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Mercury vs Shakira edition

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• buddi
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

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>>7623702
1 gp final offer!!
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No chasers beyond this point.
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>>7623717
one head pat
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>>7623710
LMAO
I just want to be left alone ;----;
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Buying nim for 1 cheek kiss
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>>7623720
I'll behave myself, I promise
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Reposting
>>7623692
You're clinging to some outdated and nonsensical essentialist beliefs that are significantly more socially constructed that I bet you're willing to believe (IE, A spook) and I have a feeling that a big part of the reason you're unable to accept yourself as a woman has to do with your political ideology. Let it go, buddy, even your biological data is cherrypicked: why do chromosomes matter more than hormone levels, for example?
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>>7623710
Im rooting for you, Mercury.

>>7623602
Nice argument.
Id accept a genuine apology bird, I do miss you, but I can't have a friend who isn't there for me.

>>7623624
No that's a classic example of bird twisting a story, I never threatened him. I told him if he didnt say something to Chara Id stop being his friend, unfortunately this is what happened.

>>7623652
On hive and imperial worlds- Gender reassignment pre-utero probably, Imperium tech is silly advanced.

On most other worlds, the same way we deal with it, albeit they have access to actual gender swapping surgeries.

On feral and fuedal worlds they probably kill you for being weak.

On Slaaneshi Daemon worlds though, being trans is the norm.

>>7623659
Not according to Birdie.
He used to say often in thread that he found me to be the prettiest- that's just his preference though.
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pic related is an artist's impression of the current mood of the thread
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>>7623724
>1 head pat
May as well just give it away for free then
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these threads have been ridiculously drama-heavy lately
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>>7623726
Shakira is a creep
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>>7623711
Oh i like that name, can I be her friend too? :o
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>biologically male
>present as female
>live as female
>consider myself female
>accept the fact that biologically I am a male and not a cis female even though I have some things about me cis males don't
>this fact does not bother me or my identity nor impact me on a day to day basis
>for some reason some trannies cannot accept the fact that we were born male and will die male even though we live as females

the why or how never bothered me to only thing that matters is day to day life. all that other stuff is arguing schematics and feels
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>>7623733
i won't
ehehehe
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>>7623694 (switch anon)
it can't be that bad, can it? how late are you into transition
really sorry for hitting a nerve :/
HRT isn't that expensive, though, like even ordering from inhouse (which is expensive AF) a few months of hormones is only 200$
you could probably have both?

>>7623701
yeah, fair point
but at least among trans friendships, i've been forgived a lot by my friends for stuff i've done during mood swings (which was really generous, considering how bad my mood swings can be), and i've tried to forgive other people in turn

>>7623702 (mercury)
i have him filtered but people are actually agreeing with him
so
yeah i should probably stop, sorry
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when is medical science going to advance enough to make me a catgirl?
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>>7623692
Ok, I think i'm not going to argue this point with you ever again, it's so fucking obvious that you have issues but are too scared to sort them out so you prefer hurting yourself and the people around you with stuff like that.


>>7623708
it literally is though, it's a widely accepted fact by now that transgenderism has biological roots
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>>7623748
s-she's pretty shy
so i uh
i don't think you'll ever get to meet her
sorry

i'll tell her you said that about her name, though
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>>7623726
>Starts arguments with me
>Wants to be left alone
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>>7623742
so has irl so it makes sense I guess
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>>7623754
this desu
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is anyone here my buddi or..?
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>>7623712
>even technically speaking that's incorrect
Except it's not. Merriam-Webster defines "man" as "an adult male human". MtF trangenders are male, so adult MtF transgenders are men.

>>7623719
>>7623734
Essentialism is pretty useful though. I know that Marx didn't like it and so you don't, but it's a good way of classifying things.
As to why chromosomes matter more than hormone levels; it's easy to change hormone levels while chromosomes are permanent. Saying hormone levels are what counts is saying everyone is essentially genderfluid, since they could possibly change them.

>>7623755
>getting hurt over this
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>>7623762
Buddi cuddies
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Is America great again now?
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>>7623756
Aww, but thank you~
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>tfw listening to rap music makes me want to be an /fa/ fuccgirl
help


>>7623762
i am

yaeoo
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>>7623737
TH-THANKS MOAP
Looks like I need to use a spirit bomb, give me ur energy ;---;
>>7623744
I know ;---;
>>7623754
Delete this
>>7623753
Yeah filtering is just simpler lol
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>>7623770
it was never great desu
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>>7623752
I don't even find any trips in this thread attractive
they're just fun to talk to
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>>7623762
WE #\buddi\ NAO
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>>7623762
I'll be your friend if you be mine
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>>7623762
buddi
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>>7623770
مرگ بر آمریکا
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>>7623774
Instagram is the best way to promote pussy
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>>7623767
You should just go back to /pol/ honestly
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>>7623778
misspelled always desu
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>>7623762
my stats aren't high enough for me to be your buddi

and i'm still in full bronze too
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entertain me /mtfg/
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>>7623762
yaeoo
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I wish Snick would get over Beta Chaser so we can stop pretending to like him.
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>>7623789
persian writing is so pretty shame that that region has been mostly only getting fucked in the past 100 years
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>>7623790
wait
i don't mean a slut
i meant the grill equivalent of a fuccboy/hypebeast

i already have a gosha rubchinskiy tshirt i ironically wear sometimes
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>>7623779
i'd fugg at least 25% of them, but i come here mostly for the shitposting too
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>>7623798
Are you not entertained?
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>>7623800
I like beta chaser
I think he's cute and his voice is nice
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>>7623755
i used to believe that i would always just be a boy pretending but i was never as bad as she was
i don't think it's -fair- to judge her since she's only like, two to three weeks into transition?

though yeah, the /pol/ only aggravates it

>>7623777
i wish the trans anons would just trip so that i could ignore anons altogether
like ffs this is a circlejerk, what's the point of anonposting? like, okay, if you need advice, that's fine, but for carrying on conversations with girls it's garboooo
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Is there a cut off age for transitioning or is a case by case basis
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>ywn tucc a nim
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>>7623812
ill beta chase you bby
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>>7623815
it's to broad to be given a universal number
but the problem with dysmorphia is that you can't judge yourself fairly
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>>7623750
>im happy being a boy
good to know
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What's the prettiest music /mtfg/?
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Some girl asked if anyone here makes music, I said Mercury plays the piano, that's all I said, that's all and she sperged. Jfc she's autistic.
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I think it's kind of disconcerting that people can just use transition as an excuse for their bad behavior.
I get we are all struggling mentally and with mood swings.
I'm a forgiving person, I won't hold it against you similarly to how I wouldn't hold it against a drunk person for acting stupid the night prior.
At some point however you have to take responsibility for yourself.
I was an early transtioner once, I never acted as bad as some of you people. Granted I think I am alittle more fortunate then some of you so it's understandable.
Still people like Eva, bless her, struggles a lot and isn't the most stable, but she is still the nicest person I know. Neptune struggles with borderline personality disorder but still makes an attempt to be a kind person.
It's possible for a person to be, pardon my French, a bitch and trans at the same time. They can be exclusive traits. To simply use your condition as a crutch while chastising others for acting similarly isn't just hypocritical, it keeps you from progressing as a person.
This very edition is named after two trips who absolute despise and abuse each other, but if a cis person get's into a debate and a few insults are levied he is a monster.
I thought this general was suppose to be full of alt-righters who don't need safe spaces.
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>>7623786
>>7623797
new buddi's <333
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>>7623815
Depends entirely on the specifics of the person, but younger is preferable so if you're considering transitioning 'now' is probably a good time to start.
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>>7623762

Huggu for buddi nim ~uwu
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>have to read bourdieu again for tuesday
>have been reading this frog bastard for years now
when will sociology free itself from all these baguette meme philosophers
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>>7623823
no part of that post said that. good strawman m8
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>>7623814
There's a lot of positives to anon posting, people can take your post for what it is instead of being biased because of the name.
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>>7623814
I tried adopting a trip and the thread turned very hostile on me, so I just went back to anon posting
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>>7623815
>dysphoria
HRT is there to let you be what you want to be
the older you get, the worse your results will be
but there's still plenty of hope if you're under 30
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>>7623791
pic
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>>7623825
Zheanne is a composer. As well as Ethan
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>>7623824
You know what I'm gonna say.
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>>7623815
-9 months, after that you're pretty much screwed
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>>7623826
hugg snick
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>recorded delivery post
>adds roughly 5 euro
what did QHI mean by this
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>>7623814
>like ffs this is a circlejerk, what's the point of anonposting?
i don't mean to scare you, but i mean, this is an anonymous imageboard
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>>7623815
case by case unless you are like 50+
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>>7623824
folk is very pretty
>>7623815
you can be in yours 30s and have nice genetics to pass
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>>7623838
:(
there can be a lot of hostility from drama trips
but there's a lot of p nice girls too

