Who here would rather live in the closet forever than be a hon?

>>7777156
I did none of those. I chose passing instead

>>7777184
None of you pass

>>7777189
I'm one person friend

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wake me up inside

I CAN'T WAKE UP!

>>7777156
*raises hand*

>>7777156
one day medicine will turn us all into the girls we ought to be.

>>7777156
nah, it's only a fetish
it's only a fetish
it's only a fetish

>>7777228
STOPPPPPPPPPPPP

>>7777156
I looked like garbage as a dude so transitioning into a 3/10 girl wasn't really that big of a stretch.
Plus I get to not have hardcore dysphoria like before and not waste energy repressing.

Im not going to say you should transition though. If you guys are comfy in the closet then more power to you.

>>7778618
i guess you weren't one of those lucky ones that went from ugly guy to decent girl

>>7779263
Honestly,even if my opinion of myself is warped, I wouldn't really want to go to pretty girl In everyday life. The bullshit even 6/10s get would make me lock myself in my house and never leave. I have a ciswoman friend thats honestly a solid 9/10 by normie standards and the amount of harassment she gets makes me scared for her. I totally understand why she stays inside most of the time (aside from health problems)

>>7779364
That "bullshit" is living a life without the responsibilities and duties natal males get. Yes please.

>>7779364
Ehhh, it's pretty bad, but nothing to isolate yourself over. But maybe if I were a 9/10 instead of a 6 or 7/10, it would be even worse.

>>7779449
Life must suck for attractive people.

>>7779364
it so much easier to make yourself less attractive then it is the opposite

>>7779436
>That "bullshit" is living a life without the responsibilities and duties natal males get.

I didnt transition to shirk responsibilities. It I did to relieve mental problems. Responsibilites dont dissapear, they just shift. But you do you, I guess

>Ehhh, it's pretty bad, but nothing to isolate yourself over.
Its not just those problems but the problems huns get at the same time. Its easier to just stay in my cave like a good mountain troll.

>>7777156

I would rather be boymode than a hon, but I would never go back into repression or off HRT.

>>7777156
me

>>7780104
Would you rather have the responsibilities of a male or not?

>>7780193
And what are these male responsibilities?

>>7780614
Think of whatever you had in mind when you said
>Responsibilites dont dissapear, they just shift.

>>7780625
Anything I can think of that would count as male responsibilities (like getting a family, providing for that family, etc) isnt really a male only responsibility since one parent households exist.
Holding doors open? I really cant think of what would be male responsibilities. I was talking in a broad sense before.
I guess impregnating someone?

>>7780683
So what were you talking about when you said responsibilities shift with gender?

>>7780683
A few off the top of my head:
>Be unemotional
>Initiate flirting, dating, making out, sex
>Be the breadwinner. If your SO is also, you don't get to take her role.
>Fix the car, plumbing, computer, etc.

>>7780877
Don't bother. That poster obviously has an agenda. No-one is that obtuse by accident. Probably convincing herself she didn't gain anything from transition.

>>7780925
Makes sense.

>>7780877
>Be unemotional
I didnt know that counted. I thought that was just a thing that happened to guys because of testosterone.
>Initiate flirting, dating, making out, sex
Ok, yeah I forgot that one.
>Be the breadwinner. If your SO is also, you don't get to take her role.
Don't most couples have bath partners working?
>Fix the car, plumbing, computer, etc.
By fixing a car you mean doing by yourself, right? Most people dont just get mechanics or plumbers?
Im thinking of major stuff though so, I guess the smaller stuff? Fixing a computer isnt a responsibility unless its your job. Who doesn't like fixing computers regardless of gender?

>That poster obviously has an agenda. No-one is that obtuse by accident. Probably convincing herself she didn't gain anything from transition.

I gained...bigger tits? I honestly dont really see what I gained aside from people looking at me funny on occasion. And Im not being obtuse. I was just talking in more broad terms. As in you still had responsibilities after you transition.

>>7781043
>And Im not being obtuse. I was just talking in more broad terms. As in you still had responsibilities after you transition.
So, ignoring the actual question...

>>7777156
nah, i just chose to put the effort in to pass

>>7781049
If I was ignoring the question I wouldn't have answered, buddy.

>>7780877
Men have many more social responsibilities than these.

