Hardmode: Disphoria inducing pics non-AxP edition

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>>7749026

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>tfw you'll never get to have a normal childhood as a girl and grow up into a young woman

Nothing of value to add to the discussion but OPs picture should be every single trannies profile picture for everything.

>>7749037
Make it stop

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>tfw black(1/2), but an oreo
>always wanted to be pretty and white

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>lacking girl hips

>>7749037
Jesus females are a huge drain, economic wise.

>>7749207
Mfw this actually makes me less dysphoric

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>>7749026
Women come in all shapes and sizes, and i'm none of them

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>tfw manly fucking body, but will she will always be more of a woman than you

>>7749026
By the way you girls are doing a bad job of not inducing AxP dysphoria.

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>>7752397
How so?
Also>

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>tfw can't be qt in winter clothing

>>7752965
Many of these pics do induce my AGP dysphoria.

>>7753322
>AGP
>dysphoria

That's just dysphoria.

>>7752397
>>7753322
the thread's point isn't 'if you're agp none of this can apply to you', it's 'don't post blatantly-agp fetish pics'
>>7749087
>>7749207
>>7751061
>tfw these trigger my ftm dysphoria

>>7753383
>>7753389
I do find them sexual though. Being the resource recipient >>7749037 and growing up into a young woman >>7749048 get me off.

>>7749048
This physically hurts. That said, I'd never have been able to wear qt jap clothes growing up as an American regardless of gender, so whatever.

>>7749048
>tfw I passed as a teenager
>but I didn't escape all the T poisoning, so I was an ugly fucking girl

>>7749026
>>7752397
Literally the things that causes the most dysphoria is physical characteristics, which are most prominent in sexual pictures.

You sound autistic, and fake trans.

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>worse

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>>7754022
>worse

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>>7754024
>better AND worse

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>>7754029
>another better and worse

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>>7754031
>worse again

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>>7754039
>tfw you missed out on doing shit with your buddies that turned into a major hobby of yours as an adult and you would have been hardcore into this

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>>7754046
>justkillme.jpg

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>>7749076
Half black too but for me it's asians

>>7754046
Assuming FTM, don't feel bad, I'm MTF and I was still excluded from gaming with buddies.

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>tfw too masc to express your inner femininity without looking like a fetishist

Not that I'd wear lolita or paint my bedroom walls pink, but still.

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>>7751061
1 year into HRT, and I just look like a fat guy with moobs. HRT and my meds for depression also made it significantly harder to lose weight.

>>7754399
>hrt_progress_by_mtmcomic
>mtmcomic
>mtm comic

>>7754430
> mtm comic
Sorry, I have no idea who that is. I found the image during some random Google image search.
Is it infamous for something, like Assigned Male?

>>7754399
>HRT and my meds for depression also made it significantly harder to lose weight
Fat people ALWAYS have an excuse for being fat.

Guess what? It's called diet and exercise. Stop making excuses.

>>7754450
> Fat people ALWAYS have an excuse for being fat.
I meant in comparison with my attempts pre-HRT.
Obviously, the root of my inability to lose weight stems from my laziness and lack of willpower.

>>7754454
You know, it's just not nearly as satisfying to chastise you for your size when you actualy take responsibility for it. You could at least have done me the courtesy of PRETENDING to blame your genetics or your dad or something.

>>7754449
I've no idea either, I just found 'MtM' amusing.

>>7754251
I feel you on that, Asian would be a step up in terms of being feminine.
much better than being a woman in race considered to be the most masculine

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>>7752965
This whole image is half the reason I want to kill myself.

>>tfw you'll never experience what's it like to bring life into this world, have it be literially a part of you and experience everything that goes with being pregnant and having a baby.

Why do I even live anymore?

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>>7749026
>tfw will never get to do silly girl things with my friends just for the hell of it

Does that fall under AGP too?

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>>7756738
Well I'm black so I'll never have the kinda hair that's fun to play with like literally every other race has. Even hard to manage Caucasian hair is way easier to deal with then the Negroid variety.
>>7756724
ikr? that gives me horrible feels too.

Next up, this trans guy from a few weeks ago.
That fucking female bone structure I would be afraid to be that low in body fat since it would show off everything bad about my body.
And sorry to be that mtf that is jealous of a trans guy's body, i know its shitty, but its just for demonstration purposes. Plus I'm sure he'd fill out on T, which is something a lot of mtf's wont have in the opposite direction :/

>>7753389
Thanks dude, you fucking get it.
>>7754260
I hate lolita fashion thanks to the hons that i encountered when I was seriously looking up how to transition.
If I were cis I probably wouldnt partake anyway, but it would be nice to have the option without looking like a fetishist.

