have no idea how I'm perceived.

>be safe
Thanks, anon. Recently, a family friend's mom, who I rarely see, actually gave her big viking type son a lecture before we went out one night (not a date). Like no roughhousing, and doing wreckless shit, make sure you take care of anon. Then, privately, she gave me the "those boys can get pretty crazy, don't let them talk you into anything you don't want to do" speech. That never would have happened before. It was kinda nice, tbqh.

>>7797508
Yeah man, the femboy drug is Bica cypro in particular murders the testes

>>7795479
i swear femboys give off female pheromones

>>7797315
kek

>>7797347
>No, but the feelings are a bit different, like tingles everywhere. A lot of times I want to be held really bad and just melt, and then there are times where I really want to get fucked, like hard.

I get this and I don't use hormones. I've actually wondered for sometime why my body is differing from regular guys and I wonder what plays its part in that.

Do any of you have such incredible sensitivity that being touched somewhere causes everything you're doing to just simply stop? I get touched on my back and you can stop me mid sentence everytime, it feels so good sometimes I moan a little. My back, shoulders, sides and neck all give the same result. I lock up, whimper and moan and I can't think.

After an orgasm do any of you get a tingling in the legs? Like, an electric shock (from your butt, back of your thighs, and to the soles of your feet) that just doesn't go away for up to 40 minutes and it breaks your balance, and you can barely stand. And this is with just a regular male fap, too.
I even ahegao and my mind goes blank because it's really too good.

Guys say they don't get any of this stuff, and that I really am a special case in this regard, however it's with problems too; erections within' 24 hours of an orgasm feels like someone's strangling my penis really hard.
I can literally fap, get close, walk to the fridge and come back and I have no physical urge or desire to really continue going. I don't get blue balls either in anyway and I've never had a wet dream ever.

>>7797702
>
Do any of you have such incredible sensitivity that being touched somewhere causes everything you're doing to just simply stop? I get touched on my back and you can stop me mid sentence everytime, it feels so good sometimes I moan a little. My back, shoulders, sides and neck all give the same result. I lock up, whimper and moan and I can't think.

JEALOUS.

>>7797583
Not really for some reason when I do jiggle them they make me moan but I try to keep it silent since I live with my parents when I first got on e my orgasms were insane but over time they went away I don't do butt stuff either cause of health issues I miss it fapping is a chore now I only do to revive my dick. I didn't know about femgen and was tricked into believing among other things I was mtf by a really horrible man who basically made me a hiki.

>>7797555
I do need to get some balls lol I'm a guy it's pathetic the way I break down like this. I should go get it done while I have the money to do so tho.

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>>7797798
>I do need to get some balls lol I'm a guy it's pathetic the way I break down like this. I should go get it done while I have the money to do so tho.

You forget where we are. Breaking down and being emotional may not be masculine, but you're in this thread, default masculinity is not expected of you or anyone who posts in this thread.

Unless you're a chaser.

But even then they need to get some balls because they don't step forward to actually chase.

>>7797702
Sounds like hypersensitivity I'm jelly sex kinda sucks also my butt is being fucked wish there was a way to make it better.

Never posted in one of these before, but I was just wondering, what are some vitamins or supplements I can take to be girlier? I'm already naturally feminine.
I don't want to go full blown HRT, I just want to be as cute as possible.

>>7797702
huh! i feel like i get what you mean but less extreme. after fapping, my right leg spasms a bit and its hard to control it and then my butt and thighs area gets that weird feeling for a while (i think this is really strange, bcuz i've never done butt stuff ever). i usually sleep after fapping but i think it lasts around 10-15 minutes, and it's only been a recent occurrence but i haven't gotten on hormones yet.

>>7797255
I've been on many different regimens over the years.
I started out with 2mg estrofem and 200mg spiro per day. Then 4mg and 200mg spiro. Then 10mg/week of injected estrogen with the spiro, then I switched to cypro (best idea ever) and have lowered the dose over time to 12.5mg/day with full desired effects. I also switched to 4mg progynova from the injections almost two months ago.
>>7797258
Yeah I do. Hair, clothing, voice and action are good for maintaining that. If I had long hair I'd have more trouble with passing as male, or if I styled it differently, put on a grill voice, etc.
It's a long time I guess, but it went by really fast.