>>7623835
yeah, but you can't form lasting relationships
pure anon threads are just meaningless arguments that nobody benefits from
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>>7623846
track and trace I assume
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>>7623834
>accept the fact that im biologically male
>doesn't bother me
nice
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>>7623826
nice textwall
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>>7623824
ian william craig

stars of the lid

that kind of stuff
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Wait why do,shakira and Mercury hate each other
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>>7623845
thanks nim
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>>7623840
I wasn't making an argument, I was telling you to fuck off
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>>7623842
Stop lmao, what is wrong with you?
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>>7623853
>pure anon threads are just meaningless arguments
I disagree, I like having discussions, and there's a lot of anonymous posts that changed my perspective.
It doesn't have to be about forming relationships.
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>>7623826
Thanks for taking the time to write this.
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>>7623858
Some black girl rivalry idk
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>>7623859
we should talk more!
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>>7623862
Yes and I said that wasn't an argument and thus a useless post in a discussion.
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>>7623870
I-I'll try I guess.
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>>7623858
Shakira is a creep who hates Mercury but also wants to marry her, Mercury just wants Shakira to stop talking about her constantly.
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>>7623873
^>^
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>>7623814
whatever, i'm not going to bother with this shit anymore
everyone was insecure with their identities at some point but anna just takes it to autistic levels and im afraid she'll have issues like Phie does for the rest of her life.
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>>7623841
I think Zhe said she was done coming here. Idk if she was being serious though. She sad posted then didn't reply to me.
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>>7623870
>>7623873

you two trying to hold a conversation together would be the funniest thing ive ever seen
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>>7623858
because shakira has an obsession with mercury and mercury doesn't really like shakira
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>>7623853
>pure anon threads are just meaningless arguments that nobody benefits from
It's more the opposite. Trip drama occurs every day and goes in cycles, often blocking conversations about other things because people are too hung up over who said what to whom. You have the same arguments every day with the same people, then they fizzle out for a bit and come back again. Occasionally someone will leave or someone else will join in.
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>>7623852
What artists?
>>7623842
Shakira? if not what?
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>>7623882
are you implying i don't have good conservation all skills!?!?!?
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>>7623877
i mean, yeah, i understand
/pol/ views are a legitimate problem a lot of transgirls here seem to refuse to let go of

>>7623866
i guess
i dunno, it depends on what you get out of it?
i'm here mostly for relationships
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>>7623826
Its 4chan just drop the trip and bitch it up.
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>>7623883
>oryx creepily obsesses over shakira
>shakira creepily obsesses over mercury
POTTERY
O
T
T
E
R
Y
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>>7623889
>depends on what you get out of it?
>i'm here mostly for relationships
I guess this is the difference. Though I don't think 4chan is a good place to do that.
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I'm down with thread for tonight
do svidanya

atleast I am trans, so I guess it's ok for me to be a bitch teehee~
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>>7623889
it's not even /pol/ views
i think you can be mentally fine and have /pol/ views, you'd just be wrong or missguided.
I'm talking more about self-hate issues.
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>>7623891
>shakira obsessively says oryx is stalking her
>shakira creepily obsesses over mercury

fixed
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>>7623897
I don't hate myself I am amazing wtf
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praise me
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>>7623900
clearly, yes
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here's a rare sass for that anon collecting them
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>>7623798

Save me from this madness drakey :3

Too much drama today :(
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>>7623897
>i think you can be mentally fine and have /pol/ views, you'd just be wrong or missguided.
I guess you're one of those "I'm right, and the people who don't agree with me just don't know what's best for them" kinda people
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>>7623900
why even bother arguing with them
theyre basically mindless drones when it comes to politics
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The Young Pope has such nice cinematography
I have tons of screenshots from it saved

>>7623904
Yeah how comes I'd apparently hate myself?
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>>7623902
that's me after 2 years of hrt.
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>>7623777
>777
THE GOD OF THE HEBREW HAS FAVORED YOU, YOUR VICTORY IS ALL BUT ASSURED!
I give you my energy~
Aave us from the roodypoo hon! You're our only hope!

>>7623798
How would you like me to entertain you, Drake?

>>7623877
I feel bad for Phie, but she tried to tell me I'm a man so fuck her.
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Tfw in shitcago
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>>7623884
not really
with anonymous posting you're never sure -who- is posting
conversations are easily repeated because you have no idea who you're talking to
with trips i can build relationships with people and that often leads to adding them off-site?

>>7623894
yeah, but there's good girls here and i don't know where else to go

>>7623826
i mean yeah, but how much responsibility can you take?
trans women are better off because at least we can sympathize with the fact that most of us have severe mental issues, and that HRT aggravates them.

cis men don't belong here by nature
that's the difference tbqh
>I thought this general was suppose to be full of alt-righters who don't need safe spaces.
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>>7623808

ayye

i wish more transgirls embraced the fuccboi aesthetic
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>>7623826
I think I agree with what you are saying here but I would still rather not have cis people coming here. like I don't think drunk chaser is really an issue so the hate is misguided but most of the other cis people who come here just want to troll and find vulnerable people to fuck
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>>7623913
male to eldrich general
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>>7623865
What? I was gonna say jazz, what'w rong with that
>>7623875
>>7623858
I used to have a crush on her, she starts disliking me because I don't like Islam, She ignores me for a while then says she's gonna sudoku, I still like her so try to talk her out of it, she spergs out at me for trying to help (???), I ignore her then she starts talking to me ITT again, things are civil for a while, I still kinda like her. Then she randomly bitches at me again, disappears, Edie and Rachel says she killed herself, I say it's bullshit and she's still here anon attacking me, they sperg at me calling me insensitive. She finally gets exposed as faking it, I was right the whole time, she comes back and is even more of an asshole to me, I don't like her anymore. All this because I said that I didn't feel comfortable girlmoding in an area with a lot of Muslims.
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>>7623885
i have pleb taste when it comes to folk
not very pretty just angsty dumb stuff
but i like stuff by the microphones, really nice to fall asleep to
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>>7623915
It's a nice city from what I remember visiting back fifteen years or so.
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>>7623918
>not really
Even a few weeks in this general should give you some idea of how things go. Do you not visit any generals outside of mtfg?
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>>7623927
^.^ <33
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>>7623926
The Microphones are like my favorite band. What other bands do you like?
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>>7623869
>rivalry
Lmao
>>7623883
>>7623875
See for a while I wondered if I was crazy or something; it's comforting to know that other people can see it too
>>7623899
>>7623891
Oh what?
Fucking Kek
God is looking out for me after all
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>>7623927
It's meh
I'm only here to visit friends I haven't seen in awhile
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>>7623908
>I guess you're one of those "I'm right, and the people who don't agree with me just don't know what's best for them" kinda people

desu most people who have strong opinions on certain things feel that way.
So if you mean if I'm the sort of person who has strong opinions on how society works, then yes.

>>7623914
unfortunately. I wouldn't go so far, as to say fuck her, but I'm just not going to really bother with indulging in someone else's self-hate.
If i'm doing that with anyone's it'll be mine
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>>7623906
hi chelsea
good morning

i was about to go play a game though

this drama also happens basically everyday
so it gets boring you know?

im glad you got a trip and a name though <3

>>7623914
Tell me about the most favorite vacation you ever took
whered you go?
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>>7623897
in my view /pol/ views are a symptom of cis / male socialization, ie holding onto views you developed pre-trans after transition
which is perfectly understandable for early transitioners, but troubling if you take them into the late game, like kayla does, or blaire white, for a notorious example

but that's a bit of a pot of shit and people will probably jump down my throat for it

>>7623928
i've been going on ps4gen a bit, besides that only an 8gag circlejerk (not /animus/, don't worry)
in ps4gen you get a few notorious trips, but besides that you're never sure who you're talking to

the thing is, 4chan is nice because you can meet a lot of good people here
the problem is that the format is really retarded and there's a stigma on trip-posting, so basically it takes people and walls them off from being able to form relationships, like you would on a regular forum
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>>>/pol/108505070
>>>/pol/108506097

I've noticed /pol/ starting to crack since trump won. It's like they have nothing to fight for anymore
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>tfw hate commies but they had the best national anthem and also have really nice flags
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>>7623939
>both are bongs
lol
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>>7623879
={ i liked her

>>7623891
>>7623899
>>7623933
We live in the same city. Jesus

>>7623896
When will Drunk bully you?
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>>7623924
that's a good call desu. I saw the full non angled version of your pic and you don't really pass at all. the wig was really low quality invest in a custom made one from human hair and not a synthetic one.

you're already working on voice so that part is covered and makeup is decent in guess another year or so on hrt might soften your jaw area and help you pass

oh yeah learn mannerisms posture and how to walk too
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>>7623938
yeah but i think claiming remnants of male socialization isn't really appropriate or true per se. I agree it is in cases like Kayla, but you have to remember views like that exist very widely in society and many women internalize that shit pretty hard, even if it's technically against their interest.
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>>7623938
but blaire white was an sjw before transition
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>>7623938
>blaire white
This is a bit of a sidetrack, but I do wonder how much of the stuff she actually believes. She's literal a caricature of a /pol/tard, I've convinced she's just saying whatever will get her the most views and money.
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>>7623936
>So if you mean if I'm the sort of person who has strong opinions on how society works, then yes.
Well, that's one way to spin it.