>tfw you will never be a cartoonishly cute girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiEwJTOderQ

>>7760524

To have a pelvis that much wider than my rib cage... I would put some meat on those bones and enter thicc city.

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>>7760524
>Well I'm black so I'll never have the kinda hair that's fun to play with like literally every other race has. Even hard to manage Caucasian hair is way easier to deal with then the Negroid variety.
I have type 3 hair and it's been pretty nice. Girls have told me they're jealous my whole life. It's just taking a really long time to grow out. pic not me tho obviously

If you have type 4, I could see why that'd be a pain in the ass, but at least there's still options to loosen and straighten if you want.

I figure this might trigger some people.

http://imgur.com/gallery/PVQHX

>>7762003

>when you can't tell what subtype of type 3 you are because no one is consistent when categorizing

>>7762003
I'm not even sure what my hair type is. Girls tell me they're jealous but it does not work with my face
>>7762275
This inspires instant envy. Those features with her short hair are just....uugghh

>>7754399
Lol, HRT actually made me underweight and made it even more difficult for me to gain weight than it already was. I had a lot of weight from muscles before HRT but they're all gone now.

>>7749037
Please tell me this isn't true. My opinion of women is low enough already.

>>7772850
Of course it's true, anon, as it should be - women did not evolve to be the providers. This is literally what you'd expect from the gender that is meant to be the one to bear and raise children. Note that this chart is just reflecting who the real tax payers are, and isn't quantifying at all the benefit to society of having kids.

The only problem with the chart is how many of those women AREN'T raising children now (thanks, feminism!) but are just living off the state.

>>7772912
(Citation needed)

>>7772912
>The only problem with the chart is how many of those women AREN'T raising children now (thanks, feminism!) but are just living off the state.
Women demand equal or greater authority to men nowadays. Yet they mostly keep the benefits of not being the providers, as the chart shows.

Men have a minority say in the decision making, yet they are the ones who are responsible for being providers, as the ones paying almost all the tax.

It sounds like women have it both ways.

>>7772912
>as it should be - women did not evolve to be the providers.
men did not evolve to collectively fund state social services for women either.

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>>7772850
>>7749037

women make less than men.
women are usually the caretakers for children in the event of a divorce.

anyone who has had a single mother knows that they work as hard as men, if not harder.

the idea that women don't contribute because they don't make as much money is false.

>>7773012
>contribute the least money
>receive the most money
>so much in fact that they a net negative at every single point in their lives
>while men are net contributors except once into retirement
>have the majority say on who contributes and receives how much

>>7772933
For what? Women's evolutionary sex role? Are you fucking serious?

>>7772950
>>7773008
Yeah, I basically said that. Dunno if you guys are trying to argue or just chime in, but I don't think we fundamentally disagree.

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>>7773034
well if men weren't contributing what would they be doing?
>can't bear children
>can't do housework
>can't cook
>can't clean

my literally do nothing but work and masturbate.
if women were paid for child-rearing and housework they would make much more than men.
but as it is they are unpaid slaves and their contributions aren't counted.

>>7773054
If women's contribution to society is getting pregnant and cooking, why isn't it their husband who subsidizes them for it instead of every other male?

>>7773052
I agree with what you said with this reservation >>7773060

>>7754046
Cis gay, I remember doing some hard core rugby with friends. It was less about the game and more about just being needlessly violent.

Fun as fuck, would do with ftm love interest/close friend.

The good thing about being a guy is you never get too old for sleepovers with weed, booze, vidya and slobbing around like a teenager.

>>7773060
Because their husband is an emotional child who disappears when things get difficult and spends all his time and money fucking whores instead of paying child support.

>>7773238
>instead of paying child support.
I see, the problem you have is that women need to choose guys who will support them instead of being able to have as many kids as they want, live as single mothers, and have men collectively pick up the tab for their kids and themselves.

And the next generation of women will of course complain that modern men are "emotional children"! How did that happen?

>>7773294
If the woman has to carry the child around for nine months, maybe the man should help in other ways, since the child is half his responsibility.

>>7773371
Maybe don't get knocked up by a guy who isn't there and then bitch to the taxpayer about your own bad judgement?

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>>7773590
The bad judgement was marrying the guy who said he would love me until death parted us and who insisted that we have children to carry on his name and then he decided half way through the process that it would be easier to just go fuck some young sluts than to actually raise the children that he insisted we create.
And I haven't had any taxpayer support.
I just work a lot and my kids have had to raise themselves.
Why do you think you know everything?
You're probably just a child.

>>7773371
>If the woman has to carry the child
She doesn't.

