/ftmg/ - female to male general

The phantom penis offer still stands.

>>7577692
Can I fax it to you?

>>7577719
Yeah

>>7577692
Send me your coords

i'm really close to being homeless and i don't know what to do, but i'm thinking about killing myself

>>7577854
what are your circumstances?

any london girls here?
whats a nice club night to go to?

t. definitely not a chaser

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>>7577854
storytime?

>>7577854

I was homeless for 3 months.
couchsurfing.org can help
get on foodstamps while you still have an address if you're in the usa.
(its harder to do without an address)
research the local shelters, like salvation army, and the local food banks.
contact some of your friends you haven't seen in a while and see if they want to meet you for coffee or something. then level with them and ask if you can sleep on their couch for a week or two until you get your shit together.
public libraries are a good place to hang out and look for a job.

the worst part about being homeless (aside from the cold in winter) is finding a place to shit and shower. but there are places if you look.

>>7577932
>girls
>here

>london
>nice

>clubs

>>7577953
hi qt cat poster

>>7577978

i was homeless before and i can't do it again

>>7577668
how to i get the 'rents to accept me and let me go on t, /ftmg/?

i'm 18 but my mom is a control freak and not letting me leave until i finish my associates. both of my parents are vaguely accepting of my gender nonconformity and know i feel "like a boy", and whenever my dad sees trans men or nonbinary afab people in media he points it out to me, but my mother is in total denial and is convinced i am the most effete, feminine girl to ever walk the earth. what do?

[spoiler] also, how do i pick a non-garbage name? [/spoiler]

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>>7578023
Hi anon

>>7578035
show them how important it is to you, and to transgender people in general, to transition. Be relentless and educate them and maybe they will see that its really the right choice.

>>7578035
Have a nice dinner together, make sure you're all in a good mood and then explain to them that:

1) this is something you need to do to be able to live true to yourself and a fullfilling life
2) and either they're with you or not, but it is going to happen, and they don't have any say in it
3) but you'd much rather they be with you on the journey, because they're your parents and they're important to you.

Your dad seems like he's on the right way, and even if your mom's in denial she's evidently not as outright opposed as to, say, kick you out. My mother was accepting of me "finding myself" but wasn't too hyped about the option of me going on T, my dad didn't start embracing it until this year when he got a girlfriend who's feminist enough to correct him when he misgender me. Also, because the past year the "either you're with me or not but it's going to happen" became a bit more put in effect.

A good way to involve them would be to ask them to help you chose a new name. Ask if there's any names they had in mind for you had you been biomale, if there's any family names, etc.

>>7578026
>i can't do it again

well it sounds like you may not have a choice

>>7578035
>what do?

1.don't let your mom's reaction bother you.
2.finish your associates.
3.be grateful you have an awesome dad and let him know you appreciate him.

eventually you will have a job and can move out and live on your own and then you will have the freedom to do whatever you want.

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>>7578026
Get a friend. Move in together. Annoy each other until you can move on.

>>7577668
>What is/was your biggest dilemma?

I'm trying to find out who I am, and thus find some sense of purpose or direction to my life. I have none. Right now I'm out of college because I didn't want to commit to any career path, became a NEET. Being social, having friends, and building lasting relationships was strangling to me. In group therapy I'm just beginning to realize the extent of my depression and identity issues, and I don't know where to go from here.

>>7577978
>contact some of your friends you haven't seen in a while and see if they want to meet you for coffee or something. then level with them and ask if you can sleep on their couch for a week or two until you get your shit together
I personally hate when people do this shit. Go look for a homeless shelter.

accidentally responded to dead thread rip
>>7576250
yeah, that was me, but I realized that would be impossible anyways and figure that if I did get famous, people would eventually find out Im trans anyways.

>>7577932
maybe check the mtf thread or the lesbo thread?

>>7578510
i was about to respond to the dead thread too. how would they find out if there was no available info about you and no reason to question your gender? at least here people don't go look at celebrities\famous people wondering if they're trannies, unless it's obvious. we have a tranny tv host that's very popular but it's a declared blatant hon.

>>7578012
>>7578516
loool. there's an idea. sorry lads :/
since i'm here anyway i just thought you should know I fugged a ftm once too. best bj i've EVER had.

t. equal opportunities chaser

>>7578573
good for ya, a mouth is still a mouth

>>7578552
but they do
erin and leafy are two commonly questioned possible trannies for example and you guys immediately know what I look like from my face despite it changing quite a bit from the first time I posted and got my nickname.
I imagine eventually someone from 4chan would just recognize me when I finally start streaming and making videos.

>>7578597
maybe from 4chan yes, still could be just conjecture for most people, like in the case of leafy. yeah, there is doubt about him possibly being ftm but there's not much evidence. feels like the same issue with seeing a strong-jawed woman and screaming "A FUCKING TRANNY", everybody's on the look for this shit for whatever reason. this board isn't heavy traffic either so what i'm saying is you'd have slim chances to be recognized by ftmg lurkers.

>>7578035
>how do i pick a non-garbage name?

While inviting your parents in can be a great bonding thing, they might pick a shit name. My mother would have called me Lawrence, Caleb, or Kincaid. No thank you.

Look at birth statistics for your country and year of birth, pick a few you like from the boys top 100 or 200 then have your folks help you choose from those.

>>7578972
>Kincaid
Jesus that's bad. That sounds like a name an ftm would choose for himself.

>>7578972
Kincaid is a last name, it would make a terrible first name.

>anon with Kincaid as a last name

Join the ftmgen discord, niggers. We need more people. https://discord.gg/zt2xFD8

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>>7579134
Agreed, but a lot of surnames shift into given names... so many Jacksons, Andersons, etc.

Some parents have stupid ideas... my birth name was some hippy shit. Seriously, it was on par with shit like "Sunset Raine".

>>7579709
>Andersons
Are you srs? Why would they call their child Anderson?

>>7580272
Mirin mustache gains

>>7578597
i'm a trans guy who plans to get famous stealth
i also started the leafy meme and am working on popularizing the pyro meme
you may have noticed that in real life nobody ever thinks leafy or pyro are trans, even though it's obvious (especially for the latter)
most people don't think much about trans guys, everything they know about us comes from milo stewart which is horrible but also means actual men (female) can easily go stealth
just don't go around shirtless with your scars out or anything

>>7580285
Never heard of this pyro guy, why do people think he's trans?

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>>7580298
dude looks like this
and he's an adult (19, admittedly) with a very deep voice, so it's not being in puberty that's doing it

>>7580305
If he loses the weight then regain it it will distribute better.

>>7580285
I don't think Leafy is trans but I did assumed Pyro was trans the first time I saw his vids although I ended up chalking it up to muh paranoia since he never said anything about it...

>>7578972
> tfw my parents gave me a name that's snowflake tier in either gender

On the other hand, if I were born a lad, they were going to name me Alex. And while it's one of the most generic male names, it's also its downfall as a significant percentage of my peer group are Alex or Alex-like variations of all genders, and I'd rather not make the confusion even worse.

I could use some advice.

How do I get a really close shave? Like I get that I'm a man, but I just find the facial hair ugly enough that I'd prefer it to be back to woman-like.

/fa/ says get a surgical razor but that sounds both risky and extreme.

