Who is the best SRS surgeon?

>>7600057
Anywhere in asia tbhonest

>>7600057
lmao not me im no surgeon at all hahaha

suporn :^)

>>7600057
Some people would say Suporn or Chettawut, dunno if they are any good personally

jeff

surgeon billy

>>7600057
depends, if you're mutilated probably bowers or mcginn, if you're not mutilated suporn or maybe chett

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Canadian's have no choice but Dr. Brussard in Montreal unless they want to go out of pocket.

Given how many he is doing these days it has supposedly gotten really good.

You know the more you do anything the better you are at it. He has a 1-2year relationship these days.

>>7600057
>Whos the best genital mutilator who makes regret be furthest out?

Fixed

>>7600515
that is rude

>>7600086
man me neither ohoho :^)

>>7600302
Are you referring to cut/uncut?

I got the chop only once so I can't compare but I am very happy with Brassard's work.

>>7600752
yes, mutilated/normal

>>7600533
Its kinda true, better surgeries mean suicide rates are ever so slightly lower, and delayed.

plenty commit suicide directly after surgery though

>>7600942
Genital Mutilator is a rude way to put it, even you admit that they help ease the symptoms of gender dysphoria

>>7600057
They all do more or less an equal job for sensitivity and most of the top ones do a good job with looks. Some offer some slight differences which may or may not be worth it.

It's hard to say who's the best for you without knowing more about you.

Small dick, no insurance, like travel, don't mind long recoveries? Go Suporn.

Don't mind costs/have the right insurance, want someone who touts himself as the best/only one that has an competency?, Care mostly about looks? Go to Meltzer.

Canadian? Cheap? Want the tried and true? Go Brassard.

Want another tranny to do the surgery? Need it NOW! Don't care about how it turns out as long as you don't have a dick? Go to Bowers or McGinn.

Want something kinda like Suporn but cheaper and maybe not as good? Go Chett.

Want something a normal surgeon would never do or already got a botched SRS nobody will touch? Want your SRS vagina turned back into a penis? Try Dr. Djordjevic, he'll do nearly anything... but not very well.

European, cheap, and want a vagina that'll make you suicidal? Go to a European surgeon. Seriously they suck.

Just go for one of the big names surgeons and you'll be fine.

>>7600479
That's not true. It depends on the province and you can get many american surgeons now. I got approved for meltzer recently but not suporn in ontario.

>>7601104
>Try Dr. Djordjevic, he'll do nearly anything... but not very well
hey, miro is brilliant [spoiler]for ftm metoidioplasty[/spoiler]

>>7601104
>Want another tranny to do the surgery? Need it NOW! Don't care about how it turns out as long as you don't have a dick? Go to Bowers or McGinn.

Are they really that bad? Lol I was thinking of going to Bowers but I'll try for better if she's not that great.

>>7601142
Look up her results yourself and decide. Imo her vaginas look like a slit with a penis head at the top.

>>7601149
So I should try to go to Meltzer? I probably don't have the right insurance though... But I don't have money for Thailand either.... Fuck this sucks, I just wanted SRS within the next two years but now it looks like that won't happen, and I'm getting kinda old now (I'm 22)

>>7601104
who else do you go to for srs reversal then?
is there a way to transport the glans of the penis back to the top?
i dont want a long penis, like 2 inches max, but whenever i am aroused i feel a lot of erectile tissue under

>>7601142
i've looked at her results before and they seem aesthetically decent with a few really good ones
i've seen several people complain about losing sensation and having freaky complications, though
and she's a pretty popular surgeon with a long waiting list, so if you want srs within a couple years look into mcginn (trained by her) or macphee (trained by mcginn) who are of similar quality with fewer freaky complications, mcginn's waiting list is short and i don't think macphee has one at all

>>7601162
Idk dude it's up to you. It's not hard to look them up.

Figure out how long it'll take to pay for a surgeon you want and decide if that's worth the years of not having a vagina just for a better one.

>>7601165
That's a bit of a joke but i read on susans about someone going to serbia to get it done. I just tied two and two together. From what I understand it's just the standard FTM surgery. No using actual 'penile' material. It'd be like having a weird arm between your legs that sometimes rubs against your clit which wouldn't move.

>>7601122
tfw alberta waiting for years on end

>>7601181
Dude free movment in the country. Move to Quebec, BC or Onario. You only need to stay a year or two.