>since the child is half his responsibility.
It isn't.

>>7773612
>And I haven't had any taxpayer support.
Then why is your story anything to do with the topic?

>Why do you think you know everything?
>You're probably just a child.
What are you talking about?

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>>7749026
no matter how much you workout you'll never look this good.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW0ZTvRCS1o

>>7749037

How does that work? ow do men only make a positive impact when they're 40?

But the fact that males and females are perfectly in sync before typical child-rearing age, and after typical retirement age, paints a pretty clear picture of the result of the traditional family setup, so it's whatever really.

>>7754039
>seeing this picture, knowing I look one hundred percent like the guy.
>knowing I'll go to my death never experiencing being the girl.

One shot at life and I get this shit, fuuucckkk....

>>7775537
Because that's when they've been working and paying taxes long enough to pay off what the state has spent on them.

They will also be paying off what the state spends on women too of course.

>>7775722

Makes sense. Doesn't look like it really evens out in the long run though.

>>7754454
I don't get it man, it's got to be more effort to shove food down your gullet than to not. Just don't buy chocolate and coke and you'll be set.

To anyone. Is it not super expensive to be fat? When I was trying to gain weight there we're days where I'd eat full multipacks of chocolate bars and still come in 500 calls under, it takes effort to be fat man

>>7773054
> men can't cook, do housework or clean ( same thing?)

Is this bait?

>>7776190
It doesn't. Women are subsidized by men from cradle to grave.

>>7781002

I'm talking about evening out on an overall human scale of people in general contributing more than they take, not a sex scale. Obviously it doesn't even out there, but that's what happens when most people go for the breadwinner/homemaker lifestyle, there's nothing wrong with that.

>>7781018
>there's nothing wrong with one class of people living off the labor of another
That puts you in disagreement with literally all the left and right.

It also says nothing about the injustice of men subsidizing women they aren't even in a relationship with courtesy of the state.

>>7781029
>>there's nothing wrong with one class of people living off the labor of another
A husband and wife are not separate classes, they're two people engaging in a mutually agreeable lifestyle. There's nothing wrong with supporting your spouse.

>men subsidizing women they aren't even in a relationship with
Huh?

>>7781038
Count couples as single entries instead of two people and how do you think the chart will change?

Men will still be subsidizing women without their consent.

>>7781059

Wtf are you talking about?

>>7781061
>Anon uses Wtf
>it's not very effective

>>7781070

Sorry, I thought we were having a discussion, if you just want to gripe at a wall I won't get in your way.

>>7781061
I've explained it twice. What's confusing for you?

>>7781096

How are men subsidising women without their consent?

>>7781085
How is it a discussion? As soon as someone says something that blows you out of the water, you just say "Wtf."

>>7781109

Because I don't understand and require clarification.

>>7781104
Describe what the chart is showing?

>>7781126

Overall populations, as a result of a strong cultural practice of husbands being the consenting financial supporters of their wives.

>>7781208
No, describe what the axis is measuring.

>>7781231


Average cumulative net fiscal impact against age groups.

>>7762003
I'm latina mtf and I have this kind of hair and honestly hate it. It does not work with my face and makes me more masculine most of my family have either wavy or straight hair and I envy it so bad if I had they're straight hair I would have already been presenting pre hrt but nope. It makes me mad when they say they love my hair and wish they could have it when they're able to do different hairstyles with theirs and change it up. It sucks

>>7781238
... I don't think anyone else who has seen >>7749037 has got confused over what it means about men's and women's relative social position.

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>you will never cum inside a woman and make her carry your baby

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>>7785442
>you will never have the ability to naturally produce sperm and high levels of testosterone
>you will never have the chance to be 12 and begin male puberty naturally
Everytime

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>you will never have a natural bulge when you wear boxer briefs

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>>7785442
>>7786258
Every time I read stuff like this from FTMs I just wish SO hard that I could pull my gear out and give it to you guys. Just trade reproductive organs. I even wish I had periods. It's so sad that there are female bodied people who hate their genitals as much as I hate my genitals as a male bodied person. What we want more than anything is not just impossible but it's nonsense! What kind of existence is this?

I still love my life and am thankful for it, but being trans is very humbling in a weird way. No matter what I succeed at, or how hard I work to be healthier, happier, smarter, kinder, it'll never be enough. It won't give me a womb. I try to forget about it so I'm not a mess all the time, but this thread is reminding me how upsetting this idea was to me when I started transitioning. Mission accomplished I guess

>>7786596
>still love my life and am thankful for it, but being trans is very humbling in a weird way. No matter what I succeed at, or how hard I work to be healthier, happier, smarter, kinder, it'll never be enough.
This is an unpleasant feeling. Maybe I'm just less dysphoric but I can mostly forget as long as I'm enjoying myself.

