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No more Lesbian spaces

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http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/12/26/lesbian-spaces-still-needed-no-matter-what-queer-movement-says/

A friend liked this article. Read it, and basically the writer says that lesbians are losing their spaces because when LGBTQA people protest about inclusiveness for trans/"queer" people in cis spaces, it's usually lesbians who lose their hold and not men. However, she is content to chalk this up to patriarchy which is a totally unsatisfying explanation. So I'm thinking it's either 1) there are more MtF's than FtM's thus they complain and get up in arms or 2) men's spaces are already inclusive.
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>>7468810
Advocation for female spaces is advocating for female supremacy.
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>>7468810
kill all cis females.
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I'm a lesbian and think this is fucking retarded. Lesbians don't have "lesbian spaces" because they don't go to "lesbian spaces." Hell, the last lesbian bar in San Francisco of all places closed down a few years ago because lesbians just weren't going to it. Lesbians these days are meeting each other on OKCupid, getting in serious relationships, and living like normal Americans who just happen to be gay. The only reason gay men still have their gay bars everywhere is because enough gay men actively participate in and prop up their own hookup culture, which keeps it alive. Lesbians settle down earlier than gay men on average and never really had a big hookup scene anyways, and other than hookup bars there really is no need for "gay only" spaces. What are you going to have? A coffee shop or bookstore for lesbians only? You'd be out of business in a week because there just aren't enough lesbians willing to go there every weekend. This is stupid and we should be happy that we get to be normal American women who happen to like other normal American women.
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>>7468810
>2) men's spaces are already inclusive

It's probably this tbqh, and I hate men. But I can't deny that gaygen is just called gaygen here, but lesgen is called "cis lesgen" and they're railing against "bishits" at this very moment.
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Lesbians are scared of mtfs
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Lesbians don't go out desu. There are boring homebodies. They go on two dates, then just stay at home cuddling forever. Then they feel frustrated in the relationship and beat each other more often than not.

I might actually like girls if lesbians were more like guys.
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>>7468875
Men don't make drama.
If they don't want to dick a FtM they just don't dick them and most FtM won't cry about it (tumblr transtrenders do not apply here)

cis lesbians will make a show about it and discuss how they were abused by the MtF tranny for a week, the MtF tranny will probably do it too since she probably thinks like a female after all the estrogen.
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>>7468857
/thread
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>>7468875
Bisluts shouldnt post in a thread thats by and for lesbians. They have their own thread to post in.

Also FtM's arent complaining about their girl issues in gaygen whilest MtF's will complain about their male issues if its just called lesgen. We dont give a shit about their feminine penis and how he got rejected for it. They have their transbian thread for that.
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>>7468875
It's a different dynamic though as both "lesbian" MTFs and "gay" FTMs typically act out the heterosexual male/female dynamic that they've been socialized into, whenever they enter gay spaces. That's why MTFs work to dominate lesbian spaces, thus creating a obvious and loud presence, while the submissivity of FTMs allows them to be written off quickly by real gays.
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Why do trans women even want to be in cis lesbian spaces?

>they all look like dudes anyways
>lesbians act like they are abused by our very presence
>half of them absolutely hate us
>they are histrionic feminist tumblrites regardless
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>>7468810
It's actually cissexist misandry. They don't want men in lesbian spaces, and they view trans women as men.

Lesbian spaces are always accepting of trans men (i.e. females), but it's the trans women (i.e. males) that usually complain about them not being inclusive.

Basically males (aka trans women aka creepy males) are invading a space that is designed for females who like females - not males who like females. In fact males who like females are precisely the kind of people lesbian spaces are trying to avoid.

Simple stuff.
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>>7468942
Why that girl is dressing as an autistic boy?
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>>7468920
>hating your penis is a "male issue"

Ehhhhhhhhh I can understand not liking transbians for being creepy but that's a bit of a gray area imo, also I'm assuming there are a bunch of transbians who still post in your sacred thread and just don't talk about their "male issues", the 2D posters are probably all trans desu

>>7468931
Fuck off creep

>>7468932
You've been on this board too long, I know I said that female spaces are more exclusionary but I doubt you'd have many problems IRL.
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>>7468974
>You've been on this board too long, I know I said that female spaces are more exclusionary but I doubt you'd have many problems IRL.
I mean I doubt I'd have much of a problem since I'm young and feminine, but I'm still kinda scared of lesbians in general because of how vocal the ones who hate us are.

They'd prolly double hate me since I'm straight, but think lesbianism is super cute because I read way too much yuri.
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>>7468974
All trans issues are male issues.
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>>7468942
no its cisexist transmisogyny. 'cis women's spaces' would be more accurate. Its as disgusting as white only women's spaces.I can understand spaces for cis women to unlearn transmisogyny tho.

>>7468932
idk cis people are dumb. Like I hate it when women's spaces are mostly cis. When you think about it, any oppression they experience is half what trans women go through. They're practically men.
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>>7468875
apparently this is a really unpopular opinion for a cis les but i just want a female lgbt space that isnt railing against mtf and/or bi women but still caters to grills
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>>7468931
wow so essentialist.

This idea that trans women absorb socialization in the same way as cis men is a simplistic dichotomy. Why do cis people always have such a flat and simple analysis. Is it really necessary to be trans to have even the slightest amount of complexity in one's views?
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>>7468990
>I'm young and feminine
>I'm straight

Dude you should be more scared of getting murdered by a straight guy lmao.

>>7468997
Don't make me regret defending you guys

>>7469001
Respect.
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>>7469025
>Don't make me regret defending you guys

I never asked you to.
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>>7469025
>Dude you should be more scared of getting murdered by a straight guy lmao
There's a tiny chance of being murdered by a guy if I'm safe about it. On the other hand, there's a huge chance some psycho lesbos are gonna bully me if I reveal I'm trans.
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>>7469037
Nah. look at lierre keith. she came out as a terf and now everyone hates her. if you look through terf forums like gendercritical on reddit, they are always talking about if they should be open about their views or not. Like if you thought coming out as trans was bad, try to come out as a terf.
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>>7469046
So? Even if they can't voice their opinions, they still exist. I know that a good portion of lesbians will see me as a rapist subhuman for absolutely no reason.
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>>7469052
The fact that you care what they think is making me more suspicious that you're not really straight, are you bi? You don't need to be scared anon, there are grills out there for you.
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>>7469014
That's just a very simple overview. Obviously socialization of a male presenting closeted MTF manifests itself in different ways than that of a cis male.

What you're attracted to however is very influential in your socialization and while they are different than cis males, they do have a common denominator of receiving a similar heterosexual socialization which is very potent and heavily media propagated.
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Bisexuals should post in lesgen and gaygen because 90% of their problems are the same. Transsexuals should post in mtfg and ftmg and not in gaygen or lesgen because 90% of their problems are trans related.
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>>7469068
I idealize lesbian relationships, because I want a cute relationship where its more like you are friends than lovers, and you just don't get that with men. Non-yuri lesbians aren't like that either really, and I don't feel the same attraction looking at girls as I do when looking at a man.
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>>7468997
>Like I hate it when women's spaces are mostly cis.