But I disagree that having a strong opinion on something automatically means you're right - it's entirely possible to be both very confident and very wrong.
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>>7623939
idk if it's just my confirmation bias but to anyone else does it seem like /pol/ / right wing people have mostly shifted their attention from being anti-muslim to being anti-lgbt since trump won? like to me it seems they feel like they 'won' the muslim immigrants fight now they are moving on to lgbt people already in their country
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>>7623948
>Korra telling someone else they don't pass
https://m.imgur.com/84DWLH4

Know your place Omar
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>>7623946
What is wrong with that island
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why is mtfg so on point with memes when humor is associated with testosterone?
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>>7623953
that's a pretty moot point though, people hold views they believe are correct and accurately reflect the world.
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>>7623946
>image.jpg
i bet one's amy
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>>7623952
Do you think her boobs are fake?
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>>7623950
I do think there's a distinction between conservatism and /pol/ ideology. The latter is really, really fringe. But yeah, people internalize ideas that are harmful to themselves a lot, it's not just women, or transgender people, it's everybody, and *sniff* the power of ideology is such that *picks nose* we often believe these ideas, which blind us and make us not see reality and so on, we *sniff* believe they are our own.
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>>7623957
mtfg's meme game is weak
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>>7623955
i can play this game too bitter hun
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>>7623957
because humour has nothing to do with your hormone lvls or identity
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>>7623957
because you have a bad taste in you humor
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>>7623932
for folkish music
defiance ohio, nana grizol, paul baribeau, ghost mice, ramshackle glory, andrew jackson jihad, harley poe, michael jordan touchdown pass, mountain goats, the taxpayers...
told you i was pleb tier
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>>7623965
>angled pic
>makeup

Nice try Omar
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>>7623971
keep gasping at straws bb it makes me turned on
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>>7623965
Korra you need to up your game and get that 100%
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i dont...uh..see trump as a legitimate president
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>>7623963
i fucking love your memes lol

mtfg is too spooked to see their glory

but seriously yeah pretty much this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ch5ZCGi0PQ
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>>7623960
It's not moot at all. You can believe something and still accept the possibility that you might be wrong. You've fully accepted that you're right and other people are wrong, and throw around baseless statements like "most people" to justify the arrogance.
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>>7623977
too much effort to get it to 100% desu
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>>7623967
but it empirically does.
besides, literally EVERYTHING you think is dictated by hormones, just not all of it is sex hormones. That's the definition of hormones, the chemicals that tell your brain what to think
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>>7623933
This is my last attempt to have some sort of reasoning with you.
I won't reply to you ever again and you don't reply to me ever again.
I won't bitch about you, and you don't bitch about me.
If you come up in convo you'll be mentioned but I won't say anything bad. Trip names come up in convo all the time, you just gotta deal with it.
I'm sorry for crushing on you, I'm not interested in you anymore, there will be no more "I <3 Mercury"-tier posts.
Bueno?
>>7623948
I say I don't pass like 10 times a day lol.
Yeah the wig is budget, It's just for trying on indoors, I'm gonna copy you and get a weave when the time comes.
>makeup is decent
Thanks
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>>7623939

>>7623950
that's true, i just think that'd be the most common cause in trans women
a lot of this shit just seems like cis views that they failed to drop during transition, like looking through the eyes of a woman instantly fucked a lot of my preconceptions

anti-feminist cis women are as much a problem desu

>>7623952
i remember when i was a /pol/tard i'd watch antifeminist women on youtube and they'd say other women would accuse them of working against their own interests to be popular with men

now i kinda believe that desu
i mean, fighting specifically for men's rights and against a movement which tries to promote your own is a bit of a cuckqueen move
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>>7623961
Stop assuming everything is me

I'm all cried out with the bf being nice to me tonight after my dysphoria attack and I feel ok right now. God I wish I could just cry the feels away forever. I used to be a stoic tough guy. Now I'm a emotional wreck who can't feel ok unless I have my mans arms around me
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>>7623978
he is a legit president. maybe not qualified but he is still the 45th president of the united states
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>>7623983
okay fampai
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>tfw took a haikyuu charater quiz
>tfw im Kuroo
>tfw bf got Kenma
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>>7623970
not pleb at all desu

pleb would be like mumford and sons or some shit
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>>7623965
>even replying to that schlock
Smh, you know better

>>7623914
JEHOVAH GIVE ME STRENGTH!!!!
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>>7623737
I'm not apologizing for your stupidity and narcissism, besides, I have no interest in being your friend again since you only thought of me as an attack dog and would likely pull the same shit because I refuse to take sides between friends over petty bullshit.

also I only said you were the prettiest to talk you down from one of your many episodes of self consciousness that you constantly came crying to me about, which did work because you never complained about your appearance again after that but obviously I handled it wrong because it has clearly gotten to your head.

now leave me alone.
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>>7623988
>Trump
>Legit president
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>>7623981
If I can do it, so can you <3
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>>7623970
your taste isn't necessarily pleby just super folk punksy. you should listen to asking for it- happy birthday Hitler it was my favorite album when folk punk was like the only genre I listened to
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>>7623979
I actually found myself talking about ideology in Zizekian terms in a discussion I had with some ladies here about TERFs. I literally can't help myself and being at LSE is just encouraging me.
>>
cisposters
>bitchy all the time
>no idea on how trans issues work
>want a shemale gf
>disgusting beta males
transposters
>bitchy sometimes, sweet most of the time
>can give good advice on transitioning
>wide range of sexualities, but respect transgirls as women
>(beta) males who transitioned into cute girls
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>>7624004
Tfw too dumb to get smart
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>>7623984
good that thing is hideous and Halloween tier bad high quality weave is fucking expensive though I don't know the conversion rate for pounds to dollars but this is how much mine cost me:

silk closure: 125$
human hair bundle x 5: 70$ (350$ total)
braids + sew in install: 125$

total: 550$

good news is that it lasts well over a year and when you need to update it all you do is buy a few bundles. plus it's custom made for your head shape and forced you nautral hair to grow. idk how fast for real black people though. my family is barely black
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>>7623980
yeah well, i honestly really really don't care at all lol. There are many things i dont hold strong opinions on, in this case i do.

>>7623986
yeah but in many cases it's a bit unfair and insulting to claim that. People feel like you're attacking their identity. As i said, i agree it's true in cases like kayle, but not really with phie or whatever.

>>7624004
i mean personally i've always disliked him esp since the time he supported Syriza, but the way he explains ideology is pretty fucking spot on.
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>>7624001
>tfw trump will never beat shakira to death with a baseball bat while pence cheers and tries to hide an erection
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>>7624008
>cisposters
>>bitchy all the time
>>no idea on how trans issues work
>>want a shemale gf
>>disgusting beta males
you just described yourself dude LOL
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>>7624011
Yeah I'm not a big fan of him from a political point of view, he's entertaining and explains ideology very well, but I feel his credentials as a leftist are questionable.
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>>7624008
>>
describe mike pence's facial expression upon being told that a woman he found attractive was actually transgender
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>>7624008
drunk chaser
>get's into arguments sometimes, chill most of time
>has some understanding of trans issues for a cis
>can give good life advice unrelated to transition
>respects transgirls as women
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>>7623937
Morning drakey :3

Wait are you an Aussie too?

Sall good, I gotta go get ready for work anyways ;_;

It IS a daily occurrence... Though when the seppos go to bed it calms down a little.

4U, I was anon posting until I saw you pop up. I wanted my first post to be to you :3

After all you were the one who helped me realise it's not a big deal really <3
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>>7624019
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>>7624019
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I'm gonna take a stupid amount of acid
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>>7624010
Wow a year, that's a lot longer than I thought.
I never understand the closure thing, what is that for?
$550 is £444
Now that you know I don't pass you can understand why I'm always sad and on drugs?
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>tfw ambiance will never maga
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>>7624016
>but I feel his credentials as a leftist are questionable.
especially after he was the candidate for the liberal democrats in slovenia ^^
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>>7624019
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>>7623737
So let's say a imperial guard is trapped on a Slaanesh controlled world.

This imperial guard suffers from gender dysphoria and has hidden it all his life and joined the army in a attempt to repress

Now of course slaanesh daemons can detect shes a repressed transgirl.

What happens? Will they force her to transition?
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>>7624030
take a smart amount of acid instead
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>>7624011
>People feel like you're attacking their identity
i guess, at least 'male socialization' gives you an excuse, though
otherwise you're just an uncle tom with masculine ideologies

>>7624013
but that's wrong, chaser-kun
i'm actually pretty sweet when i'm not being aggressively strawmanned c:
also i'm more interested in cis girls and femboys :thinking:
and i'm /cuteboy/ material, which instantly elevates me past 'beta male' status due to being able to get beta males to give me money

>>7624022
i thought you were going to bed
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>>7624024
naww im cali
so basically australia

just make a few blankposts sometime soon
youll get friends easily here
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>>7624012
Dont bully Shakira
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>>7624039
I thought you would stop being retarded
we are both disappointed
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>>7624038
But cypro suppresses the effects so I need to take more ;_;
>>
what is important to you alls life besides getting to the correct gender?
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>>7624011
>yeah well, i honestly really really don't care at all
Fair enough. Once you're convinced beyond all doubt that you're right, you'll only ever find reasons why people who disagree are wrong though.