>>7601179
yeah i looked into that too ):
i really dont want that, but ive never had genital dysphoria until after surgery.
i guess ill never be happy now
too bad i had it at 18 lmfao

>>7601179
>It'd be like having a weird arm between your legs that sometimes rubs against your clit which wouldn't move
phalloplasty is a lot better than that these days
they use microsurgery to hook up the nerves through the neopenis so you have erotic sensation throughout
there's actually a study comparing mtf and ftm bottom surgery results that found ftm had better sensation overall (expressed through 100% orgasmic capacity vs 85%), but i can't find it right now
metoidioplasty's still better though but that's not an option if you're mtftm because the neoclitoris isn't the same thing as a natal one

I thought Brassard's wait times weren't too bad though?

>>7601181
>>7601199

>>7601175
>>7601179
Well, I don't know... I do want my vagina to be the very best it can be. I'm pretty "trutrans" in a way that make me really anal about these things, and sometimes dysphoric for no reason, and I mean... This is the only vagina that I'll ever have, so...

I guess I'll just figure this out for myself.

>>7601194
Wow who did you go to? What happened?

>>7601184
I'd like to but that's not gonna be possible for me unless my boyfriend gets moved to ontario for his work later this year

>>7601199
>>7601203
they are pretty long, but that's ontop of waiting for my province to fund the surgery, which they only do 30 or so a year. I've already been waiting for over 2 years

>>7601208
just a series of bad circumstances, communication break downs, and 18 year old me not being to speak up for herself out of guilt/shame.
i remember crying in the hospital room the night before.
i was like such a minority there lmfao. everyone was so happy after!
and i met some cool chicks.
i guess my vagina looks really good, or so says suporn.

>>7601219
Huh. What about it bothers you? Just preferred your dick then?

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>>7600057

It's times like this I'm glad I have a penis so small I can literally invert it for maximum tuck. No SRS method is satisfactory to me. They all just leave you with a fuckhole. I want a womb, tho I doubt that'll ever be possible

>>7601257
>no Meltzer

Fuck, that's the one I was starting to get curious about.

Sorry those last two lists weren't up to date. Let me make a new one i guess.

>>7601265
Brassard is best, Suporn is alright, the rest don't even approximate female anatomy.

>>7601265
wow, so weird how similar mine looks to danielle's.
>>7601245
yeah, i was indifferent at worst to my penis.
i had also never had sex.

>>7601273
Yeah I noticed that. Trannies really don't know what vaginas are supposed to look like, whereas "straight" men (chasers) do, that's kinda sad.

>>7601264
you'll have to get srs before you get your womb put in
>b-but stem cell vagina
yeah, they'll slightly advance the technique for the actual vaginal canal, the vulva, clitoris, etc will still be the same surgery

>>7601287
This. Even if medicine makes a full, true sex change possible one day, having SRS now won't really hurt your ability to do that.

>>7601273
>>7601285
If you guys are talking about Mia Fever she's misattributed. Her surgeon is actually Meltzer. That's why I'm remaking the links right now.

>>7601287
>>7601293
Meh, I took a vow of celibacy anyways, so I don't give a shit what's between my legs. Maybe someday I'll look into it, but I can't reconcile being off work for a month or more just to have aesthetically pleasing genitals

>>7601306
Dude... What?

Do you realize how much safer SRS makes you in a shitload of situations? I don't want to get murdered just because some guy decides to try and rape me and then finds out I don't have the genitals he expected, also I want to be able to swim without worrying about this shit, etc etc.

It sounds like you're just making excuses, "a month off work"? Lol

>>7601312
lmfao wtf is ur issue
dont bully someone into srs. ):
YOURE THE PROBLEM REEEEEEE

>>7601320
Sorry, I just got majorly triggered by "meh, what's the use of taking a month off work just for """aesthetically pleasing genitals"""" as if that's the only reason someone would want to have SRS.

NSFW post op SRS:
Brassard: http://imgur.com/a/MzE9H
Chett: http://imgur.com/a/sBOy5
Bowers: http://imgur.com/a/Fjwez
McGinn: http://imgur.com/a/hGn9b
Meltzer: http://imgur.com/a/amU9m
Suporn: http://imgur.com/a/ysEaR
Thesexchange.com horror samples: http://imgur.com/a/qnqlO
Misc: http://imgur.com/a/IS3Cw

>>7601388
Guess it's Suporn or Brassard. Bowers shouldn't even be able to operate on people, how can you even be content with that?