>>7797842
supplements and herbal stuff, at least what i've read, is less reliable and even less tested than HRT, but pueraria mirifica is often used by traps because of its estrogenic properties. i've heard from people here not to buy it because of how poorly regulated the product is.

just vitamin wise, biotin is the hair skin and nails vitamin if you want to take it for faster hair + nail growth, plus better skin. although if you take too much you could get acne, so careful about that, probably don't take big dosages of it

>>7797890
Oh also I often hide my arms because they've gotten really feminized.

>>7797890
Why would you say cypro was such a good idea? I've been on it and spiro, yet I barely notice the difference.

>>7795291
Just get a fucking grip.

>>7797892
Thank you!
are there any drugs I could take that wouldn't make me grow boobs?

>>7797927
How long were you on spiro though?

Also, everyone is different. Spiro didn't agree with me, and it was something that developed/got worse over the course of a couple years.

It did a better job without giving me noticeable side-effects. I got a little more feminization switching to it, and now it's far cheaper than spiro since I only need a quarter of a pill per day. The cost alone is good enough reason to switch.

>>7797236
Don't bind. It's not good for your boobs.

>>7797892
hops, red clover, soy isoflavones, and flax lignans can all help.
Hop pickers in the past noticed the men all got gyno and it messed with womens menstrual cycles

Just buy bulk powders and get a $30 pill capper off amazon if you want to use supplements though. Don't buy pre-capped stuff, it's a waste of money.

>>7797832
Definitely not a chaser lol just someone who wants to be trappier I wonder if ita the hormones I cried so hard the other day cause I hate my face and the way my life ended up but then again I've always been a crybaby. I do like that you all understand kinda the same stuff I'm going through I wanna get through it mabye laser is a step in the right direction.

>>7797927
This cypro gave me a better body but it rekt my sex life.

>>7792520
OMG SO MANY OTHER FEMBOYS ON HRT I LIVE FOR THIS <3 <3 <3 <3

>>7797954
But what if it's lighter compression wear? It would be nice to have some freedom back in regards to my wardrobe. I miss going around in t shirts and not having to constantly cover myself.

>>7798016
That'd be okay probably Just don't do anything too tight because you'll stunt/reverse your boob growth if it's really tight like an FTM i think.

Alternatively just stop worrying, wear a sports bra or something, and be free

>>7798016
>>7798027
But I'm on a similar page as you. I'm trans but not presenting yet but I also need to plan around my boobs lol. Over time I'm just not caring as much though.

>>7794265
this

instead of developing their personalities and hobbies, most twinks/fems are just incredibly shallow and vain people with nothing else to offer but their looks, sadly

>>7797945
Spiro for 6 months, cypro for 1 month. I think I can tell that cypro works better but I still don't really know what difference to expect.

>>7796506
Estradiol would lead to the development of breasts.

>>7796098
Yes. FFS can be done if needed.

Anyone else thinking about genital feminization surgery?

>>7798049
i'm glad it's not a pattern than only i have seen
on some level i do feel for them, but that can only extend so far
i wish them well though

>>7797864
>right leg spasms
Yeah, I get this for both legs and especially the feet it's most prominent. On an orgasm I can't help but curl my toes as well.
Fapping is an absolute hell hole though because if fapping like a guy and looking at content, my eyes will begin shaking all over the place as if I'm having a seizure and my focus is entirely lost because my mind goes blank.

I've never cum through my ass before because everytime I ride a toy or masturbate with a toy, when I get close enough my body just shuts down and I get all the limp-limb feelings and begin melting sort of that all progress of thrusting is just entirely halted, so I never get to finish.

In everyone I question, and keep asking with, the only thing I've learnt over the years is that it sounds like my Sciatic Nerve is triggering with the electric shock feeling in butt/thighs/legs/feet, but I'm still curious for more information on why everything else is a thing.

