Would MTFs here date an FTM and vice versa for FTMs?

>>7593420
Yes, if there was chemisty

>>7593423
this. at least for me

>>7593442
Im mtf but would date ftm
Or mtf

>>7593420
I'm ftm and I'd date mtf. They're cute and understand what I go through somewhat

>>7593420
hey ftms

would you like a feminine benis in your masculine vagina?

>>7593423
I think the chemistry is interesting between an MTF and FTM. Two people with the opposite transition.
I rarely see MTF and FTM couples but when I do come across it, they always seem to be pretty strong relationships.

>>7593456
thats cute, i feel that

>>7593460
sure why not

>>7593466
what really?

how long on T are you?

I thought ftms wouldn't like that

>>7593476
I haven't started T. I wouldn't let a cis guy do it, but a cute girl is a cute girl. I have the parts I have so I might as well use them sometimes

>>7593484
huh.

okay then.

[spoiler]that sounds very hot[/spoiler]

>>7593460
I'm FTM. I wouldn't mind being penetrated, if she was into it. I don't have much dysphoria about my bagina.

>>7593484
>>7593500
but would you guys let a transgirl impregnate you though?

>>7593505
I'm >>7593476
And no probably not, pregnancy scares the fuck out of me. (I'd adopt kids with her tho)

>>7593505
I'm MtF and that's fucking gross dude.

>>7593512
Sorry I fucked up, I'm the first reply

>>7593500
There isn't much FTM on MTF porn but this one amateur video of an FTM riding an MTF is one of the cutest videos ever.

>>7593505
I wouldn't but there was this trans guy on facebook who had two babies with his trans wife. So some are into it I guess..

>>7593516
stop being so AGP anon. its pure love in the making

>>7593521
I mean, it'd be hot for an MTF to cum inside me. Would have to both be on hormones though when we're both sterile.

Ftm on Mtf is truest form of love

>>7593537
where you at?

>>7593521
I have penetrated a trans guy once before, but even thinking about impregnating someone, or how the guy would feel in that situation, is terrifying to me. That's the opposite of pleasuring your partner, which is the only reason I agreed to it in the first place.

MtF married to a FtM here, this thread makes me smile.

>>7593563
Yeah what even. I couldn't imagine putting him through that. I mean we don't have me doing any penetration either which is what I'd prefer but still. This is why I didn't bother saving or freezing anything.

>>7593584
how did you meet him?

>>7593584
how old are you guys?

I don't think there's many people out there I wouldn't date

As a fucked up person, I can't really be a chooser

>>7593601
hey anon would you date me?

>>7593549
I agree. All I mostly see are trans people with cis people or MTFs with other MTFs. Sad!

>>7593584
Thats great to hear. I hope I can marry an MTF someday, prefer them to cis girls any day and I'm not into men desu.

>>7593618
trump?

>>7593588
We met through an online forum. I eventually left everything behind and crossed from US East Coast to US West Coast to live with him.

>>7593599
I'm 26, he's 28

>>7593618
and I'm glad to hear that anon, I think there's a lot of MtFs that would be better with someone to love and understand them. And it's nice to have a strong guy around that remembers how it felt to be so weak. I mean, I'm still like 90% into women but fuck when he picks me up or I squeeze the muscles on his arms it's heavenly. FtMs are amazing.

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>>7593619
Y-yes?

>>7593420
Heck yes, but no manlets. 5'7 and over plz.

>>7593678
Hm yeah, I'd like to be that kind of a 'protector' to a transgirl. Whenever I hear a trans girl complain about dates not going well with cis guys and shits I feel like telling them to just find a trans guy. Sure there are assholes in every group but I'm willing to bet most trans guys will be more understanding than a cis guy would be. Not on the cis hate bandwagon but just cis people just will never fully understand trannies.

>>7593707
You're not going to have much luck there. Tallest transguy I've met was like 5'6. Probably the tallest transguys will be black guys.

I a MTF Lesbian, and because I see trans dudes as dudes I don't think I could ever be in a relationship with one.

That being said I have seen some cute FTM, and I don't know if I am still just seeing the femininity in some of them or what but there is something. They often just seem put together.

My girlfriend is cis /Bi and pretty butch/femme alternating (but more butch leaning) it is pretty confusing but we hit it off so who knows.

>>7593420
I wouldn't date a mtf who hadn't had bottom sugery but post op mtf > cis girl

>>7593749
That's fair. There are a lot of faggy FTMs that still look/act fem and just come across as butch lesbians.

>>7593781
I'm the opposite. I wouldn't date an MTF with bottom surgery. Not a fan of vag in general but fake vag has got to be worse.

>>7593796
>I'm the opposite. I wouldn't date an MTF with bottom surgery. Not a fan of vag in general but fake vag has got to be worse.

So you're a chaser then? An FtM chasing MtFs?

Now I've seen everything.

>>7593739
I'm 5'7 and 18 yo, hoping to grow at least another inch or two on t.

