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Let's do a little bit of math here: The societies and cultures

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Let's do a little bit of math here:
The societies and cultures with the highest birth rates are those who hold very conservative and traditionalist values. They tend to be very anti-LGBT and anti-feminism.
Blacks who are big church or mosque goers.
Latinos who are big church goers.
Muslim peoples. Let's not delude ourselves with some No True Scotsman bs.
Chinese and South-East Asians.
Indians are the only exemption, so and so, given some of their branches or tribes put religious value in transgenders, which you can Google up easily if you are interested.

On the other hand, the nations and countries where native natality/mortality rates are horrible, are self-exterminating proportionally to the level of acceptance they have for LGBT and feminist values.

So. What shall we all do when the very people who protect our values and are insulted by us on a daily basis are no more, and they are substituted by cultures and societies who actually proliferate due to their conservative values?
Insulting and being condescending against straight whites suddenly seems like a pretty shitty idea.
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>>7488139
This is where my plan of biologically eliminating dimorphism (a natural prejudice inducer) comes into place. Naturally this includes the elimination of dimorphic races but that's not the main point.
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>>7488139
>Insulting and being condescending against straight whites suddenly seems like a pretty shitty idea.
I am condescending against ALL straights.
After all they're the root of this problem, aren't they?
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>>7488139
>Insulting and being condescending against straight whites suddenly seems like a pretty shitty idea.

Nobody does this, stop deluding yourself into thinking you're actually persecuted.
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>>7488139
It is straight white women that push white hate in the lgbt community. Straight white men need to get their bitches under control.
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>>7488139
The only logical conclusion is that conservative values must be exterminated globally. This has already been largely achieved in the West, now we must strive to induce similar social changes throughout the west of the world. Reproduction, when it happens at a high rate, ceases to be a creative force, and indeed becomes a destructive one. When population growth outpaces education and industrial productivity, we see the growth of a violent criminal underclass.

Arguing for societal regression because you feel threatened by the third world is equivalent to saying "90% of houses in my neighborhood are on fire, better set my house on fire too lest the fires spread to it from other houses". It's not about white versus non-white, or Westerners versus non-Westerners, or first world versus third world. It's about civilization versus savagery. It doesn't matter if the savagery overruns our civilization from the inside, or from the outside. It's savagery either way. Our solution should be to eliminate savagery whereever it exists, not to resort to savagery to protect ourselves from it.

Also, "being condescending against straight whites" has nothing to do with the situation you describe. Millions of straights don't decide to stop having kids just because some queer feminist started talking about rape culture. It's a simple fact of the demographic transition - highly developed societies value small quantities of skilled labor, rather than large quantities of unskilled labor, so it is simply not economically logical to have more kids than you can fund the education of.

>>7489114
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You need to stop thinking that it is your duty to "control" women, that is savagery. If women hate whites, you need to look at why, and seek to rectify that problem, if you believe whites should not be hated. Any society that achieves stability through oppression is doomed to collapse.
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>>7489207
>If women hate whites, you need to look at why

Because it's easier to hate something than think rationally.
Hate is the oldest and most core escapist emotion.
Everything in life is simpler if you have a target to hate, and even better if you can conjure reasons to make your hate feel self-righteous.
Using past history to leverage a self-righteous hate crusade in the present is the oldest of tricks, used by various Empires throughout history, various religions, various ideologies; and the common ground connecting them all is making that crusade look righteous and just and moral on the surface.
Because then you can be condescending and you can pull self-satisfaction from it. You can satiate your vanity and a sense of self-importance even though you achieved nothing but spread more hate.
The most glorious feeling in this world is the feeling of being sanctioned to police and persecute someone on a whim, to control their actions and thoughts, to shame them for having preferences and individuality that are not up to your ideal.
It is extremely satisfying to play God with certain target groups, to break them, to insult them and spit on them without repercussion, down to regulating their personal sex lives on moral ground.
To fight your enemy by becoming worse than them is the epitome of pleasure, and even more so when you are being backpatted for it.

