/tgg/ Trans Girl General

>>7351156
I feel pretty good right now, how long should I expect this to last?

>>7351267
kinda hard to answer without more details

I actually like this thread.

>>7351267
how long does it usually last

>>7352203
About as long as the average Tgirls dick.

>>7352250
:(

>>7352250
6.5"?

>>7351290
same, wish it'd stay more active

>>7352336
whoa

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no bully edition

Hey how's it going everyone. I've never been here before so please excuse me if I say something painfully stupid. I have a crush on a transgirl I met at university in Auckland. We're not really that close but we maintain the occasional contact and get along pretty well. I have no idea how to approach her, and even If everything works out I have a lot of doubts because I don't understand alot of things and have no one I can ask. I am a guy and don't actually know the relationship/courtship dynamics involved in anything like this. I have only ever dated women in the past, and everybody thinks I'm straight. I don't know if she is into guys, and don't know how to ask. I don't even know how to initiate the conversation. Also I don't know how sex works. And once I again I don't know how to approach the subject. Can someone offer up some advice? much appreciated.

>>7352584
treat her the same way you would treat any other girl

and for sex put your dick in her butt

>>7352599
it's not the butt I don't know how to handle.

>>7352350
tucking is basically impossible

>>7352601
it depends on how she feels about her dick
she'll tell you if she doesn't want to play with it if you actually get to the point of being in bed with her

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>>7352393

>>7352637
i am sorry

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>When your dysphoria seemingly disappears after you wake up one day and you hate that because every minute you're not feeling it makes you question yourself and just makes you more and more confused as to whether or not you're really trans

>>7352838
dysphoria comes and goes for almost everyone, mercifully

>>7352864
Honestly though, at least lately, I've felt much happier in those moments when I'm most sure because I can look forward to eventually transitioning and what my life could be like and I have something in my life I can look forward to. When I'm conflicted it literally makes my head hurt sometimes.

>>7352902
sounds very trans

>>7352907
Really?

>>7352952
yes really

dysphoria comes in waves and sometimes it isn't there for a while, and you obviously want to transition. it's difficult to look forward to being a guy doing anything imo

I'm just happy that this thread is still alive at all. It's nice to just talk to all of you about whatever.

>>7352838
Sometimes I feel like a split personality, one part being a girl and wanting to transition, the other being perfectly fine with being male.

>>7353246
Been there, felt that.

Started HRT and never looked back.

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>Have to get up for work in a few hours
>Can't will myself to feel sleepy but know I'm exhausted
>It's been a shit day and insomnia is here to chill.

Have a gorgeous lady I used as a reference for my haircut.

>>7353252
Why cant the other part win? I cant be a woman and I dont want to be trans.

>>7353263
Because you're broken like the rest of us, it won't win.

Welcome to the shit situation, make the best of it and have some coffee.

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>>7353270
That hit too close
t-thanks

>>7351156
>Yfw your best and only friend constantly tells you that he wishes you were a girl.
>Yfw you will never be able to have kids with your best friend and love them forever.
It's like someone is trying to make life un-livable.

>>7353387
you can still be with them and love them and have them love you just as much and spend your lives together

>>7353213
Indeed. This place is nice.

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>>7353260
>I used as a reference for my haircut.

>>7352584
>I have only ever dated women in the past, and everybody thinks I'm straight
This triggers me.

First you use female pronounce, and now you're basically saying she's a man...

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Oh my god... All these youtube videos.
I so wish I had one of those feminie bodies and faces, and to be young.

That's pretty much all that matters.
Be pretty, get a good boyfriend, get to feel pretty and sexy around him and pretty much everyone else.

>>7353886
>tfw you just want to be pretty but it takes a lot of effort and I need lots of work done before I can be

>>7353892
>tfw kust want to be cute and dainty but that's literally impossible
>the best I'll ever be even with tons of work will be pretty
i dont even want to be sexy/hot
I just want to be held and comforted and treated like a smol cute girlfriend

>>7353897
I'd settle for looking decent but instead my skin is fucking disgusting and my face will always be a man's face.

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>>7351156
don't be jealous, hons. i pass and i know it. would you fuck me though?