>>7797838
>hypersensitivity
I don't want to arm chair diagnose though. You can rub my thigh and it feels less than it would my back/side/shoulders though, but other parts still make me squirm without being as sensitive as my back (like palm of my hands) and I imagine hypersensitivity is all over.

>tfw can't even use mint toothpaste without it burning and hurting

>>7798096
fuck no that's some tranny shit

>>7798096
Like getting a vag or reducing penis size to make it cuter?

>>7798139
Don't you think it would be useful though for someone who exclusively bottoms? It's not like it would be a real vagina.

>>7798096
Yeah, my femboy friend just got her genital feminization surgery in celebration of getting her legal name feminization paperwork finalized!~
She's still jealous of her femboy boyfriend who has always had a vagina though, but she'll get over it.

>>7798165
i can almost guarantee the sensation of being fucked in your frankenpussy would NOT feel anywhere near as good as it would if u took it in the ass

>not jerking off while onii-chan pounds your tight boipussy desu

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>>7798190
<<<<

>>7798190
Uh I don't think any of them counts as femboy's at that point lol

>>7798190
>legal name change
Eww, that's tranny territory.

>>7798203
Don't you ever get a phantom vagina feeling when you're turned on?

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>>7798165
>It's not like it would be a real vagina.

>tfw trans
>tfw want vagina so much but ktf too well
>tfw stuck with penis

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>>7798208
>>7798209
>>7798222

>>7798227
tiny girlcocks are way cuter anyway

>>7798208
>>7798209
>>7798222
I was poking fun of people doing tranny things while pretending to be femboys, sillies!

>>7798222
nice trips but no, I don't
I'm on HRT and everything and was genuinely convinced i was a tranny for a long time but like fuck the surgeries and all that shit

i like having a benis
AND getting assfucked

>>7798257
That's basically the way femgen is going anyway. It'll eventually get to the point of "the best boi's have girl names :3"

>>7798272
I hear there were times where not everyone here was on HRT. I wonder what those times were like...

>>7796370
There are some. You can try asking for one in the public section of the Discord.

>>7796402
That looks like the guy from Invader Zim.

>>7798304
Masculinizing forever, with nothing to stop it.

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How do I get a girl voice

>>7798456
you cant
even the best mtf's don't have girl voice

>>7798469
That's not really true. Most trannies just can't be assed to work on theirs.

>>7798473
>>7798469
And if all else fails, get another surgery.

>>7798190
when did femgen get so easy? whatever, which other femboys here are going to get srs

>>7796863
>>7796771
>>7796730
>>7796724
>>7796694
Raloxifene will prevent the adverse effects of effectively having no sex hormones (except for possibly hot flashes), prevent the development of breasts, and may or may not have feminization elsewhere, but likely not much feminization elsewhere. Taking estradiol with raloxifene would either have the estradiol be ineffective, or lead to the development of breasts, in which case just estradiol should had been taken.

>>7797199
If you were to take raloxifene and estradiol, either the estradiol would overpower the raloxifene or the raloxifene would overpower the estradiol, depending upon dosage.

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This place is just a bunch of delusional trannies

Where were you when trannies took over 99% of this board

>>7798613
it's literally always been the case

>>7797199
>>7798602
So, asking your doctor for some estradiol in addition to taking raloxifene would be a bad idea. If you decide to stop taking raloxifene and take estradiol instead, a low dosage might have the adverse effects of low sex hormones.

>>7798613
B-But I'm not a tranny anon!... Or am I? :3

>>7796904
There are male typical and female typical skeletal patterns. Raloxifene should give female typical, but there might be little effect upon the skeleton from either estradiol or raloxifene if the anon is too old.

>>7798654
what age is typically when you stop seeing variation in the bone structure due to hormones? is 18 a good time to start and still have some bone changes from bica and ralox?

>>7798717
what is this bica meme? take spiro dumb dumb

>>7798732
i want to keep my peener working good, and don't want boobs. is bica super less effective than spiro for feminization? i was under the impression the only downside to bica compared to spiro was the cost.