It is beautiful to anger white straight males,
it is gratifying.
It is exhilarating to force them into a corner like dogs, because that's what they are. Dogs to be put on a leash.
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>>7488139
>On the other hand, the nations and countries where native natality/mortality rates are horrible, are self-exterminating proportionally to the level of acceptance they have for LGBT and feminist values.
Japan and South Korea are far below replacement levels yet reject feminism and have low acceptance of lgbt
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>>7489636
>and have low acceptance of lgbt
>Japan with the vegie boys and big trans acceptance
>low acceptance of lgbt
Only a feminist butthurt about
>muh sexualization and objectification
would utter such uninformed stupidity.
Japan goes even as far as to socially accept incest while the only anti-shit is the banning of incestuous marriage on paper to appease
>muh Western morals

The Abrahamic religions were never in East Asia for anti-LGBT sentiments to specifically ever form, you daft idiot.

As far as feminist shit goes though, you are correct.
But then again this board isn't called
>feminism
it is called
>LGBT
so nobody gives a shit about privileged white women's opinions.

Get your ass out and come back when you have learned some things.
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>>7489912
>assuming I'm a feminist
>same sex marriage is not recognized in Japan
>never mentioned Abrahamic religions
>ignoring that Korea has always been homophobic regardless of contact with Abrahamic religions
The argument made is that societies that fail to meet replacement levels are due to feminism and lgbt acceptance.
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>>7489979
>same sex marriage is not recognized in Japan
You have shit coming out of your mouth instead of your ass.
Shinto marriage doesn't ban gay marriage and there have always been gay marriages happening under the Shinto ceremony, Kanamara Shrine wedding being an example.
Shinto is vague about gay marriage, or in other terms it looks aside.

>but muh Abrahamic cuckligion
Japan is not the West.
Japan is not something you judge based on your own shitty culture and values.
Japan has no obligation to give a single shit about foreign institutions and foreign inventions.
You judge it based on Japanese and only Japanese values themselves.
And Japanese values are clear and easy for you to look up.

As i said, go fucking educate yourself.
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>>7490008
The Japanese government doesn't recognize it. Any discussion of Shinto's views on same sex marriage is irrelevant.
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>>7490049
>The Japanese government doesn't recognize it.
The Japanese government isn't Shinto and isn't obligated to recognize marriage in general, whatever sexual orientation, whatever gender, whatever race, whatever religions.
Religious ceremonies are for religious institutions to decide.
If you don't like one, well guess what? You have freedom of choice, and you can pick to get married elsewhere.
The government of Japan does both religious tolerance and the tolerance of individual rights in a perfect balance and correctly, which is more than can be said of most countries in this world.

The only thing the Japanese government is obligated towards is
1. Not banning same-sex sexual activity, which it doesn't.
2. Not banning LGBT people from running office, which it doesn't since one of their government officials in the past 15 years was a transgender just for starters.
3. Not disallowing trans people to change their gender, which it doesn't. That some people are too stupid to do it correctly or misuse the freedom they have is another topic which only harms the LGBT.

You don't know shit about Japan and LGBT.
Maybe you should pull that Western shit out of your ass, because the buzzwords you are used to throwing in the West don't go in a completely different culture you know nothing about, comprehend nothing about, and have no connection with.
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>>7489912
I don't think you've actually been to Japan anon..
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>>7490098
>The Japanese governement offers no legal protection for employment or housing discrimination against lgbt individuals
>nip being this butthurt
>nip going off tangent this hard
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>>7490008
Just so you know, uh, same sex marriage is not recognized legally in Japan. That's via a quick google search dude, like are you even trying?

Japan is definitely not trans friendly, the only jobs available to trans people there are in porn unless you can pass flawlessly. Company contracts have strict rules on how to dress and violating them allows for dismissal. Hence why I left Japan.

Just because getting HRT is easy, does not mean society accepts it.
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>>7490127
>The Japanese governement offers no legal protection for employment or housing discrimination against lgbt individuals
You bet they don't, because LGBT individuals get the same protection as everyone else, because they are equal to everyone else and not a separate class.
Not only that, but you almost never hear of any discrimination against LGBT individuals in Japan,
because Japan doesn't give a shit about sexuality and gender, because it's not something to think about just like the Sun shining isn't something to think about. It's treated as
>meh

What the Japanese government does offer is an individual right to be what you want to be, to love who you want to love, to fuck who you want to fuck.
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>>7490140
>Japan is definitely not trans friendly
>Company contracts have strict rules on how to dress
And who made you the fashion judge on how trans people should clothe themselves?
If you have legally changed your gender, as you can, then you are not barred from dressing that way.
Now as far as the more complex multi-gendered branches go, tough luck, get over it and then change into whatever you want at home or on outside ventures.