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>those results
All I want is for someone to go down on me one day and it looks like that'll never happen.

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>>7601388
even going to the best srs surgeon is like a shot in the dark. no amount of therapy can help me if I end up with a botched neovag.

>>7601455
Tbh Suporn, Brassard, and Meltzer look "good enough", the rest are trash tho. But if I really can't have someone eat me out like you said, I'll just go straight, marrying a man can't be SO bad.

>>7601467
Idk, I doubt they look good enough for cis girls. I really don't want to have to deal with a guy though, guys are 10x harder to date.

>>7601388
yfw some of them look halfway between preditor, and shit from halflife

>>7601467
>marrying a man
>as a trans

yeah, that cant end bad at all.

>>7601455
>>7601500
I figure I'll never be able to convince someone it's a cis vagina but I think i'd just say I'm one of those cis girls born without a proper vagina and they did surgery on me when i was younger.

I think most people that like you would say 'oh bbe it's ok' As long as you're not a dirty tranny.

>>7601500
Idk, there are no cis girls on here so we can't know. It's probably true that guys are harder to date tho, I feel you on that, it seems like they'd be more likely to freak out after you come out to them. And the ones who wouldn't (numales etc) probably aren't worth your time. It's just a shitty situation.

All I know is that I'm not settling for another MtF, and I'm probably not even settling for an FtM either.

>>7601508
I would obviously tell him I was trans after a month or two.

>>7601522
Actually now that I think about it, I'll revise my statement: I have no idea when I would tell him, if I had already gotten SRS. Then it wouldn't feel so urgent. I would probably still tell him eventually tho. Maybe. Probably.

>>7601522
>And the ones who wouldn't (numales etc) probably aren't worth your time
This. I'd rather just go full homo with one of my friends even if it wouldn't be a very sexually fulfilling relationship, rather than deal with some beta who is barely a man anyways.

>>7601539
The only good thing about this post is that you will never marry any cis man because none of them will be into you.

Like do you even realize you're planning on doing a bait and switch? Wait until you've locked him in marriage to reveal your true disgusting nature?
Like jesus, it's not enough for you trannies to be ugly on the outside, you also have to be ugly on the inside?

>>7600057
i would sayCchettawut because he has ruberstamp shrinks working for him.If you pay them, they write your approval letters, even with no RLE

Whereas Suporn, not only has over a year waiting list, but also requires legit therapist letters, wich usually means at least 2 years of RLE

>>7601622
Nobody offers their hand in marriage after two months or even a year, except fuckin weirdos, calm down. It would never come to that.

Also, what do you mean a "bait and switch"? My "true disgusting nature", wth? I mean yeah it would be a shitty thing to do, because you're basically lying to your partner, or more like withholding very important information about yourself and your past. But it's not like I would be a completely different person from how I presented myself up to that point, I would still be the same girl he knew all along.

>>7601649
Suporns therapist jus makes you draw a house and that somehow allows you to get the letter. He only requires one from you're own country.

>>7601522
>being trans
>expecting people to settle for you
>refusing to settle for you

Entitled, hypocrite much?

>>7601122
In both British Colombia and Nova Scotia They have told everyone Montreal is the only option.

>>7601703
>requires letter from you're own country
ahg see thats where im fucked, as far as i know most Aus psycs force you to social transition for two years before writing the letter :(
Also it realy bothers me that i cant find many chet results, there is so much porn of suporn patients though, but i imagine their results would be like the top tier minoiity

>>7601729
Just because I can't be a "high value" cis girl or whatever, doesn't mean I'm going to settle for autistic weirdos who act like fuckboys and have a hilariously warped view of what it means to be a woman. Just look in /mtfg/ and you'll see what I mean, it's gross. Besides, dating another MtF as an MtF is like telling your friends and family, "yeah I wasn't good enough to be validated by a cis person in a relationship, sorry".

I know it's hypocritical, but really what other choice do I have? Like I said, I can't be a cis girl. I wish I could do something to make it up to my partners, apologize for the fact that I'm trans somehow, but the only thing I can really do is assimilate as best I can and try to be good enough for them.

