Desire to transition goes away when I'm aroused

>>7654890

>I'm very confused by my gender identity. I absolutely hate my secondary sexual characteristics, in particular my body hair, which I've been disgusted by since puberty. I idealised femininity as a young teenager, wishing I could be smooth and slight (though not necessarily female - i rarely have memories of wanting a vagina, or even necessarily breasts). I'm disgusted by the masculine aspects of my face, and i'm filled with overwhelming jealousy when I see feminine cis and trans women.

You really really REALLY sound like a trans girl in that paragraph anon.

>As I am now, I feel like woman on average find me attractive, and I know this is something that would change if I transitioned.

Not necessarily. Lesbians are a thing.

>However, this tends to go away when I'm sexually aroused. I think this is tied to me mostly mostly being attracted to woman (and some super feminine men and trans men).

Dunno, could be that you just have a lot of T in your body. This could just be a red herring.

>>7654890
Here's a short list of things to try:

Makeup
Dresses
Cute girl clothes
Tucking
Have people call you by female pronouns
What is your girl name?

If you see a girl in the mirror and get extremely happy and start crying like I did, you will have your answer.

>>7654890
>However, this tends to go away when I'm sexually aroused. I think this is tied to me mostly mostly being attracted to woman
This could change if you transition. A lot of this is just testosterone. Are you sure you are being fully honest with yourself about your sexuality?

>I've heard a varying definition of AGP, which argues the condition is characterised by men who idealise the feminine form, and thus attempt to become their ideal notion of femininity.
I'm inclined to say yes, that's AGP from your descriptions of strictly desiring or fantasizing features instead of seeing yourself in society as female. Nonetheless, there are types of trans people, and AGP people also sometimes need to transition to feel comfortable throughout their entire life.

What is strikingly absent from your post is any mention of socializing yourself as a woman in greater society. This is why you get the young transitioner = "True" trans standard. If someone is conscious of how they see themselves aging into adulthood during the turmoil of puberty, with memories of ideals of "who I'll become" from early childhood, it makes sense that these people jump right into transition when their body is changing away from their preconceived future.

>when I masturbate all my feelings of wishing to be feminine go away, and are even inverted to disgust.
Which is also common with sexually based ideals of transition; Your drive to change or become something else goes away as expected, because it's erotic in its basis. Meanwhile, a classic trans person is seeking to enter into their idealized self, and their role in society.

I don't understand AGP from a personal perspective, but I do know that plenty need to transition. Just think about it realistically. You aren't going to transform. This isn't a fantasy porn caption. At best, you will be closer to your ideal body. If all that means to you is
>smooth skin & femininity
then you can still take HRT and basically live as a eunuch male

>>7655106
>Which is also common with sexually based ideals of transition; Your drive to change or become something else goes away as expected, because it's erotic in its basis. Meanwhile, a classic trans person is seeking to enter into their idealized self, and their role in society.

I'm a little unclear on this point. If the desire for transition it primarily erotic, then why would I lose interest in transitioning/feel disgust at said interest during moments of heightened sexual desire and fantasy, such as masturbation?

>>7655158
because then it is satiated. Afterwards your subconscious eventually starts fantasizing again and you start to feel horny, hon. I'm sure you go through this cycle daily

come on now

>>7655106
>>7655448
This is not AGP since AGPs are aroused by the thought of being women and/or womanly while OP does the polar opposite.
t. agp

>>7654890
I used to be like you OP, but eventually i started imagining being a women and being fucked by a man when i masturbated

I think the disgust with masculinity was mearly an extenuation of my disphoria. Since starting hormones i have become more comfortable in my body as it becomes soft and squishy, and the thought of being dominated by a man and being treated like a women sexually has become a fuckload more apealing hnnggg

Anyway OP even if you dont like men, you should get on hormones and see how it makes you feel about your body, you should be able to tell very quickly its what you want once estrogen enters your system

>in particular my body hair
This means jack shit because women have body hair too.

Grow up and stop basing ideas about femininity on porn, AGPbruh.

>>7657693
I would have thought psychological discomfort with the onset of secondary sexual characteristics during puberty would be a major sign of dysphoria

>>7657693
>Calling someone who is specifically disgusted with being feminine while masturbating AGP
lol

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>>7657748
If OP was TruTrans(tm) he'd be most disgusted by his shoulders or the lack of his hips or FACIAL hair but he lists only body hair, a feature that is 1) hidden 2) easily removable (as opposed to facial hair which leaves beard shadow making a TruTrans really dysphoric).

OP is just a lad who likes to have a shameful wank in his wife's panties, trust me.

>>7657817
OP here, facial stubbly is actually one of the things that bothers me most...

I feel exactly like that OP and I'm also stuck in a rut.

>>7654890
>I idealised femininity as a young teenager, wishing I could be smooth and slight (though not necessarily female

I relate with this a lot, I wanted be/feel feminine as young teenager/preteen. However, actually being female (not just feminine) never crossed my mind until my late teens. I don't have much dysphoria and it goes away after masturbation. However, I have no facial hair at 21 and feminine hips (maybe low T?) and I feel like I'd feel worse had I been a more ordinary male. Becoming masculine in the future makes me sick. I don't know what to make of this either.