Bro I have something to tell you and you might want to sit down
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>>7469001
>just want a female lgbt space that isnt railing against mtf and/or bi women but still caters to grills

That's literally every lesbian space outside of 4chan/TLC
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>>7469119
W-what is it
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>>7469121
not in my experience desu. it's always between the extremes of ultra-inclusive mogai or full-on gc/TERF
i mean i've seen groups of like-minded gay/bi women on tumblr that just all follow each other but that's not really a "space" the same way a gen or subreddit is IMO
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>>7468974
>Ehhhhhhhhh I can understand not liking transbians for being creepy but that's a bit of a gray area imo, also I'm assuming there are a bunch of transbians who still post in your sacred thread and just don't talk about their "male issues", the 2D posters are probably all trans desu
If they keep their tranny issues out of the thread I really cant be bothered by a few transbians role playing as cis girls, good for them not being obvious males and being annoying more trannies should be like them and Im pretty sure the transhate would be a lot lower. Also I pretty much ignore 2D posters they are indeed mostly males which is quite obvious by the way they post.
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>>7468852
can't we just enslave the qts?
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>>7468931
>socialized into
>>7469014
>absorb socialization
You're both dumbasses, this is an immutable biological trait. Don't forget that it's only one specific small part of a tranny's brain that's been masculinized/feminized.
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>>7468974
>dick issues are not male issues
literally the malest conceivable issues
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>>7469403
How is socialization an immutable biologically trait?

And btw, the parts of the brain that are not affected by masculinization/feminization in trannies, have pretty much no clear distinction between male and female in the first place.
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>>7469403
>socialization is an immutable biological trait

what am I even reading
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>>7469416
>How is socialization an immutable biologically trait?
God you're dumb. It's not socialization *at all*, rather the difference in personality traits is inborn and biological.
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>>7469403
>>7469428
>all personality traits are sexually dimorphic

Gee, that's pretty un-feminist of you.
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>>7469428
Then we go back to the whole brain thing, where MtFs have highly feminized brains in most areas that are sexually dimorphic. If we managed to cut hons out of those studies who even knows how feminine it would show MtFs to be.
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kill foucault please

theres only one space
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>>7469450
That doesn't denote inherent socialization and biological predisposition towards socially constructed actions (....) but yes. Trutrans MTFs are feminized in the womb and are the only ones in medical need of transition.
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>>7469441
>all
v. dumb and baseless, we were talking about the one single and specific dominant/submissive trait which makes MTFs instinctively overpower women's spaces which FTMs don't and nothing else, that particular one is def biological and not socialized in humans any more than it is in chimps, lions and so on, any other given mammal FFS
>un-feminist
Oh no! Anything but that!
For real, if there's anything more tiresome than lesbian insistence on all lesbians being feminist to the point of toeing the line even against basic and obvious facts of biology, I don't know what it is.
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>>7469428
Personality isn't the same as sex/gender. That's literally Tumblr nonsense.

>>7469475
> the one single and specific dominant/submissive trait which makes MTFs instinctively overpower women's spaces
Name this thing then, rather than referring to it with some confusing 20-word descriptor. What is this thing you are speaking of?

>which FTMs don't
FTMs don't belong in women's spaces BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WOMEN. That's like asking why there are more doctors than plumbers working in hospitals.
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>>7469475
>we
>WE
>FUCKING WE

Holy shit, I was just thinking "this male brain autist reminds me of male skull autist" and holy fucking shit, I guess you're both.

I should have known that only a bitter hon could peddle so much transhate.
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>>7469495
This is troll tier reading comprehension and I'm not going to engage w/ it, fuck off.
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>>7469499
Can't a mod just IP ban skull-chan?
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>>7469499
Me and the anon I was talking to? Sorry, if you have some trans sperg who uses royal we I don't know about them as I don't frequent the trans threads
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>>7469520
Lesbian get out reee
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>>7468810
I like how the far left is just now realizing they're experiencing one of two ends for politics that get too extreme. If you go too far in exclusiveness you decay and eventually die but if you go too far in inclusiveness, as the far left has done, you end up basically abolishing yourself in the long term.

Under the far left femininity doesn't exist because absolutely everything is "femininity", a womanhood doesn't exist because everything is and/or can be "womanhood" and queerness doesn't exist because... you've guessed it, everything can be queer.
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>>7469526
>Lesbian spaces are still needed
>Lesbian get out reee
The irony's so thick you could knap a knife out of some of it to cut the rest with
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>>7469540
Cis lesbians are the most privileged group in society, they don't need spaces.
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>>7469547
lol
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>>7469547
The entire Western world is a safe space for women. And we spend billions indiscriminately bombing muds to keep it that way. Ungrateful cunts.
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>>7469520
For some reason I almost believe you. But you're still a dumbass.

>>7469526
Wait I thought this thread was supposed to be about lesbians being exclusionary? Now lesbians are being excluded? Fuck I'm so confused, why can't all girls just be nice to each other.
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>>7469559
>Fuck I'm so confused, why can't all girls just be nice to each other.
Lesbians are mean and exclusive, so we should exclude them.
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>>7469559
>why can't all girls just be nice to each other.
Because every time we try MTFs show up and start wailing about their penis problems? The ape nature of men makes this inevitable unless we lesbians create exclusionary spaces, hence the topic, but then the men start bawwwing and now we've reached your post in the discussion.

I'm glad I could help you with this recap
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>>7469504
Not an argument.
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>>7469575
>MTFs show up and start wailing about their penis problems?
Literally what. The only people who do that are unhinged 50 year of autogynephiles. I've never met a trans woman who wants to have a penis, let alone wants to talk about their penis in public.
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>>7469588
*old
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>>7469575
>the ape nature of """men"""
>but then the """men""" start bawwwing

You're not even trying, if you don't give people basic respect of course they're going to cry. Also they're pumped full of E so of course they're going to cry.

>>7469588
Any problem that a trans woman has becomes a penis problem when you're hyperfocused on the fact that she has a penis.
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>>7469588
>Literally what. The only people who do that are unhinged 50 year of autogynephiles.
Not even her, but are you saying there's any way to keep them out except being trans exclusionary? What do you propose they do, create hon-exclusionary spaces? Judge each tranny on the basis of passability before letting him in? You think regular TERF's controversial, just wait for the reaction to that shit.
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>>7469607
Pretty much, yeah. We need to start separating the young transitioners from the old, otherwise trans people are always going to be oppressed.
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>>7469621
>trans people are always going to be oppressed
>UNLESS we force trans people who want to participate in lesbian spaces to participate in humiliating beauty pageants that will inevitably devolve into pussy inspections
Not sure your logic really works here, besides, aren't transbians all AGP anyway? Seems like it would be a much easier and fairer concession to just let the lesbians have their spaces in peace.
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>>7469633
>easier and fairer
>to just keep ALL of them out

Hmmmmm
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>>7469633
No, we'd just say that everyone who transitioned before 25 is good, everyone older can go be AGP elsewhere.