>>7781043
>>Be unemotional
>I didnt know that counted. I thought that was just a thing that happened to guys because of testosterone.
Cis female or early transitioner?

The pressure on guys is insane.

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>>7777156
The reason I decided to wasn't just due to becoming a hon, my life is already shitty, adding the tranny business would only make it worse.

I'm a literal living meme, pic related.

>>7781054
If you need to put effort in passng, then you won't pass.

>>7784542
wrong, if you actually try you can pass. the only people who don't pass are lazy fetishists who don't bother trying

>>7784542
This is such a stupidly wrong post it hurts. Unless you are a true pre-pubertal transitioner like Jazz Jennings, you're going to need to put effort in to pass. Laser, electrolysis, voice training and/or surgery, possibly FFS, making sure your hormone levels are correct, learning makeup (optional), saving money for all of the above, etc.

Transition is hard fucking work, and the post-pubertal transitioners who just sit there popping pills expecting to be turned into a qt in a year are not going to make it. The people who are setting aside time every week for electrolysis, working their ass off to pay for all this shit, practicing makeup and voice, etc are the ones who make it.

>>7784518

You're saying you're a fat nerd, or that fat nerd in particular?

>>7784689
I`m not that fat but I`m probably close to that.
Too old to transition, poor fag, ugly, etc.

In the end I`m pretty much neckbeard tier, I don;'t really care about my appearance anymore.

>>7784489
>Cis female or early transitioner?
I started transitioning at 28.
Im pretty sure I am some form of autistic, though, so I think that would explain my naivete.

>>7780877
More male responsibilities:
>Must defend your partner, physically or verbally.
>Must pay for your children even if you don't have custody.
>Must pay for your ex-partner's lifestyle (even if you weren't married in some places).
>Socially impossible to ask for a share of her finances, but she can ask that of you, making you financially responsible for her.
>Mustn't get aroused by anything but her (no porn, no eying other women) if she demands that. You can't demand she doesn't read 50 Shades.
>Must buy her gifts.
>Can't complain if you ever get worse treatment than a woman does.
>Must yield to women in some situations (queues, going through doors, etc).
>Must keep her happy. If you're unhappy, she gets sympathy.
Trying to think of more that apply outside a relationship.

>>7780877
>>7786649
>Trying to think of more that apply outside a relationship.
this is what i want to know. what are the expectations on men even if they are gay/single?

>>7791591
>Expected to do more strenuous/dangerous jobs at work for no extra pay
>assumed to be the aggressor in any altercation with a woman
>expected to yield benefits to women - seats on a crowded bus or liferaft

>>7784622
>The people who are setting aside time every week for electrolysis, working their ass off to pay for all this shit, practicing makeup and voice, etc are the ones who make it.

Not true, passgen is filled with girls who don't try and they pass in boymode.

>>7784622

>the only people who don't pass are lazy fetishists who don't bother trying

pure delusion. come on guys you cant be serious.

>>7777156
me

>>7791881
>>7786649
>>7784489
>>7780877

this is fucking dumb, you guys don't have do any of this shit. you get one life live it whatever way you want.

it's like some of you would want to be a fucking transsexual than live a dude because it's easier.

what kind of retardedness is this?

>>7791975
So true! You don't have to be unemotional, you can be a social pariah! You don't have to be breadwinner, you can be single! You don't have to pay child support and alimony, you can go to prison! You don't have to do more dangerous jobs because of quotas and pedestal syndrome, you can beg on the street like the rest of the 90% male homeless!

>>7792046

who filled your head with this stuff anon?

>>7792286
Reality. Who filled yours with a victimhood complex?

>>7792307

>victimhood complex

lol i don't know where you pulled this from.

i just think its far more difficult to live as a transsexual than as a man.

>>7792388
So, your response to any of the facts you attacked is...?

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>>7792632

oh you have to be messing with me anon.

>>7792679
Lesbian, right?

>>7791975
>it's like some of you would want to be a fucking transsexual than live a dude because it's easier.
>Being a transexual is easier
Are you out of your goddamn mind?
Where do you people come up with this bullshit from? Who the fuck told you this was easier than being a regular dude?
If I was capable of doing that I wouldn't be fucking trans you troglodyte.