How do cis guys view mtfs compared to cis girls?

>>7590480
As bags of trash-juice, when compared to fresh pears.

to be honest, i'm into mtf girls if they still have a penis, and if she is versatile.

>>7590482
Continuing this analogy, it'd be kind of like the tesco everyday value concentrate orange juice vs the nice not from concentrate branded stuff

Orange juice is orange juice tho

>>7590500
Instant coffee versus ground coffee maybe. We're instant coffee, because we're not real coffee and only low-income degenerates could possibly prefer us.

>>7590483
gtfo

>>7590480

Steadily improving desu. I have reached a point now where I have completely stopped trusting women, and not only because of the internet anti-feminism talking points, but real life encounters that have oozed right into my own family.

I don't want to sound mean, but if I was going to date a mtf, she would have to be passing to almost passing no doubt. I'm attracted to the feminine form, it's just too bad the feminine form more often then not comes with a poisoned brain.

>>7590480
As a bisexual cis guy, I find the idea of a cute girl with a cute penis very attractive. However my experience has been that mtfs are rarely cute. I prefer fucking cis women or gay men.

>>7590480
I'm bi, but I'm not picky enough to care if a girl has a penis or not, or if she's on titty skittles.

>>7590480
>MtF

Whiny faggots who couldn't handle being a man and decided they wanted to try living life on easy mode, unaware of the fact that they'll never actually achieve their goal.

>FtM

Individuals who should be recognized for willingly attempting to take on the increased societal burden of being a man.

t. cis white male

>>7590509
Look if we're doing this accurately it's more like:


>men coffee
>women milk
>mtfs latte
>ftms tea

Distinct but similar and the imitation is more obvious.

while i do prefer mtfs to cis girls, I don't chase. i pretty much treat them as if they were cis.

>>7590483
Found the closet gay.

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>>7590480
If you're only capable of feeling pure love, then you can only fall in line with being attracted to MTFs.

>>7591209
How is tea at all similar to coffee? At least lattes actually have milk in them.

>>7590483

What >>7591295 said.

>>7591209
>mfw mtf
>barista
>i am latte

>>7591345
You might mistake tea for coffee or an especially creamy latte for just milk

>>7591490
What kind of mongoloid mistakes tea for coffee? This was a bad metaphor

>>7590480
I'll try to explain it. From the point of view of someone in a community that is on the more wealthy side.

Cis women aren't human in the eyes of men. They're more like wild animals, or wrathful gods. We don't understand them. They are very much like aliens to us. To tame a woman is the greatest challenge a man has in this age, and it's seen as a sign of strength and manliness to be able to keep one. They are valuable prizes we covet for our entire lives. To have a woman is to be a complete man.

But MtFs are not revered like cis women are. They are seen as objects. Things to be used and then thrown away, or just avoided in most cases. They are whores that are not worthy of true love. Trash, pretty much. It's very shameful for a man to date an MtF. It's seen like you weren't good enough to get the real thing so you went for a bad imitation instead out of desperation. A man who dates trangenders is like a sexual deviant.

If you are an MtF and reading this don't let it discourage you. There are men out there that will give you the love you need, but society as a whole will be disgusted by you behind their friendly smiling faces.

>>7591575
second this

>>7590480
I'm a butch cisbian and have only ever heard men make fun of mtfs and use them to trick eachother into accidentally saying something gay

as for myself i relate to some of the societal difficulties trans people face from dressing or acting gender nonconformingly, and i think you're strong people

however, your bodies weird me out and i cant help but think of you as fake imitations

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All the worse qualities of woman without the natural curves and vagina.

Compared to a real woman the dick is all they have going for them, and they want to cut that off.