>>7581044
Do you have really thick dark hair or something?

>>7581044
just use a double razor, it sounds risky at first but they're great
>>7581069
hey fiona, when did you stop hating /ftmg/ and non-trendscum trans guys as much? you seem to have chilled out a lot lately

>>7581044
Good quality razor blade is safer. A cutthroat is more of a meme since it takes a lot of practice and you need to maintenance the blade often, although a traditional shave is a luxurious ritual to keep. A good machine will also do the job, and is easier to use than a razor.

If you have a permanent shadow no matter what you could consider mild bleaching sessions.

>>7581080
I have always hated actual trendscum.

Oliver and Marshall are not trendscum which is why I make fun of you for thinking so.

>>7578076
>i'm thinking about killing myself

there's always a choice

>>7581172
Yep. A flip or a dive.

i actually have to shave now or i look like a neckbeard. what's a good shaving cream to use? is gilette ok?

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>>7580068
>Are you srs? Why would they call their child Anderson?
You tell me.

There is actually a tradition, Irish I think, where the mother's maiden name becomes the kid's first name. Probably when the mother was an only child, to honor her father's name.

>>7580285
>i'm a trans guy who plans to get famous stealth
doing what?

>>7581287
I got some minty caffinated shit recently. Smells like chewing gum. I just use whatever doesnt have my weird allergens in it.

>>7581299
Yeah, but Anderson literally means son of Anders. And it's a Scandinavian name.
Then again I know someone who called their daughter Tequila, and someone who named their son Hawk. They're both white trash families so not surprising.

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>>7581287
Just wet your skin with water. Shaving cream is a meme. And Aloe Vera afterwards is better than aftershave if you are prone to sensitive skin. Aftershave is mostly for smelling fancy.

>>7581320
Well, Anderson Cooper's father was named Wyatt... so guess they missed the memo. His dad was of poor background but his mothers family is far from white trash though. She is a Vanderbilt, old railway money.

>>7581363
Burgers are weird

I track my calories so I know how much I'm eating. How much does healing from surgery increase your TDEE? I need to know how many extra calories to eat per day.

I'm thinking of getting lipo for my thighs and ass even though I'm not a fatty. I'm bothered by the fact that when I look to cis guys of my relative build, that their thighs and ass are much smaller/thinner than mine.

Thoughts?

>>7581931
If you've got cellulite (which is more than likely if your legs are fatter than cis guys), I wouldn't go into it. It would remove the normal fat making the cellulite more visible.

>>7581888
Honestly if you're recovering from surgery you're gonna feel like garbage no matter what and you're probably justified in eating whatever you want. Work it off and get back to normal once you've recovered.

>>7581931
Just lose weight ffs

>>7581888
If you are trying to lose, underestimate. If you are trying to gain, overestimate.

>>7581982
Like I said, I'm pretty thin. I've been hitting the gym for a year now too to try and bulk up but my thighs still bother me.

>>7582057
btw I'm the guy that wants lipo since you responded to two people

>>7582063
The weight will most likely distribute bsck if you lose it and regain it, assuming you're on T. It cost you a lot less to lose some weight and be skelly than to do unecessary surgery, not to mention you will fuck with your health and hormone balance by losing fat cells. You should at least try to lose weight and gaining it back before you cut yourself open.

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>>7582331
Why the fuck would I want to lose weight if I'm already otherwise skinny? I just want a more male figure

>>7581931
I have the same problem. Trying to squeeze into male skinny jeans is a daily struggle.

>>7582396
for redistribution

>>7581931
Are you on T? If not, look into it, it does redistribute the fat on your butt/thighs.
If so and it's still not enough, just work out more.

Although there's nothing wrong with a guy with a bubble butt.

>>7582474
I've been on testosterone for almost 3 years. I'm not interested in a bubble butt or thunder thighs.

>>7582527
Might just be your genetics. Have you looked at the guys in your family, from either parent?
My family is one of those "everyone has a huge ass" kinds.

>>7581044
i just wax it. no joke, you don't shave for months with that. it's painful as fuck, but you get used to it. when the hair grows back, it's thinner and shittier so eventually you can just shave i guess. i might get laser eventually if i have money to waste

>>7582440
I hate it when fat people wear skinny jeans

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>tfw don't have to talk to anyone for a few days and can eat all the raw garlic I want

I need the bumboys to post bum, or else I release garlic farts

>>7582622
bitch can't even eat a raw onion,leek AND garlic salad. get on that level, burp hell storms and fart demons for an entire weekend, then let me know how it felt to be alive.

I terrified the hell out of my wife by farting constantly for 3 days it is not worth it

well that and also my terrifyingly cold hands

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>>7582634
mfw

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>>7582644
The trick is to both eat garlic so you don't notice the other's smell.

>>7582663
doesn't do anything for my cold dead hands tho lol

also idk why but my wife has the least scary farts ever even though she will eat super garlicky grilled cheeses with a million peppers on them as a light snack (she is a strong independent woman apparently)

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>>7582651
mfw i smell your farts

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>>7582695
>tfw no gf with harmless girly farts
You lucky bastard ;_;

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>>7582701
lewd

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I can't tell if I'm a self-hating girl or ftm anymore. I've identified as a man for years now but haven't been able to transition, and now I'm not sure if it's even worth it.

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>>7582745
Why no transition?

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>>7582716
i am aroused

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>>7582791

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>>7582801
i shall pursue you

>>7582552
The fat from my thighs just never redistributed. I'm pretty sure that it won't come back if I get it removed, at least not completely. You dumbasses are useless for anything beyond pre-T and early stage transitioning questions.

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>>7582813
wtf is that gif

I wish I could just go into a coma and have someone inject me with testosterone every week for a year and wake up with a beard ;-;

>>7582818
Fatties gonna fat. Have you ever tried a recomp or are you doing the defensive thing right now? All sources I've seen say you need to lose the fat first for it to distribute male. If you have a delicate frame you need to lose most fat for it to work. Time to go full skelly, dude. What height and weight?

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>>7582786
Transphobic/homophobic family, medical issues. A wide variety of stuff

>>7582845
cut your pubes and glue them to your face

>>7582857
What medical issues? If your family is trouble you need to move out to start your life.

>>7582868
Had extreme eating disorder for a while, it fucked up a lot of stuff.

My family has already paid for my college, and if I go to college I feel Iike I'll have to stay in contact with them and all of that.

>>7582855
I was 115lbs and 5'9" before I started working out. I'm now about 130lbs, though my thighs haven't changed since before I started, other than being stronger. But yeah sure, keep calling me fat.

>>7582895
y u mad bro?

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>>7582895
I smell transparanoia. Post them legs, boy. I think it's all in your head.

>>7582881
Jokes on you my mom is dead

>>7582880
have you already done the college thing or are you talking about future college paid through fund? If the money is in your name and they can't get to it you can go, transition and pretend nothing is happening. If they ask about beard and voice stuff claim PCOS or something.
Sucks about the eating disorder thing. I fell into the same trap a decade ago.

>>7582916
It's that fund yea, maybe I could get to college without them being a part of it. I came out to them in the past and it was hellish so I went back into the closet, but they'd probably suspect something if I came back with a deep voice and shorter hair...