>>7353962
>those man hands larger than your phone

>>7353962
Where the hell are your hips

>>7353975
>>7354032
She looks fine, but probably some AGP transbian, or delusional 4chaner who thinks it's "hot" to show penis.

>>7353577
Don't look so shocked anon. I'm not pretty and I don't pretend I am.

>>7353975
triggered
>>7354032
triggered? triggered. yup.

both y'all are dumb, cause I just baited the shit out of the two of you, purely for fun. and you took it like a bat to the head. but not like champs.

>>7354081
Not either of the anons you replied to

Go do this bullshit somewhere else or make your own thread please.

>>7354073
you misunderstand. with a haircut reference like that, i certainly wasn't assuming you're pretty

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Damn you chinese sales sites.
I kind of want to buy these, probably in beige.

like $30.
I wish the reviews would tell me if they smell horrid or not.

>>7354359
Oh well, found on another site that they do smell...
Why must all the chinese shoes and bags smell?

>>7352838
This is pretty much every other week for me

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>>7354359
>>7354396
Hmmmmm!!!!
I want to buy them, even if they smell.
I can try whatever home remedies there are to make them not smell.

Now, what to do about sizing?
Feet are 24.3-24.5cm, with like normal/thin socks on, and making sure the line is outside the foot contour when drawing (checking from above).

So, then I guess an US 8,5?
I do have a pair of chinese heels at 8,5, and they're a very close/tight fit if I'm wearing normal/thin socks.
I could of course go up to a US 9, and then I would be sure they won't be too small, and I could even wear thicker socks in them, and then practically wear them as winter shoes.

BUT... It's around this size that the shoes start to look a bit odd, that they're looking too big for the heel.
So maybe I'm better off going with US 8,5.

Gonna sleep now though! Hopefully I've gotten some kind of confirmation that I'm not making a bad decision by the time I wake up, in like 9-10 hrs.
One of you better be on at that time!

>>7354359
>>7354396
I buy a lot of fake chinese stuff because I'm a huge faggot, and I'm gonna tell you right now that buying those is probably a bad idea. Unless they're from a reputable seller they'll 1. look nothing like the pictures and 2. fall apart. I can't imagine chinese made heel boots would be terribly safe to walk around in.

They're cute though, so I implore you to go through with it and tell us how they look when they get there.

>>7354640
>>7354694
Also: Check the reviews for sizing. It'll give you a better idea of what'll fit than the listed measurements will.

And use an agent if you're on taobao.

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>>7354703
Using AliExpress.

But, 24.5cm is usually either EU 38, or EU 39, depending on who made the shoes.
If it's a European brand, especially the nordic countries, they can oftentimes fit EU 38, because apparently we've started to make our size about 1 size larger than what they're listed as (because of people getting taller, and with it getting bigger feet).
However, with non-nordic shoes I think I need EU 39.

I think these would be fairly cute as winterish shoes, so maybe I should just go with EU 40, and use normal/thicker socks in them.
The heel is a bit steeper on these than the ones I bought before, pic related (kind of want to just cut off those bands around the shoes, to make them a bit less busy). Never used them outside though, not quite there yet.
So, Then it's probably a better idea to go with EU 40.

Buuuuuuut... I don't want the shoes to look too big, the reason I like heels is pretty much because it makes feets look shorter and cuter, and of course also because their design is much more fun.

Is it even possible to find an equivalent shoe size in women's for someone who wears a 15 men's?

>>7354640
Ok, now I'm leaning towards 8.5, and then try to stretch them out with Ice in the freezer, to make the toes a tad larger, without really making the shoe appear a size larger.

>>7354800
There's Fullybeauty, Nordstrom, Zappos, and supposedly LongTallSally is supposed to have some at size 13+.

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>>7354899
I'm not sure exactly how mens to womens conversion works in the US, but maybe you would actually need size 16?
Might be possible to stretch them if needed, like with a hair dryer if they're in leather, or with ice enlargement if they're in other materials... There are some "DIY" videos about it, but I don't think it can get much bigger than 1 size larger, unless you cut out the back of the shoe (and replace it with your own back of the shoe, further back).