>>7601961
um... i think you replied to the wrong person

>>7601764
Couldn't you just lie to them?

>>7602030
they normally require document evidence

>>7601500
ftm here if that counts for anything. most of suporns are convincing, brassard's are passable. rest are garbage

>>7602103
Do you think it's worth getting? Or is suicide/celibacy a better option?

>>7602178
different ftm, but i think srs is worth getting (and bottom surgery for ftms, which i've researched pretty intensely over the past few years and concluded is far better than the memes)
though i like trans girls but not dicks, so my opinion is skewed
i should also note the bowers results, at least, are mostly pretty old and she's gotten better -- everyone's improved over the past couple years because they have so many more patients

>>7602178
Yes. You won't be clocked by your vagina if your surgeon is decent. With decent surgery, they'll assume you just have an odd looking vag. Most people are unaware of how SRS looks and don't look that hard. Besides, not having a dick would make you happier.

what's Suporn charging nowadays?

>>7602238
$15,000

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>>7600057

>Unironically contemplating SRS

Don't do it mane.

>>7602186
There was a 420chan result that looked the same unfortunately

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>>7600057
how can i get letter for SRS without going girl mode?

i want a Suporn vagina and need to stay closeted in guymode while i earn enough money to afford it.

>>7601328
Dude, "aesthetics" are all SRS is worth to me. If it's more valuable to you than that, I'm not trying to take that away from you or anyone. I just don't think SRS is a one-size fits all procedure for trans people. I used to be way more adamant about getting it done, but I have really mixed feelings on it after speaking to many people who've done it, and just the more I research it the less motivated I am.

I don't have any support and barely started putting together a savings after living paycheck to paycheck for the last seven months. A month off work or more would literally leave me homeless, not to mention my current insurance wouldn't come close to making the procedure affordable. And besides all that, all surgery has very serious risks associated with it. I'm a little astonished at how gung-ho you are about it, but it's been made clear that we feel differently about this topic anyways. I'd rather spend that money getting laser, or fixing all the cheapskate fillings I got when I was younger because my family was poor and I was retarded about dental hygiene until relatively recently

>>7606808
Suporn literally doesn't give a shit if you are girlmode or not. Just say it wasn't possible for whatever reason.

>>7606848
>I'm a little astonished at how gung-ho you are about it,

I'm already 22, I can't afford to waste that much more time. If I don't have a vagina before the time I'm 30, how can I pretend my experience, my life, was even comparable to that of a cis woman's? I want to have kids someday, and I would probably be too ashamed to go through with it if I put off SRS any longer than I already have, I would look back on my life and be too afraid that I couldn't raise my kids correctly, that I would make a shit mom.

Honestly, I'm already ashamed of not getting it at 17 or 18.

>>7606896
This is the most trutrans thing I've read all day.

Also I'm 21, totally in the same boat. I'm in a state that forces insurance to pay for it, yet for some dumb reason I put it off for a bit. At least I know I'll have it done by 22/23.

>>7606896
I'm 26 in about six weeks. I think I blew right past the point you're at and have accepted my status as a hon

>>7606915
I am trutrans to an almost detrimental degree, so yeah. The worst thing I could do was put it off, and yet that's exactly what I did, because I'm a sad sack who figured I would just never make enough money. But I'm done with that shit.

Who are you getting it with?

>>7606949
I'm actually just starting the process, so I don't know who I'm going to go with yet. I'm afraid the bajillion hons clogging up the system are going to make wait times unbearable, I know some of the Thai doctors have 18 month waits right now.

>I am trutrans to an almost detrimental degree, so yeah. The worst thing I could do was put it off, and yet that's exactly what I did, because I'm a sad sack who figured I would just never make enough money
Me irl

>>7606967
>18 month waits

Just fuck me, fuck everything. I mean if I got everything sorted RIGHT NOW, then yeah I would be able to get it when I'm 23, which is fine. Not ideal, but respectable. But there's no way I'm gonna be able to get the money together in any reasonable amount of time.

Wait, would your insurance cover Thai surgery, what state do you live in?

>>7606997
>Wait, would your insurance cover Thai surgery, what state do you live in?
It doesn't cover Thai surgery, I was just curious so I could see all my options.

I live in Washington state which doesn't allow healthcare providers to exclude trans healthcare.