A lot of ftms seem to have eating disorder problems, it sucks

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>>7582965
You will regret not going to college, especially if it's paid for. Get your degree, dude.
Could you get away with short hair but normal voice? You could maybe do a social transition on campus and be closet at home, then start T when you're reaching the end of your studies. You think you could handle it? College can be freedom away from them even if you have to postpone T a while longer.

>>7582989
Maybe a bob or something, but anything else and they'll ask questions.

If I could get an apartment or something away from them, maybe it would be livable.

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>>7582999
Can't you apply to a college far far away? Then you can claim travel length as an excuse not to come home very often.

>>7582842
come on it's a widely common fuck-propulsion eco friendly vehicle

>>7583019
The fund only applies to college within my state, but it's big, so yea I could try. Good idea

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>>7583024
You're not the messiah, you are a very naughty boy

>>7583026
What state?

>>7582818
Well no shit, T affects everyone differently and it's hard to predict specifics like that.

>>7583052
Florida

>>7583052
>sloth-shaming

i need a spanking

>>7582965
Not asking you directly but bouncing off of this--

Why do "so many FtMs have eating disorders"? Is it from a mindset like thick-thigh-anon's where they think losing weight can give them a manly figure?

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>>7583066
Nice. Butt or head? I always wanted to go to the 'Glades and get molested by mosquitoes.

>>7583075
Post bum

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>>7583102
I lost weight because depression and found out it killed period, tits, hips and everything else feminine about me. At the same time people complimented me about it, the same people who sanctioned me for doing anything male or masculine, so it felt like a male cheatmode. It didn't take long before I focused all angst and control over to food because it was the only comfort I had. By controlling food I could remove myself from a world telling me everything I felt was right was wrong. I couldn't fix dysphoria but at least I could remove all the wrongs until I finally disappeared. It's a scary drug to be addicted to. Sorry for blog.

>>7583109
>the 'Glades

enjoy your Zika

>>7583102
well if you starve yourself enough your periods will stop, tits flatten more due to lack of fat etc

and also given that during puberty is when dysphoria will start really flaring up for a lot of people due to development of secondary sex characteristics, this is often the first available course of action to combat that development since hormones aren't available/family may not be supportive. add in the fact that disorders developed during your teen years can form patterns that last for years and years, it's a bit of a perfect storm

>>7583102
Hey, hold up. I don't want to lose weight and I definitely don't have an eating disorder. I'm trying to gain because I've been a stick all my life and I hate it. Got a pretty high metabolism because I can eat a ton and not a lot changes. I just want to be more male-proportional. I'll post a picture later to show what I mean.

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>>7583165
You just jelly of my gator doge

>>7583170
Well explained, sir

>>7583194
>I'll post a picture

all these camwhores infesting our board

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>>7583194
>Got a pretty high metabolism because I can eat a ton and not a lot changes

>>7583215
I was asked to post a picture by another anon. It's not like I'm going to be including my face in it.

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>>7583052
i see what you did there
>sloth picture
>after being told he'll be pursued
it's almost as if you want the bdsmobile to catch you

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>>7583254
Mirin bob

>>7583109
Smack in the middle near Disney

>>7583287
Orlandnoooooooo!

>>7581301
Camwhoring

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>>7583287
I hereby name you Orlando. Does the fund cover living on campus? You could go live down south with the rich and famous.

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>>7582587
I'M NOT FAT YOU FUCKING JEW

>>7583316
I'm not sure actually, but that would be cool. Miami is fun

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>>7583323
You need to do some research, son. Imagine the possibilities.

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>>7583349
I feel a lot more positive now actually. I will research

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>>7583355
Ur gonna make it

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>>7583270
i stare at you in your sleep

>>7583341
it's not worth knowing you'll never ever be able to fuck someone even if you wanted to, or rub dicks together, or receive a blowjob, or be considered a real man by society in general

cute dick btw

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>>7583368
"comfyness stops"

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>>7583408
in heaven everything is fine

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>>7583439
Heaven sounds boring as fuck

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>>7583455
you didn't get my Lynch quote, be ashamed of yourself

>>7578035
Soft denial.

Just start ignoring them when they piss you off and make plans to transition without their blessing. They may come around, they may not. Its a process. Ignore and avoid the topic for now.

At fist my mom balked at the entire idea, but now shes bought me dresses and makeup. Still calls me dead name and 'sir' but its something I guess. Im sure she is still hoping that im a confused self hating feminine bi dude instead of trans.

Eventually once you go on T, they will either be with you or not. Act accordingly. Family isn't always through shared blood.

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>>7583474
Triggered much?

>>7583484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmyzYBeGrE8 you pleb losing the time of your life with lady testicle face

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>>7583489
Saving it for later fapping sessions. My connection can't handle it right now. In the meantime.. post bum.

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>>7583396
Anal is honestly better.
You should accept the femboy life

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>>7583503
why don't you post yours, i want to take a trip into it

>>7583515
Anyone can do anal, though. Only dicks can do penetration.

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>>7583517
"Brraaaaaaph"

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>>7583515
delicious butt

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>>7583534
you're no fun, i'll just fap to that

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>>7583552
I thought you liked my farts

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>>7583558
i want to smell them from your butt, breathing the sweet scent of decomposition, and all you could provide was a sewer rat

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>>7583566
>Implying I'm not the sewer rat
Ahahaha

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went to get cigarettes with my s/o at a bodega before he went to work, and seen this guy with someone's hair sticking out of his pocket... he smelt like a fucking subway stairwell
too

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>>7583586
+ sad attempt at a close up, didn't wanna get near him...

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>>7583579
i didn't sign up for this

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Here. Picture doesn't show it well, but I just want them slimmed down a bit, not like a whole complete makeover or something. Ignore obvious lack of benis pls.

>>7583602

you should do it if you want, if it'll make you feel better, but you look fine... if it makes you uncomfortable to the point where it causes you distress then fixing it is worthwhile

it would make the difference you want obviously, and if it's been 3 years then you've waited more than long enough for changes

working out your upper body will help too... not that i can see it, but it makes a difference when looking at a person

>>7583602
Behold the skinnyfat curse. You might be skinny, but you have too little muscle compared to fat. Losing fat and gaining muscle will solve your problem. It will also increase your overall weight since muscle is heavier than fat. Remember that cis guys have more muscle mass than women. You need to get to that level.

And stop doing squats if you want to avoid thunderthighs. Become a curlbro.

>>7583602
Are you standing on your toilet

Why are all ftms gay/bi with a heavy skew towards men?

>>7583602
You're so hairy hnng. I'm more trimmed myself but I can enjoy some hair. Would love to lick you in naughty places.

What do you want slimmed down? Your hips? They look pretty normal to me even compared to a cis male.

>>7583647
Also this is bad advice you look skinny enough but if you started to workout your thighs would get bigger not smaller. It looks like they're mostly muscle in the pic if you started working out all it would do is make them bigger. I honestly don't think they're that big looking to begin with though and everyone looks better from working out more. Nothing beats a good ass and thick thighs on a man either way, no-homo.

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>>7583659
bagina repulses me

>>7583341
Not all of us are gay...

>>7583659
(not true by the way)

>>7583659
Supposedly T makes you lean that way, sometimes.
I'm bi with a heavy preference for girls and I don't think that'll change.