I want to fuck all of you.

>>7354934
Actually, they have all the way up to size 17 on FullBeauty.

Small shoe selection, but it exists.

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Dear girls,

I don't know you at all, but I love you.

You may be an ugly man, who's too tall, too broad and who's feet are too big, but that's ok. We both know you are a girl, and that is all that ultimately matters.

I want you all to take today as it is and forget about passing. Just for today. And if you feel it getting a little hard for yourself I have a mantra for you: I accept where my body is at today and I show up for myself fully.

You got this girls. Stop worrying about what dumb boys think. Just worry about feeling healthy and stable :)

You don't need validation from some doctor or some chaser to start loving yourself. Invest in self esteem, because you are all worth the life you have.

You're a good girl, you got this <3

>>7355728
im not going to let you suck my dick bro

>>7355766

I , a <3

>>7355788
>>7355766


Lol let's try that again...

I still love you, even if you are a cynical cunt <3

>>7354640
woaa .. I thought I was 12 in womens. Now I measure and see that my foot is less than 27 cm. I'm hoping the meme is correct and I'll lose 1-2 cm more and will be able to wear anything I want.

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I made this b/c I'm ugly and hate myself but it also made me laugh so whatever maybe someone here will appreciate this

>>7355728
>>7354934
>>7354758
this triggers my agp reeee

>>7354118
Oh good, I'm glad that's already out of the way then.

>>7355728
Thank you, that's sweet of you, but as someone who has to interact with the public for a job it's women who are the most unable to control their body language. It's hard to deal with sometimes.

What are some good easy makeup things I could start myself off with? I'd prefer getting a routine of stuff going that I could do before work and be comfortable working in. Foundation, concealer, and eyeliner come to mind.

>>7356250
Wish I could give you some advice anon but I look like a ghoul in makeup. But working with mostly cis girls I can tell you that they rarely wear anything more than that, if any makeup at all.

>>7356250
Brows and mascara, and maybe a neutral lip, both come before eyeliner on my priority list but ymmv

>>7356320
Search tutorials for "natural" looks. Idea is to look like you're not wearing makeup when you really are

Why the fuck is this always on page 1 even though no one posts here?

>>7356320
(Psst, you forgot to remove your trip.)

>>7356364
Unlike /mtfg/ we never hit the bump limit.

>>7356366
Embarrassing. I'm dumb and should have checked, I'm sorry.
>>7356355
Everything I know so far is about looking natural so I guess I'm in the right direction.

>>7356380
You faggot, Im gonna shit on you in mtfg for coming here. Fucking hons ruins everything.

>>7356389
no bully >:(

>>7356364
I post here all the time anon, I don't post in mtfgen (or even bother reading it).

>>7353962
Yes

As a male, is it possible to get a transbien to fall for me? Has any former transbien turned into liking masculine men?

>>7357217
>Has any former transbien turned into liking masculine men?
I have but you can't force it, has to happen on their own. Don't think you can redpill some transbian you chaser fuck.

>>7357228
Hahaha, yeah that's very true, just wondered if it can happen. I hear the longer you take estrogen, your preferences start doing weird things.

>>7357217
>As a male, is it possible to get a transbien to fall for me?
Sure, you'll just need to transition yourself. (Joking, joking.)
>Has any former transbien turned into liking masculine men?
It's not uncommon for people that were mainly into girls to start liking guys more on HRT, but it's not guaranteed.

>>7354359
Brown or beige?
US 8.5 + potential stretching,. or US 9?

I kinda like beige, because it works better with light colors.
But in the winter you don't really wear bright colors, and the brown looks warmer.

With size, I rather go 8.5 I think, with some stretching, because then the foot doesn't look too long.

>>7357217
How to trick a transbian (me) into falling for a man:

>Be female at birth
>Get me to fall in love with you
>Turn out to be FtM
>Love you too much to ever leave

And that's how it happened.

>>7357623
sounds like you already have fallen for him

>>7357477
>>7354359
pleas! Don't make me go to /mtfg/

Brown or Beige?

Brown is more wintry, and would work with black.

Beige is the nicer color, but I don't think would work with black jeans so well, but would work much better with bluer jeans.

