Journey into the mind of a openly gay person.

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Memories have chains, there's more to this world then meets the eye

>>7395633
I started by respecting my parents and understanding there was information I had that was important to share with them, so that we could have the best family relationships possible, and so that an access to my life wouldn't become foreclosed to them. If your father sees less dignity in the action than in its concealment, then he's a bum with no sense of honour.

Well if you feel like that, maybe your doing something wrong.

>>7395633
>like a woman
>degraded and disgusted with your own actions [sounds kinda genital dysphoric d e s u]
>that pic
Have you ever questioned your birth gender, OP?

>>7395726
I wish I was born a woman but I wasn't so it's not something I give much attention to. What's with the people here that try and convince everyone that they are trans?

>>7395801
>I wish I was born a woman
Maybe people try to convince you that you are trans cause you say stuff like this?

>>7395803
Trans people suffer real dysphoria, saying you wish you were born a woman DOES NOT make you trans.

>>7395633
I'm openly bi.

I usually don't think about sucking cock when looking my father in the eye and my sexuality isn't what define me, not in my nor in his eyes.

Sex is nice, I've never thought about it as degrading or disgusting.

I'm sorry for you anon.

>>7395811
When you introduce your boyfriend to your father, you're basically saying "hi dad, this is the man that fucks me on a regular basis". I can't get that out of my head, it's not what men are supposed to do, you know? Who respects that? I don't get it.

>>7395821
I've never introduced a boyfriend to my father, I want to say that it would feel no different than to introduce a girlfriend but honestly I don't know.

>it's not what men are supposed to do
I don't really care what people do with each other in the bedroom so I can't really help you with that. If my father'd have a problem with what or who I put in my ass that's honestly his problem.

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>>7395633

Because I'm not a sexually repressed puritan.

I (and my family for that matter.) just kinda go with the flow of things and take life as it comes, try to enjoy this fleeting existence while it lasts.

There's no reason to hate yourself for something if it doesn't directly hurt others.

There's no need to be upset.

Just embrace the gay friendo. Cuddle with qtbois. Have comfy cuddle-sex. Enjoy life.

It's not that difficult.

>>7395807
Not always some rather experience gender euphoria when doing girly stuff

>>7395859
>gender euphoria

That's not even a real thing. I'm talking about the real world, not like Tumblr and other made up shit.

You aren't trans if you don't have dysphoria, end of story.

>>7395838
It's not so much if your father had a problem or not, I know my father wouldn't have a problem with it. It's just I don't want to be seen as a homosexual. Do you not feel this way also? Like, I don't want my father to think of me as gay, even if he wouldn't have a problem with it.

It's hard to explain.

>>7395926
I didn't experience any as a kid, but now I do but I wish someone had told me earlier about trans

>>7395931
I don't really know what to answer. Thoughts like that have just never occurred to me, sexuality and/or who you fuck have never been that big of a deal to me.

>>7395931
You're homophobic, it's as simple as that.

You're not ashamed of telling your father who you have sex with, you're afraid of telling him you have sex with men. You don't think others will hate you for it if you'd came out, you know you'd hate yourself for being seen as gay. And you do already hate yourself for having gay sex as you stated in the OP.

Internalized homophobia is a bitch, I'm in the same. boat. At least I'm aware of it but don't ask me how to make it go away.

>>7396096
>You're homophobic, it's as simple as that.

Maybe you're right. I don't look down on gay people or think of them as bad, but I just don't see myself as one of them and I don't want to be lumped in the same group as them.

>You don't think others will hate you for it if you'd came out, you know you'd hate yourself for being seen as gay.

Damn. That hits close to home. Absolutely correct amigo.

What is the question even, you said you are repressed. Maybe you should jerk off to the idea of your dad domming you like you really want and climax when it feels most shameful.
Alternatively, you can stay closeted until they die.

>>7396114
The question is, how do you not be repressed?

>>7396117
Not be repressed? You just think of all the things that are effected by
Dont be gay
Stop doing that faggot
Look at that gayfaced faggot
Shameful display
And manually override them.
I gave you easy mode, which is never come out, but if you want full alpha mode dont 'come out' but let your parents understand you are gay.
Damn shes hot! Lol i dno im gay
When are you going to bring a girl for us to meet, faggot? Im not lol im gay.

>>7396111
How old are you, OP?

>>7396096
Just pray the gay away senpai

>>7396143
Twenty one.

>>7395633

>Let me start by saying I am a deeply repressed homosexual

Stop that, is no good for you

>I come here today to ask other gays (the open ones) "how do you do it"? How can you look your own father in the eye with him knowing you're a homo that sucks cock like a woman?

It's immensely freeing when you stop caring what other people might think and just do what you enjoy. I have a very stereotypical 'campy gay boy gets ex-military, dyed-in-the-wool conservative step-dad' situation going on, we find common ground by making fun of that fact. Neither of us really care.

>How did you manage to have gay sex and not feel completely degraded and disgusted with your own actions eitherwards?

By screaming no homo during.