>>7583647
That's what I'm trying to do, I've been doing pullups and working on my upper body, but it's an uphill battle. My arms are literal twigs, and I sprained one of my wrists trying to do curls once. I actually stopped working on my legs a while ago but they can pull more than my bodyweight without a sweat.

But anyways that's why I want lipo to get rid of some of the excess. It's more for me than anything else, since I know I pass just fine.

>>7583687
How much for lipo? It's honestly not bad, dude. You should save your money.

>>7583697
I think I might be able to do it for like 2-3k? I'm actually not completely sure. But if I can look down when I'm sitting and not hate the way my thighs look, it would be worth it. I'd also fit into my boxer briefs a bit easier without having to stretch the seams at the legs near the bottom when they're new.

>>7583659
cocks are tasty

>>7583659
I might be gay, but I know a lot of trans guys that exclusively date women. They're waaaay more likely to go stealth though and tend to avoid LGBT stuff. That might have something to do with it.

>>7583709
Eh. C'est la vie. If you think it will improve your happiness I guess. I would buy a motorcycle for that kind of money but each for his own.

>>7583651
Yes. Yes I am.

>>7583602
you look fine

>>7583659

i'm bi, but i don't have a physical preference or one when it comes to sex... and i can enjoy people regardless of their gender and sex is a good time regardless so i don't really give a shit

my s/o and i are together cuz of the way we click and the other shit is whatever... and i feel that towards other people as well

i find men and women equally attractive and i either get along with people or i don't...

>>7583341
because i like girls
because i like girls and don't want to spend 20 minutes explaining my condition before sex and probably being turned down after
because there are a lot of nonsexual situations where having genitals that match your body is a good thing so you don't get outed against your will, have awkward questions asked, or possibly end up in physical danger

>>7577668
this is random as fuck, but i might need advice.
i have a dear friend that's ftm, i've known him for a long while, always get along fine and we clicked very quickly. personality or mutual understanding, probably both, but anyway we've become close friends. now, he's usually fine, but sometimes i don't know what the fuck to do. he acts normal, then shifts to turbo fucking depression for a literal nothing. i understand that, and i understand why he might be depressed. what i can't deal with is how he complains about feeling bad\feeling fat\feeling whatever, and i try to talk to him or give practical advice. what else should i say? but whenever i do so, he refuses to do anything about his condition. just complains, whines, and refuses to change anything in his life, then laments depression. i told him, and it's like talking to a fucking wall. i seriously don't know how to handle this shit. i don't want to lose a friend or cross the line, but he sends my rage into overdrive when these episodes take place. on one side i'd bash his head in, on the other hand i feel like i shouldn't probably try to be invested in his shit. has anyone had similar experiences? or advice in general, cause i'm out of ideas.

For a long time I wasn't able to get real stubble, but the other day I rubbed my face and felt the stubble and somehow it made me feel really good, I don't know how to describe it.

Has anyone ever had a feeling like that?

>>7584039

the thing about depression is it can fuck people up in that way... i get why it's annoying you, but he can't help the way he feels and depression is gonna control his actions

the most you can do is accept it and be there anyway or leave cuz depression can be destructibe and does push people away...

he feels like he can confide in you, try not responding and instead letting him talk... you're annoying yourself more by offering input, and if anything distract him when he gets like that or be honest and tell him you can't deal with it

sometimes hearing a harsh reality from a friend is for the best and letting him know where depression is taking him and his friendship with you might help him realize a few things...

>>7581335
I thought it was for sanitizing all the micro cuts you just put on your face? I have shitty aftershave but i use it in hopes it keeps my face from festering.

I just got a fancy-ass cream I'm gonna try in the morning since I'd had a gift card lying around for a year plus. I too am stuck in neck beard territorry, but the sideburns are starting to grow a bit.

so ive done acid twice now and I just want to know if doing psychs is going to mess with my T injections or what the affects of psychs are on testosterone in general.

>>7584696
Same as any cis guy

>>7581044
safety razor is the best shave I ever had at home, gillette 15 blade hyperrazors are a meme

baby shampoo is apparently great for lather but I just use this tube stuff that my dad uses because his did, smells great
I found the thicker lather from the gel products to be pretty decent too

>>7584039
basically this
>>7584104

but if you want to help them out of their funk you could try doing boxing classes or some shit together, I dunno
even 'moderate' depression is pretty fucked though, looking at what it does to people

>>7584104
>>7584039

destructive* my bad... btw the most you could get him to do is realize it's destructive (he probably knows, but when someone is dealing with it it's hard to see just how bad it is) and maybe push harder to try to change some things and get help... but it's not gonna be some quick thing that he can just fix... depression is something people can struggle with their entire lives and to a certain extent as a friend you have to accept that this is part of who he is... either always or just for now... and it's not easy for him and he isn't ignoring your advice to be difficult or avoiding helping himself cuz he wants to stay that way

just like physical illness well meaning advice from a friend doesn't fix mental illness...

it isn't wrong if you can't deal with it though... not everyone can, but if you want to be there for him and help him you're gonna have to be realistic about what depression is

dead thread
slow hours, or was the last time I was posting a 6hr bender that compressed time a bit?

>>7585569

it's always mostly slow here with bursts of conversation...

>>7585531
eh i don't mean to fix mental illness, that's beyond my ability and anyone's, neither do i expect it to be quick to go away. what i'm saying is, why would he say that stuff to me if not to have advice\insight out of his own bubble, but then refuse to take the slightest step in fixing things? it's not like he's 24/7 crying and lost in depression, but when he has energy he does anything but fixing the things that according to him give him depression. sometimes it feels like he just really likes complaining to vent out, but i have no idea if i should just let him do his shit or if he's actually asking for something. it's confusing as fuck

>>7585718

sometimes people just need to talk to someone else, to say what's bothering them and just be listened to... they're not asking for advice, they don't necessarily want your insight (have you ever asked him if he's seeking your advice by talking to you? or are you just assuming that's what he must want and then getting frustrated? if there's no clear communication there maybe there should be, cuz what you might see as you being helpful could just be you giving unsolicited advice and it might have the opposite result... sometimes with depression well meaning advice can make a person feel worse) they just want to talk...people sometimes just need to think aloud at someone to sort their head out

most people with severe depression aren't crying 24/7 or lost in jt all the time... it can just be something that eats away at them often and then comes out sometimes

if he isn't fixing those things they could be things that his depression is actively making hard for him to fix... he might have the energy to do other things, but that isn't necessarily gonna give him the drive to make changes he needs to make or the ability to fix what he struggles with

you see that your advice isn't helping or changing the situation then so try a different approach

it's pointless to keep doing something that doesn't work and keep expecting results one day or getting frustrated by it continuing to not work... at a certain point you gotta accept that it's not doing anything

level with him, say what you're feeling (without making him feel like shit don't make a big deal out of him not taking your advice like he's obligated to... advice should be given without the expectation that it's going to be what the person does, people need to come to conclusions on their own + grow and change at their own pace) and ask him what he gets out of it... it could be as simple as him not always being able to control his depression and it leaking out in front of someone he trusts...

>>7585873

it* my bad...

