PSA: Most people want LGB to be a seperate movement from T

>>7698832
As a tranny myself, I can see why. The T aspect needs more of a focus on bathroom laws, transitioning help, etc. Whereas the LGB aspect is mostly focused on marriage rights and all that.
I'm straight otherwise, so as long as I can get my sex changed on my birth certificate, marriage laws don't concern me. Likewise, your average fag doesn't care about accessibility to hormones.

Instead of dropping T we should concentrate on dropping QIAAP++.

>>7698954
>AAP
fucking aap trender ftms

>>7698832
I agree. Gender identity disorder or gender dysphoria is more of a medical problem than a civil rights issue. It needs to be solved with better healthcare, not feminist rhetoric and gender revolutions.

>>7698954
lemme tell you a secret
nobody takes anything past the T seriously

>>7698984
lemme tell you a secret
nobody takes anything past the B seriously

Just a bunch of men in a dress

it's all bullshit anyway
none of you are political activists, that's all the banding together is for

>>7698832
It's not the T that needs dropping. Trans people suffer exactly the same stigma against feminine males as gay men do. It should be self-evident that this is a common fight.

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>>7698832
>T should be removed from LGBT
>Asked by Amazingfeminist1213

Top fucking kek. Don't try to tell me TERFs aren't real. That's what happen when "feminists" invade LGBT spaces.

>>7699001
And the FtTs?

>>7698980
This. The only people who think gender is a civil/social rights issue are Tumblrinas.

>>7699022
Feminine males is not an LGB rights issue.

>>7699052
>flamboyant gays getting call fags and beaten up is nothing to do with gay rights
Confirmed for /pol/ D&C.

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>>7698832
By the way these "debates" are worthless.

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>>7698832
Reminder the string search came up positive. This guy is the same ban evading child porn slammer who's been raiding the board.


He's evaded yet another recent ban, Sage and report, don't let the evader escape

If we could go 1,000 years ahead in time to a hypothetical future where medical sex change was 100% effective and really made you into a normal member of the opposite sex capable of reproducing, EVERY homosexual would undergo that treatment. The only ones who wouldn't would be the ultra perverse and sexually ill fringe like the people in that house of air video.
T should not be dropped, it should be prioritized over the others and made the face of the LGBT movement.

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>>7699123
>We now think of /pol/ the way /pol/ thinks of Jews
it's a weird feel

>>7699143
Do you really think there is a single person on 4chan who hates your tranny ass?

>>7699182
Except in this case it's real, not a feel.

>>7699180
2/10, you are a tryhard

Where is this from?

>>7699206
Maybe they were just pointing out that straight guys can be highly effeminate "metrosexuals".

>>7699180
>heterosexual men/women are interchangeable with lesbians/gay men

No.

>>7699204
The fact there's dozens of threads just like this one in the archive in the last month and they got salted for being an evader's shit so yes.

It's raids from one kid fucking freak and a handful of shills he has. And the mods always verify its him and salt.

>>7699208
why would any male be a faggot when they could be a heterosexual woman? There are zero advantages.

>>7699263
>>7699180
Fyi the femboys would probably go ahead and physically become girls but keep calling themselves boys and living as ones or their idea of boys at least

>>7699180
>a hypothetical future where medical sex change was 100% effective and really made you into a normal member of the opposite sex capable of reproducing, EVERY homosexual would undergo that treatment.
no they wouldn't. some would like being men, just like some heterosexuals would be women.

i'm not trutrans so what's the difference between me and one of the homosexuals who would switch?

>>7699296
It's the same as the difference between you and Femgen

>>7699308
what is that difference? don't many of them take hrt and go trans anyway?

>muh 32 genders
>omg how dare you call pregnant people "expectant mothers", what about MEEEEE
>make this womens' march more INCLUSIVE of MEEEEE
>it's possible to be a woman without a vagina
>gay people more than likely just want to chop their cocks off, come join us! We're so happy over here!

Truly oven-worthy creatures

Women particularly hate them

>>7699263
>zero advantages
Well there's my cock for one thing.

You know vaginas are disgusting right? Even straight men realize this.

>>7699329
>Women particularly hate them
women a shit

>>7699336
>Even straight men realize this.
what

>>7699263
I bet you think most gay men only like to bottom, don't you

>>7699357
Only like one fifth of all vaginas are actually good looking, too many of them are malformed sacks of skins and are just gross

It's harder to fuck up with cocks

>>7699370
>It's harder to fuck up with cocks
Yet American doctors manage anyway.

>>7699370
>It's harder to fuck up with cocks
And yet Americans manage that without fail. Seriously, mutilating infants?