>>7590480
>beta male qualities
>shitty attention seeking female qualities
>doughy male bodies with huge ribcages and weird cone tits
>no sweet walls
>all they have to penetrate is a stretched out hole that they shit out of

it seems like trans girls want straight guys who will treat you just like a cis girl. unfortunately most straight guys aren't progressive/educated enough to extend that courtesy to you, and the ones who are usually aren't as masculine as the dude you *really* want

>>7591575
wtf
Cis women operate with a different set of logic than men, which makes them seem contradictory and confusing. However, biology makes them attracted to women both physically and mentally, so they have to put up with their shenanigans if they don't want to live in autistic depression the rest of their lives.
A well passing mtf looks like a cute girl but acts differently. Pre-ops also have dicks, so it's a win win.

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>>7591640
I wish it weren't, but it's true...

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>>7591622
>>7591640
>All the worse qualities of women without the natural curves and vagina
>doughy male bodies with huge ribcages and weird cone tits

Lol

>>7590480
Honestly, i view them as a mental patients. I'll never acknowledge them as a real cis girls but as guy who has a tranny phase.

>>7590483
>and if she is versatile.
F A G G O T

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>>7591575
>but society as a whole will be disgusted by you behind their friendly smiling faces.
I am HONestly okay with this since I don't care what stupid normies think as long as they are polite about it.

>There are men out there that will give you the love you need
That's all I need tbqh. Others can go fuck themselves to death for all I care.

>>7591575
>man who dates transgender
it feels like he's a man who needs another challenge and he's not genuine into mtf's.

>>7591760
>implying he meant early transitioners
Most trannies you generally meet fit the criteria. They are 20-something skinnyfat fridgebod losers with beta male mentality mixed with the most shittiest female qualities possible.

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>>7591796
I just want a man too, babe. I get so lonely.

>>7591811

Yeah sometimes I watch tranny porn and if you ignore the face it just looks like a dude

>>7591866
Yeah, I have the same problem actually. My face is cute and passable but my body is downright repulsive and manly.
I wish I could just live as a head in a jar so that guys aren't disgusted by me, lol.

>>7591879
at least personally, i feel like having a cute face is all that really matters and i'm sure i'm not alone in that so...silver linings?

>>7591505
If they're both black they look very similar

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>>7591879

>>7591924
Yuck.

>>7591811
Well okay. Generalizations just rub me the wrong way I guess.

>>7591924
Lol what is up with this person? Is that really their face?

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>>7590483
A Wild CHASER Appeared!

>>7591924
You're a big gal.

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>>7591934

some trap porn thing, his dick is beautiful and the face is decent to me.

>>7591975
I'm saying it looks like a girl's face on a man's body, although here his face looks weird too.

>>7591975
nasty crackwhore with a giant forehead

>>7591168
Manchildren like you are sad, stop making the gender look like a bunch of overgrown kids.

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>>7591168
>Whiny faggots who couldn't handle being a man and decided they wanted to try living life on easy mode, unaware of the fact that they'll never actually achieve their goal.

Women live life in "easy mode" simply because they are cuter. Same thing applies to cute boys (and I mean genuinely cute and child-like, in a way that elicits the maternal instincts of strangers, not faggy-looking like 16 year old justin bieber)

Most MtFs never reach "easy mode" because they are scary hons, or only become tall masculine women with strong facial features instead of a cute little girl

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>>7592345
>Women live life in "easy mode" simply because they are cuter.
>or only become tall masculine women with strong facial features instead of a cute little girl

Being cute is overrated then.

>>7592345
>everyone treats me nicer
>even incompetence at work is excused
>cute face but tall af at 5'10

I don't think it's just cute little girl types.

>>7591575
>Cis women aren't human in the eyes of men. They're more like wild animals, or wrathful gods. We don't understand them. They are very much like aliens to us. To tame a woman is the greatest challenge a man has in this age, and it's seen as a sign of strength and manliness to be able to keep one. They are valuable prizes we covet for our entire lives. To have a woman is to be a complete man.

Stuff like this makes me wish I were into women way more. Anyone who thinks like this can't be human.