>>7585873

- then or - so... ignore me i'm just bothered by mistakes i made cuz ocd, but i word vomit and sloppy edit shit when it goes over the word limit cuz drugs

>>7585873
you're right, and i tried asking him if i should stop "intervening" in the things he tells me, because i had that suspicion too. i mean, that he didn't like a discussion about the shit he tells me, but i always get unclear answers. asked if it was annoying, or why he told me these things in the first place, but i always got "i don't know" as an answer so in turn i don't fucking know either. i'm not getting a yes or a no, so on one hand i think i should quit trying to offer my opinion\advice, on the other hand i feel useless, i wonder maybe he's telling me this for a reason and me not saying anything is shit. but eh, asking him yielded no results. i guess i'll try to not comment and see how that works out

>>7586477

he probably really doesn't know, and it's just shit coming out... it's pretty common for depressed people to be unaware of why they're acting out and reaching out and not know what they want or are looking for... they flail around trying to find something to hold onto whether or not they know what it is

it's probably as confusing for him as it is for you... so keep that in mind

like i said though if it isn't working continuing to try is just a way to be frustrated

you aren't useless just cuz you can't do anything... people who are depressed sometimes are just content to be heard and know someone will listen

personally when i speak to someone like him i ask them questions... i ask them what they think about the things they're saying and i get them to elaborate... i ask them what they think would help and don't push if i get shit like "nothing" as an answer, that's depression talking it's normal for what it is

you could also do things like engage him in ways that are distracting and constructive... even if it's just doing something like getting him to go for a walk or some shit... something that could help one of his issues without you putting a spotlight on it you know? like no mention of his weight just do something to help with weight loss... make it a point to keep him active in some way (physically or mentally) so he's doing shit that helps with depression without it being a thing...

and when he has his breakdowns just listen, be there for him, and see how it goes... you can only do so much, but sometimes that's all you gotta do

>>7586671
makes sense, he's not big into elaborating even if you ask questions. he sounds confused as fuck so you don't get much from that. i'm not familiar with depression so i have no idea how that works in people's minds, but judging from him, it looks like he's in a constant fog you know

>>7586838

yeah it's more just a way to try to keep them talking, it can help sort through some of the confusion sometimes... depression definitely clouds shit, and it can really fuck with someone's head in the way you're describing

as much as it sucks though to an extent you gotta just sit back and accept that the situation sucks... hate to say it, but that's how shit is sometimes

he's lucky to have someone who gives a shit though, but past giving a shit and being his friend there's fuckall you can do

i'm assuming you've already tried to encourage him to seek professional help... if not there's that, but really it comes down to being realistic about the situation and what being friends with a depressed person is... and it's what you're going through with him right now

that hopeless despair, the fog, the inability to make necessary changes... that's depression

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Blogpost warning.
Seeing how it's rock and a hard place thread. This holiday my creepy white thrash brother-in-law came with my sister. He treats me like garbage and blames me for the fact than granma hates him (she hates him because he wears hats inside the house and once had sex on her couch). Basically the guy is very working class, works in construction, and refuses to do any woman's work around the house. Since most of the work during their visit was cooking, putting the table/cleaning the table, and making cocktails, he had nothing to do and felt very uncomfortable the whole visit. At some point someone said that we needed more firewood. He immediately sprung to work and chopped wood. Thing it, that was my job. He basically cucked me and stole my one designated role in the house. And he didn't care, because he sees me as a woman. As far as he is concerned it is his god-given right to be the one chopping wood, as my cousin and dad were chefs and he was the 'only remaining male'. He was proud as a peacock to no longer be defined only has the hatwearing slut.

As he robbed me of my moment of wood bashing and holiday contribution, how fedora is it to challenge him to a duel to reclaim my honor? I don't have a katana but I have a parang, and I know for a fact that he sucks at blade-play.

If anyone remembers it, he is also the guy coming from the anti-lgbt shithole who might or might not be into gaybashing as a hobby (I mentioned it before Christmas).

>>7586928
*setting the table
sorry

>>7586928

let that shit go... why are you holding on to some bullshit holiday anger? it's over and done with... besides getting that mad over something like that is bitch shit

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>>7586969
He. Cucked. Me.

>>7586975

your ego is way too fucking fragile man...

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>>7586969
This.

Let it go. My goddamn 90 year old grandmother chops wood. If he needs that to feel "like a man" he is more pathetic than advertized.

>>7586981

+ you gotta either do shit when it happens or you let it go... if you bitched out of saying something then and there it's your own damn fault not his...

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>>7586984
Your grandma is badass

>>7586981
True

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>>7586987
Very true. I'm shit at timing, though. How to get good at timing? I always get to stuff like this when it's too late.

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hi /ftmg/

I am an mtf and the oldest in my family, with a twin brother and a younger sister that is now an ftm too.
While I have three sources of income, a bf of three years and almost payed off a new car at 24, he fell into depression and does nothing with his life, just drink smoke and hangout with SJWs. He wont take any of my advice on being masculine or life in general and I dont know how to help him anymore. He is very impressionable and once locked himself away frm society because he believed he was inherently racist as a white man. How do I tell him that he needs to sack up?

I can't take it because he will always be my little imouto in a way, and Ill always remember when /a/ posted hugg your imouto threads, she would see them and come hug me instead ;_;

>>7586991
She is, but chopping wood is a kid chore for my family. Like, 8 and 10 year old kids do it. She would be offended if you implied she could not chop wood.

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>>7587005
Are you Alaskan homesteaders or something? You let kiddies play with decapitation tools?

>>7587002
>she would see them
>she

>>7587002
Might just be a trender
Try to get him help with depression and all that, but if he just keeps bitching about his problems and does nothing to fix them, well.. yeah.

>>7587000

you say shit when it bothers you unless it's a bad place for it, and then depending on how important it is and how close you are to the person you give it a day tops and then you let it go... if you can't get shit out within that amount of time it's not that important

holding onto shit is a waste anyway...

>>7587002

let him live his life and make his own mistakes... you've said shit, he's still himself, accept it and move on... give him time to figure shit out on his own, people gotta

i get the concern, but you can't force someone to live their life in a way you see fit...

i mean i'm gonna be real with you if one of my brothers told me some shit about the drugs i do or how much i drink i'd probably just tell them that i appreciate the concern, but i'm not a child and i'm gonna continue to do the shit i do cuz that's just me...

maybe he's just not masculine, it happens... let him be himself though...

>>7586928
Challenging him to a duel is only apt in this scenario if it's a woodchopping duel.

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>>7587095
>tfw /pol/ cooties
edgy

>>7587093
I would lose unless I can sneak drug him or something. He does physical labor.

>>7587095
that's not a good training, because wood won't struggle when you chop it with your axe. a nigger will squirm and try to escape its well deserved fate. you should instead train your children in the art of axe throwing to catch the negro in its fleeting motions. they are fast runners after all.

>>7587024
>He has dated girls for mre than 5 years and was a tomboy for as long as I can remember.

>>7587014
>she
sorry Its hard for me to see him as a man when he is 5'0" and acts like every trans youtoober ever

>>7587128
>I would lose
Then don't whine about it.
With that said, I WOULD try and talk to your sister about the fact that her boyfriend's a douche.