>>7357663
My SO? Been together a very long time, so yes.

Time for my monthly ritual of 'attempt to remove body hair via [METHOD], fuck it up and cry for half an hour'!

>>7358321
with a mini-torture machine aka epilator?

>>7358339
It was waxing this month.

>>7358344
Sugar-waxing is not too bad

>>7358351
I just bought some cheap stupid shit like the idiot I am, got it all stuck to my skin, bruised and drew blood.

>>7358354
yikes
bruised from waxing?

>>7358365
Yeah, I guess I put it on too thick, or it got too cool, I don't know. I just tugged hard and it only pulled skin. Had to slowly separate it.
...Still hurt less than epilating. My dysphoria is pretty manageable until I do things like this.

>>7358368
Why not just use an epilator?

>>7358368
i dont have much body hair, but i still fugging hate the fact i have as much as i do

Well I bought the shoes, I hope they look good an don't smell.

>>7358374
My pain tolerance is non-existent.

>>7358430
in both colors, hope?

Hey guys. I have a question. Im trans mtf. Been self medicating since the end of may start of June. Im taking estrogen and spiro. I have a boyfriend and we are exclusive. But i have 2 issues. And i hope they arent std related or cause by hormones.

1. Blood coming out of the tip of my penis. Twice that i noticed after peeing and cleaned it. Once i notice blood on panties. This week only. Never before.

2 i have noticed a whitish maybe yellowish bump on the inside of my anus. It also has 1 or 2 dots of equal hue. Please help

>>7355728
I think you meant to post this in /mtfg/

>>7358487
those definitely don't sound like things caused by hrt... you should see a doctor.

>>7358504
Could they be std related?

>>7358509
its likely, but I have no knowledge of stds, you should ask google and your boyfriend

>>7358487
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/spironolactone/blood%20in%20the%20urine/

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>>7351156
Hello! Uhh... good people!
Did you know when we reach the Winter Solstice our Sun shall be aligned perfectly with the Galactic Nexus, the center of our galaxy. This happens once in one and a half million years my friends. It will be the most cozy of Dek- embers

>>7358487
Holy shit anon go to a doctor that would scare me to death.

>>7359276
Really? Neat. Sgr A* can't devour this planet soon enough. Yes I know the Sun will get us first.

Maybe when we align some cool aliens will show up and inspire humanity to stop being such bastards to each other when they tell us we don't matter.

>>7359276
thats my birthday

>>7359342
everyone matters in someway
we're not the center of the universe, but everything is relative and things mattering is just a concept based on what we define as important
and importance is always relative to ones feelings, ideas and life situation

>>7359276
I won't have a bf then anyway...

>>7358466
Only in brown

>>7358487
>1. Blood coming out of the tip of my penis. Twice that i noticed after peeing and cleaned it. Once i notice blood on panties. This week only. Never before.
Kidney disease
>2 i have noticed a whitish maybe yellowish bump on the inside of my anus. It also has 1 or 2 dots of equal hue. Please help
Cancer or the 'roids

>tfw transition will never end
Need facial hair removal, which is covered with national health care... Except, they send us a long way (4.5 hours one way), to places who aren't agile or helpful... So you get maybe like 1-2 hours max per week done (you need 30hours over 6 weeks), even if they did cooperate, the pain + travel is just too much.
It's absolute torture because you don't get any local anesthetic, you body litter ends up in a paniced state, I believe after a while you'd develop PTSD or some mental issue.

They could send you to somebody closer, and who can properly do it, but then they'd have to pay for it in a different way.
Now I've read that some people in some places in the country can get payed hotel stay, when the travel is too long.... But I doubt the place I live will pay for it. So I might just have to move across the country to be able to take a train down to where I can get treatment, in live in hotels for a year.

It's just so fucked up.

>>7361692
Don't complain about free m8
We don't get shit

>>7361709
I just told you, it's not free, it's just advertised as free.

>>7358433
next time take a few ibuprofen or get a little drunk before you do it

once you do it the first time it will be way less painful after because there will be less hair to pluck

>>7362104
I tried that, I just threw up and cried more than usual since I never drink. Ibuprofen is a good idea.