And regardless, young transitioners that are bi and lesbian aren't that bad.
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>>7468875
I don't want to date dudes in dresses, get that to your fucking head.
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>>7469653
And this is why I date guys desu.
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>>7469657
k
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>>7468810
Reminder that the only person to use this link was the ban evading cp spammer.

He's flooding the place.

Sage and report before this board is ruined once and for all by his spam
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>>7469653
>dudes in dresses

How come TERFs always end up sounding like conservatards?
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>>7468857
We still have lesbian bars here.
But right now there is a hostile takeover by feminists, who are straight and are just there to "support" us somehow, defeating the whole point of meet and flirt and not getting screeched at, and transbians, guys who play dress up and think they can flirt us up because of it.
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>>7468810
Hash confirms it, you really are the child porn spammer.

Good bye and this time when they slap you with a new global ban, learn from it and stay out!
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>>7469670
Because to you everyone who disagrees with you automatically sounds like Adolf Hannity.
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>>7469670
Because TERFs are like the worst of the left and the right combined.

>let's destroy society by abolishing gender roles!
>let's also oppress trannies because of muh feefees
>also sex is bad because muh feefees
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>>7469670
Because they can't take no for an answer and basically suggest us to take a gay conversion therapy for doing so.
You are the consevartards.
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>>7469691
>>7469653
>>7468810
Reported for evasion, spammers. Have fun using pedochan as your replacement site.
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>>7469703
Maybe lesbians deserve gay conversion therapy for being so ridiculous.
>tiny minority of trannies exist, some like women
>lesbians collectively lose their minds over this super tiny thing
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>>7469703
Your post is literally indecipherable to me. Who wants you to not be gay?
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>>7469719
Stop talking to them, they're poltard men masquerading as lesbians

There's evidence to that, report them all and salt this false flag trash
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>>7469708
You know damn well there's no mod on /lgbt/ or you'd be banned to shit yourself long ago.
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>>7469719
>>7469722
>tranny flirts me up
>say no
>screeeee
Every time. This happens way to often for them being a "tiny" minority.
Don't be obnoxious ffs.
One suggestion literally was I should love cock when it is on a "female". How is that not gay conversion therapy?
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>>7469739
>>7468810
It's hilarious because they've banned you time and time again for trying this shit, pedo man. You're pissed cause they let trannies in here but not you.

We'll get your illegal crap once and for all. And you'll crawll around on tor for months till you get a new window in.
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>>7469750
Funny how you said the same thing last time you pretended to be a lesbian during one of your raids


You'd be a lot more convincing if you hadn't already been outed as a man rping angry dykes
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>>7469750
>One suggestion literally was I should love cock when it is on a "female".

I'll take things that never happened for 500, Alex.
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>>7469750
>be trans
>wouldn't even think of doing stuff like this
>have trans friends
>none of them do stuff like this

Where do you even live? Every tranny I've known has been really timid and yielding. This must be some weird cultural/regional thing I'm missing.
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>>7469762
>Everything is one person
Take the fucking hint then?
Does being rejected bothers you so much, that you have to create daily threads about it?

>>7469772
>>7469775
>greentext absolves me from any wrong doings
>we didn't do anything
Meanwhile they get bolder by the day. This shit is endemic.
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>>7469808
No, it's just we've had autistic straight men invade this board and pretend to be lesbians with their false flag anti tranny rants. You've been outed time and time again with your filthy role play.

And you're also posting illegal snuff here.

You've been banned time and time againnand that's what we have to do, salt the earth and keep the pedophile invaders out before they overrun this place.
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>>7469808
You didn't answer my question. Trans people are 1 in 10k in most parts of the world, and knowing what trans people I know are like it seems super convenient you have run into multiple who act like weirdo deviants.
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>>7469808
You're r9k man who's been outed for cossplaying lesbians. You have no credibility, get out, sir.
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>>7469772
>>7469775
>>7469831
Look it's a question of attitudes. Ironically the more a tranny believes transition "works" the more likely he is to act in this mannish, creepy way. Probably you know trannies who know on some level that they aren't and never will be women, that cosmetic surgery doesn't change who you are etc. That makes them humble.

On the other hand if you buy into the trans narrative fully then MtFs ARE women and ARE ENTITLED to be treated as such by lesbians and their dicks and obvious man bodies shouldn't be a problem, and the only possible reason is bigotry -- because the transition WORKED, right?

Mind you, nobody's saying the kind of trannies you know don't exist. They're much less of a problem. But unfortunately the agitprop shit is still being spread and men buy into it really easily, both because men are fundamentally like that psychologically and because, come on, it's just saying what they want to hear -- EVERYONE's like THAT.

>>7469844
You're stupendously retarded. It's at least two of us you've accused of being the same person in this thread alone, now, and I think three.
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>>7469867
You realize they ban everyone who came in on a raid: it doesn't matter which one of you is trafficking in child porn and there is proof of that. You'll all be salted.


Sage and report, contain the poltard invasion before it swallows up the whole site.
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>>7469069
Its not that simple. People can relate to you, you can be exposed to situations, but how it effects you is really dependent on your understanding of gender at the time.

I do know some trans women who had no clue about their gender in adolescence or thought they were men. We've had conversations where they talk about unlearning shit and how they were into things men were into, how they were comfortable with the way sexuality was presented to them.

For me it was nothing like that. To be fair it wasnt like how my cis lesbian friends experienced it either.

Having people relate to me and having sexuality presented to me in that way was traumatizing. It wasnt untill I had queer girls as friends (around 15) that I was able to have a healthy relationship to sexuality.
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>>7469867
This is absurd. No, self hatred and thinking we aren't real women isn't what makes us humble or polite. It's being humble or polite people. Something psychotic radfems and manly lesbian don't understand don't understand.

Ever notice how a huge fixation in radfem literature is how women are super duper oppressed because women are expected to be nice and non-confrontational and so on? As though that's a gendered thing, and not a "people are expected to act good" sorta thing? Basic human concepts such as kindness and empathy are lost on these people, and they've somehow managed to spin it so they can act oppressed.
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>>7469829
>>7469844
I think you confuse me for the wrong person.
I never posted snuff here. And I don't actually remember the last time I was banned.

But it's funny how you use him as a scapegoat to refute my point.

>>7469831
So you know every transsexual in the whole world, interesting.
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>>7469900
>So you know every transsexual in the whole world, interesting.
I know a pretty large sample of a very small population. It makes me very skeptical when radfems start their agitprop about the villainy of trannies.
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>>7469575
>The ape nature of men
Better than the reptilian nature of (((women))).
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>>7469908
Sorry, but the radfems are actually on your side.