There's too much of that on both sides of the political spectrum.
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>>7623987
are you getting hrt again?
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>>7624045
my career
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>>7624045
Having a good career in academia, making friends, having therapy for my mental issues, Paladin getting some well-deserved buffs in the next expansion to Final Fantasy XIV.
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>>7624045
almost nothing else for 90% of the thread
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>>7624045
m u s i c
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>>7624049
>>7624050
>Career
>Tranny
Pick one.
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>>7624045
my bf and shit posting
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>>7624045
being a good person
enjoying the simple things in life
learning
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>tfw snicker gets WILD in defense of her bf
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>>7624045
moneh
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>>7624055
>sex work isn't a career
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>>7624045
Getting mad pu$$¥ /◉ ᴗ ◉\
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>>7624061
No Edie.
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>>7624055
Not all of us have given up, Shakira. Academia might be one of the few places where "I'm a tranny" might give you a leg up if you're smart enough to seize the opportunities.
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>>7624058
my apologies
I hope it is an as understandable reason as mood swings
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>>7624066
Yeah but you have to live with the stigma of being an affirmative action babby.
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>>7624055
Have you considered that you're a failure for reasons other than being a tranny? Or is it easy for you to just blame it on that?
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>>7624045
help others when I can
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>>7624045
i guess i want a cute gf
or a femboy bf, but i don't think i'd want to date one ultra-long term

i honestly don't really have any goals outside of transitioning. it's probably something to be worried about.

>>7624067
it's alright
we're all girls here
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>>7624048
Yes, I suppose I must since it might be the only thing to stop the cycle. At least my bf held me and said told me everything will be ok.

I'm gonna regret breaking down like this because it was hard enough to convince him I was fine the first time
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>>7624022
I like him he's pretty okay
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>>7624066
it ain't the only place where you can get a leg up, if you know what i mean
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>>7624071
Nahhhh. if I was born a girl I'd be on top of the world!
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>>7624069
I don't give a shit, being a tranny is already stigma enough, so long as I have employment in sociology and am making enough money to live comfortably, I don't care. Even just "data analyst" is decent for me.
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nim is for ____
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>>7624076
I-I don't understand!
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>>7624076
Or two
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>>7624081
repetitive posting
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>>7624073
I know
cuz that makes everything okay kappa
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>>7624081
hugging
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>>7624045
idk I just want to be happy I guess

I don't really have any direction in my life but I guess I am interested in philosophy even though I'm pretty stupid
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>>7623877
>im afraid she'll have issues like Phie does for the rest of her life.

hey what
how is this my fault. dont jump to conclusions about why I am how I am if you dont know shit about me.
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>>7624045
improving myself overall. Specifically my social skills. So i can find more friends and socializing better with the ones i have.
Getting the motivation to work on my master again.
Finding more hobbies outside of the internet and improving at those.
Fixing my arm.

>>7624047
>There's too much of that on both sides of the political spectrum.

which is completely understandable, a polarized system leads to polarization everywhere
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>tfw nothing is important to me and I'm a sack of shit
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>>7624078
>tfw been in London 20 years
>No friends, no job, no qualifications, no relationships, no nothing
>tfw Nicotine has been here like a year
>Already she has more friends than me, nearly got a masters degree and about to start a career
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>>7623987

Titty. Skittles.

>>7624040

Drakey a good :3

Cali is defs the most Australian state in the union ;) Wait is it really morning there?

Anyways shower time... See you in like 3 hours.
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>>7624091
tackle hugg!!!!
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>>7624091
She's not saying it's your fault, she's just saying you have issues and I might grow to have those issues too.
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>>7623987
>>7624074
At least we turned you into a faggot. Now you have to go all the way
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>>7624091
i didnt say it was your fault. You yourself have pointed out multiple times you have self-hate issues and i was just mentioning that. I'm not assuming anything.
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>>7624089
^.^
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>>7624089

Eva is for hugging.
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>>7624095
I've been here only 4 months. My master's is the reason I'm here.
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>>7624091
you talk about hating yourself and wanting to be killed all the time
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>>7624074
hedpats
everything will be okay Amy
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>here comes phienchen with "I'M ONLY PRETENDING TO BE <x> STOP JUDGING MY PERSONALITY BASED ON EVERYTHING I SAY"

>>7624086
at least i'm only having bipolar or whatever moodswings once a week
drunk chaser is male 24/7 :(
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I'm kinda scared
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>>7624110
>>
Can hrt make you give a shit about stuff?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPqrimR8GWw
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what would you give to have a glimpse into the parallel universe where you were born a cis girl?

You could see your entire lifetime on a screen. You could watch yourself grow up again. All the experiences you never had. Would it help?
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>>7624114
your last 5 posts or so have just been arguing with other people maybe you should just stop
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>>7624120
nah you have to figuer out how to do that yourself
>>
hi
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>>7624126
What's the point, that would just make me feel like shit.
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>>7624119
For what it's worth I only have friends because the LSE pride society is pretty good, albeit I'm sure by 4chan standards its Tumblr Incarnate. Thankfully it seems to be largely free of some of Tumblr's most destructive behaviors.
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>>7624133
this
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>>7624126
I'm curious if I'd have gotten on testosterone or just been a non-binary who binds and insists on they pronouns.
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>>7624111
>>7624106
>>7624102
youre implying these things are related to my political views, but they arent at all.

>>7624114
just kill yourself, I am tired of your shit by now.
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>>7624135
>20 years
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>>7624126
that'd be so depressing
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>>7624126
>There's an alternate universe where I was born with a vagina but I'm a FTM trans person instead.
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>>7624128
probably
arguing is fun though tbqh

>>7624126
>Would it help?
>would being able to see a perfect life you'd never, ever be able to experience help you grow as a person
if i didn't disassociate solely because of the fact that in that parallel universe i'd probably act nothing like i do now
it'd just make me depressed
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>>7624141
>youre implying these things are related to my political views, but they arent at all.

I SPECIFICALLY said i didn't think this was the case
>>7623897
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>>7624131
first
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>>7624141
Lmao
>>7624147
Why do you hate the nicest trip here?
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>>7624153
hi rin how ya doin
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>>7624147
>arguing is fun
what male aggression you have, grandma
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>>7624112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZfiaygPYAA

I get deju vu now
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>>7624146
theres also a universe where youre a giant firebreathing dragon that does cocaine
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>>7624141
everything is related to political views, the personal is political
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>>7624135
The kinds of people who join pride societies are usually the more tumblr-inclined though. At least the ones who join and stay for long periods of time.
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>>7624157
hi daddy
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>>7624170
I want to go there
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>>7624160
hey olive ^^
what's up?
I'm supposed to finish studying a chapter and go to bed but i'm on 4chan again :/
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>>7624086
>>7624161
>>7624141

Stop engaging the Burch. It all ends when you let it.

My theory is that Burch is actually a semi sentient AI who's only directive is to reply to every post and bait people into interactions... All you have to do is stop replying.
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>>7624141
>just kill yourself
no, sorry
i usually just leave you filtered because you pull the "i'm only pretending to be retarded" thing every time you're criticized
and it's not really worth responding to desu

>>7624159
i don't hate her, i just don't like her projected politics
and apparently her posts aren't a valid basis off of which to assume her beliefs, so i just save myself the trouble and filter

also i'm fairly certain the nicest trip here would be someone besides the girl who just told me to kill myself

>>7624161
go to bed, snicks
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>>7624178
I'll take that advice
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>>7624172
I'm willing to tolerate the often naive liberalism from these people because they're for the most part undergrad students and thus younger than me. Most of them probably haven't been through the part of studying social sciences where your entire faith in the world completely breaks. I'll take naive but well-intentioned, albeit it tends to make me question how much I'm being hugboxed.
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>>7624095
Circle*

>>7624110
Hold on to it
>>
/mtfg/ is angry today
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>>7624171
how is my opinion on grilled cheese sandwiches related to my political stance

i eat mine just like everybody else does - cut into tiny swastikas
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>>7624194
grrr
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>>7624186
I'm actually interested in a rare Nicole today
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>have extreme social anxiety
>need to call people for job
rip
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>>7624165
if at first you dont succeed, try and try again
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>>7623936
Ive tried to talk to her about it, its not worth it yeah. I mean, I still like her because were both white nats- but I dont wanna talk to her, and wouldnt want to spend time with her.

>>7623937
My favorite vacation....
Probably this Christmas when I went to the city. My dad gendered me correctly for the first time in my life, I had an amazing meal with my entire family and it probably the most pleasant time Id had with them all in a long time. I hung out with my sister, my brother was really pleasant.

>>7623996
VANQUISH THE WICKED IN THE EYES OF YAHWEH!