>>7591975
Why are they wearing a pizza tho

>>7591945
>for u

>>7590480
>How do cis guys view mtfs compared to cis girls?
cis girls -> looks right, what your mind and body are attracted to on all different levels.
mtfs -> uncanny valley-teir. Something is always off or weird, overtly or subconsciously; something is always off putting.

There is a reason that the term "trap" came about and has spread to not only refer to the original traps but also to trannies. Seeing a peen where a vag is supposed to be is very upsetting to most cis males who are not expecting it. Wanting to see a penis where a vag should be takes a special kind of bisexual or "str8" guy (obviously) and is basically fetish-tier. I know I'm not saying anything revolutionary/super insightful here. I would say that most trannies instinctively already know this b/c of their dislike for chasers and why they seem to always be after cis people (guys and girls) as some sort of validation for themselves.

>>7590483
This desu. No dick is kind of a deal breaker.

>>7591811
How do you get rid of beta male mentality in exchange for beta female mentality?

>>7590480
>How do cis guys view mtfs compared to cis girls?

"mtfs" are biological men

"cis girls" are biological women

>>7591622
>>7591640
>>7591760
truth

>>7590483

Funny how much this guy was attacked and ridiculed just for stating his sexual preferences on an LGBT board lol

>>7597027
There isn't a difference

>>7590480
>Crazy
>Less attractive
>Absolutely shameless
>without morality
>Sex obsessed
>desperate.

>>7597922
Where can I get one

As a cis hetero-leaning bi male, I see myself connecting with and together with a trans girl much easier than with a cis girl.
Also if you really are gonna be my gf, I'll have to keep your clitty in a cage.
I'm not a chaser btw.

>>7598558
You'd probably run at the first sign they want SRS, or do everything you can to discourage them.

>>7598023
you want a nutjob who will leave you at a moments notice, and has so little shame they literally do not comprehend discretion?

>>7591209
>boys vodka

>>7598594
Wut.

How are MTFS latte? maybe a latte which is using immitation creamer...and FTMS are more like a 4 loco when it had caffiene

>>7598584
Sure

>>7598611
whenever you n the boys go out drinking its vodka
why drink coffee when youre getting wasted with the boys

>>7598584
>leave you at a moments notice

Wtf, even decent-looking trans girls have such low self-esteem that this probably won't happen. Did your trans gf dump you bro?

>>7598579
What makes you think that? I'd support my gf through just about anything short of her cucking me.

>>7598622
Have fun with everyone and their dog knowing you fucked a tranny

>>7598644
They are insecure, yes, one of the reasons they might leave.

It depends if they are promiscuous or not, ones who aren't might be loyal (but messes, because insecure) but slutty ones literally are incapable of caring for someone as soon as they have an issue.

>>7592345
>Most MtFs never reach "easy mode" because they are scary hons, or only become tall masculine women with strong facial features instead of a cute little girl
damn, some of y'all gettin' too real here

If I even look at them after knowing they're trans I become a chaser so I'm very reluctant even if I'm attracted to her, even if we get along so on their advice I choke down those feelings and save them for cis males and females

>>7601783
Tbh that's not really true, tall women with more androgynous features are still treated much differently from cis men, I can attest to that. It's like night and day, you don't have to be a "qt trap" to get a piece of that "female privilege" (which I don't really think exists, but I don't know what else to call it).

>>7601810
you're a cis fem right?

wtf is a hon. i'm new to all of this.

>>7601841
you, anon

>>7601841
A trap that has no bait

>>7601841
Its short for honey

>>7591575
>It's seen like you weren't good enough to get the real thing so you went for a bad imitation instead out of desperation

this basically, no one really views MtFs as real women, just imitations, and for the average cis person dating one is embarrass, and likely sexually unfulfilling

but ask trannies the same question, would you rather date another tranny or a cis person? the majority would say the latter

>>7591168
>increased societal burden of being a man
hahahahahahahahaha
wrong.

>>7591913
so you might mistake a black FtM for a black man?