Saying no to dating a transexual person gets us their lectures of "we have to be more inclusive".

I noticed the trend where more and more lesbians are getting lectured of being "more inclusive".

I actually don't care for LGBT issues as a whole, I just wanted to go to a bar, play some darts and flirt up someone without that girl screeching on me, like straight ones usually do.
Can't do that lately.

But I am astonished that you are so well connected all around the world.
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>>7469878
So you create an anti-lesbian thread and report everyone who dares to defend them?

I have to say, this is genius.
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>>7469928
>Sorry, but the radfems are actually on your side
Explain.

>Saying no to dating a transexual person gets us their lectures of "we have to be more inclusive".
If you turn down trans women gracefully, it probably wouldn't be a problem at all. It seems like the problem is just as likely lesbians being horrible and offensive about it. "Lol you're a man fuck off you ape" just makes the situation worse when a "sorry, I'm not into you" will suffice.
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>>7469954
Since you are well connected, which is kinda cool, tell her to shut it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-PgHSZh6U
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>>7469900
>>7469932
Guy who started this is a confirmed child porn spammer. He isn't even nothing to not use hashes that won't give him away. You're joining in on his raids, you're either the criminal or an accomplice.


We have to contain this before the site is swallows by spam and snuff regardless and kick out him and any of his helpers.
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>>7469970
>that head-to-shoulder width ratio
Linebacker waiting to happen
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>>7469954
>If you turn down trans women gracefully, it probably wouldn't be a problem at all. It seems like the problem is just as likely lesbians being horrible and offensive about it.
This is wishful thinking on your part, I'm afraid.
Google "cotton ceiling" if you're prepared to be remarkably horrified.
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>>7469970
There's a difference between "you have to go out with me or you're a hateful" and "you should analyze why that is, sexuality is not above analysis". I mean ffs she openly said if your answer was no, it doesn't make you a bad person.

Also wow she really needs to work on her voice.
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why do we care about terfs?

They are a small fringe that are looked down upon my most feminists to the point where they do not discuss their views outside weird corners of tumblr and rare one off conferences.

You could be some silvia federici,voltairine de cleyre reading anarchist and they call you a liberal if youre ok with trans people.

its silly. Its such a weird hobby.
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>>7470002
Everything you get is anedotal, see stuff from alt right groups.

Why don't we talk about the fact that one in two lesbians are actual rapists?


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27056045/
https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

Plus stats say that lesbians are statistically as prone to crime and sexually abuseing others as straight men.
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>>7470007
>her voice
she doesnt even care for hormones. like no offense but shes weird and will look like a man forever in 2 years.
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>>7470002
>cotton ceiling
Started out of a criticism of trans inclusive feminists who acted 100% pro-trans and said trans women were 100% women... until it came to sex. Which regardless of your feelings on having sex with trans people is a pretty amusing bit of hypocrisy.
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>>7470022
A shame too, her face is really pretty.
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>>7470022
>>7469970
It's a creepy hon who rejects hormones, he'll probably get bashed and problem solved.

He doesn't use hormones, he isn't trans. Even the femboys use estrogen and blockers so only a man wouldn't.
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>>7470029
yeah I know. shes either ok with at some point in her future never being read as female again and living as a man or has a false sense of security and little understanding of what T will do to her.
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>>7470029
It's horse faced and hideous, the femgen chat would probably kick him.
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>>7468810
Feminist Current is a TERF propaganda site designed to look legit so that people will think it's in the same vein of everydayfeminism or whatever.
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>>7468942
Who's the fake goth in your pic?
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>>7468899
>men don't make drama
Funny. This list of straight men killing mtfs because they got 'tricked' by them is pretty long. Care to take a look at it?
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>>7470097

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27056045/
https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

And yet there's a litany of scientific proof that lesbians are just as prone to violent crime as straight men. And even more prone to sexually assaulting others.
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>>7470134
That said that lesbians are much worse than het women but it made no comment on lesbos vs het men.
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>>7470148
It had them in the same error bar range as straight men

https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

Also, the many studies in this prove they're as violent and prone to rape as straight men.
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>>7470156
Yes. But in the end, lesbians still have less diseases compared to gay men. And lesbians still have less muscle and testosterone to make serious damage. You can whine all you want but lesbians really aren't as bad as you think they are. If you think lesbians are all radfem tumblrites, then that's like saying that all gay men are superficial sluts who... oh wait.
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>>7470179
Yep. Gay men are degenerate diseasebags and lesbians are violent rapist tumblrites who have the audacity to look down on trans people.
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>>7470185
>Have the audacity
Hon. Please. You mock tumblrites when you're being a total snowflake. That's pretty hilarious.
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>>7470179
There's femboys, so men can look pretty too and not have the testosterone problem so long as they go unnatural.

And you can be careful, we don't have you problems.
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>>7470193
I mean it's really bold to look down on trans people when your group is made up of woman beaters and rapists. What else should I call it? Laughable?
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>>7470199
What's laughable here is the way you dumbasses group others with convenient buzzwords when you're all a bunch of adults that should understand how diverse humans are, even among minorities.
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>>7470185
>>7470179
I means asides from being manipulative, when was the last time you heard of femboys doing any of the evil stuff lesbians and some meatheads do?
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>>7470212
They do it to us, we do it to them. I'm sick of radfems seeing all trans people as perverts because of hons. I'd love to see lesbians get a taste of their own medicine.
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>>7470212
But don't lesbians like lumping every one who isn't them into groups and vilifying them with stuff that often didn't happen?

Why can't they handle the same for their violent crimes?
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>>7470226
Yes. Because clearly. All lesbians are radfems. All americans are rednecks and canadians are gaping pussies. As I said, you're all being silly about this.
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>>7470248
>All lesbians are radfems
Roughly half are.
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>>7470248
I don't understand, if all the lesbians here vilifiy everyone trans with often ridiculous stuf that never happened or anedotal stuff then why aren't they allowed to be helped to scrutiny over the damning scientific data over the sky high criminal violence inclinations
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>>7470248
All the ones here won't stop talking in every place in this board about what monsters trannies are and often they don't even have any facts.

If all of them can rightly attack us all the time, then the same can be done with actual facts.
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>>7470248
Well how do you feel about chasers who still want to suck your dick despite your wish to have a female body? That's why they act like that. Rest easy. Lesbians barely have any power over anything. Why you guys are so emotional over this, I don't think I'd ever understand. Everyone on this site hates tumblr and radfems. Do you really think that the lesbians in this site like that site and those feminist extremists?

Come on.
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I got annoyed by this thread, so I went out to a bar and got a girl's number without even doing anything. She sells weed and she bought me mozzarella sticks and put me on the guest list for a club. This board messes with your head, but shit is so much more chill in real life.
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>>7470309

We've never done anything to them, lesbians are just as prone to violating women and violence as any redneck so they're ones to talk.