>>7395633
Who cares. Your dad probably sucked a cock in his younger days too. He can relate. /

>it's a "tranny tries to convince herself she's just gay" episode

>it's a convince a "non-trans person they are trans" episode

>>7396174
Remember, gay sex is only emasculating if you cry.

>>7396275
>I wish I was born a woman

>>7396275
Sounds as though someone's feeling nervous t b h. Are you ~sure~ what you feel isn't dysphoria? That it's not going to get worse?

>>7395931
I think a lot of people feel this way. Before I came out my biggest fear was the same as yours. My sister is openly gay and I have many gay friends in my social circle, so I knew that my family and friends would be totally accepting of me. However, I was still terrified of the stigma that would be attached to me if people knew I was gay. People would define me as "that gay guy", even subconsciously. That really fucked me up.
Eventually, I think I realised that my happiness isn't governed by how other people view me. Or, at least, it's nowhere near the most important factor. I'd rather be in a loving and fulfilling relationship than have people think I was a straight virgin.

>>7396302
Who doesn't wish that, desu? I don't think it really indicates anything.

>>7396503
>My sister is openly gay
are your parents cousins or something

>>7395633
>Let me start by saying I am a deeply repressed homosexual.
>I come here today to ask other gays (the open ones) "how do you do it"? How do I tell my dad that I'm gay without feeling uncomfortable?
>Why can't I manage to have gay sex and not feel completely degraded and disgusted with your my actions eitherwards?
>I'm not trolling. I just really want to understand.

Some smal l changes made you WAY less of an asshole

>>7395821
This makes me hard, actually

>>7396311
Yes? And? If I could take a pill tomorrow to make me a woman I would, but it doesn't exist. I'm happy being a man anyway, I don't have dysphoria and I'm not trans.

What you're doing is really shitty. I imagine it would work on some more impressionable people too. You're basically trying to fuck their lives up so you can get off to it or something. Sad.

>>7396785
This for >>7396302

>>7396785
I don't mean to be rude, but that syntax is glowingly feminine. You're clearly under some anxiety; asking about hormones couldn't hurt.

>>7395726
Lol to be honest I thought the exact same thing from just a cursory glance.

>>7395801
>I wish I was born a woman
>>7396785
>If I could take a pill tomorrow to make me a woman I would

Aaaand we fucking called it lmao.

>>7396914
Uh... someone saying that doesn't mean they are trans. If you don't have gender dysphoria you are not trans. Sounds like you're projecting your AGP onto other people...

>>7395633
>respecting my parents' opinions
Should I have respected them before or after the gay conversion therapy?

>>7396785
>Sad!*

fixed

>>7395633
You need to have courage. Man up. Who you lay with at night is no one's fucking business, if you don't want it to be. What matters is what you do with your time and how much you accomplish in one day.

In other words, if something so small as you like other guys and want to play with them, is enough for your dad to lose his shit and deny you blood of his blood, then your dad obviously needs more interesting shit to do. Cause there is more important matters out there in the world than one guys desire to gobble penis like a little slut.

I usually have a soft spot for other gay guys in my own age, but right now I'm feeling pretty coldhearted

I think you are weak and I don't respect you. :I

Being ashamed of your sexuality is what's really shameful. Being proud is dumb too imo

You're priorities in life are stupid

I am a meanie >:c

>>7396785
>I don't have dysphoria
You clearly do.

But fear not. This is not a 0 or 1 thing. You're probably just ever so slightly trans, which means that, with therapy, you should be able to lead a somewhat normal life.

In fact that's what I'd suggest for your OP, as well. You clearly have issues you need to have checked and ain't no one better at it than a professional.

Now, for most trans people, therapy alone ain't gonna be enough. Hell, for most trans people, even transitioning and SRS isn't enough. Lucky you, you have weak dysphoria, so you can probably not even transition. I'd guess just having a bf and crossdressing from time to time should be enough to keep your dysphoria in check. Maybe therapy would even make you only need the bf, who knows.

Get therapy.

>>7395633
just be glad you're not a tranny

>>7400476
alright i take that back after reading more than the first post. you are a tranny after all

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>tfw the post has nothing to do with trannies but yet the trannies hve managed to steer this thread, along with 95% of the threads on this board, into being about trannies

>>7400487
Fuck off, seriously.

>>7395633
Well considering my relationship with my Father isn't all the great. I don't really have to concern myself with all the extra "Dad, I'm gay" bullshit. Besides, I came out to my family when I was 19 so all that is a done deal. My Father hates my homosexuality as I suspected he would and it isn't going to make our relationship any better or worse than what it already is. I managed to have gay sex and not feel gross about it about the same time I accepted my homosexuality. It definitely wasn't an overnight solution, but I'm happy with myself and all the things that come with coming out to my parents and being an openly gay man.

>>7395633
I don't know my father, why the fuck do you think i suck dick?

>>7395859
A G P
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>>7395821
If the shoe was on the other foot... Which in turn explains why so many people from the LGBTQ community say that so many of the people they deal with on a regular day to day basis have no empathy. The empathy gap is real.