>>7590480
>For sure as co-workers
>Maybe as friends if no-crazy no-hon (at least trying to pass)
>Maybe as time-to-time sex partners
>Never as a long relationship

>>7602207
black ftms are the most passable since black people all look like men

just like asian mtfs are the most passable since asians look like women

>subhuman mentally ill men trying to look sound and act ike girls and failing in one or more respects
And that's it.
t. biscum

Bi cis guy here...

Cis girls are a mixed bag. Some of them can be pretty chill, some of them come with their own batch of problems. Those problems are usually manageable though. Trans women by and large have one common problem, that is not so manageable -- they do not like themselves, and even when passing perfectly, they still do not like themselves. I've never dated a trans girl, and although the idea gets my dick quite curious, I am unsure whether it would be possible for the relationship to last long. If you cannot love yourself, how can you love someone who loves you?

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>>7590480
I don't like labels like cis male or whatever. If I wanted to have any label put on me, it would be a transhumanist. My belief therefore is, any person should be able to use available technology to enhance or change the form to a desired one, so I fully support MtF people.

I am not supportive in the real sense, because I was trying to be friendly and I was met with an aggresion. We are pack animals with an adherence to the norm of our community, considering anything outside as dangerous on a subconscious level. It's deeply wired in our genes. This LGBT community is among the frendliest I've had a pleasure to interact with, yet these people are sometimes labeling me as an enemy just because I am not the norm, since I am just a heterosexual guy with a little AGP on the side.

I would date a MtF if she completely transitioned with genital surgery and she would be like any other woman except for the fact that current technology cannot make her pregnant (yet). It's however possible to have a child from the genes of two males (I am sorry but genetically speaking she is most likely a male) inserted into a surrogate mother, so I have no issues.

Also one of the best ways to get to understand women is in my opinion discussion with males who desire to become or became women. I've grown up as a lover so much after interacting with this community.

>>7597027
Stop watching le anime first.

>>7597085

Did you expect anything else?

>>7590480
As guys pretending to be chicks. They will never be women, no matter their rhetoric.

>>7592345
>tfw transitioned to amazonian she bear
Thanks /fit/! Being cute is more for my partners than for me anyway.

>>7602349
It's true that it is difficult to maintain a relationship with someone who has self esteem issues. You need to make sure they don't become dependant on you and you most certainly need to avoid codependency. It can work if both partners are honest and are working to overcome their issues. Good communication is key. Using the relationship as a form of validation and/or hiding your true feelings out of fear or a lack of trust in your partner spells the death of a relationship.

Both partners need to understand this. It's imperative that both partners have the ability to communicate their emotions and thoughts effectively. Emotional maturity is a must.

This is true in any relationship, but it's especially true when you're trying to build/maintain a relationship with someone suffering from emotional issues. It's how I plan to make my lesbian relationship with a trans woman work.

>>7594984
Eh, the average chaser is just kind of weird. There's something about a lot of their rhetoric, not to lump them all together obviously. But I don't think the guys who just like dickgirls are equvilant to the chasers who go on and on about dicks in their butts, the inferiority of women, the evils of feminism, and/or how mtfs MUST settle for them.

I'm not even a feminist or anything really outside of 3rd world situations. You just notice trends after a while. I don't want to fuck an autistic man child in his man hole because he's bitter about women and his fetish. An open minded cool guy who likes traps or just isnt put off by the sueprise is much more palatable than that nonsense.

>>7602940
Chasers want to have dicks in their butt because they feel women are inferior and they are mad at them? Can you explain this concept to me? If I want to roleplay something, it's because I failed to do the opposite in life and now I am jealous or what?

>>7602615
I AM A TRANS-HUMANIST TOO BUT THERE IS A LOT OF TALK AND LITTLE WALK. WHEN THIS SHIT IS GONNA BECOME AVAILABLE? THEY SAY IN 20 YEARS, BUT I THINK THIS IS MORE SCIENCE FICTION

>>7602615
Pro-tip: You're good at your routine, you would have fooled me into dating you if not for the part where you called me a "male".