What do you mean, you just need to control f and see all lesbian posts where they're praying trump drives trannies into the gutters. And they're plenty fond of the alt right and have clout there.


And they baselessly call us monsters, when they're the ones committing all the crimes.
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>>7468852
but then how will we reproduce?
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>>7470326
Femboys get womb transplants. They can already make m/m embryos in vitro
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>>7470332
no successful womb transplant has been done on a male body...
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>>7470351
It should be easier than on female BC boys have better cardiovascular and all the women who had them had major circulatory damage in that reigon.
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>>7470355
then why hasn't a successful womb transplant been done on a male?
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>>7470365
Because only narcissistic wealthy women in their forties have the connections to do it.

Why else have the transplants been done on the wives of emirate sheikhs, not young women in their twenties.
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>>7470322
>Never?
Actual lesbian here. I'm no troll. This is a real experience. An mtf who passed tricked me and lied to me. Even after that I tried to accept her and understand her situation. She didn't want to go out much because she was paranoid that people would clock her or detect her or something like that. Even still, I tried to understand her. It was difficult. But I did try my best to be kind and show her how much I cared for her. And what did she do?

She cheated on me.

Yep. Not only did she trick me into feeling something for her. She out right cheated on me.

I have a sensible and kind cis gf now, and I've never been more happier. But even then I won't group all mtfs as evil or smth stupid like that. I know that not all mtfs are like that. I just hope that you guys understand that not all lesbians are like that too.
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>>7470377
This. Womb transplants have been done, but its new technology which gets enjoyed by rich white cis people first.
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>>7469693
>>7469668
hey did you reply to the wrong person? idk what you're talking about
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>>7470385
>tricked me and lied to me

Not telling you straight up when she passes well is not "lying", unless you were dating like 6 months to a year and she never told you, then that's kinda sketch. How did you find out, if you don't mind me asking? I have to assume she was planning on telling you...

>cheated on me

Sounds like a normal les relationship desu
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>>7470365
because why sacrifice and potentially compromise superior anatomy when we can continue to use the flesh of cis women to create more humans.
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>>7470385
>Not only did she trick me into feeling something for her.
right, so their not telling you in public, where you met that they were a boy is a horrible action you can condemn everyone over. They didn't violate you or do anything to justify your vilification of everyone.

And besides, then isn't it fair to bring up that as a population, you're all as prone to raping innocent women and being violent as chads?

If you can condemn everyone over someone being slow to out themselves, then why not the countless actual crimes you commit.

Don't get me wrong, if you aren't into depraved, self mutilating boy-girl things then that's your right, but you've got no right to vilify over anecdotes when the lot of you do far worse all the time.
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>>7470414
Trans girl pregnancy is the most agp thing I can think of, so it will happen eventually. And when cis women abandon the female gender role entirely, trans girls will probably be the only ones left who are willing to do it.
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>>7470434
Im ready for that. Critical mass on transness. transition or firing squad.
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>>7468932
it took me a moment to figure out if you were transbian or cisbian
>>7468810
lesbian spaces are dying because there's no need for 'butch lesbians' (trans men) to live as women in current year
due to a massive integral subset of the lesbian community being men, bisluts and transbians have been recruited to fill in the gaps
unfortunately, bisluts are straight and transbians are men, so the lesbian community is forever ruined
the only remaining option for the stalwart cisbians is transition but unfortunately most of them are terfs and some are even detransitioners themselves, unless they go bi which also works i guess but that's more likely for the femme ones
>>7470434
this is an important consideration
i'm only interested in dating trans girls because they're submissive and controllable, like women should be
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>>7470440
what is this comment?
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>>7470440
I think even the most "submissive and controllable" trans girls will probably be sketched out by you mate, calling trans women men, even if they're transbians, will sketch them all out and make them think you're just a gay dude.
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>>7470440
>i'm only interested in dating trans girls because they're submissive and controllable
so then you wouldn't like femboys?
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>>7470487
well yeah, i don't say it *to* cute trans girls
this is dating 101 m8
>>7470488
i like fem'boys' when they stop insisting on male pronouns
the dicc doesn't make it gay but the self-identification does
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>>7470427
>didn't read the rest of the post

They didn't condemn anyone you fake taco haver.
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>>7470399
>implying gaysluts, bisluts, normies don't cheat
Yeah. Got it.
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God men are autistic. By men I mean every y chromosome. Look at this thread. There is nothing worse than them.
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>>7470495
But if you say transgirl's are men, then femboys are entirely reasonable and reality grounded in having a male identity and wanting male pronouns.

So really, any femboy or transgirl should force you to admitt you're a fagot who likes dick before they ever date you.

Why don't you man up and admit that?
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>>7470523
...where did i say trans girls are men?
i said agp transbians are, in a simplified shitposting way, men
i don't believe bi girls are straight either but they near-universally act in ways that mean you can simplify them down to being straight
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>>7470510
Maybe I should have just said "normal relationship". My point was that she didn't cheat on you BECAUSE she's trans.

>>7470512
All I see are a bunch of girls tearing each other down like usual, over shit that doesn't really matter. And the occasional chaser-kun.
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>>7470534
About half of femboys are bi so then they're confirmed as boys.

And you're saying transgirls are men, you can't pretzel away by claiming the ones who like you aren't.

You're rather cowardly over your orientation tbqh. You should just admit you're a faggot and understand that the boys you're into then have no reason to want fem pronouns or to call themselves girls.
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>>7470556
dude, you clearly know nothing about neurological sex if you're saying this
trans lesbians, with few to no exceptions, are inherently autogynephilic and so there is something inherently male about them no matter what (inb4 'chromosomes' or 'penis')
bi trans girls can be agp or not, they're more often agp but not universally, but even the agp ones are different to transbians because bisexuality is an inherent part of female sexuality -- all women who aren't 'butch lesbians' (again, trans men) are bi, but almost no men are bi, so bisexuality is a strong indicator of neurofeminization meaning bi trans women are usually slightly less 'off' than lesbian ones
straight trans girls are not agp, funnily enough they have a lot in common neurologically with gay men but this just means 'feminine gay men' are failed trannies in the same way 'butch lesbians' are (see pic related for an example of a girl who realized this), a view backed up by the research into 'third gender' categories of non-western cultures
all this shit is true for trans men too, to the point i'm trying to figure out if i should tell a friend of mine (who is now agp and transitioning, kek) that it wasn't actually a m/m gay relationship when he dated a pre-t non-passing aap trans guy
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>>7470581
leading on from that, though, even though i'm not sure i would actively avoid dating a bi trans girl i would strongly prefer not doing so for the same reasons i would not date a non-op trans girl
because even putting aside orientation, a*p is a special kind of crazy that invalidates all the upsides of dating trans people (unless you're one of the people who thinks the upside is dysphoriaholes/dysphoriasticks, in which case you will never find love)
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>>7470555
>Girls
If you have a y chromosome you aren't a girl. Only a male would be angry at hearing the truth.
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>>7470581
>"dude you know nothing about neurological sex"
>spouts pseudo-science

Jeez this thread took a bad turn.

