Defining TruTrans™

>>7473698
Doesn't that just mean femboys with bad BDD are really the truest of the true?

>>7473698
Only caraposter and skull-chan are trutrans on this board.

They are straight or bi, since women are inherently bisexual.

Transition helps them feel better, but they still feel dysphoric about things which cannot be changed.

Higher rate of passing.

Naturally feminine.

Young transition, typically start before 20.

Typically very feminine in childhood, though this is sometimes repressed through a harshly conservative upbringing.

Would rather die than be a man. Having a wife and fathering children is deeply horrifying to them.

Not Charaposter or Skull-chan

>>7473698
>dysphoria isn't cured by transitioning or SRS

You're just not transitioning hard enough.

>attracted to men (not femboys)

Real women are bisexual.

>feminine body/skull from being feminized in the womb

Ah I see, so you started Pearlposting to conceal your identity. Was getting caught part of your plan?

What about ftm?

Also, why does trutrans matter? Like legit, I never see it used as anything but a) transgirls using it to put other transgirls down to feel better about themselves or b) transgirls using it as an excuse as to why they're not doing something about their dysphoria/misery (because they're not ~trutrans~ anyway so there's totally nothing they can do about things at hand).

>Real women are bisexual.
Guys, don't take /lgbt/ or a small portion of a younger generation in your specific country as basis to say all women are bisexual.

Also I don't want to be mean to any of you but if you guys wasted more time trying to pass instead of labeling who deserves more pills made for menopause you all would probably be a bit happier.

Seriously, we aren't the rule, we are the exception.

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>>7473783
FTMs can't be trutrans because masculinity is entirely socially constructed by women. It is not innate.

>>7473820
This tbqh

>>7473820
>Femininity only exist in relation to masculinity
>Just like masculinity only exist in relation to femininity
>But femininity is somehow also innate
>While masculinity isn't
>Wat

Wtf does femininity/masculinity even mean to you people?

mtf - phantom vagina
ftm - phantom penis

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>>7473858
Masculinity was constructed as a means of preserving femininity.

>>7473820
Getting sick of your shit Caraposter. I'm innately masculine. Not my fault that you're a femboy twink.

>>7473908
>>7473907
Cara isn't a femboy and he refuses to use Meds the way femgen does so he'd have rotten at any rate.

>>7473903
>mtf - phantom vagina
A-are you sure this isn't just me being crazy? I had this so much when I was younger. I was almost convinced I had like a secret vagina hidden under my perineum which was gonna save me from being a man one day.

Obviously I lost hope once puberty happened and I realized how silly that was.

>>7473698
>passes/looks cute
>normal sense of style and makeup
>short and thin, female digit ratio from feminization in the womb
>knows she is female from the first signs of consciousness

>>7473942
>short and thin, female digit ratio from feminization in the womb
So in otherwords femboys are the only true

>>7473937
It's real, you didn't know about that? Didn't it ever strike you as strange that trans women never have phantom penis sensations after SRS? Their brain/body mapping literally tells them they should have a vagina.

>is dead

>>7473959
Are there good studies on this? Scientific proof I'm not totally nuts would feel nice.

Why is defining "trutrans" useful.

Literally who does it help. Like, why are you thinking about this instead of watching porn or eating candy or literally anything else

>>7474012
found the agp

it's so we can advocate that real trans women get access to treatment while fetishists do not

>>7473984
V.S. Ramachandran "Occurrence of phantom genitalia after gender reassignment surgery". Around 60% of cis-men who have had to have their penis amputated for cancer will experience a phantom penis. Data from several dozen post-operative subjects lends support to our prediction that they have a lower incidence of phantom penis/breast sensations than ‘‘normal’’ individuals who have undergone amputation of the same appendage, for other medical reasons. More remarkably our prediction that female-tomale transsexuals would have a phantom penis also 1002 Ramachandran and McGeoch seems to be correct. Indeed, more than half of the around 30 female-to-male transsexuals we have interviewed, claim to have experienced this, often since early childhood.

>>7473984
Dr. Ramachandran did do a study on it, but the sample sizes are too small to mean very much I'm afraid. Also it doesn't address phantom vaginas at all, just that trans women generally don't have phantom penis sensations after SRS compared to cis men who lose their penises, and FtMs generally have phantom penis sensations, and no phantom breast feelings after top surgery.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/GENDER-IDENTITY-AND-PHANTOM-GENITALIA-3219560.php

>>7474012
Hons are a major enemy of real trans women. the run around, acting like perverts, looking disgusting, annoying feminists into outright hatred of us. They intensify normies hatred of us.

We need a scientific way to combat these AGP weirdos so real trans girls can get the help they need.

>>7474022
Not them but Tbh only people to ever use the word were creepy old overcompensating Hons in the therapist's office.