>>7623998
Haha, whatever you say Birdie. You think you're the only chaser who fawns over me and tells me I'm the prettiest? You were just... my favorite chaser.

It wasn't petty, she was attacking me and it was hurting my feelings, and you just stood by and let her. You not coming to my defense hurt far more than anything Chara said, desu.
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>>7624176
I'm going to fix my hormones today
My girlfriend and I are "on break"
Get off 4chan it's awful
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>>7624194
angry hugg
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>>7624196
the fact that you eat cheese means you are okay with animals being enslaved to produce it
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>>7624186
You're being hugboxed. Just work on your voice

>>7624135
What are their opinions on cis normative culture and religion
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>>7624181
Yeah but she's entitled to her opinion. She's never nasty to anyone here, only thought police would have a problem with her. Are you thought police?
>i'm fairly certain the nicest trip here would be someone besides the girl who just told me to kill myself
That's because you've been pissing her off for days.
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>>7624201
Do you mean a picture? I can send you one once I take a selfie that I don't feel completely ashamed of.
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>>7624194
grrrrrr
my angry little girl

>>7624214
i've been having her filtered for days and avoiding mentioning her
>>
WE
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>>7624173
hello sweet daughter
did you finish your homework
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>>7624211
Please stop making assumptions about my interactions with people. None of them say I look like a girl (because I don't!), they're just willing to respect my preferred name, which is nice, but I feel might be Nicer Than I Deserve. I agree with the voice thing though, it's something I want to work on. As for their opinions on cis normative culture? Seem pretty negative in general, you know, the typical you'd expect from a pride society at a social sciences university. Haven't had any conversations about religion with them though.
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>>7624204
>having feelings
>insulting 14 year old emo cis girls on the internet

>>7624221
no daddy, please don't punish me ;)
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>>7624205
NICE
does that mean you have an endo appointment? Please tell them how retarded they are for giving you contraceptives instead of real hrt for a year.

>>7624215
ok yeah i have the same problem too.
The last selfie i liked was a few weeks ago but i've lost a noticeable amount of weight since then but haven't gotten a nice pic yet :/
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>tfw even the fox laughts at my misfortune
https://youtu.be/woB7qpgYQN4
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>>7624186
>Most of them probably haven't been through the part of studying social sciences where your entire faith in the world completely breaks
Does this generally happen or did you just have some kind of nervous breakdown halfway through your dissertation, surrounded by the angry words of a dozen dead philosophers?

I wouldn't trust them not to hugbox you. Only your best friends and your worst enemies won't hugbox you.
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>>7624225
pls post more chara eats pizza images
those are my favouritee
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>>7624218
Stop with the racism. We are all gods children. Even you poor misguided soul.
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Hello girls, what's happening? Today has kinda sucked.

>tfw no one to choke me rn.
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>>7624214
>Yeah but she's entitled to her opinion.
Did anyone say she wasn't?
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why is edgelordism so popular with trannies pre-transition
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>>7624235
I was worried about you
Nice stockings
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>>7624199
:33

>>7624206
ow!

>>7624217
^.^
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>>7624232
I don't have any of those
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>>7624207
you can get vegan friendly cheeses, y'know

don't eat it though, it's gross as fuck
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>>7624235
can you post that song again, the paino one
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>>7624235
not sure why, but i assumed you were black
maybe it's the name
you look pretty nice, though

>>7624243
how you doing?
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>>7624224
I understand we met a long time ago so Im guessing its improved. Do you use the mens or womans rest room?
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>>7624126
>The Mirror of Erised is an ancient, ornate mirror. It has clawed feet and a gold frame inscribed with the phrase " Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi." The mirror shows the most desperate desire of a person's heart, a vision that has been known to drive men mad.
>Men have wasted away before it, not knowing if what they have seen is real, or even possible.

You know what's sad?
I would revolve that life around that screen. I would waste away and entire lifetime just to watch "her"
Sit up on endless nights and days. Just watching her life pass by. While I had none.
And even though it would never be my reality. I would know that somewhere. She was real.
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>>7624229
I think most people who enter sociology (or other social sciences) do so with some naive belief in that it can be a positive force for society and they can be part of this force. By the end of your bachelor's me and several of my pals back in Chile were basically completely cynical about the ability of social sciences to do anything to challenge structures of power or even change the way people think.
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>>7624153
I am still not amused, but alright I guess.

>>7624181
you deserve it.

>>7624196
quality post, I love it.
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>>7624205
also wait what do you mean "on break"?
Did you tell her you're probably straight? Or are you planning on doing that later?
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>>7624249
lmao wtf
What did you assume I was?
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>>7624251
Still using the men's bathroom. Outside this group of people I pretend to be little besides a dude who wears foundation and eyeliner. Easier to be a homo than to visibly trans.
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>>7624246
o-oh
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>>7624256
uh
aren't you confirmed black?
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>>7624254
I like you but I disagree with your political views and the stuff you say about trannies being mentally ill men
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>>7624235
You remind me of someone I met who was stealth. Cute socks too! '-'/

>>7624241
Its funny

>>7624246
Eat some pizza and take a selfie
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>>7624235
unfortunate face, though I like your outfit
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>>7624247
the only vegan cheese substitute I've had is Daiya but it was really good
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I'm feeling pretty weird
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>>7624261
Wear a dress to Hammersmith college
>>7624265
No I'm white.
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>>7624275
go to bed
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>Tfw you took a nap and missed out on awesome drama.

;-;
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>>7624261
No Nico. Use more natural makeup and wear clothing meant for females but still unisex. You have to use the womans from now on

>>7624265
Penelope are you pink?

>>7624279
Ahahahaha
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>>7624279
:thinking:
everyone says you're black desu
i'm fairly certain

>>7624281
hi sass
ur a fuckin cunt
disprove this fact in 20 words or less
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>>7624225
now youll have to rake the leaves in the backyard for your bad behavior

get to work
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>>7624280
I can't
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>>7624204
someone who everyone at the time thought was a 15 year old tranny called you ugly on the internet, what a traumatizing event that must have been for you.

oh, the horror.

also, I'm not gonna dig out my old computer and get into posting actual screenshots of our actual conversation instead of this low effort fake, but good attempt riley.
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>tfw resubbing to a mmo after my repression fell apart gave me feels because my character is a girl and basically my female power fantasy.
videogames are shit.
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>>7624253
You learned about power structures, social instutitions, ideologies, modes of belief, laws, class distinctions and more.

And then realised you were powerless to do anything to affect any meaningful change upon the world with this knowledge. How romantic. I hope you wept openly.
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>>7624289
hop into bed and close your eyes
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>>7624241
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Do not go gentle into that good night. Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESWzPhZWYeI

i want those days back ;_;
I was strong... I was powerful
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>>7624284
I don't know where you've been getting your information from, I'm definitely white.
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>tfw half black
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>>7624292
>videogames are the shit.
fixed for you
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>>7624295
I won't be able to sleep but it's too early for visuals
I'm just feeling weird right now
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>>7624282
I hope you're aware that I'm not taking your advice regarding transition. Everything you suggest is, sorry, utterly insane and extremely likely to put me in harm's way. I'm not going into the women's bathroom, are you completely mad? I've only been on HRT for like 50 days!
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>>7624253
>Sociology
>Social sciences
A gojirion autist STEM laughs are heard on the internets
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R8 my faggy boymode-onlymode
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>>7624299
Korra I want to talk to you on Skype about something, will you accept my add? You can re-delete me afterwards if you want idk
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>>7624299
isn't that what most black people in usa are
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>>7624282
um what
i just remember people referring to shakira as black
i'm like... tanned-ish, i've been a shut-in since going trans so my skin's whitened down a lot

>>7624303
sass i'm sorry i was joking because you asked for drama ;_;

>>7624298
i'm fairly certain i remember you saying 'phien is cool because she's friends with me and i'm black'
or something
idk

>>7624292
yeah, in retrospect it's a bit amusing how i'd always play strong womyn despite being /pol/ and strong female leads triggering me
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>>7624292
Nico why aren't you playing wow instead of ffxiv
is it the female characters?

>>7624301
go downstairs and make some tea. Not dark.
After you drink it you'll feel better and should brush your teeth and get in bed.
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>>7624242
Thanks. For both.

>>7624248
Sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBomHst8n64&feature=youtu.be

>>7624249
Yeah, definitely not black. :P
thanks.

>>7624267
>Stealth
Hopefully in 7 months I can stealth.

