Is it actually even possible for a mtf to ever obtain a good

It's possible, just difficult. This chick is a great example, although she occasionally posts dramatic freakouts where the mask starts to crack a little bit, but when she's level-headed, her voice is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWlG1DP7aGg&t=2s

>>7530659
You can if you get the same voice surgery Korean pop stars get to sound like chipmunks

Even some femboy was getting it http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7179853/

>>7530706
yeson isn't the same voice surgery as that, and it's not as brilliant as advertised
yeson only posts the good results, some are awful
there are surgeons in the us using the same technique and getting the same average spectrum of results, though very few -- all i know of is one guy in portland
also you still have to voice train after

>>7530721
It wouldn't be hard to turn a tenor that sounds like an underage boy to a contra-alto

It only ended bad when people overreach

I have taken voice lessons from a tranny on this board before (Zhea). She is a literal genius tier musician and has acquired a perfect voice. She is the only flawless cis-fem voice I've heard yet.

>>7530751
do you have any links to her voice or lessons somewhere?

>>7530822
I'm not sure where recordings are of her voice. I first found out about her by taking music lessons and then I asked about voice lessons.

I don't think she would want me to post her Email but you can get in contact with her or check out her work at: https://zheaerosemusic.bandcamp.com/

My voice still isn't perfect but its improved tremendously since I worked with her. I don't take voice lessons with her anymore, just general music lessons.

>>7530675
That's a nasal tranny voice desu.