Does anyone know of any lesbian hang-outs in Denver? I feel like I need to go out again.
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>>7470581
Just sounds like a lot of psych mumbojumbo, probably not credible. Your takeaway point was transgirls are all men of some sort?
>straight trans girls have a lot in common neurologically with gay men but this just means 'feminine gay men' are failed trannies in the same way a view backed up by the research into 'third gender' categories of non-western cultures

So in other words you're saying femboyism is the closest and most true version of whatever trans is. Transgirls are really just femboys or some primitive third world version of that.

So then, why would you want femboys to wear some insencere persona and claim they're girls when they aren't? Why not stay true to their essence?

Btw, transgirls all really being femboys means you're a fagot so why the denial?
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>>7470595
Sounds like someone has never actually interacted with a woman before
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>>7470611
Are you a woman? lmao
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>>7470595
You need to work on your woman impersonations more, buddy. Your R9K is showing.
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>>7469037
>There's a tiny chance of being murdered by a guy if I'm safe about it.
it seems like every murder you see in the news the trans girl was dating a gang member

like wow its like maybe dating violent criminals could be a problem
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>>7470610
you're not even reading what i'm writing, or if you are you completely misunderstand the context behind it
femboys are failed trannies, just like all other 'feminine gay/bi men', but an especially interesting type of it given they actually medically transition
their true essence is that of women, like other 'feminine gay/bi men'
we know this because of the 'third gender' categories of a lot of cultures, all of which are, despite what tumblr trendscum will tell you, either trans women or trans men (the former more common) who are only treated as 'third' because ancient mud hut people were too stupid to consider the existence of natal male women or natal female men
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>>7470581
Where are you getting all this info from?
You made so many assumptions without anything to back it up.
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>>7470620
I never visited r9k but from what I here about it your post makes no sense. Sorry I was born female and you weren't. Sorry your mannerisms can't be tamped down.
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>>7470647
by reading the medical literature on transsexualism as a condition, which is not something i can easily throw you a couple sources for given it stretches over decades and tens of studies
and through almost five years now of associating with a shitload of trannies
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>>7470594
Something's probably broken with me I'm supposed to/want to be bi but I haven't felt anything for women in eternity, or possibly ever. It feels like I've lost something I should have.
>>7470625
>their true essence is that of women, like other 'feminine gay/bi men
Sounds like bullshit loopholes against the obvious. You said mtfs were men, that should hold as a universal and that means all are and femboys are rightly just especially fem gay men.

>third gender' categories of a lot of cultures
which happens to just describe them as especially feminine men. Even in places like Thailand which use medicine.

Which means history points to something like femboy and means that's the closest thing to the concept without the distortions of modern day psych.

So you proved your transgirls are really just femboys.
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>>7470434
Where are you gonna get the eggs?
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>>7470657
So a bunch of unpublished failed psych from a field all other science considers a joke? And a whole lot of repressed homosexuality.
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>>7470674
i'm asking this as a legitimate question without any attempt at snark or otherwise illegitimacy: do you have a disability that impairs your reading comprehension? you're taking the exact opposite of my meaning from my words to the point it's either intentional misunderstanding or a disability
>You said mtfs were men
i said TRANSBIANS are, in a sense, men
>that should hold as a universal and that means all are and femboys are rightly just especially fem gay men
this does not follow, because femboys are not TRANSBIANS and 'especially fem gay men' are trans women -- the latter should be the only interpretation that makes sense if you had even read *my first post in this thread*, which points out 'butch lesbians' are trans men!
>Which means history points to something like femboy and means that's the closest thing to the concept without the distortions of modern day psych
there's nothing in history like femboys because femboys are inherently a concept of modern medicine and are defined by the fact they medically transition while continuing to repress
the ancient 'third gender' categories are the opposite of this, because they're trans people who SOCIALLY transition before medical transition was possible
they're the diametric opposite of femboys
and because you're going to refer back to this:
>Even in places like Thailand which use medicine
that's a misunderstanding from transphobic researchers who noticed the similarity between 'feminine gay men' and trans women and assumed the same as you're assuming, as opposed to the reality which is the inverse according to more recent and less biased research
when 'kathoey' are told to define themselves by western labels, the label is always 'trans woman', not 'feminine gay man'
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>>7470657
Saying you read or have sources isn't the same as actually showing us.
It leaves you with the same predicament fortunately.
We can all just take your word for granted until then.
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>>7470694
>transphobic
You're calling mtfs men
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>>7470697
...wait, do you think i'm a cis guy? the fact you think i'm calling trans people their natal sex makes a lot more sense if you think i'm cis
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>>7470704
You are calling mtfs men all the time, how could you ever criticise an actual researcher who does the same?
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>>7468974
>also I'm assuming there are a bunch of transbians who still post in your sacred thread and just don't talk about their "male issues"
As someone who used to post on lesgen (though not for a long time so this may be out dated), this was never really an issue. The issue was transbians constantly talking about being transbians. It's just the equivalent of being a girl on /b/, just don't bring it up and you're fine, but if you do bring it up it just causes a repetitive shitstorm (and most of that shitstorm is just cis dykes arguing against each other over whether it's no big deal or completely outrageous, it's not like it's just a unified lynch mob).
Obviously if it's just not brought up, it's not going to be an issue, I doubt everyones sitting around in seething paranoia combing every post for trans indicators.

>dicks are not male issues
lol
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>>7470694
You're begging the question. Your premises lead to alternate ends much more easily than your own contrived ends.

And bisexuality is common amongst and other effeminate gay/bi males, probably more than it is around mascs for some strange reason. So that means they're the same as the transbians and ultimately guys.

Which means the transgirls are all the same as femboys. So it isn't the effeminate gay/bi males who aren't the true image.

So really mtf is a contrived thing that doesn't exist and femboy is as closet the truth as you get.
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>>7470709
>all the time
you're seriously not reading or understanding a word i'm saying
okay, let's backtrack. i'm going to explain everything i've done in this thread:
>thread about a topic i know things about (why lesbian spaces are dying)
>explain lesbian spaces are dying because 'butch lesbians', who are trans men, are now transitioning
>explain that because there are far fewer cis lesbians now, lesbian communities are instead largely populated by bi women and trans lesbians
>as joking, shitposting, non-serious reference to /lgbt/ memes grounded in reality, say the problems are because bi women are straight (though they are primarily attracted to men and usually settle down into heterosexual relationships, they are not straight) and trans lesbians are men (they are far more masculine behaviourally and neurologically than cis women or other trans women on average, and their dysphoria originates from a sexual orientation only seen in natal males, but they are not men)
>allude to the fact i like trans girls because they're better at being girls than cis girls are
>you come in and start yelling that i think all trans women are men so i'm gay and should date femboys
>i explain that i in fact believe what is close to the opposite of that, which is that some 'men' are actually trans women, and that you would have realized this if you had read my post given that the whole important part of it is that some 'women' are trans men and this is why lesbian spaces are dying
>somehow even though i explain this to you several times over in increasingly specific ways you do not realize it
this is my side of the conversation
i would like to hear yours
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>>7470737
You realize they used hons in their fifties who hadn't medically transitioned for those orientation studies. It's hardly valid for anything other than hons in their fifties who hadn't medically transitioned
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>>7470744
you didn't read those studies if you think that
they used young transitioning trans women AND hons in their fifties -- that's why the blanchardian groups were for so long split by age, because until extremely recently only straight trans women transitioned young!
also you have still not explained your side of the conversation
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>>7470440
>>7468857
Great answers! I've seen this asked on r/gendercritical and they always seem to blame trannies, or lesbians not identifying as lesbians anymore.