>>7624271
Yeah basically. It's okay, I don't really mind my face. The lighting isn't doing me any favors either. :P

It could be a lot worse. You live with what you have. I seem to pass well at 6.5 months, so I'll live.
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>>7624305
looks kind of andro dykeish actually
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>>7624266
I dont give a flying fuck if anyone here likes me. You either do or you dont, doesnt change my life meaningfully in any way.
I am highly allergic to posts like 'hurr youre crazy and dont know what youre talking about', but I believed you when you said that wasnt the point you were trying to make. So it okay.
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>>7624305
buddi
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>>7624309
ffxiv over wow hahahaah
>2.5 second gcd
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>>7624305
you have a girly ass body but your hair right now is gonna prevent you from getting gendered female
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>>7624309
Wait you don't understand
See >>7624030
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>>7624305
Fucking hell you've changed a lot. Congrats.
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>>7624313
ily Phie <3
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>>7624305
you look like 50 year old soccer mom
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>>7624311
thank you, I forgot to save the link
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>>7624308
Shakira's black
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>>7624302
Caddy used the females from the get go. If you dont start now it will be harder to do

>>7624308
Hmmmmmm

>>7624311
I hope you feel better and if you need to leave mtfg it'd be best as everyone needs space =]
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>>7624325
Why did you have to kill the joke?
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>>7624309
I can be a catgirl in FFXIV, I was a big fan of Final Fantasy during my teens and the game is full of rerences to old games (often too many, actually), the aesthetics are nice and the story can (at times) be quite good.
>>7624316
FFXIV has a long gcd but endgame rotations are full of moves that don't trigger it. See pic related.
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>>7624306
yeah sure

>>7624307
no they're mostly 100% nig nog
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>>7624305
would cuddle/10
I'd try to get new frames if i were you though

>>7624313
understandable, anyone would be annoyed by that

>>7624318
oh what
gdi
ok, did you take 3 tabs or smthing
please tell me you didnt take 4
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>>7624126
I'd love it
Meeting my other self would be wonderful
>>7624141
>>7624114
P-pls don't fight ;-;
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>>7624313
sertii's pretty bad when it comes to being closed-minded about other people's opinions, but she's a commie so i forgive her
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>>7624330
>please tell me you didnt take 4
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>>7624328
I know lmao I was just shitposting. FFXIV is honestly one of the better mmos out there
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>>7624291
birdy post dick already
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>>7624284
Inwill regale you with a haiku of greentext:

>I may be a cunt
>But not as much as a cunt
>Than what your mom is

OMG that's like 17 words.
>Mfw
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>>7624311
yeah pretty cute desu
how old are you? if you don't mind me asking?

>>7624305
you're pretty cute but you should grow your hair out and smile more imo
you look feminine though
andro dykeish, like other anon said
i'd be confused about your gender if i saw you

>>7624325
yeah i figured

>>7624326
what do you mean by hmmmmmm
this is a pic of my hand from a while ago
my arms are still..... very lightly tanned, but i'm getting kinda white
cute pic by the by

>>7624331
she's not worth arguing with tbqh
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>>7624338
jesus dude
fuck ok tell me how it was tommorow
i hope you're going to be alright

>>7624328
you can be a night elf in wow though!
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>>7624351
I will
You can read back my experiences on here as always too if I can type
I'll be fine I hope
I still have xanax if I need it
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Working it to get smaller is the only thing you can do to get more 2d
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>>7624204
Moap is your name Riley? =3

>>7624291 >>>7624343

>>7624347
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>7624344
Sass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>7624308
:p I joked back as well!
Son't be angry at me either pls.
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>>7624347
>yeah pretty cute desu
thx
>how old are you? if you don't mind me asking?

I am 25. I started transitioning when I was 24.
>>
i will admit that i've been a bit too argumentative lately but after <previous drama> i kind of have my guard up around /mtfg/ and that tends to make me more aggressive
so uh
sorry?

>>7624344
by complying with my request you acknowledged my statement which requested that you attempt to disprove a fact, thus proving that you agree with me that it is a fact c:
you have been rused and abused <3
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>>7624353
my bones are the issue :/
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>>7624305
ily
i saw you were gonna go out in girlmode this week
exciting :3
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>>7624358
I like arguing with you desu
You're really frustrating but a fun poster
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>tfw naked in my bathroom listening to shitty pop songs i bought on itunes when i was 11
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>>7624353
how much do you pay for that membership, or is that an army gym?
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>>7624305
:3 would nep on.

>>7624354
Oryx! :3
>>
>tfw literally shaking
lmao this'll be fun
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>>7624367
early 00's pop is a lot better than its reputation imo.
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>>7624352
i was drooling and stuff with 2 tabs
fuck
good luck senpai
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>>7624357
yeah, you said you were 6 months in, right? that's not bad at all!
from what i've gathered it usually takes a year or two years until HRT's magic is really in play :3

>>7624356
i thought you were ignoring with me because i may have worded that too aggressively
i dunno

>>7624365
oh, thanks?
desu i assumed you really didn't like me so i was kind of starting to dislike you in turn :c
i get social paranoia and expect everyone to hate me
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>>7624367
dont believe you
post a pic for proof
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https://discord.gg/bYbumBD
who wants to talk about NGE with me on discord?
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>>7624377
You seem to be an alright person you just have wrong opinions on literally everything and I'm an autismposter myself so we kinda clash lots
Also I liked Mirielle better ;_;

>>7624376
Thanks I'll need it
I'm feeling very weird
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>>7624366
Phinchey don't forget to eat

>>7624371
=3

>>7624377
Penelope
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>>7624366
hand over the cute pictures! p-please!
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>>7624305

>Selfie with Lumia

RIP in Peace Nexus 5X
I'm sorry for your loss :(

Pretty cute boymode though, you look like an actual cis girl I know tbqh...
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>>7624343
>>7624354
NO
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>>7624294
It wasn't as dramatic as that but yeah learning about all that shit really makes you realise how difficult it is to change the modes society works. It doesn't help that some of the smartest academics in the field seem to only care about their ivory towers. Maybe they, too, have given up.
>>
Why am I so stupid
I do need help
>>
>>7624368
Fitness 19 is 18 a month and 1 down for classes and gym hop if you buy online, month to month, or you can pay 10 with no yoga/Pilates but I think it's worth because a class will cost you $20 minimum anywhere
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>>7624387
I think Ill eat a bag of chips in an hour or so

>>7624390
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>>7624374
im just laughing cuz some of the ones i bought were pretty cringeworthy haha

>>7624378
hmmmmm
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>>7624358
:3 i like you Ms. Penelope!

>>7624367
>Tfw never bought music on itunes
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>>7624367
naked is too cold
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>>7624399
wait, how old are you?
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>>7624398
Eat a potato
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>>7624394
that's why you join a party if you wanna change something
a Marxist-Leninist party
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>>7624241
it's pronounced eve-an-GEL-ee-on
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>>7624385
>wrong opinions on literally everything
this but you
oh :c
yeah a finn guy was also telling me he super liked mirielle because he wanted to call me "miri"
it seems to fit my dominant side more, but penelope is cuter so it won over in the end

>>7624387
w-what
sorry, i didn't know how to reply to that ;_;
idk i wasn't sure if you wanted me to?

>>7624402
t-thanks
whatchu up to? :3
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>>7624398
t-thank you, phien always have best pictures!
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>>7624407
im 20, so mid-late 00's songs
>>
>tankies
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>>7624404
the steam from my shower makes it toastier
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>>7624225
If a child spoke to me the way that you did Id tear into her just as hard. When I was a child and tore into adults where I hung out they didn't not insult me back because I was a kid. Nothing personal, that guy in the pic doesn't even know you- Im just demonstrating a point to Bird.

>>7624291
That's not you, moron.
That's another chaser who told me I was beautiful, today, at will. You should see my facebook feed. I'm showing you that I have lots of guys telling me I'm the prettiest, and your particular praise made little difference to my ego. If I kept screenshots of all the times guys told me I was the prettiest, Id have my PC flooded within weeks. Besides, who needs screenshots of a daily event?

One of my good friends wouldn't stand up for me, it hurt a lot.
You were the one who replied to me, btw. If you don't want to talk, stop replying. Wouldn't things would be so much easier if we were friends again, though?
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>>7624411
>dominant side
Yeah Mirielle is kinda the porn school teacher name
That's probably the acid speaking though
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>>7624419
shower is nice :3
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>>7624414
YOURE SO MUCH YOUNGER

>>7624413
<3

>>7624408
I dont like potatoes
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>>7624414
>tfw 22
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>>7624423
:33

>>7624424
i-is that bad
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>>7624424
phien buddi
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>>7624411
>Dubz Czech'd
I knew you were joking because of the wording tho :3

I'm debating with myself if and what I should eat for dinner.

Maybe an apple and some wheat thins.
:thinking:
>>
this is pretty intense especially looking as I only dropped less than an hour ago
>>
>>7624037
>>7624421
Answer me miss slannesh
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>>7624411
=}

>>7624421
RILEY

>>7624424
THEN EAT SOME FRUIT
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>>7624436
thats a good thing :3
>>
>>7624421
I have no interest in being your friend and you are no longer someone I care to associate myself with, so no.
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>>7624444
Nice quads bitch.