>>7593802
Eh, I'd still date a cis girl if the right one came along but yeah, I'm more attracted to trans girls.

>>7593815
I don't think that's how it works.

>>7593796
Considering that gynecologists can't tell the difference between a good neo vag and the real thing in most cases I think your being a massive idiot.

>>7593872
This board is violently opposed to SRS because it's mostly chasers and AGPs

>>7593872
I've seen neovags, they don't look the same. Not saying the results are particularly bad; better than FTM bottom surgery but you can obviously spot the parts where it looks off. Lets not lie to ourselves here.

>>7593897
Please elaborate.

If it actually looks too different, I will actually just give up. I want to see/hear this from an AFAB, I trust their opinions far more than I do AMABs on matters like these.

>>7593815
I'm late 20's. I'd feel like a pedo dating you. :[ Go make some lucky mtf happy anon.

>>7593815
im 19 pls date me

>>7593912
The slit always looks so thin and weird looking. There are many types of vaginas yeah, but I've never seen a bio vagina look so tight and thin like that. Maybe some people would be 'fooled' by it I guess.
And no, I don't want to discourage anyone from having surgery if they want to; its just not what I find attractive. If it makes you feel better about yourself who gives a fuck what I or anyone else born a woman thinks.

>>7593968
No I mean if it doesn't look like a natal vagina, I will just kill myself. However, I haven't actually seen this problem you're talking about, I always seem to be paranoid that it's the opposite. Is it really too "thin"? Hmm, I'll have to do more research.

>>7593996
I had bottom surgery. It won't get you clocked, but it is tighter than a natal vaginal. It's work keeping the muscles loose. Otherwise, it's a hell of a lot better than having a penis IMO.

>>7593945
I'm a year younger than that anon. I'm OP.

>>7594107
underage bait get outtttttttttttttt reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>7594132
Shit, you blew my cover

>>7594144
im not a pedo anon

>>7594152
That wouldn't be what the definition of a pedophile is but ok i guess

>>7594247
tbqh ill date you when you are 18

>>7594253
Wasn't looking for a date. Trying to date people from 4chan has not been a positive experience for me or anyone else it seems.

I am dating an FtM. It's the best thing that ever happened to me. I don't need to be weird around him about my tranny stuff and he never winces about my gender. Plus, I was lucky enough to find someone who shares a ton of interests with me and is even politically and theologically similar to me.

>>7594065
Okay. As long as it won't clock me, I'm fine with it.

>>7593423
This for me too
I'm MtF and having an FtM boyfriend could turn out to be awesome

>>7593420
yes
i've been talking to a really cute trans girl from here but my crippling anxiety got in the way
>>7593912
they look fine
they're a bit differently placed i guess if i wanted to nitpick
you can be stealth in relationships if you're straight assuming everything else is fine, probably not if you're lesbian but i bet you could go on a couple dates with a terf and not have her know

I'm ftm and my girl is mtf. It's pretty cool except she's taller than me, but then so are most cis girls.

funny enough I'm MTF and I dated a FTM but we both transitioned after we broke up so this isn't really what OP is looking for

>>7594496
I'm 5'4 myself, its very unlikely I'd find a transgirl shorter than me or around the same height. In a way, its weird to be the dominant one in the relationship and be short as fuck.

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MTF here, personally my biggest concern is height. I'm almost 6' tall but that would probably not make it very hard to find a guy at least my height. However FTMs tend to be way shorter than cis males and I'm not sure if I would be comfortable dating someone much shorter than me. Additionally the lack of functional penis might disappoint me.

>>7594629
What's wrong with short guys? I think we're ok.

And we have to make up for not having a penis by discovering other ways to pleasure people. Foreplay is more important to most women.

>>7593420
No, FTMs are an abomination, the incarnation of the corrupting effects of testosterone.

>>7596213
Estrogen is the real evil. Emotions (puke). Being weak (puke).

>>7593537
>Would have to both be on hormones though when we're both sterile.
lol hormones don't necessarily make you sterile.

>>7593420
I'd date an ftm, but not a cis guy, so I'm pretty sure that disqualifies me.

>>7593420
MtF

No.
Obviously I can't tell in case I would really fall for him, but in general, no I wouldn't.

>>7596261
I know that. There is still a small chance of getting pregnant on T, but for the most part on hormones you're not capable of reproducing.

wait, im 19 and been on bica and e for about a month. whats progesterone and should I be on it?

>>7593826
>>I don't think that's how it works.
Yes it is. You can still grow taller after 18.

>>7593739
there are lots of manlets, thats true, but i've also met lots of ftm 5'8" and up (the leader of them being 6'0")

MtF

Possible cons:
>If he is very short. A little shorter is fine but a lot shorter is weird.
>Dysphoria weirdness, if we are comfortable and uncomfortable with different things.