I have a bad habit of reading TERF stuff. Its of particular interest to me because i'm a closet transbian. TERFs document the insanity of trannies with my condition. I'm also textbook AGP so I can relate to those silly hons.

I always got a kick out of Gendertrender and Dirt, but r/gendercritical is a lethal dose of female autism.
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>>7470751
Find any with young patients. Otherwise it's useless for demonstrating what you want.

The only thing this proves is that hons are all fake and should be banned from transition/public life.
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>>7470756
yeah, /r/gendercritical is so bad they yelled at marci bowers for performing reversal surgery for fgm victims
a couple old acquaintances of mine are detransitioners now and it's a surreal look into their lives, seeing them own the 'butch lesbian' label when it's one that's inherently dying and unsustainable (especially given they were aap with nothing in common with actual butches)
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>>7469670


It's telling when the only allies they they find are reactionary conservatives.

They also almost completely exist on the internet and are way more Tumblr than even the most obnoxious than the 62 genders people.
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>>7470440
>it took me a moment to figure out if you were transbian or cisbian
But I'm neither, anon.
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>>7470737
I just thought it funny to ask chasers if they'd go for boys too. The fact you said you think mtfs are men and just like them for being forced into masking that with gender role caricatures made it all the more reason. There should be no prob with someone who doesn't deny being a guy if we're all men, right?

And I don't see how you can claim the kathoey=feminine gay men all the actual researchers have found is false on the account of their "transphobia", you do the same so what makes their work irrelevant? You say femboys don't actually exist but from what I've been give its far more likely transgirls don't exist.
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>tfw tranny
Meanwhile IRL lesbians hit on me. I'm too embarrassed to out myself so I just try to ghost them.
I still have no idea why people in general, especially lesbians, find me attractive. And the butch ones too, they seem to love my femme presentation
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>>7470865
Butch lesbians are gross, they are basically as thirsty as men. Additionally, femme lesbians are rare, since lesbians have slightly masculinized brains.

Butch lesbians will try to have sex with literally any high femme woman.
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>>7470807
>The fact you said you think mtfs are men and just like them for being forced into masking that with gender role caricatures
except i don't believe that
as i explained to you several different times over
the trans women who are, in some sense, men are not the trans women who act feminine, these are two entirely separate groups of people
again, do you think i'm cis? i'm not
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>>7470865

I'm so glad I'm taken and don't have to deal with it going any further than that. It doesn't make sense to me either, there's no way they could believe for a second that a 6'2" femme lesbian would ever exist.

If I had to guess something way more likely they do know you're trans anon and are trying to faghag you.
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>>7468961
Because he is and hasn't figured it out.
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>>7470713
>lol

What I meant was that, when I think of "male issues" I think of men. And men don't complain about how they're rejected because they have penises, or about how they hate their penises, that's what a girl would do if she were unlucky enough to be born with one.

Also, it doesn't sound like they were actually complaining about the physical dicks themselves, but the fact they were rejected, and I doubt they were rejected solely because of that. Just speaking for myself, their level of passability, their appearance, voice, just the general vibe I picked up from them would be way more important. I probably wouldn't date a trans woman who didn't pass, simply because I wouldn't be attracted to her.

So I think the hyperfocusing on the penis is what's strange here. Post-op girls get rejected too. Probably girls who have been transitioning since they were 12 get rejected. So it's not about that, and to some extent it's not even about passability. They're just not seen as genuine.
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>>7471012
>They're just not seen as genuine
>tfw no matter what I do, some weirdo lesbian who acts like a man is gonna say I'm not a "genuine woman" for some dumb reason

Feels good desu
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>>7470318
>This board messes with your head, but shit is so much more chill in real life.
Agreed...

>>7470434
Uterine replicator.
http://vorkosigan.wikia.com/wiki/Uterine_replicator
will be a reality one day.

>>7470680
stem cells

>>7470865
>they seem to love my femme presentation
The MtFs that need to transition are often the most feminine among us.
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>>7470759
Its surreal that on 4chan we're aware of something both the TERFs and Blanchard are oblivious to, AAP. Even Dirt can see it, she doesn't truly understand what she's seeing.

>>7470807
As a trans attracted person I think femboys are cute, but their sooooo much cuter when they larp as women.

>>7470865
>>7470873
>>7470914
So contrary to TERF rhetoric, some of their precious butches may have a thing for cute transwomen on HRT. I'd imagine they draw the line somewhere though.
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>>7471080
everyone's blindness to aap is especially hilarious to me because i'm a trans guy who's young enough to be in the generation where ftms are overwhelmingly aap
an ex of mine who now identifies as ftm legitimately wrote gay fanfiction about our relationship and yet blanchard still claims aap has never been reported and candice brown elliott still estimates aaps as only making up 1 in 72 trans men
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>>7471012
>when I think of "male issues" I think of men
Well that's your mistake, 'sex=/=gender' and all that. A male issue isn't necessarily a mens' issue.
Reality is that trans women have to deal with issues pertaining to the male sex's anatomy. And whether it's appropriate to call them male issues or not, it's pretty obvious that anon was referring to specific trans woman issues that have nothing to do with cis lesbians, making it something inappropriate to bring up in a thread about lesbianism when there are plenty of trans threads available in which to discuss it.

I don't even know what you're on about in the rest of your post, the point is trans women have garnered a reputation for bring up trans specific issues in the wrong threads which is an issue for the people those threads actually cater to.
What exactly that trans specific issue IS is irrelevant, point is that it's a trans issue, not a lesbian issue.
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>>7471111
>Well that's your mistake, 'sex=/=gender' and all that.

"Sex =/= gender" was a mistake tbqh.

I understand why you don't want these discussions in lesgen, and I agree that it shouldn't really be a space where people talk about heavy weird shit like that, but honestly that thread is not all puppies and gay rainbows just because you got rid of the trannies. And a big part of the reason is because it's so exclusionary to the point where they get pissy about stupid shit, like transbians are one thing, but now even bi girls are persona non grata? Lame.

Like I go in there and people are derailing the fun gay talk by complaining about trannies, so I scroll up to see what instigated it and there's literally nothing. So who is actually derailing here?
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>>7470097
>Muh men are satan argument.