>>7603512
I don't want to date you, I have a great relationship with my current partner. That being said, the point was made from a strict scientific point, as most males are born with XY chromosomes, and it's only about a year since it's possible to have an offspring from two XY donors. I will never adopt a child and want to shoot my own genetic information that is combined with the genetic information of my partner into the future, so this fact is very important to me, and was the only reason why I wouldn't date a great looking transexual woman in the past.

I would never think of a person identifying themselves as a woman as a male, but you can't deny the important facts when you have future in mind just because they offend you.

>>7603769
I know what you meant, I'm telling you to let it go and stop talking like a robot, chromosomes don't necessarily matter in a relationship. Sure you can pivot to "muh genetic legacy", but it's only a matter of time until we get that shit sorted too.

But if you already have a cis partner then yeah, you have every right to shit on trannies, I would do the same in your position. Sorry for assuming.

>>7603802
I am talking like robot because english is not my native language and I don't know any better way to express myself in it. Chromosomes never mattered to me, it's about the person, but you know, my own kid is something I want in the future. Good thing is that it's possible for transexuals to have their own (genetic) kids with their partners.

Also I don't want to shit on transexuals, the life already shat on them with evolutionary roulette. I feel sorry for them, for most of them will never fulfill their dreams. I wish more people were accepting and open minded, because I think ignorance is the source of all evil in this world.

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>>7591913

>>7590480

I view 4chan MTFs as being generally immature, stupid, hateful, and unhappy. I view MTFs outside 4chan as being... complete strangers, because I never encounter them (as far as I know).

The average MTF is probably physically unattractive to me, and that should be important too, but it isn't. The problem turns out to be masked entirely by the worldwide obesity epidemic, which is turning EVERYBODY physically unattractive (on average).

If I felt that I needed to have babies that weren't adopted, then I'd prefer cis women. Since I don't especially feel that way, I will judge MTFs (should I ever encounter any in person) as I judge cis women: on a case by case basis.

>>7604240
Trans people are 1 out of every 10000 people. I doubt you'll ever know one on any sort of personal basis regardless.

>>7592209

But it is. That is what all genders are. That is what all of humanity is, excepting of course the ones who are still young enough to be called regular kids.

>>7604257
1 in 10,000 would by 0.01%, 0.3% of people are transgender, and it could be higher.

>>7597027

Die and become reincarnated as a cis girl. (Note: does not work if reincarnation isn't real)

>>7604283
Those are propaganda numbers gotten by counting crossdressers, non-binaries, non-transitioning trans people, etc.

If you look at actual state records and medical service numbers, it's more like 1 in 10000 (though there is variation).

>>7604329
I can't hardly go outside without running into trans people dude, I don't know about that.

The same. However, I don't date flatchested gals so I probably wouldn't date most mtfs

>>7590482
fippy bippy

tbqh I'd sooner shoot myself than fuck a tranny, fortunately not likely to ever be in the situation where I can't just refuse instead

>>7591575
A lot of this post is weird, like who the fuck considers some feeble, whiny 5'0" imp a wrathful god? Limp dicked if you ask me, but this part is on the money:

>It's very shameful for a man to date an MtF. It's seen like you weren't good enough to get the real thing so you went for a bad imitation instead out of desperation.

>>7605255
How edgy.

I see MTF as gay males with mental illness, and since I am myself a mental pacient, I could learn how to overcome the prejudices about it that our culture teaches. Unfortunatly not so many mtfs are devoid of prejudices themselfs about both mental illness and homossexuality. The ones that embrace their feminine penis and engaje in hot versatle sex offer me with better lewd than I could have with a woman coupled with brotier simplicity of problem solving and routine. On the other hand women can bear child, and are easely accepted by family, friends and society.

This is depressing

>>7606482
>see MTF as gay males

Being transgender has nothing to do with sexuality.

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>>7590480
>How do cis guys view mtfs compared to cis girls?