>>7798746
bica gives u boobs dummy
and less effective of an anti-androgen/feminizing hormone

>>7798746
spiro doesn't make u grow boobs at all either rly. that's mostly the estrogen

>>7798770
dang okay thanks for the information <3

>>7798781
HRT isn't guaranteed going to make yr dick stop working especially not if you use it and jerk off regularly. but even if it does interrupt your cock function you can always just stop and your dick will work again

>>7797011
Cross-sex HRT and FFS.

>>7798792
i don't want to have to stop using it to make my dick work tho i guess. and i mostly mean fertility as well as function, and i've heard a lot that HRT for any regular amount of time is going to kill your sperm. i don't want that at all.

i guess the problem i'm facing now is i want a good amount of effective feminization since i'm young and don't want to waste time, but i also don't want boobs (i suppose i can get a binder) and i want to be able to produce sperm.

>>7797397
Again, it does not make sense to take estradiol with raloxifene.

>>7798270
How much benis do you have on pr0?

>>7798843
pr0?
my benis is small and feminine and cute uwu

>>7798858
Aw I thought you were referring to pr0gramm
If your posts get updated there you get "benis"

>>7798831
>>7798631
>>7798556
Thank you very much.

Does this mean people who come into the thread and claim they take estrogen, are either walking a very, very fine line (or have just passed it and are binding their boibewbs down to try be femboy in disguise)? Or that they're just Trans?

>>7798039
Sometimes I'm not caring as much, sometimes I am, it all depends on the situation. It is annoying having limited clothing options because of it.

>>7797190
And, as seen by the past two threads, facial surgery to seem more Asian.

>>7797190
We identify as male, the drugs bicalutamide and raloxifene will decrease our risks of prostate cancer and breast cancer, and I agree that the avatarfagging is cancerous.

>>7797315
Becoming essentially a cis male FtT is the goal of most of the users.

>>7797296
It is never going too far.

>>7799073
FtT what is T here

>>7797311
It does not make sense to use raloxifene with estradiol. If the raloxifene is enough to block the estradiol in the breasts, then it will also block it elsewhere.

>>7797798
So what do you identify as now? What drugs do you take? What is the current status of things?

>>7799073

> no penis
> never in a trillion years remotely close to cismale
> E V E R

someone with a smelly pussy =/= Male, no matter how hard you try

>>7797995
Yes, it makes us look like the cute boys from our yaoi comics.

>>7799120
I have neither pussy nor penis.
Official null.

>>7797627
Social context is needed for those pheromones to have any effect, like that one compound that is found in banana and pears, and results in a different smell depending upon what you think the smell is from, when it is the same exact compound!

>>7797583
That would not seem nice to me. I wish to be treated socially the same.

>>7799134
fuck and i thought i was hardcore for being castrated

are you really nullified? if so, was it a surgeon? arnkoff?

>>7797940
Bicalutamide and raloxifene is the standard femboy combination for preventing further masculinization while avoiding the adverse effects of effectively no sex hormones (except for possibly hot flashes) while not developing breasts. However, feminization is unknown on that combination. Still, it is safe and prevents further masculinization. And some of the things that people associate with being feminized are actually the default state, it is the present of androgens that causes the male typical pattern, and the bicalutamide will.stop that. An example of this is the fat distribution pattern in the abdominal area. There are more details.in the Pastebin linked in the OP.

>>7798049
At least a lot of the users in this thread have an interest in chemistry.

>>7798096
Maybe. Honestly, I would prefer having some type of drug to destroy sex drive and then getting nullification surgery.

>>7798139
Not any more so than cross-sex HRT. And as >>7798165 said, it is useful if you are a bottom and would feel better.

>>7798190
So, an MtT dating a femboy FtT?

>>7798257
Still counts as femboy.

>>7798222
Sometimes.

>>7798539
There is some survey data on that.i think it was around 15% of femboys that have had or plan on having SRS.

>>7798165
>>7798227
It is close enough to a real vagina.