>>7699336
what about your cock?
If you like to top you can just top a masculine woman who shaves her head, lifts weights and doesn't shave her legs. Still female so it's a socially acceptable relationship and you can have a family eventually. If a woman was sufficiently masculine wouldn't you rather put your cock in a clean vagina than an asshole?
If you like to bottom you can become female and have a vagina. It's disgusting maybe, but are you going to tell me asking a dude to fuck your asshole is less disgusting? You can still be as masculine as you want since women have the freedom to be masculine in society. And you could legally marry a man and have a family with him and not make your parents cry every time they think of you. Women can have multiple orgasms so it's more pleasure than stroking your cock while you get assfucked.
You just want to suck dick? Women get 20x more access to dick so being a woman would be way better for you.
You just want to get your dick sucked by a masculine person? Again just get a woman with a shaved head who doesn't bathe or something.

>>7699409
>wouldn't you rather put your cock in a clean vagina than an asshole?
So you admit gays wouldn't all become women. Some would just top women.

>>7699409
>If you like to top you can just top a masculine woman who shaves her head, lifts weights and doesn't shave her legs. Still female so it's a socially acceptable relationship and you can have a family eventually. If a woman was sufficiently masculine wouldn't you rather put your cock in a clean vagina than an asshole?
>You just want to get your dick sucked by a masculine person? Again just get a woman with a shaved head who doesn't bathe or something.
Bulldykes are disgusting and that sounds horrible.
Fuck off TERF

>>7698832
I'm ok with that.
I would love to separate myself from all the tumblr specialsnowflakepandemigendersexualqueerfurry people since I just want to be an average female living an average female life.

>>7699430
How does it sound horrible? Literally what is the difference?
If you're mostly a top, you take a gay bottom and just change his sex, he still stays as masculine as he wants to be, he lifts weights, shaves his head, grunts, wears jock straps and farts okay whatever you love just now that person has a vagina and a slightly smaller frame, what would be the difference?
>oh man I just CANNOT get my dick sucked unless I feel beard hairs against my dick guys
>ugh fucking a hairy bear was so nice but fucking this hairy masculine weightlifter woman with a shaved I just cannot stand it, I just have to see the dick flopping around to get off

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Let's do this, legbutts
http://www.strawpoll.me/12270068/r

>>7698832
By how many votes? 20? If you want LGBT representative vote it has to be have hell of a lot votes than that.

>>7699506
>twenty votes
>polls is 76/24
>she thinks you can get to 4 and 6 in increments of 5

>>7699391
>>7699396
>Americandicksmind
You're right tho.

>>7699494
So you're saying you'd sex change nothing EXCEPT for the genitals?

>>7699494
>oh man I just CANNOT get my dick sucked unless I feel beard hairs against my dick guys
you say this as though it is false

>>7699494
I understand what you're saying but tops like to play with their partners' cock too

Maybe you can't understand because you're a disgusting roastie, but a penis is pretty much the alpha and omega of being a man. If my partner had a vagina they wouldn't be a man and it wouldn't be right, that's just how it is

>>7699552
So your sexuality isn't attraction to males as such, but to the concept of "a man"?

>>7699578
Yes, and don't start deeconstructing it or some shit because it's not going to work.

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>>7699494
This is disgusting, i like androgyny and elegance, that has none.

>>7699584
I'm not that anon, just a tranny. Your post got my interest because it kind of separates gender and sexuality from the physical. Obviously that's something I dream about, a man who can see me as "a woman" despite my body.

>>7699503
I feel so conflicted. What is the main political affiliation among trannies?

>>7699615
The difference is, and I mean no offence to you and I'm just being blunt, that the concept of either men or women isn't something that I think can be taught or even "slipped into". It relies on accumulated formative experience that starts from the moment you're born. Trying to switch over so late in the game would produce, no matter how hard you tried, a facsimile of the real thing. I think you misread my post if you thought that I was separating gender or sexuality from physicality, on the contrary, the fact that my partner has a functioning penis and it's a natural thing is a wonderful thing and cannot ever be replicated, and it's part of what makes him him, for me.

But this is all subjective I guess, that's just my opinion, having been with both men and women, but preferring men.

>>7699679
You were separating part of physicality from gender and sexuality. Someone else would just need to do the same thing in a different way to see me as a woman despite my body.

Someone the other way around, gay for bodies but happy for his partner to act and dress like a woman would work too.

No offence taken. I don't want the full role of a woman really, I just want to be free to act how I like and I think that's close enough to women that it would be more socially acceptable to be one.