Pros:
>Can't have children and neither can I, so no one is holding the other back in that regard.
>Unless he is ashamed of being trans he probably won't be ashamed of having a trans gf either

If none of the pros apply then an FtM boyfriend is preferable over a cis boyfriend.

I'd really like to date a ftm, because we'd be able to understand what each other is going through better and also because they can be pretty damn hot
Also you'd be pretty sure they're not a chaser, they'd know you see them as a real man and you'd know they see you as a real woman
Also since we'd both be infertile arranging having kids and adoption is simpler
They're also probably into nerdy stuff and anime
Really the only issue would be if they're really small. I want a bf who is at least a similar height to me and looks like he could protect me

>>7596665
You made it seem like you were expecting T to make you taller.

>>7597192
I wasn't them, and testosterone can make you taller if you're young enough. Like I said before: if cis males and even cis women grow taller after 18 then FtMs on testosterone will be able to as well.

>>7597205
>>7597192
Though the age at which you stop growing differs for everybody of course; some FtMs won't grow anymore at 18.

>>7597205
Height and testosterone aren't correlated.

>>7596887
>They're also probably into nerdy stuff and anime
I think this one is incorrect. Just like MtFs are into traditionally male hobbies, FtMs are into traditionally female hobbies.

>>7597240
What would be traditionally female hobbies? Just curious because I'm FTM and I can't think of any besides like cooking or knitting and I've never known any FTMs to really be into that. Most FTMs grew up tomboys I've seen, me included. So I am into vidya and shit, it was the only way for me to express being male really.

>>7597240
only true for a*ps for the most part, though the general distribution is still a bit biased due to socialization
also, all trannies are nerdy weebs no matter which direction, hsts/a*p just influences what anime they watch

>>7597240
A person growing up as female is allowed to do male things, the other way not so much. MtFs end up with more male hobbies because they are not allowed into female domains.

>>7597291
>a*ps
Why are you referencing a 4chan-invented disorder?

>>7597291
>hsts/a*p just influences what anime they watch

This is getting to autistic levels of "muh socialization" now

>>7597342
>4chan-invented
what
>the specific word 'autogynephilia' was developed as a term for a spectrum of sexualities in the 80s
>the knowledge that trans people come in types, usually around 2, where the 'late-onset'/'heterosexual'/'variant' type is identical to blanchard's agp (which weren't even called 'autogynephiles' but 'nonhomosexuals' just like every previous typology) long predates that
what do you want the type that 70-90% of western transsexed women and almost all of the ones who go on male-dominated online communities are to be called instead?

>>7597385
Oh, sorry. Blanchard's theory has been abandoned which has been pointed out countless times on this board already. I assumed you subscribed to the special "even if Blanchard was wrong you can still be attracted to yourself!" theory that /agpgen/ subscribes to, which is something that was invented on this board.

>what do you want the type that 70-90% of western transsexed women and almost all of the ones who go on male-dominated online communities are to be called instead?
"Transsexual"

>>7597423
>Blanchard's theory has been abandoned
for political reasons moreso than research ones
unless you've read the scientific literature (dumping the transsexualism google docs link here doesn't work because we both know nobody here has read every-goddamn-paper-ever-done) you can't really speak to the accuracy of the typology
i used to be a nonbeliever too, but it just doesn't fit with the data
>"Transsexual"
yeah, and what do you do when treating all transsexed people as having the same condition miserably fails like it does for a lot of young hsts people? you can see the same problem in public relations deals where cis people get their perception of the condition from 76gender tumblr girls, except instead of making someone laugh it off and then never think about it again it screws permanently with their perception of their own situation

>>7597445
>hsts
Can you tell me what this is?

>except instead of making someone laugh it off and then never think about it again it screws permanently with their perception of their own situation
That's what you're doing. You convince young transsexuals that they are actually agp scum who shouldn't transition. Even if that isn't your intention it's working.

I always go with the medical consensus since I'm not educated enough to disagree with it. And I suspect that neither are you.

>>7597464
>Can you tell me what this is?
'homosexual transsexual', the term used by everyone before blanchard -- and thus also blanchard -- to refer to the group of trans people whose transsexualism exists alongside strong behavioural shifts so that they naturally act like the opposite natal sex (this is not the same as being 'effeminate' or 'butch', which is one of my major divergences from blanchard -- i'd argue they're two separate types of trans people, though that the distinction is only important on the ftm end because the population distribution of types is different by category)
>You convince young transsexuals that they are actually agp scum who shouldn't transition. Even if that isn't your intention it's working.
if you had read anything about blanchard's typology that is not a derivative of the james-conway-mccloskey arguments, you would know that not only is that the opposite of any reasonable interpretation, but that the 'blanchard was wrong' argument hurts young agp women as much as it helps or more
>I always go with the medical consensus since I'm not educated enough to disagree with it. And I suspect that neither are you.
this is the subject of my undergraduate thesis, friend

>>7597489
>homosexual transsexual

just use 'transbian' like everyone else
and gay ftms are just gay men for all intents and purposes.