>>7396184
FUCKING THIS! I worked in a very VERY heterosexual male dominated industry where locker rooms/bath houses were part of day to day operations. The shit that "heterosexual" men do on a day to day basis is probably just as if not more disturbing by their own standards. "Straight" men are pretty fucking gay gentlemen.

>>7396503
The phrase "I'd rather be hated for being myself than be loved for something I am not." comes to mind.

>>7395633
>How can you look your own father in the eye with him knowing you're a homo that sucks cock like a woman?
Haven't seen him in about 10 years so it's a non-issue.
>How did you manage to have gay sex and not feel completely degraded and disgusted with your own actions eitherwards?
Because it felt so good and it feels great to have love and intimate connection with someone. Just looking at him gave me butterflies in my stomach and I felt all floaty and bubbly and happy all the time when it first began. I still get feels like that with him. Just sitting there staring into his eyes while cuddling, etc. I've never slept around, only ever had one BF who I'm still with and he's the only one to have had sex with me or even done any sexual things at all.

Also not going to lie the "forbidden love" aspect of it did make it more exciting, but that's long since worn off.

>>7396999
>If you don't have gender dysphoria you are not trans.

Ugh, tell that to my cousin and ex-boyfriend, please. (Two separate people, for the record).

>"how do you do it"?
Very well I am told. I'm openly bi, versatile
>How can you look your own father in the eye with him knowing you're a homo that sucks cock like a woman?
Dad's dead so I dodged that bullet. Chances are if he were alive when I got a boyfriend one of us would have been dead. Probably him because he was old as fuck.
>How did you manage to have gay sex and not feel completely degraded and disgusted with your own actions eitherwards?
I'm horny as fuck. Sex feels good regardless of who I'm fucking or being fucked by. I made a conscious decision that if something felt that good and was considered "bad" than either society is wrong or I am just going to be a "bad" person. Considering the many ways societies have changed over time, and how things that were considered horribly evil are not considered good I am inclined to go with the former. People will judge you for numerous things you have no control over, from your skin color to your height. How can I fear the judgment of such people?

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If you think that being gay is about sucking dick and having gay sex, you are probably just a shitposting fujoshi. Back to /y/ with you, faghagging scum.

>>7404476
Are they trannies in denial?

>>7405412
I'm worried they're the opposite - confused guys into crossdressing who think they're trannies.

I know that's a horrible thing to say on this board, but neither of them have ever experienced any kind of gender dysphoria. My cousin has been into crossdressing since he was 14 and my ex was into drag. My cousin is bi - leaning towards women, my ex is pretty flaming.

Both of them are extremely fickle - they have no idea what they want to do with their lives and will fixate on a certain hobby or idea intensely for awhile and then abandon it. My ex especially is ditzy as fuck and grandiose and unrealistic about life in general. My cousin is similar, and both are self absorbed. It's only been the last year or so that they've got this trans idea in their heads (they don't know each other - this happened separately). But like I said - neither have ever had any history of dysphoria or have ever shown signs of this growing up. So it seems as though this is just another one of their crazy ideas or a passing fad or whatever. I'm not sure what to think.

>>7395633
But how can I look your father in the eye when he's busy sucking another man's cock ?

>>7395633
>How did you manage to have gay sex and not feel completely degraded and disgusted with your own actions eitherwards?
By realising that all these feelings are because of straight people indoctrinating you with the idea that gay sex is the most revolting thing on earth.
Once you realise the vast majority of straight people are vile inhuman scum, you'll see their indoctrination for what it really is, and thus can you ignore it.

>>7395701
>If your father sees less dignity in the action than in its concealment, then he's a bum with no sense of honour.
On the same hand it isn't really honorable to boast about your sexually deviant proclivities.

>>7395633
Top cuck

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I used to feel the same way. And sometimes i still do. But what you need to understand is that most people are vile creatures who could not acknowledge any virtue or moral perceptiveness if it would slap them in the face.
Live is so terribly short, and sexuality is much more then just "sucking dick". It is to be romanticly involved with someone whom you love and sex is just a part of that. But if you have that romantic inclination towards guys why not pursue that? You have no allegienge to give to your parents whatsoever. They don't like it? Fuck em then. Live is to short. Becoming financially independant and breaking from my family was the best decision i ever made. Also go to therapy, talking about this with an professional helps.

I don't get it either, I feel disgusting just for fapping to gay porn.

I think the key is finding someone you're romantically interested in.

>>7409529
Well to be fair gay sex (that with gay men) is pretty disturbing. You guys literally lick each others assholes and ram your fingers and fists up each others poop shooters and that's just the tip of the ice-berg. You have to admit that's some pretty fucked up shit. It's no wonder gays have such high hiv rates. Not to mention the high rick of prostate cancer from anal sex.

You gays that are bottoms should just get vagina's, I mean you're half way there anyway. lol

>>7409545
There's a difference between bragging about getting laid, and telling your own father a piece of information that will definitely have consequences on your life.

Plus, straight guys constantly brag about their sexual conquests, and only puritans call them degenerate, so why would a much milder action be worse?

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>>7410711
>not doing it oxford style with the lights off