Which likely makes you a hon overcompensating for hondom with preaching.

>>7474039
*they run around

>>7474039
Yeah but: >>7474039

It's usually hons who talk like you. Why don't we just purge hons instead.

>>7474022
> found the agp
You're fucking stupid. You devalue your whole movement saying retarded shit like this. Makes you sound like you post on 4chan.

if you want to be the opposite gender

>>7474096
Lots of cis people want to be the "opposite" gender but have no real feelings of actually being that gender. Lots of trans people want to be the "opposite" gender, too -- I'm saying lots of trans people wish they weren't.

I'd say a TRUE trans person is anyone who has a gender they were not assigned at birth. Any other definition has zero tangible benefit. Any other definition only hurts trans people.

>>7474056
What? Hons are usually the ones rabidly denying the existence of AGP. It's mostly young transitioners who think AGP is a valid theory.

>>7474096
>"opposite gender"

Jeez, maybe AGP really does exist...

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>>7474096
MTFs don't "want" to be the opposite sex the same way that cis people don't "want" to be themselves. If you have a desire rather than an innate recognition you're not trutrans.

>>7474160
>>7474138
>>7474115


should i start taking my t shots

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>>7474039
This. The suicide rate for trutrans is higher due to experiencing legitimate dysphoria.

>tfw caraposter only goal in life is to shitpost as multiple people when not stalking people that are disgusted by him on social media.

>>7474169
That is 100% up to you to figure out. Nobody else can give you advice on whether or not you should take hormones. Do you want to change your body? Hormone therapy is for changing your body. If that's what you need, that's what you need.

>>7474221
all these points are legitimate

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>>7473698
>dysphoria isn't CURED by transitioning or SRS
ture, but they help

>attracted to men (not femboys)
I don't see how being bi interferes with being TruTrans™, but yeah transbians are definatly not.

>feminine body/skull from being feminized in the womb
>short and thin, female digit ratio from feminization in the womb >>7473942
uuuh? weird psudoscience?

how about:

>Attracted to men ( Having a wife and fathering children is deeply horrifying to them. >>7473746
)
>Either transitioned or committed suicide by 20
>Willing to do anything to be as close to cis as possible (FFS, SRS)
>Can actually do a passing female voice
>full social integration ( girlfriends etc.)

>>7474322
>Either transitioned or committed suicide by 20
But this is just a meme criterion. There are a lot of ways to control a massively unwell person so as they don't commit suicide - not all of them involve locking conservative parents out of the room.

>>7474125
Nah, the therapists office hons belive in AGP. Also hate femboys.

They just happen to belive they're Tru trans. It's overcompensation.


And it's also why femboys and others who take hormones but don't pull their ima girl crap enrage them and they want to take away your meds.

Really it's just that a lot of grotesque old men can't handle that somone who calls himself a boy and dresses like them can pass and they can't. Not when they're supposed to be true.

>>7474322
>uuuh? weird psudoscience
2d:4d is affected by androgen receptor binding, hon. It's well proven, better de Trans.

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>>7474382
>tfw 1:1 digit ratio
I am the tranniest desu

Mentally Unstable is pretty trutrans.

Stop this roleplaying you faggots.

>>7474474
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7392568/#7392838
All the femboys have much higher ratios tho

>>7474554
>femboys are just trans girls with aap confirmed

I KNEW IT

>>7474554
I mean that was only one femboy, but 1.05 is like top >1% for males. Cool.

Also I was measuring my left hand. My right (dominant) hand is more like a 1.03. Which hand are you supposed to measure?

>>7474090
I do post on 4chan

>>7474602
The did a poll in their own, have very high levels over all

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Do you like making people sad? Honestly these threads do nothing but hurt people. I definitely believe there are some people in this world who lean more towards the sissy/fetish side of things and that these people aren't exactly helping the movement but setting so many barriers for entry as if being trans is some sort of exclusive club is just damaging.

>>7474801
it's literally a troll thread you dumbo

>>7474868
i know but you see them so much around here it makes me depressed..

>>7473698
It depends on if you mean classic trutrans or Tumblr tru-trans/scum.

>classic trutrans
Always behaved stereotypically feminine
Have stereotypical feminine taste
Straight
Wants srs
Always been dysphoric/wanted to be female

>truscum
Thinks you must want to physically transition to be trans
And/or must have felt dysphoria to be trans

>>7474956
first one is spot on

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>>7474801
This helps people.

>>7474881
*hug*
Everything will be okay

>>7476894
t-thanks anon..

How does one find a trutrans when the sole purpose of being trutrans is being stealth?

>>7478565
you don't in real life unless they out themselves. it's only on websites like this where you have no repercussions that you can really talk about yourself.