>>7786712
That probably reads a lot more distressed than I meant it to. I'm actually a rather positive person, and after 5 years on HRT I almost never get dysphoria anymore, and when I do it's very mild. I kinda like being trans and having experienced what I have, versus just being born a cis woman. It's just so peculiar what we all go through

>>7786804
That's good to hear!

>I kinda like being trans and having experienced what I have, versus just being born a cis woman.
How come? I'm glad of who I am and it's my male life in part that made me that way. If I'd been born a cis girl I'd be a different person, so I can't even talk about "myself" having been cis female. I wouldn't say I "like" being trans though. I'd like to be a cis girl without losing my past that's made me into me.

>>7786972
>How come?
I dunno, it's just neat. I have experience living as both a boy and a girl, being in male spaces and female spaces, living in a male body and then a... not-entirely-male body. Knowing first-hand what hormones do and don't affect in your body. It's all been educational and has allowed me to appreciate things that I feel many cis people take for granted.

Otoh, I'd be alright with just erasing myself if it meant I got a do-over as a girl, or even just a cis male. Perhaps my family wouldn't have fallen apart like it did without my gender dysphoria complicating everything.Who really knows. Honestly that's the thing I struggle with the most in my life. Forget the GID; having a dead mom and a dad that disowned me is a lot more difficult for me to cope with, especially when I'm around people who talk about their functional relationship with their family, or when holidays roll around and nobody calls me or cares whether I come home for them or not. So it goes

>>7787100
What do you appreciate that cis people take for grants thanks to your life as a boy and a girl?

It's sad that you'd be ok erasing yourself. How different do you think your life and your experiences would be a a girl or cis male?

How did your dysphoria maybe contribute to what happened to your family?

>>7749026
Ok, here's one for you guys.
You take your hormones, and you might even start at/after 18, but your body didn't do this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/casualiama/comments/298xmt/iama_guy_that_ended_up_spontaneously_developing/

>>7787455
She was obviously destined to become a girl. Look at those hips. Why can't this have happened to me?

>>7787455

Those hips look wider than even someone on HRT since 18 could expect, at least from that angle. That's interesting.

holy fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk LIFE ISNT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I WANNA FUCKING DIEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM AN EARLY TRANS MTF BUT ILL NEVER BE REAL REEEEEEEEEEEEEew;oirjuhpwoeurhwqe;'orkcwe end my life;lkujhal;skjfnas

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I

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>>7787576
WANT

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>>7787581
TO

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>>7787585
DIE

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>>7787588
PASSING

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>>7787589
IS NOT

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>>7787591
ENOUGH

>>7787576
>>7787581
>>7787585
>>7787594
Uhh this is the NON-agp thread

>>7785394

Then explain it to me, nigga, I didn't pay attention in high school.

>>7787581
>>7787585
AGP triggered.

>>7787975
>>7785394

Like genuinely, I answered your questions thinking you were holding my hand through this shit to lead me to some conclusion. I didn't wanna dictate for you to just explain it outright, I was trying to be polite.

For the love of god, explain to me how that graph doesn't just demonstrate the result of an overall culture of individual men consenting to support their spouses, and how it somehow equates to men carrying random ass women through life without consent to, because I don't fucking get it, and the test is tomorrow!

>relative social position.
If you're just talking about the fact that we even HAVE a culture of men supporting their wives financially, then of course I understand that, but that doesn't translate to random ass men being leeched off by random ass women. If men chose to support their wives financially, what do you think's gonna happen?

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>>7749026
Look at these dudes chilling and skating. Dudes being bros with their bros made me dysphoric af years ago. I've since transitioned.

>>7749087
>tfw rounded diamond
I need to eat less cheetos

>>7749212
But they provide us with childs and the process for make childs

>>7752965
Aww bb

>>7753471
It's Caraposter

>>7754399
Have you heard the good news of wellbutrin/buproprion?

>>7762275
>http://imgur.com/gallery/PVQHX
She looks dope

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>>7773294

>>7788028
god this, watching the deer hunter was so painful for me in part because of the camaraderie between the three leads

>>7753471
Understandable, but thats what makes this version hard mode.

>>7787622 is right. That girl doesn't get the point of the thread.

>>7788041
I'm not Caraposter, have you not noticed the lack of autistic rants? lol

>>7788030

I would be fine with diamond or rounded diamond.

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idk why, but this one gets me everytime.
I think it's her tiny, appropriately sized feet.