This is nearing the levels of "mommy bought me the wrong iPhone color" shit.
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>>7488139
white dudes are not oppressed fuck off

if you want to improve birth rates improve economic conditions, that is literally the only thing that matters. It has nothing to do with the 3-5% of people that are exclusively homo

this shit doesn't belong on this board you fucking idiot go to back to >>>/pol/
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>>7490145
Everyone else doesn't have to worry about being evicted or fired because they were accidentally outed.

In Japan participants in a same sex relationship do not benefit from legislation regarding domestic violence afforded to straight couples.
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>>7490227
>if you want to improve birth rates improve economic conditions
>ignore that only the richest nations have a problem with birth rates
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>>7490250
If you did any research you would know that 'intended' fertility rate is already higher than replacement level. Young people WANT to have families and kids, they just don't have the means to

to think that low birth rates are a result of the proliferation of GSM people is absolutely ludicrous and just shows blatant hatred
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>>7488139
Asian birthrate is actually quite shit lately. It's something that happens when people's wealth and quality of life improve.
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>>7488139
>The societies and cultures with the highest birth rates are those who hold very conservative and traditionalist values.

Thats not a clear cut. Adrican savages breed the most and they have no traditions really, they are just underdeveloped.
Japanese are very very conservative and traditionalist and they dont breed at all.
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>>7490266
>oh yeah I totally want to have kids ... but I prefer to get a career and spend money on material things and slut around instead of starting a family, but I really want kids...someday maybe

there is a almost negative correlation between brtihrates and wealth
improving economic conditions doesnt solve anything
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>>7489912
>The Abrahamic religions were never in East Asia for anti-LGBT sentiments

wat

you really think that azns aren't homophobic as all get out? Trust me, they are. the only exceptions are Cambodia and Thailand because they are naturally super low test but even there it's fully acknowledged as deviant and shameful
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>>7490316
>the only exceptions are Cambodia and Thailand because they are naturally super low test
No it's because half of their economy thrives on sex tourism.
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>>7490266
>If you did any research you would know that 'intended' fertility rate is already higher than replacement level
Source on this if you don't mind. World bank numbers show that most of the first world isn't at replacement levels and it doesn't take into account just the native population.

I never said low birth rates are because of gays. The number gays in any population is too negligible for it to impact this number
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>>7490334

>implying sex workers aren't low test beta failures with no other options thanks to their personal shortcomings
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>>7490397
>Asian sex workers
>low test beta failures
You don't get more evil than the asian sex worker.
With luck they just steal your wallet after you wake up in a shady hotel room.
Worst case they took your kidney too.
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>>7490313
>I need to stop advancing my career if I'm to gestate and raise small children
>husband can't support a family on a single paycheque


Seriously do you know a single young couple that can finance a small home and couple of children? most of my friends can barely pay for their shitty apartments together, not to mention they are busy paying off school debts and other bullshit. Getting a mortgage is out of the question until your late 20's usually. No one wants to raise kids in sub-optimal circumstances so people continuously fall short of their fertility intentions

>>7490343
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/~/media/Files/DPE/Reports/fertility-levels-and-intentions-in-nsw-2014-06.ashx
>Over the 2002-2012 the average intended completed family size for NSW women in the 18 to 44
years age group remained fairly consistently at around 2.2 children per woman.

They talk about it here, the intended rate is higher than replacement everywhere, it's just a matter of failing to realize it
http://link.springer.com.sci-hub.cc/article/10.1353/dem.2003.0037

Also some more sources behind a paywall
https://www.ined.fr/en/everything_about_population/demographic-facts-sheets/focus-on/fertility-intentions/
https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/88/2/543/2235143/Education-Differences-in-Intended-and-Unintended
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>>7490313
Also see pic related, the countries that are struggling most are the ones that are poorest, it's because people don't have the means to form families and finance children, not because of muh traditionalist values or whatever
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>>7490179
>If you have legally changed your gender, as you can, then you are not barred from dressing that way.
What are the prerequisites for legally changing your gender in Japan?
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>>7489207
Women hate whites /because/ whites don't control their women. You have no fucking clue how the female mind works.
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>>7488161
Are black people dimorphc?, id like them to be eliminated...
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>>7490779
Are you a female? What are your qualifications to understand how "the female mind" works?
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>>7494669
Nah dude he's got this, female mind works best when males control it and it just so happens that it's an arrangement which totally favours him, it's a coincidence that that is the case and is not at all related to all his shitty preconceptions
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