>>7587150

he's my height... really though as someone who's trans yourself you should be more understanding and respectful towards your own sibling... even if he is a little bitch

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>>7587150
>Its hard for me to see him as a man when he is 5'0"
THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING MANLETS WE ARE STRONG AND STRAPPING LADS FUCK YOU.

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>>7587158
A girl dating a guy like that, you think she's any better? She's anti-lgbt, unless we're talking about a gay bff accessory she can go shopping with, and acts like her pretty looks makes her better than anyone else. Stacy featherhead with a side of bitchy. Sometimes I wish she would die of cancer so she could stop spreading it to everyone else. She bullied me about being masc and 'pretending to be a boy' as a kid, and I ended up developing panic attacks as a result. Fuck that bitch.

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>>7587011
No. It just takes some high level retardation to hurt yourself with an axe. Only time I saw a kid fuck themselves up with an axe was some city kid who came out camping, and he was trying to act like alpha dog. Dumb shit whipped the handle up over his head, and was unprepared for the weight/momentum of the axe head.

Split the back of his head open with the flat of the blade. Hilarious. He was 12 or 13, bawling, blood all down his back to his swim trunks.

I grew up split between what for us were "suburbs" but most people would still consider rural, and farmland. Shitting in outhouses, hand-pumped well water. We just... learned not to be fucking stupid. Or... if we did something stupid we owned up to it and didn't act surprised when we drove through a barbed wire fence.

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>>7587095
By the by, klans-anon was not who you were speaking to originally.

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>>7587283
>Shitting in outhouses, hand-pumped well water. We just... learned not to be fucking stupid. Or... if we did something stupid we owned up to it and didn't act surprised when we drove through a barbed wire fence.
I fucking love this. It's the best way to raise kids. Learn the value of hard work from the start, be allowed to participate and train up skills, and not be cuddled against every danger. Any life skills that was must-learns from your Huckleberry Finn childhood?

>>7587329
Probably how to build/maintain a decent fire.

How to tell direction by the position of the sun, or moss on trees. So many people can't tell you which direction is East even while the sun is rising.

How to get a "dried out" well to pump again
(spare some water to wet the seals, usually works)

Every now and then people around me are being retarded and I realize there is some simple thing that none of them know, while they're panicking and trying to get cell signal to google it. It's weird.

I can't breed, but I'd be useful in a zombie scenario.

>>7587354
would apocalypse with/10
I've noticed the same, but although I've spend a lot of time innawoods I found that people didn't take my advice seriously in girlmode. Same people who 'forgot' to bring food on a three day hike, and walked in brand new /pol/-boots because 'muh macho' until their feet became giant blisters and they cried like babies. Also, why don't people understand the difference between filtering and boiling water for drinking. I mean, that's basic hygiene stuff.

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>>7587406
*ooops, forgot zombie pic

>>7587354

i figure i'd do alright in a zombie scenario... for whatever reason plenty of people like me and are willing to do shit for me, i'm pretty fucking good at stealing and lying when i need to, and i know how to recognize plenty of wild food sources including some mushrooms cuz i love plants and shit... and i know a lot about cultivating and using medicinal herbs and whatnot...

being sick would fuck my shit up... but i've kicked the physical aspects of heroin addiction so i'm good to go

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>>7587406
People can barely "basic hygiene" day to day, let alone in the woods. It is a failing of our society, I tells ya.

>>7587440
>kicked the physical aspects of heroin addiction
Good on ya, bro!

Thieving is good... I got frost bite as a kid so I'm shit at lock picking anymore. I'm still decent at tacking but my wild food knowledge is very regional. Pac NW and Northern Prairies,mostly.

I piss my spouse off, eating "random" plants all the time. They're sure I'm going to die from it one day because they only eat food that comes wrapped in plastic.

>>7587150
>he's definitely trans because he's dated girls!!!
>but he's not trans because he's short and acts like those attention-whoring transtrenders
So which is it

>>7587472
kek

Even neesan is confused

>>7587509
niisan?

>>7587466

eh i'm broke as shit other than food money (which i only care about cuz of my birds desu otherwise i'd just starve and be high) and i can get free alcohol but not free h... so i had no choice... i'm drunk right now actually

is what it is, but i didn't do it by choice honestly... withdrawal sucked, but i weaned down first... i had been taking it every day for idk how long... i lost track... this started in october but i went through mild withdrawal twice and shit withdrawal once

i'm still gonna do it, but i'm gonna be better about the 3 day rule at the very least... if i can, i'm trying to not be overly confident, but eh

frostbite sounds shit, how bad was it? i used to practice picking locks as a kid (my first life goal as a kid aside from being batman or cobra commander was to be a professional thief so i used to build forts out of my toys and then hide in the center picking locks and shit at like 4 years old cuz i decided it had to be a secret), but i haven't since i was like 6 so i'm out of practice there...

my s/o and i try finding shit together... i know how to recognize some shit that isn't just northeast regional but i do know that best... like i said i love plants so i know a good deal of shit about them (including ones to get high on that people don't necessarily think about and smokeable ones) just cuz i'm a fucking loser who does shit like get high and read botany books to kill time, and he's really into finding wild food to cook with cuz he likes cooking and it's a chance to try new ingredients that you aren't gonna necessarily find in a store...

>>7587565
Sorry I'm a retard I thought it was their brother

>>7587573
>>7587466

+ only thing is i'm kinda colour blind... so i don't entirely trust myself 100% even if i know how to spot something

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>>7587509
Both the neesan and the otouto seem confused here.

>>7587573
>frostbite sounds shit, how bad was it?
Pretty low level, but it fucked up sensitivity in my fingers and toes. Circulation in my feet is terrible, they can't really warm themselves up anymore. I usually warm them on a heater before bed, or get the dog to lay on my feet.

My grandmother used to send all the kids out with pails and tell us to pick what we thought was edible, but to just put it in our pail and bring it all to her. Then she'd have us all lean in while she inspected stuff and would tell us what was or wasn't actually safe... what things were poison, what things were normally good but why this particular one was bad (worms, molds, etc) Then she'd use what we found and add it to supper. It was usually field mushrooms, wild onions, stuff like that in summer.

>>7587585
>Both the neesan and the otouto seem confused here.
In the situation? Yeah, big sis and lil bro both seem a bit confused. Just goes to show, even trans siblings don't handle another sibling's transition very well.

how the fuck do i put on a binder by myself? its not too small or anything its just when i get it over my shoulders it all rolls up up the back and i cant reach buy myself. also how do i get my boobs to stay in the same spot, they seem to move toward the middle and give me cleavage when i sit down

>>7590064
>1 Put your binder inside out and upside down.

>2 Step into your binder and pull the bottom of it up, ideally to your belt line. The binder should still be inside out and upside down.

>3 Use the sleeves as handles to pull the top of the binder (the end closer to your feet) up to your shoulders.

>4 Put your arms through the sleeve holes and adjust your chest to your needs. You may need to pull the bottom of the binder out from underneath itself if you don’t want it folded under. For others, leaving it folded under may help stop the binder from rolling up.

http://transguys.com/features/chest-binding

>>7590083
wont this just stretch it out since im super bottom heavy

There's no point in doing any of this. Just wear a shitty suit and implant a huge fake adam's apple and no one could mistake you.