>>7607011
Hm, okay. After this thread, I'm obviously not going to Bowers or McGinn, I'm going to have to go with Suporn or try my luck with Brassard probably. I do wish there were better methods, but getting the best I can get for now is more important.

>>7607033
Meltzer seems like an option, plus there might be other American surgeons worth looking into.

>>7607036
Meltzer looks good to me too, I actually liked the look of his results better than Brassard's, but none of the FtMs mentioned him lol. So I figured maybe my eyes were broken, but it still looks good to me.

Idk I'll figure it out, the real problem is the money. :/

>>7607050
Well if you get insurance that actually pays for it, money probably won't be a huge concern (out of pocket maxes tend to be around 5-6k, not too much to save).

>>7606808
Just go to your shrink in girlmode and convince them that you are. Its not like they can really verify that you doing it 24/7.

>>7607359
well i was thinking of using an online shrink.

Apparently the major surgeons accept srs letters from Dr. Grahm Peveller who does cheap online therapy sesions. I wonder if i could just say to him im in girl mode and he would believe it? or whether i need proof or something...

>>7606896
If having a surgically created vagina is that important to you so you can compare your life to cox women, you have issues that surgery won't fix. Particularly feeling shameful of having kids if you don't have that artificial vagina for long enough. Raising your kids correctly means being a good parent, which is irrespective of having a dick or vag down below.

>>7607429
b..but what if the nipple stimulation from breast feeding gives me a bonner?

anyone from germany here who got their surgery through insurance? i don't have the money for suporn for many more years so i'm thinking about going to kreger in essen. anybody who went to her?

>>7606896
you should rethink your reasons about why you want SRS. it's a serious body altering procedure that should only be done so that you feel more comfortable with your body. if your only reason to get it is because you feel inferior to cis women your issues might only have very little to do with genital dysphoria and you may regret SRS soon after. i'd talk to a therapist and think about wether SRS is really necessessary and how else my problems can be addressed if i'd be you.

>>7601738
Move dummy.

>>7601764
In Perth I got my letter on the 3rd psych visit (over 2 months).

>>7600057
Damn D.W. is looking hot as fuck now

>>7607429
>>7608144
I already listed many other reasons why I need SRS, including genital dysphoria. Before transition, I had older MTFs try to tell me that I might not be trans, that I was just an attention seeker, that I shouldn't self-med because I might regret it. Now my only regret is that I didn't start earlier.

The truth is, I don't need other trans women to patronize me and judge my personal decisions, just like I don't need that from ignorant cis people. I honestly don't trust other trans women, most of my suicide attempts were caused by them, they make it harder for me to assimilate with every passing year, and they didn't want me to a voice for them even back when I wanted to be an activist. They have hindered my progress every step of the way, and I'm not going to let that happen anymore.

>>7613426
name of psyc? also did you have to prove how long you had already social transitioned?

im in albany btw :(

>>7613532
Dr Geetha Menon, Cockburn Gp Medical.
I just showed up in girlmode. Lied and said I went fulltime a year before my srs was booked for.

I also got a second letter from Debra Roberts at serenity on south. She knew I wasnt full time but lied about it on the letter.

Mike Pence.

>who is the best genital mutilator
200,000 years of evolution to get to this point...

>>7613648
ah cool thanks for the infor!

how long did you see debra for?

i wonder if the age of the patient and how long they have been on hormones affects how long they asses you before writing the letter hmm...

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>>7613648
>Cockburn
Anyways I'm stuck in dubbo, could I convince a therapist in sydney to give me the recommendation in 1 visit as I can't exactly afford the travel.

>>7613737
Started seeing deb in mid 2015. Was mostly seeing her to build up confidence to come out to parents. Turns out shes a friend with Suporn, so helps you to sort out everything you need for him.

>>7613754
Maybe you could try to do a few skype sessions and then a one on one?

>>7607050
i have medical through kaiser and they covered it 100% for me

>>7601104
>European, cheap, and want a vagina that'll make you suicidal? Go to a European surgeon.
Agree. French surgeons associated to the """"official transition"""" are butcher and their results are ugly.

Anyone even heard of dr Sinclair in Beverly hills? He is the only one my insurance covers

>>7615747
Looks like a few positive reviews on susans / LP. No self lubrication though.

>>7615529
Which surgeon? Meltzer?

>>7615747
Kayla you just need a hole whoever it is.