Also fuck all these young shits.
>>
>>7624439
im honestly kinda scared for you
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>>7624414
>>7624431
Reeeee young trannies I hate you so much!!!
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>>7624451
I am too
Mostly just very excited though
>tfw screen is made up of pretty colours
wew
I'm shaking really bad
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>>7624437
SO MANY ARMS
SO NICE :3

>>7624450
ya ;_;
my skype name means 'Vile Grandma With A Hat'
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>>7624444
oh okay :D

>>7624450
>>7624452
w-what'd i do
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>>7624422
>porn school teacher name
jesus fuck you're not winning me over here
i think i'd be a sub in a relationship with another girl, so pen would work better, but it'd be weird if i'm in a dom relationship with a guy

>>7624438
>maybe an apple and some wheat thins
i'd berate your choice of food but i'm gaining a bit of weight so maybe i should start eating sparsely too ;_;
esp since i lost muscle i think i'm chubbier than i was pre-HRT

>>7624441
a-anon you're confusing me

>>7624450
tfw 19 8)
>>
>>7624464
I'm sorry don't take anything I say for the next 12 hours seriously I am on an unhealthy amount of drugs
>>
>>7624458
lie down and put on some relaxing music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC_ljoPFjak
you'll be more comfy
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>>7624461
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>>7624471
tfw no eva tacklehugs
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>>7624468
No I need to watch the rest of this CSGO match
Then I'll go down and eat
Then I will lay down and stare into space
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>>7624475
that the only tackle hugg picture I have :c
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>>7624126
Nothing as it would be a more boring life than I've had. I can guarantee I'd have never met many of the people I did if I'd been a cis girl. The whole reason I met them is mom's friend brought them around because I was trans. Also my excellence in both art and photography that opened up other chances was due to being ostracized because I was a feminine guy.
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>>7624440
Oh, goodness, hm, yes, they probably would dangle the possibility of being a girl in front of her- and what repressing transgirl could resist the possiblity of a true sex change? Is there even one of us who wouldn't dabble in black magic in our pursuit of beauty? Everyone in this thread is kind of already damned to Slaanesh.
Thankfully, the taint feels good.

>>7624354
Yeppers, Riley Church is who I am <3

>>7624441
Hi~!

>>7624447
You're breaking my heart Birdie, I know you miss me too.
>>
>>7624485
we'll make some more when we meet up ^>^
>>
>>7624484
>watching that rng fest of a game
>>
>>7624490
it be fun
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>>7624452
Youth means nothing when i was turbocharged with testosterone and look 30 with my massive skull
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>>7624489
idk what to tell you
>>
>>7624492
every good game has a certain amount of rng
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>>7624497
tfw you start young and you'll still end up a hon :(
>>
>>7624489
ilu moap I'll always be here for u and back u up if u ask <3
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>>7624485
>>
>>7624467
i want to be on drugs desu ;w;
>>
>>7624507
oh gosh, so cute! >///<
>>
>>7624507
that ain't no tacklehug >:c
>>
>>7624508
Don't become like me
Real advice
Do NOT become like me
>>
>tfw will never pass
should i just kill myself instead of going through the financial and mental burden of transitioning?
>>
>>7624394

Society is limited by idealism. That is all. People haven't given up, they've just given up on cemented ideology. Fluidity is far more cohesive than a static social structure. You know? Work with the individual and their needs so they can participate, instead of isolating people because they don't naturally conform to the current rigid social structure. Party politics are no different. Though, arguably they could be seen as the macroscopic expression of social fluidity, so I can't really hold onto that view either. The fact that no individual, or group of individuals, can objectively relate to every single human merely implys that society is too complex for there to be an ideal version. We are far more bound by geopolitics than ideology. Ideology is merely the bread and circuses for the masses to digest, because frankly most people don't really care about much except the maintenance of their individual status quo. Does this affect me and the people I love? No? Who cares. This is also why the media is such a powerful tool for social manipulation. Most people have 5 seconds a day they are willing to give a fuck, so they believe what they are taught to trust. The News didn't lie about the weather, so why would they lie about XYZ. It's not about giving up. It's about knowing that trying to control society through rhetoric alone is about as useful as trying to dam a river with your hands. There's only so much you can do. Society has to want change for change to occur. Hitler didn't rise to power because he was a professional manipulator. He rose to power because he was exactly what the German people wanted. It's sold to us that the ideology is poison, same with communism. It's not. People are the poison, especially when we get into large groups.
>>
>>7624514
why
i'm depressed all the time :3

i mean i'll skip out on going back to seeing myself as a mentally ill boy
but i wouldn't mind doing the drugs
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Holy crap im pale!
My makeup doesnt even fit my skin tone anymore
>>
>tgfw visuals getting nicer
w-wew this is cool
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>>7624523
cute

>tfw i'm not pretty
why live
>>
>>7624522
Doing drugs habitually isn't good
Drugs are comfy and fun but don't do them too much or you'll become shambled
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>>7624503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiRDJLcYua0
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>>7624489
Hmm

>>7624519
Yes. Be the girl inside if you

>>7624523
What is this cis girl back??
>>
>>7624489
I'm pure :^)
>>
>>7624532
bump
>>
everything is so pretty
>>
>>7624524
?
>>
>>7624546
i did a lot of acid this is my live trip feed
>>
>>7624546
she took 4 tabs of acid lmao
>>
>>7624543
including anna :)
>>
>>7624543
does hrt chance colour perception?
>>
amy is mean
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>>7624543
Anna is pretty
>>7624537
Im not a girl!
Im a big boy!
>>7624531
Dont say that, it will just end up hurting you more in the long run
>>
>>7624554
ive wondered that too

don't girls see more shades of red?
>>
>>7624552
>>7624556
Thank you <3
Untrue though

>>7624554
acid does everything is pretty colours
>>
Doing couch to 5k on my gf

She says she hates me so much rn

Why do I kill everything I lov
>>
>>7624555
spartan amy?
>>
>>7624559
oh, I don't want to do that
>>7624558
I think I heard it changes it but idk
>>
>>7624556
ily hanna
>>
>>7624569
you shouldn't
drugs are bad
>>
>>7624565
idk is there more than one amy here?
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>>7624555
Amy is man*

Ftfy

But seriously what did I do this time. I'm already cried out
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>>7624571
Aww thats sweet
But also very gay
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>>7624580
>ywn hedpat amy and call her a good girl
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>>7624561

Not everyone has the same level of will power :(

Maybe there is something stopping her from having the motivation... Just support her in what she wants to do, right? You can't force people to change, even if it is what is best for them :(

Good luck! Relationships are tricky...
>>
>>7624580
don't feel like talking about it because i don't know if i've got the wrong amy.

Punching a person when they're down is mean, so I probably shouldn't bitch about it rn.
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>>7624556
Im gonna punch you
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>>7624576
hips goes under amy
she mods /cutetrans/

there's another amy here who thought they were trans but have a gay bf and feel okay being cis now?
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>>7624498
Tell me you're sorry, that you have missed me this whole time, and that you should have stood up for me. Then Ill apologize for all the stuff I did, and we can go back to the way it used to be.
At the very least, it'd quell your loudest opponent.

>>7624505
Same ofc thats just how being friends works, Id never let anyone be mean to you!

>>7624537
What reaction did you expect? I love the name Riley, I would have changed it to that if I didn't.

>>7624541
You don't know how good the taint feels, and for that I pity you.
>>
eva is for ___
>>
>>7624596
How many headmasters you got, Oryx?
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>>7624603
nim
>>
>>7624602
wouldnt have*
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>>7624585
if love is gay than you have the gayest piece of my heart
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>>7624592
Well I haven't talked to anyone tonight except this thread, my bf and discord which is named differently. So you deffo have the wrong Amy

>>7624587
Bf did that when I was crying. I feel disgusting now.
>>
>>7624601
Is /cutetrans/ the only /mtfg/ server or is there another?
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Finally sorted the tons of pictures I had on my desktop.
I wish Id have the energy to sort and name them as well.
>>
>tfw your friend introduces you to her boyfriend with boy name but calls you girl and uses female pronouns in front of him

I've never been looked at so weird in my life
>>
>>7624602
Ok you've convinced me.

Convert me to the ways Slaanesh. I want to be a girl
>>
>>7624603
evangelion
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>>7624608
Its not a transformer its from hagen no zista. Count
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>>7624625
quick!
suck his dick to distract him!
>>
>>7624596
As a manly man im not allowed to fight girls tho :c
>>7624615
Haha you heart is gay~
>>7624625
Aaaaaaaa
My parents started to do this
I had to tell then to stop
>>
>>7624618
saved. I wish I had the time to sort all my pics.
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>>7624602
>you will never have a sleep over with moap and fall asleep cuddling

bad feel
>>
what is happening
I'm gonna go downstairs and eat and sit down for a while
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>>7624601
>there's another amy here who thought they were trans but have a gay bf and feel okay being cis now?

Nope. That master plan went up in smoke. At least I have dick now.
I despise this eternal curse.
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>>7624642
I cant tell if youre mocking me, in case you arent; do you know what it says?
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>>7624633
I saw ur weirdwolf once tho
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>was doing okay Friday
>dysphoria and depression wore me down again
God dammit
I guess I'll just keep distracting myself with homework
>>7624609
Hugg
>>7624618
I have like 1500 reaction pics I have to go through and sort but I'm too lazy to do it
>>
>Korra says I don't pass at all
>/mtfg/ says I do pass
I don't know who to believe. Korra says y'all just don't know what a cis black woman looks like. I totally agree with her that my wig sucks but she also said my jaw is "completely fucked", /mtfg/ has never said this so I'm mystified.
>>
>>7624656
I think it says abloo abloo abloobloo but I'm not positive
>>
>>7624609
oh gosh
>>
>>7624602
but I'm not sorry for refusing to call my tranny friend a boy to make you feel better, and I haven't spared a single thought for you since after your spergout mostly ended much less missed you, and I also don't and never will feel bad for remaining neutral on some petty shit flinging contest my friends had over a year ago.