Its fine, obviously I like trans girls. I see them as 1a and 1b, not the exact same, but close enough to be roughly equivalent. I dont have any problem treating them like women as long as they carry themselves like one.

I have always liked athletic women that are bigger and stronger than average so trans girl bodies are ideal for me personally. I dont consider my trans attraction to be homosexual either, how can you see something like >>7591760 and see that as the body of a man? I dont really give a fuck what anybody says I am not ashamed of being trans attracted at all.

>>7602615
WTF my man were you high when you wrote this post? xD

Dis my first post during the Donald Trump Presidency LUL xD

Cis man (ie scum) here;
It's totally fine but without a shred of hard feelings I just wouldn't be into it. Wouldn't misgender anyone but part of does think that once you transition you are a transwoman but that is it. You're a transwoman, not a woman. I mean l would still be like "all the best, hope it works out for you" but on a purely subjective level I just wouldn't be into it. I'm sure this makes me transphobic (which sucks) but I think transpeople, like anyone else, deserves someone who is into them and that just isn't me.

Not a cis guy but I'd assume cis guys view mtfs in a range of ways, from strong like to strong dislike to support to opposition to everything in between. Not everyone who fits into a certain group thinks the same way.

>>7608873
>WTF my man were you high when you wrote this post?
Why?

I would date a trans woman if I found myself attracted to her. I would also consider it a lesbian relationship. I'm not the most feminine woman, since I lift weights a lot and don't do make up. The only issue would be how comfortable she is having sex, since that's important to me. I'd want her to be comfortable with me enough to be willing to let me pleasure her. Let me "eat her out" if you will. Mostly because I very much enjoy bringing my partner to orgasm. I love eating pussy, but I'm sure I could make do. It would just be like a giant clit, right? And hopefully not very big or even super hard. Face sitting and eating a clean butt? A-okay as well.

I can see there being some challenges, but if they're willing to work with me then I think it would be fine.

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>>7591168
>increased societal burden

>>7591168
>>FtM
>Individuals who should be recognized for willingly attempting to take on the increased societal burden of being a man.
>t. cis white male

That's my wife to a tee, but she doesn't identify as ftm. She dresses as she needs to be recognized as a normal person, keeps her hair long, but doesn't bother with makeup.

I'd recommend anyone trying to ftm to ask her questions. Also: the idea of dating a woman disgusts her. It goes against her hedonistic and stoic way of life: anything that's too much trouble isn't worth the effort.

>>7610089
You seem really chill.

>>7602938

Good communication is key with any relationship. Self esteem issues just make things harder. My ex girlfriend regularly threatened to kill herself, and it made the entire relationship a lot more stressful.

>>7590480

MtFs are often beautifully tragic creatures, and as someone whose major exes have all been ‘beautifully tragic’, that makes trans girls very appealing by default — if they’re decent-looking, anyway. It also helps that a lot of MtFs are huge nerds.

Also, yes, I think girltinklers are cute, though I have no particular desire to get fucked by one.

>>7590480

I see them for what they are, mentally ill people I certainly do not want to be in a relationship with. Real women are already crazy enough, thank you.


Why the fuck don't MTF just inject testosterone instead, I bet that'll make you feel good in a man's body.

I want a woman, with a real pussy, period and the ability to birth my children. No, I don't want some dude who thinks he's a chick because he's got boobs and is injecting hormones.

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>>7602205

>men have to pay for everything (dates, jewelry, gifts, etc)
>more socially acceptable for women to stay home while men are the breadwinner
>can easily flirt to get out of traffic tickets, get free drinks at bars, etc
>all that's expected of them in society is to be attractive and raise children (and even then they are not expected to raise children anymore)
>courts massively in their favor in divorce/custody cases

That's barely scratching the surface.

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>>7613334
Fuck you shitlord, you couldn't even imagine how hard it is to... to, um...

Haha. Man, I'm so glad I transitioned.