>>7590457
Where is it from? Underworks style binders are tough enough to handle that, GC2B aren't, but they're also easier to get over your head.

>>7590516
its from underworks, ill try that then, thanks. will this also solve the uniboob/cleavage problem?

>>7590469
you'd be amazed how much of this is tried and tested methods

a moment of thought for all the trans men of antiquity who had to get by on dressing just so and modifying their speech and actions with no access to hormones or surgery for their entire lives

>>7590541
Not necessarily. Stick your hands down and adjust them outwards.

>>7590642
You hear stories about those who pulled it off, is the amazing thing. Vintage stealth must have had some magic behind it.

>>7590675
It still works if you ever meet an old conservative person. If you have short hair and are wearing pants, no matter how unpassing you are they will call you a guy and if you're the ugliest hon in a dress they will call you a woman. They just automatically treat you like that because everyone in their world wears the similar types of clothes and crossdressing isn't a big meme to them.

I'm really obsessed with males in media (films, TV shows etc.) and I love reading gay fanfiction or reading homo porn doujins all day but when it comes to irl I'm not really interested in other males. I have a long term gf and I've only ever dated women.
So I'm wondering, is this obsession with fictional males some kind of fixation carried over from a dysphoric childhood? Is it just some kind of AAP?
I kind of hate this part of myself but I don't see how denying it would get me anywhere, I'd rather try to understand it.
Any thoughts? Anyone have similar feelings?

>>7587637

that sucks, but at least it was low level... my hands and feet are always cold too idk what's up with it never had it checked out, probably circulation or some shit my nailbeds are frequently pale and blue-ish and my s/o tells me i feel like i have corpse hands often...

what your grandma used to do sounds cool as shit... i never grew up like that, it was in an interest i just developed on my own... not exactly a lot of people who give a shit about plants in brooklyn, especially when i was growing up

though i've found wild grapes and whatnot in the park by me... there's a surprising amount of edible plants in the parks here if you know how to find them

my s/o and i have a bunch of books on that sorta thing and we wander around with them when it's nice out... he actually has a pretty good knack for guessing what's edible, though the dumbass also ate a nightshade berry by accident once too

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>tfw can never enter an intimate relationship without outing myself
>tfw will never experience the excitement of picking up a hot stranger at a bar and having a one night stand

So I had a purpose to opening this thread, but I've completely lost it as I read through all the posts.
I guess I'll just be a huge tool then and ask if any of the guys in here would be interested in talking to an incredibly lonely cis guy who's boyfriend just dumped him
willnye2cool is my skype and my discord is Limelight#2487

I know this isn't what these threads are for but fuck it, I'm desperate to just talk to ANYONE but everyone I add on /soc/ is a douchebag

>>7590898
Get a convincing dildo and a blindfold.

>>7590991
that's rape tho

>>7590967
i don't have many people to talk to either, can't promise i'll make great conversation, but if you want i can add you. if you're into any co-op game that's better
why here of all places though?

>>7591595
Like I said I had an actual reason when I opened the thread, but I ended up just spending over an hour reading through the whole thing before I got to the end and forgot the point of it.
But yeah games would be like.. better, something to actually do and all that, just like addme though I guess?

>>7591973
i'll add ya on skype

>>7592048
Fair warning, I have actual autism so like, I get a bit extra sometimes.

>>7590898
This. I'll never be in college and able to fuck girls like chad does.

>>7590854
I'd chalk that up to AAP, but that's without considering any dysphoria you feel towards your body as a female.
Are you comfortable being a girl? Do you project into male characters and feel more comfort doing that?

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>>7592063
>a bit extra

>>7592063
>>7592609
>tfw MtF and didn't even understand this slang, had to look it up on Urban

I guess there really is no escaping socialization.

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Daily reminder that you are all awesome faggots

>>7592668
also you

i hate looking at porn and thinking "wow I'd fuck her" and then remembering that i can't because i have no dick. it kills my boner and my soul.

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>>7593269

eh there's plenty shit to do with a chick to get you both off, and all of it is a good time...

>>7577668
a lot of shit, but...

i spent a lot of this morning and some of last night in the hospital with my s/o today... usually it's me in there, this time it was him... he wanted to kill himself last night, almost did... but i got him there, and he was mad at me at first... spent the night away then came back in the morning to bring his id and coat and whatnot... he wanted me there by then so i stayed, his sis was there some of last night... i came home to drink more and then wandered around chainsmoking, talking to a friend of mine... 'til i met up with his sis when she left the hospital to talk about what was going on...

sleeping in a bed alone was fucking weird, first time in idk how long...

spent the morning and most of the afternoon going back and forth to the er... alternating between his bed there, home to take care of the birds, and doing shit like getting him food...

we had breakfast together in his bed, then i laid down with him and we fell asleep for a little while... watched videos and listened to music cuddling and shit...

talked a lot to this old woman in the bed across from him who thought we were siblings... actually everyone in the hospital asked if we were siblings... people always think that shit, neither of us get it though

he was gonna stay, but he couldn't stand the er anymore and it was taking too long so he decided we should leave...

i can't blame him...all that fucking beeping was giving us both headaches, the sheets are awful.. someone was always nearby to watch him a few feet from the bed, no windows... he was getting claustrophobic for a lot of reasons

could only pretend the heart monitors and shit were radar with me, and that the screen above us (pic related) was like something out of an old survival horror game for so long...

i'm worried about him, but this isn't the first time... so idk what to think...

>a week and a half off t because poor
>get period/spotting really bad

>years ago it'd take a good month for that to happen

Why? Is my dose too low? My dose has been .25ml since 2010.

>>7593794
>spotting

As an MtF, what is this? I thought that was a pregnancy thing?

I always like learning about this stuff so I can pass better in conversations.

>>7593808
My uterus isn't a geyser of blood and decay. Spotting is very light which tends to not be very vibrant and can be as light as just some pink.
Besides pregnant I think it also can happen to women on birth control, or can also be a sign of something is wrong(like how anorexics may not have periods at all).

I'm definitely not pregnant unless I've had some extraterrestrial visitors I wasn't aware of.

>>7593867
No, I'm asking what spotting actually is, like where it is and what it looks like, but I'll just look it up because I feel like I'm starting to sound stupid lol

>>7593883
It's like a period but lighter. The amount of blood that comes out during a period is usually quite a lot, and spotting is just a smaller amount. Not enough to consider it a period but you still have to wear liners or something to keep things from getting stained.

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>be pre t ftm
>cosplay as girl characters sometimes for attention
>if in cos for too long, dissociate, regret

>>7593942
I admittedly cosplay as girl characters because I'm short as shit and can still pass for a girl. Might as well make use of it, yknow.
I just can't do cosplays that show too much skin, then it gets into dysphoria territory.

my surgeon requires a month off of T before top surgery and im terrified that ill get my period even though i know it's unlikely to happen

>>7593697
Well fuck. Why did he try to hero? Are you guys moving now or what's happening? Is he okay?

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>>7593955
Yea, I feel you on that. Most revealing I'll do is pic related.

>>7593967
The two other ftms I know only did maybe two weeks off. It's because of the risk for post-surgery blood clots and it apparently delays wound healing.