>>7362669
alcohol is the worst, always makes me sick
also don't really like its effect

>>7362669
>>7362926
yeah i meant just a little bit so you have a slight buzz

>>7358433
>>7362669
I always epilate my legs while in the bath, just soak in warm water and epilate while you're wet, and just dip your legs back in the water whenever necessary. it eliminates nearly all the pain for me, just make sure your epilator is a wet/dry waterproof one in case u get water in it.

hey everyone, i'm new to this place (this board specifically; i used to post on /x/ and /b/ like 6 years ago). apparently someone posted me in the "hon" thread which I'm interpreting as people making fun of non-passing trans women. is that how this place normally goes? i remember 4chan as being spiteful but i thought this board would be different. probably because i'm an idiot.

>>7363440
>is that how this place normally goes?
yes, and could you please get out of our thread? This one is for actual trans women..

>>7363440
We are spiteful and prioritise aesthetics over compassion. It's a kind of military culture that makes us crisis-robust and keeps us unsurprised in the face of Black Swan events. We're like the only site on the web that didn't have to undergo a cultural reformation due to Trump, for example.

Also kys pussy

>>7363506
>>7363526

cool. i'll bugger off then and leave yall to your self-destruction. kysses to the both of you.

>>7363544
lmao a hon talking about self-destruction

>>7362669
You do shave before you epilate, right?

Always shave first, then go over with an epilater every day for a while. The key is to take as few hairs at a time as possible.
The only place I can't deal with epilating is pubic hair... Arm pits and legs are no biggie.

>>7363689
I usually shave, wait a few days, then epilate when all are at a small length. But your way is so sensible I feel like an idiot for not thinking of it.

what do you guys think about this stuff for hair removal?
its like nair but permanent
https://hair-free-hair-remover.com/

>>7363851
Most probably doesn't work.

They only have a 60 day money back thing, which isn't long enough to know if it's permanent.
Unless you're able to try it, and then demand the money back, and wait to see if it actually works.
If it does, then you just buy it again.

Is there some online site or something to meet other trans people. I've tried trans meet ups and groups irl, but because I might as well be mute I haven't been able to make any friends despite going to them for several months,and not talking to anyone has started to bring me down a little bit.

>>7364636
there's always 4chan
where are you from?

>>7364636

Other than rl group meetups or support groups, CL or 4chan are the only other places I can think of. Would you consider a pen pal, or something like that? What outcomes are you looking for?

>>7364839
Wtf is cl

>>7364934
craigslist (i had to think too)

>>7354640
>the not on the scale because size 46EU

>>7364710
Canada

>>7364839
Just someone to talk to without much compromise. Ideally I'd say someone I'm looking for a friend, but just someone to talk to once in a while would be alright,since I'm also busy with college stuff. Like a penpal, sure.

>>7363851
If that worked everyone would use it

>>7355728
>You don't need validation from some doctor or some chaser to start loving yourself.
yes i do. if i'm not super critical of every part of me, then i risk being delusional and thinking i'm better than i am

>>7354640
that seems incorrect because the correct size comparieon US-EU would be 12 US to 44 EU
i know because i have never been able to fit in a 11 US but 44 EU and 12 US fits just fine

>>7365632

Makes sense, I would be happy to read a letter and reply in kind. Something to think about.

>>7366204

You realise that being super critical can make you just as delusional right? Instead you would fixate too much and believe you are worse than you really are. If I was delusional I think I'd rather believe the thing that made me happy, not miserable :)

>>7366388
i'm just scared of losing my self-awareness..... i've had ppl say i'm delusional, but i legit see what i say.

>>7366388
She's got a point. This board has a tendency to make you hyper-critical to a self-destructive point.

>>7366514
It's kind of like an artist with a piece of art anon. The artist is intimately familiar with every minute mistake or little thing that isn't even really a mistake but just could have been better, but nobody else sees these things because they're looking at the whole picture and often will never notice unless it's pointed out.

Hence why artists never point out mistakes.

>>7366388
I'd love to. I can give you my email if you want.