>>7606497
True, many mentally ill straight males don't even transition into the non-mentally ill female gender role.

>>7612173
Yes, everything I said is true for any relationship. I'm glad you recognize that. That's how I was able to draw those conclusions and articulate them. Is valuable advice for anyone and I hope that my ability to put that thought into words helps someone who was thinking along those lines, but couldn't exactly grasp it.

>>7612881
Why are you on /lgbt/ then.

>>7612785
>Why the fuck don't MTF just inject testosterone instead, I bet that'll make you feel good in a man's body.
Because people/doctors already tried for a long time "curing" mtfs via injecting testosterone and making them to be A MAN. Although it just didn't work even a bit. It just makes things worse and makes us want to kill ourselves even more.
The only known "cure" at this moment is transitioning to the desired gender and coming to harmony with ourselves.

>>7590651
this cunt gets it

>>7614434
>what are antipsychotics

> How do cis guys view mtfs compared to cis girls?

Women with a much higher chance of having emotional baggage and mental illness (which is saying something given how bad women are with that in general).

We probably wont see baggagless mtfs for decades

I literally found my last girlfriend sitting in her closet scraping "Help me, I'm Drowning" into the wall with a knife.

There is literally nothing mentally that a transgirl can scare me with after having to spend two hours talking that fucking lunatic down. I can deal with some insecurity.

If I'm attracted to it then I dont care if they're cis or not.

>>7590480
Trans are women. So I consider women as a personal property, sex objects and sex slaves who should not have any rights.

>>7621028
No you don't lmao, go enslave a chick if you believe that. Fucking moron.

>>7614479
Gonna reference that study with a single test subject again champ?

I'm gay and I'm not attracted to either but as far as I've seen most straight men do not consider MTFs female. Wouldn't want to date or sleep with them because that would be "gay".

There is also a stigma that most MTFs are alittle crazy but hey it sounds like a rough ride and who wouldn't go alittle crazy? Own it. Personally I've never gotten the crazy vibe from a transgirl but maybe it's because I like crazy. Idk. There was one trans lady that threatened me over grinder because I said I wasn't attracted to trans women. Go figure.

>>7621661
>There was one trans lady that threatened me over grinder because I said I wasn't attracted to trans women. Go figure.

Why would she be mad if she knew you were gay?

>>7621626
Woman, your sole existence is to be submitted to your owner/God.

>>7621669
Idk she probably thought it had to do with the trans thing. Which it did actually. I'm gay, sorry. I'm attracted to sweaty, smelly, hairy, arrogant men with baby faces.

I do find it odd that I never see any trans men on these hook-up apps which is a fucking shame because every trans dude I've met has an angel face and a fantastic ass

>>7621677
Demonstrate this via repeatable experiments then we'll talk. As it stands you not owning me is the strongest indicator that you can't and wont.

>>7621755
Woman. If it was just me, I would have whipped you everyday. The relationship between a man and his woman must be the same as God and his devotee. Each pain endured by the woman is a proof of her devotion and submission. Her sole existence is to pleasure her God. Anything else doesnot matter.

>>7621685
Most trans mens I know are small beta cuck types. Nice people but a bit awkward. Also sex isnt probably on their mind seeing how men think with their penis...

>>7621819
The good news for you is, you're far more likely to find a trans woman who buys into this shit than a cis woman.

>>7621836
Well that's depressing because like I said: angel faces, man. The absence of dick would take some getting used to but I could get used to having an extra place to put my tally wacker

>>7621836
>Also sex isnt probably on their mind seeing how men think with their penis...

What is, testosterone? Trans men go from flicking the bean twice a month to jacking off twice a day, just trust me on this.

Basically sterile women with a higher tendency to share my hobbies / interests.

>>7621819
You're right nothing else matters, come get me. Let's test your philosophy and dedication to god.

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>>7590480
If your cute and have a penis im in. If you chopped it off, id rather just get with a real girl.

>>7622378
Get out chaser

>>7621755

Haha you dork.