Mtfs have to stop too I think.

>>7593969

a lot of reasons... being back in brooklyn has been a fucking experience to say the least... yeah we're moving, idk where or when yet but i'm working on it... he's just always had bad depression issues and this happens sometimes, he refused to get help for a long time but i've been convincing him to give it a try... he's under a lot of stress, and adds on the stress of feeling like he has to take care of both me and his younger sister completely (even though that's not the case) + shit with his narcissist mom and his little bro turning out to be a lot like her...

everything is a mess pretty much...

he's calmed down a lot... we came home and sat around watching movies together and laying in bed... can only just see where his head is at in any given moment really but he hasn't hurt himself or anything

he's open to the idea of getting help too so there's that...

got drunk and found some weed... surprise drugs always make a bad day a little better...

sorta unrelated: i always wonder what people if all the people who think he's my older sibling get weirded out when they see us kiss... or if they figure it out

>>7590690
Pretty sure I've seen guys who had an easier time passing in more conservative countries pass through this thread before, yeah. The expectations of people around them really did make it easier in a certain respect for our forebears- women just Did Not Come in that shape or wear or do those things, ipso facto, that's gotta be a man.

Not that there weren't eras that fooled around with that plenty. Or at least bitched about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlfQ49Bq1s

/bornwithdick/ here, you're all fucking gay fuckshits
ama for big bro advice or weird questions
stay strong, take your vitamins, get to sleep on time

>>7594416
It's 2AM
You can't make me sleep

>>7593977
>>7593967
>stopping T
>for top surgery
Where the barbaric fuck are you and who are your backwards ass doctors?

>>7595201
That's normal. At least in Florida where most trans guys I know get top surgery (I live in California).

>>7595210
That is not normal in New England. No one I've known out of the group of 7 trans guys had to stop T to get top surgery, barring one guy who got it pre-T.

>>7594416
kill yourself

>>7595236
I am in New England and I was also told to stop T before top surgery. I haven't found one yet that hasn't told me I can stay on it between looking around the east coast as far down as NJ. The two ftms I know(one in maine, one in virginia) know also had to stop.

>>7594062

- what people* my bad...

i guess i was drunker than i realized last night, or higher... both, i guess...

i just find the sibling thing strange i really don't see it... we look really different, and while we do think of each other as siblings on some level cuz that's how shit was before we were dating... that's not quite the same as people thinking we look that way... and idk i've known couples who legit looked like that and it's weird to see them together

>>7593942
I've cosplayed as girls, generally feel okay about it. To me it just kinda cements that it's dress-up and pretend, y'know? Like it's so obviously an exception from what I usually do any look like.

>>7594416
How do I in2 big brother for my little brother

>>7596287
Gay couples get read as siblings all the time, especially if they're not drastically different in appearance. It's a thing, people forget that gay people exist.

>>7596578
>How do I in2 big brother for my little brother
sellotape him to his bed while he sleeps

>>7596578

even before we were dating people thought that (he also isn't older than me, we're the same age and he's a few months younger) of us... i've heard we look related from a lot of people, but i find it weird cuz we have different facial features, hair textures, skin tones, builds etc

it just always throws me off...

>>7590898
only alpha guys can do that anyway

>>7593967
Ask him to minimize it. I only had to go off t two weeks before and two weeks after for top surgery, so only one month total.

>>7595210
I'm in FL and both garramone and sassani ask you to stop t. They're both pretty much the best at what they do so I would trust them. I went to sassani and he was great, my scars look really good. Although I'm only 4 weeks out so still waiting for my pepperoni nipples to heal.

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How can an ftm require a femboy irl? I've never seen one. Are they unicorns.

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>>7597441
>require
Acquired

>returd
retard

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>>7597500
>Acquired
acquire

>returd
just stop trying

just as mtfs can have surgery to make their faces more feminine, can ftms have surgery to make their faces more masculine???

>>7597790
It's not as common, but yes. I expect it to be more popular as more people blab about trans 'tells'.

How much does an average top surgery cost?

>>7597790
If cis men can do it so can we?

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post about ftm hons you know

>tiny ginger ftm at my uni
>doesn't bind
>constantly posts on FB about how pence is going to electrocute him
>somehow got on T so he sounds like morgan freeman in the body of a 5th grade girl

>>7597790
it's not very common, usually our faces pass fine just from testosterone.

>>7598339
>tiny ginger
>sounds like morgan freeman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpI_tpVft-Q

Did anyone have to have a blood test and/or general medical MOT before getting to a GIC, much less getting on T? My GP didn't tell me I'm due to go in for these things but it seems I am, guessing it's got something to do with my new referral.

>>7598544
my GIC gave me the option of getting my bloods done straight after (literally the same day) as my t referral, but i had already started t privately whilst i was on the waiting list. which, to be honest, i recommend if you can spare the extra dosh, since the only other option is waiting 1.5+ years for the NHS to pull their finger out their arse when you're already mentally desperate enough to have gathered the courage to ask for a referral.

unless your t referral is impending pretty soon, any bloods taken now might be a touch outdated by the time it comes around. if you're freshly on the waiting list and your GP asked you to get tests done, it's probably less trans-related and more a general health check up since you popped yourself up on their radar.

>>7598339
>>7598536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiqwElepfE

>>7598942
kek

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>tfw too smol to bodyslam
Will I get tol or do I have to move to Asia to become people sized?

>all the male shirts I own reveal my binder collar
>have cleavage while sitting down
>hips too wide to fit in male jeans
>boobs still jiggle in binder
does it ever end dudes

>>7599370
>boobs still jiggle in binder
H-how?

>>7593942
Another pre-t ftm cosplayer
Do girly boys and reverse traps instead

http://expecting0transguy.tumblr.com/
Why do trender faggots do this? Don't call yourself a man if you get knocked up.

>motorcycle license cost as much as top surgery
;_; I hate my country. It's like 200 bucks in the states.

>>7599384
idk, they just jiggle when I walk

>>7599434
Ever seen Alien?

>>7599434
>my husband is straight but it's ok because He Loves Me!
>bringing a baby into that

yeah, uh...i wish them the best

>>7597126
>>7595634
>>7595236
>Do I need to stop taking testosterone prior to or immediately after surgery?

>Definitely have this discussion with your Surgeon as there are different opinions about this. There are two main reasons that Surgeons recommend stopping T before and/or after surgery:

>1. Some studies have shown a correlation between testosterone levels and delayed wound healing
>2. Testosterone tends to thicken blood, increasing the risk deep vein thrombosis (blood clots.)
>3. Both of these reasons have been debated, and there's some evidence that suggests that testosterone actually helps with the prevention of post-operative deep vein thrombosis and eases pain from incisions.

>If there's a chance of improved healing without T, then it's probably worth stopping—unless you're one of those guys who experiences a big drop in mood and energy levels without T. Either way, discuss with your Surgeon.


Our surgeons in MA had us stay on T to keep levels normal instead of risking hormonal imbalance spotting/periods starting. Then again no one I know has high blood pressure or anything hieghtening blood clot risks.

If only we had more research (read: any) in ftm treatments...

>>7598051
Depends.

$2,000-11,000 USD for just surgery.

See:
http://www.topsurgery.net/costs/

>>7599690
Thanks

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