>>7366516
heh, i might be the poster child for that at this point.
>>7366523
yeah, but my face and body is like terrible art still. i dropped 100lbs in 2016, but i need to lose 50 more to be out of the triple digit range, so i don't like look fucking huge and maybe end up with .1 inch of my shoulders. i need to be 15.5" end to end to be decent desu...

>>7366558
unless you are like 5'0 under 100lbs is going to be unhealthy and look terrible

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>>7366634
5'4" and i mean this is like fucking rad weight desu....

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>>7366645
yeah ikr so sexy

>>7366766
everyone takes this to the extremes....... like damn, they just have clothes drape on them well.
also, like i need to fucking remove anything around my shoulders... like they are massive rn, and i need it to be smaller.

My endo said no to progesterone for some reason so I ordered more estrogen and upped my dosage without telling them, then she said we needed to lower my dose because it was too high.

I played myself.

I know I can't speed the process, but wouldn't I have better results with more estrogen?

Also, would my estrogen spike again if I started taking pueraria mirifica?

>>7366773
im just kidding mostly im 120lb at ~5'9 but i still feel fat but i know i shouldn't really go lower than this
i guess what i am saying is try not to let weightloss become an obsession and get out of hand

>>7366784
>wouldn't I have better results with more estrogen?
what matters is your levels not the dosage
like if 2mg or something is giving you levels within female range you shouldn't be taking more

>would my estrogen spike again if I started taking pueraria mirifica?
pueraria mirifica will make your hrt less effective and your estrogen lower because basically it binds to the same receptors that your hrt wants to so it blocks the hrt estrogen from having any effect

is prog a meme or not?
>>7366784
herbs don't work.
>>7366789
yeah, i see where that would be p fucking bad....

>>7351156
Cypro causes you to lose hair get fat, gain body hair and ages faster. You're welcome, and I'm sorry.

>>7366784

PM is only for the super desperate, or the cautious who cant get access to titty skittles any other way. You want to be off that stuff for a while before you start HRT. I can attest to its function it does actually help if you are having doubts about whether HRT would work for your dysphoria, it is cheaper and there are less hurdles to jump through to get your hands on it, regardless of where you live. That said, don't waste your time, HRT is superior in EVERY way.

>>7366789

Didn't you know it is considered healthy to have BDD now?

>>7365618
what province?

>>7367219
Nova Scotia

>>7367310
Yo I have family up there. Living in Maine rn though. You ever been to Grand Mira?

>>7367369
I'm afraid not, but I've apparently travelled thorugh the whole province drunk so maybe I just don't remember, that's awesome tho.

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Does domperidone actually work for breast growth/development or is it just a meme?

>>7367310
im from alberta

>>7367616
That's awesome, I've gone to Edmonton a couple times but I haven't had the chance to know the rest of the province, what's up senpai?

>>7367640
neet life is up

I-is this the mtf general free of annoying trips who try to get into each other panties?

I didn't know such a place existed...

>>7367669
Are you at least comfy senpai? Weather's getting pretty fucked.

>>7367677
Sorta, yup.

>>7367679
yea, i don't have it too bad, its cold outside but it's okay in here
just sick of being alone and sick of wanting to die

>>7367690
Well I'm not a psychologist or anything but maybe if it makes you feel better we can talk for a bit or something. If that's alright with you that is. I'm on the same boat right now.

>>7367697
how?

>>7367689
Oh thank god...I cannot stand those people in mtfg...they're all gross transbians and remind me of tranny chasers.

>>7367708
Through here if you don't want to get too personal, or email I guess. Or not, if you don't feel like it.

>>7367725
you got discord?

>>7367772
No, but I can make one, my mic and camera are broken tho

I just sent you the username and stuffs.

>>7366546

[email protected]

Send me your email address to that one, it's just a random burner :) that way you aren't doxing yourself.

>>7366516
>>7366514

Of course I got a point :) I'm not going to give up on you girls. I'm going to stay positive and help as many of you as I can <3

That said, im not going give you hugbox bullshit though, you want that? Fuck off to leddit or tumblah... It's about balance. Something a lot of you don't seem to understand. But there is soooooo much negativity and self loathing the only balance I can bring is positivity and compassion.