>>7798304
Those were back before Loveisover existed in its modern form, so we do not know.

>>7798272
I mean, that is semi-correct. The best femboys have unisex names.

>>7798456
Voice therapy is useful. There exists surgery, but that only changes pitch, which is not enough.

>>7798478
Again, surgery only changes pitch, which is not enough.

>>7798613
We identify as male, so we are not trans.

>>7792520
I love how the threads go 10x faster when OP posts a cute boy.

>>7798717
I do not know. Maybe.

>>7798770
It is not less effective, it is used for treating prostate cancer patients. If it were ineffective, then those patients would be dead. While estradiol levels will increase due to the bicalutamide, the raloxifene will make that irrelevant.

>>7798828
Bicalutamide with raloxifene would have a low chance of effecting libido and fertility. (Two separate things.)

>>7798732
Bicalutamide has a lower chance of causing adverse side effects. It is essentially just an antiandrogen, as opposed to spironolactone, which binds to other things as well.

>>7798781
See:
>>7799229

>>7798993
They might not develop very large breasts on estradiol. I will not comment on the matter of defining femboyism.

>>7799089
>>7799073
Female to Trans.

>>7799239
Why the fuck does it cost so much? Its ridiculous in the uk £1.50 per a pill? How many do i have to take a day? At that price it should only be 2 pills a week holy fuck!

>>7799120
A femboy FtM still counts as a femboy. They often get SRS.
>>7799134
Now that is a true femboy.

>>7792520
imag ban

shipost

>>7799273
Niche drug with a complex structure.

>>7799223
It is somewhat annoying to keep up.

>>7799252
Fair enough. It is a bit wonky after all.

I've had people call me an average guy, and some a femboy. I have a crystal clear sense of what a femboy is in my mind but it seems to waver with others and we have disagreements.

>>7799319
what does this mean?

>>7799392
You can't post images in this thread any longer, I don't know why.
Too much avatarfagging that mods locked image posting?

>>7799273
Think you're looking in the wrong places buddy, try assetchemist or qhi

>tfw seeing all these mentally ill, internet-gay, chan-goer, asspies who never stfu about wanting a bf in threads/games yet arent even socially adjusted enough to hold a convo not centered around being depressed or shit anime
>tfw seeing all the doormat trannies who realize taking hrt doesn't make you attractive so they give up on being gay too so they can rationalize e-dating other uggo dudes who wish they were women

Its truly pottery. How is it possible for so many people to not be self-aware of how they look and act? People who can't even into healthy relationships but obsess over not being able to should rly just an hero and stop wasting time

>>7799431
> pottery
A-are u saying I am a wizard? :3

>>7799392
You can't post images in this thread any longer, I don't know why.
Too much avatarfagging that mods locked image posting?

>>7799195
Does it taste/smell like a real vagina? Does it get wet like a real vagina?

>>7799392
You can't post images in this thread any longer, I don't know why.
Too much avatarfagging that mods locked image posting?

>>7793935
So ralox actually increases testosterone then huh?
see pic related:

>>7793946
Well Asian noses are differently shaped. I can't explain in words too well but look at them. Also Asian nose bridges tend to be less pronounced, although in modern Asian societies having a more pronounced nose bridge is regarded as beautful. Personally I just want to make the tip rounder and a bit smaller make the bridge more concave.

As to jaw I'm not sure. There might be less of a difference. Anyone know?

>>7799660
cant post fucking pic but w.e

>>7798993
I've passed the point of no return as far as feminine curves go. Everyone sees me as a boy, but I have to be careful of how I move.

>tfw too intelligent to date a femboy

>>7799673
you can just fuck us and dump us...

>>7799660
It increases levels of testosterone but it cannot actually bind to the androgen receptor because the bicalutamide blocks it.

Is there any way to tell if the bicalutamide is actually working? 1 week in here

>>7799786
>>7799786
>>7799786

>>7798823
What did he mean by this?

>>7799245
thanks very much!

>>7793938
what's the difference between Bicalutamide and Finasteride ? from a basic google search they would seem to be very similar and have the same effects right?