It's literally because of men you have your tranny pills.

Think about that for a second.
Also lesbians beat their partners all the time.
That literally doesn't happen with two gay guys.
Can you even process this kind of info? two men which in your mind are evil destroyers of worlds are more passive than two women in a room.

You seriously sound like the kind that wants to castrate young children because they happened to be born males.
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>>7471151
>Like I go in there and people are derailing the fun gay talk by complaining about trannies, so I scroll up to see what instigated it and there's literally nothing. So who is actually derailing here?
That was my point in the earlier post, it's just /lgbt/'s "girls on /b/"
The only reason tranny mentions cause a shitstorm is because of people willing to shitstorm over it.
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>>7471174
Then they should go to reddit and make it more hugboxy
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>>7468810
Usually what happens is there's a lesbian space.

and these trans girls are like "hey lesbians whats up can we hang out in the second hand book store too?"

and the lesbians are like "....i dont knoooow.... why do you wanna hang out here?"

and the mtfs are like "....coffee and books."

and the lesbians vote on it, and decide the mtfs can hang out with them.

But then some of the lesbians who lost the vote get really really bitter, and say that the lesbians who voted the other way are brainwashed handmaiden idiots and only THEIR PERSONAL vote was real, the mtfs INVADED!!

kinda like when white people say their school is stolen by integration, and half the white people are like "....wtf i VOTED FOR integration nothing got stolen???"
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>>7470898
Except you've said it, so condemning far better educated researchers and ignoring their findings because they allegedly did what you do is insanity. I see no difference when you control for age asides from your claims that one of the two alegedely acts like a caricature of concentrated femenity so they're all men like you say.

And given that femboys and especially other gay men deleberately rejected transitioning and they don't act like that caricature you say you get turned on by, there's nothing to indicate they're "true" trans so your arguments about them are invalid.
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>>7471080
>sooooo much cuter when they larp as women.
> larp as women.
That's exactly the reason not to do it. We aren't women so there's no point in, pretending we're one. Why throw away who I am for some sort of insincere act? After all I just want to look a certain way.
>sex=/=gender
Gender doesn't exist, so if you say someone's a man, they're a man.
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>>7469867
>implying that trans women are inherently mannish, angry, and confrontational
>when TERFs are by far the angriest 'people' in this thread throwing the most personal and prejudiced insults
desu
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Get rid of TERFs and people will probably not require a special lesbian protected space or whatever.

Seriously, humans can live in society without all this bullshit.
IMO they are as bad as some racist tard from KKK or whatever.

This segregation culture is what creates grief and hate and I'm sure none of them even understand they are part of it.
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>lesbian spaces are still needed
>"oh, this is an important topic, and it looks really active too, nea--"
>the thread is invaded by trannies
IT'S LIKE RAY HEE AAAIN
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>>7471755
the article/myself suggested that the "queering" of every kind of identity blurs the line of who can or cannot be allowed in a lesbian space.

Other posters here have said that cis lesbians don't really patronize spots like gay men do because such places exist as a spot to engage in hookup culture, which is a big thing for gay men but less so for lesbians.

Although I (op here) agree with you about the thread being overrun, I've scrolled past 90% of the tranny BS being posted here, I'd be interested to hear what you have to say as a presumably cis lesbian.
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>>7471774
So in other words you really did come here to shitpost and spam and that's why you've got the same image hash and string links as an infamous ban dodging shitposter
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>>7471947
the person I replied too posted their gut reaction to the thread without saying anything, so I just summarized the main points I saw and then asked what she/he thought.
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>>7471974
Bullshit, you're posting the same links a serial shitposter already did to cause infighting, and you conveniently have the same image file he had. And you're cheering the drama on.

You've proven you're shitposting, it's time to get out of here.
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>>7471974
Which actually makes things interesting btw, you post snuff with animals and kids, and you think you can come here, post your nutty Alt-right sites and lecture us on morality.
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>>7471987
>>7471997
infighting...i'm a cis gay men. I posted this link cause a bigirl friend of mine liked it on facebook and I wanted /lgbt/'s opinion cause I don't discuss this kind of stuff on facebook.

you people are whacko. isn't 4chan supposed to be anonymous? how are you concluding that I've posted genuinely illegal content?
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>>7472007
Same stings, same hash. It's highly likely.

And spamming nutty alt right stuff and starting drama while phrasing it as a question has been part of your act.

So no reason to think you're anyone else and we have no patience for you pulling your same shitposting.
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>>7472044
This article is alt-right? explain. I didn't know Lesbians in general, or TERFs, could be welcomed into the alt-right because that would go against their vision of a traditional world.

secondly, since I'm still not banned doesn't it seem likely that you just got this one wrong? i mostly lurk but god forbid the one time i make a thread i get called out as an actual criminal.
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>>7472051
They're out in the hollidays, it takes days before they come back, but with any luck, you'll be tossed out into the wilderness again. Post the same shit, have the same file. You're almost certainly a criminal.
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>>7472075
I looked in the archives and I don't see this thread being posted, but to be fair i control+f'd "lesbian" but I can't imagine I missed it.
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>>7472051
Note that half of reddit GC is men, who happen to post breitbart and it's accepted.

They both oppose lgbt and claim that trans are rapists despite lacking evidence so that's a lot of compatibility. And they let alt right men into their midst because they agree with what they say and that boosts their numbers, something they need.
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>>7468857
Yeah. That's because. Men lack self control and literally have to piss on EVERYTHING. Like literally ALWAYS have to assert their "dominance" its the reason all men are gay. They all would much rather impress another penis than a vagina any day. Like really. You can give it what ever name you want. But at the end of the day. No matter what they say. They all would rather a dick in the mouth/ass than a vage.
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>>7472007
>how are you concluding that I've posted genuinely illegal content?
Uh, that anon is a severely mentally ill trongute who thinks every single person who disagrees with him is the same person. Disregard him tb h
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>>7468810
OH COME ON.

Bitches have whined for years about gay spaces being not inclusive enough,
Now it's their turn to be inclusive and suddenly they backpedal like fuck.
This is only more proof of the NIMBY mentality among these fucks.
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>>7471707
Your right your not technically a woman. But simply by taking HRT you become closer to one.

>>7472247
>being gay is misogyny reeeeee!

>>7472084
Which is funny because while the alt-right and terfs can overlap on anti transgenderism, their desired outcomes for society are very different.
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>>7473225
Call it whatever you want. All men are fags.
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>>7473225
which is a reason you're making a mistake by being mtf and should just be a Femboy if you're really just a guy
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>>7470914
I'm actually only 5'3 so...
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>>7473350
I'm an AGP living as a cismale and I'm not on HRT.
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>>7468810
What do you mean by space?

I now that for years gay male bars have let just about anyone in no matter who or what you are.
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>>7473329
>All men are fags.
I wish, bitch.
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