I do not want you back, period, because you will do the same shit again, and that's not to mention the shitty narcissistic person you've become.
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Do I deserve to be loved yet?
>>
>>7624666
frieza lips
>>
I wish my body was in good enough shape to do the couch to 5k. Fucking ME/CFS is making it hard to just get the farm chores done.

I messed up yesterday. I should have bought more Co-Q10.
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>>7624657
I have two of those. This is my favorite
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>>7624635
WTF NO

>>7624641
It was awkward she knows my name I wish she wouldn't say deadname.
Ugh with parents it's a different kind of awkward though :/
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>>7624669
>ME/CFS
aka lazy fatass syndrome
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>>7624658
Iktf
sigh

>>7624662
rude :c
>>
>>7624235
Why hello there Wednesday Adams.
>>
>>7624656
of course I do. ich habe keine memes die ich nicht verstehe.
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>>7624666
No.
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>>7624677
basig... (._.)
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I'm starting to waffle again guys. I'm not sure that I want to be a woman. I thought I'd feel more sure on Hormones, you know?
>>
>>7624680
hi sophie
its snowing really hard outside
i thought it was the most pretty thing in the world
until i saw you posting
>>
>>7624666
your hair looks better than the last time i saw it :3
>>
>>7624693

aw.

Maybe a few more months on hormones and when my hair grows longer...
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>>7624661
hey senpai, my jaw is completely fucked too join the club :)))

>>7624686
hi, I always dress like i'm on my way to a funeral. *shrug*
>>
>>7624617
there's a lot of mtfg servers
every other transgirl has their own
i don't think a lot of /mtfg/ posters post on /cutetrans/ anymore
amy on /cutetrans/ is notorious, though

>>7624653
what
>at least i have a dick now
so are you trans again
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>break dowm
>cry out all dysphoria to bf
>brain starts to concoct another harebrained repression scheme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3kzvkAeLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84TouqfIsiI
>>
>>7624661
post a pic? mtfg is pretty hugboxy nowdays, cant trust most people here
>>
>>7624679
No, the body doesn't properly produce enough of the needed chemicals to change simple sugars into ATP using aerobic means. Thus the body quickly runs out of ATP during effort like heavy thinking or physical activity. Because of that the body needs to make ATP using anerobic means which is much less efficient, and also causes other problems.
>>
>>7624661
wait, is that pic of the really pretty black girl lying in bed you
>>
>>7624374
THIS IS A FACT
LET THESE HOES KNOW SOPHIE!!!
>>
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>>7624696
>>
>>7624697
DAMN
>>
>>7624708
>excuses excuses excuses
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how are you today?
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>>7624711
Hmm?
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>>7624625
RIP
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>>7624699
No, no,no. Being loved has nothing to do with passing and shit. It's all about founding someone who welcomes your presence. being a tranny just makes it harder is all.

>>7624704
Are you going to develop a multiple personality disorder like McAvoy?
>>
>>7624722
better than yesterday
how about you evafu
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>>7624702
No.i said Dick.

Not a dick. Access to dick. My boyfriends dick.

>are you trans again
Until the next manic depression bipolar induced switcharoo yes

>tfw bawling two hours ago
>now laughing manically

Maybe I should just transition to crazy instead
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>>7624724
Mercury!
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>>7624697
SO NICE
I wish it would snow here again, our doggo loves it SO MUCH

>>7624692
perfekt :3

>>7624714
YES I WILL!
thanks for your support!!
>>
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>>7624716

No. I refuse to go back to that miserable existence of feeling wrong. If I'm transgender, if I am, truly, a woman, then I need to know.
>>
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hi
>>
>>7624730
looks like ur already there desu
>>
>>7624728
first blood tests done soon I think, nervous, hoping for something odd
>evafu
another nickname ><
>>
>>7624591
She did great!

I'm a good sergeant
>>
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>>7624700
Maybe it's time to start dressing normally. Looking like a Suicide Girl reject is not really helping you.
>>
>>7624739
hi lauren
>>
>>7624739
some help that doggo :(
>>
>>7624711
I don't remember taking any pics of me lying in bed so probably not no.
>>7624700
>>7624706
w/e it don't matter I'm boymode 4 lyfe anyway.
>>
>>7624742
i need to get my blood tested D:
>another nickname
:p i did it because it rhymed with "how about you"
>>
>>7624702
What is /cutetrans/ amy notorious for?
>>
>>7624743
if you dont agree with this man, you're a racist pos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPqrimR8GWw
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>>7624734
Eyyy Sophie. Sorry I dropped out earlier I had to go to sleep. The last training wrecked me.
What were you asking about gaining weight?
>>
>>7624754
I have the most nicknames of anyone I think ><
>>
>>7624730
oh, right
you should see a psych for your bipolar, i think
i should too, but i'm too depressed and scared to do so
is it bad to say i'm glad to have amy back?
you were best girl desu uwu

>>7624730
insecurity is common early on
i've been slowly moving from being "i'm a boy pretending to be a girl" at first to "transwomen are a type of women" and now i'm at "transwomen are women"

though the switch could have been induced by what i think might be very slight mania, i dunno

you grow to accept yourself as female, i think.
>>
you know your fucked when a doctor says he'd rather have AIDS than ME/CFS.
>>
>>7624758
Fuck you I'm on a diet :@
>>
>>7624744
Zheanne's style is cute!!
>>
>>7624757
>elected by the majority

I stopped listening, he's on lithium
>>
>>7624765
Be quiet Oryx.
>>
>>7624755
sexually assaulting people and gloating about it

acting inappropriately sexual in women's dorm then suing when women complained
>>
>>7624695
Yes my darling anon?

>>7624724
Right? Like I feel like the pronouns are harder to get right than the name. Yknow especially she's like "GIRL YES WE ARE GOING OUT THIS WEEK (boyname)"
>>
>>7624763
AIDS really? Surely you mean HIV? I think most people woud take even cancer over AIDS.
>>
>>7624753
i mean not lying, but it looked like you were leaning up on a bed or something, you couldn't really tell
i just remember a pic of a really cute black girl and somebody saying it was you
probably not you though, idk

>>7624755
from what i've heard she raped a few trips
also she's constantly shitposting about suing people and lawsuits and it's cringe-y
>>
>>7624776
u are pretty
>>
>>7624773
Anon. I will get better. Zheanne should look at classic films fashion and emulate that, like the movie stoker. Its classy.
>>
>>7624758
>>7621479

I am mostly interested in knowing if I should start training daily instead of every second day
>>
>>7624779
What was the hairstyle and lipstick colour?
>>
>>7624774
>>7624779
For real? Proof on this?

If so that's fucked and makes me want to leave that server.
>>
>>7624772
fucking racist bigot
>>
>>7624627
Devote yourself to Hedonism and Indulgence, then Slaanesh will reward you. Just be warned, things tend to have diminishing returns, its not that things dont feel as good- you just find yourself wanting more. In other words, there's never enough.

>>7624645
Well we don't now that yet, we're both going to live for some time yet. Surely youll get away from the south eventually.

>>7624665
You're cold, Birdie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXGPZaTKik

But I know that isn't true. We both know you've thought of me with longing since the last time we talked, you're just upset and trying to hurt me. Also we've been over this, I've always been this way, I just kept it lowkey before we were good friends.
I'd forgive you, if you apologized. Id apologize for what Id done too.
>>
>>7624794
>>7624794
>>7624794
>>
>>7624790
That black Woman agreed and corrected him
>>
>>7624789
idk you can ask red/faye/don't remember who else they were the ones assaulted

for the dorm stuff she tweeted about it red has screenshots of her twitter
>>
>>7624796
you mean after she criticized the fact he was carbon negative and then he destroyed her?
>>
>>7624779
Leaning on a bed? Maybe that was me
>>7624734
Ur my favorite kraut Ehueehue <3
>>7624776
Yeah
Honestly
Truly.....honestly....
>>
>>7624778
The doc used AIDS when he said it. He treats both AIDS and ME/CFS patients. The thing is when an AIDS patient's health declines they die relatively fast. With ME/CFS that state of incapacitation can last for years or even decades. I was declining in capacity, and figured out how to stop the decline. unfortunately I haven't been able to appreciably regain capacity to do things.
>>
if you had the choice between:

free surgery but not the best, in 3 years time
insurance covered surgery, p nice, having to pay $3k of it, in 2 years time
the best srs you want from a surgeon you like, pay full whack for it, this year

what would you choose
>>
>>7624889
easily the second option
3k isn't much especially to save over the course of 2 years
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