I am secure in myself, thank fuck, as I get called hon all the time on here for trying to be nice to people. But I know it's because some girls just really need cuddles and head pats. It's ok bitches, I still love you ^_^

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>tfw will never be perfect
These porn commercials are the worst.

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>Electrolysis makes the face look like crap with red marks for 1-2 weeks afterwards
>But still have to go to work

>>7368202
neet master race

>>7368202

book leave :P

>>7368202
Just FYI, you need like 20 hours a month, unless it's real electrolysis.

>>7368315
I usually get 4 since thats all I can really afford a month. Slow and steady

looking for a pair of thigh high socks
suggestions

>>7367965
Thank you.

>>7368202
Laser's not much better.
>redness for a little while after
>swelling that lasts a day or two
>Burnt, dead hair that takes up to a week to finally push its way out
>Anything you eat for a few hours after tastes like the smell of burnt hair

Not as bad as Electro I'm sure but we can all suffer together at least.

>>7368401
sockdreams.com

Holy fuck

>>7368420

but i need it to arrive quickly and discretely

>>7368396
The problem is though, every hair needs to be sapped multiple times, and I think the hair can regrow it's strength again if it's too long between every zap.

When you only do 4 hours, unless you do in a very small area, you won't know when the same hair grows out again.
Since you won't zap it as soon as it comes out again, it'll regain it's strength, and you're back at square one.

So, you'll be better off saving money for a year or two (at the speed you're going, it'll take 4+ years even if they don't regrow in strength, it takes 100-400 hours to clear a face), to do marathon electrolysis.
Or, do either the real electrolysis, or the blend method.

>>7366220
Well, the US size isn't all that important, because china either uses a sizing like EU, or they use mm sizes instead.

>>7366220
at least someone has feet as big as mine

>>7368957
I also have to wear a US size 12 :\

>>7368957
>>7369008
it's not that bad, there are worse things i think
of course i would rather have 8 or 9 but at least they look proportionate to my tall frame

>>7353962
yep

I hate how demeanor is everything. I hate how throwing on a hoodie and some velvet pants and just not giving a shit is the happiest way to be and passes the most often.

Fuck trying to wear anything pretty I guess.

>>7369371
makes me sad desu
i like pretty clothes

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I just wish I had a (tall) dad bf so that I could do whatever I want, and still have somebody safe to be supported by.

Life is just too hard, and sucks too much.

>>7369433
those shoes look like they hurt to wear

>>7369394
It kind of hurts, you know?

>>7369433
I can't imagine wearing those I'm already so tall.

>>7353246

Are you sure you aren't just bigender like me?

>>7369456
Yeah, I don't think I could wear them either.
I wish guys were taller on average, it just sucks that apparently almost all of them are short.

The average should be 6'2.

>>7369537
>bigender
What is that even? I'd totally be something inbetween if I could because how I feel changes almost daily.
Im really broken and confused.

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>>7351156
i've got a story for you all

i've been fulltime now for about a year and a half. been on mones even longer. i pass pretty well, i even had some strangers compliment my appearance today. i have a boyfriend, i have a job, i have a roof over my head, and i haven't been sirred in 3 years.

i'm living the dream right? it should be perfect. i should be content. the struggle should be over.

but fuck god damn it even today, even now, dysphoria will come crashing like a wave and make me feel so fucking shit. i've spent so long feeling ugly and freakish, that now if i just catch a photo of me looking kinda awkward or see my reflection in a weird light, i go spiraling into self-hatred like i'm fucking 14 again. it still hits me, to this day. and then i'll see a photo of a normal ciswoman and just want to claw out my heart and my lungs, frustrated and powerless in the knowledge that i'll never be as feminine.

i'm fucking embarrassed when a friend of mine, a coworker, asks me about hairstyles i've tried, and when I admit I don't know how to put my hair up in a bun or how to braid hair or anything like that, the patronizing condescension of "Oh I should teach you!" yes. remind me how my mother never taught me. remind me how i never got to have that childhood. remind me how i'm lacking in knowledge that's just second nature to people who were born in it and grew up in it. remind me of the freak that i am.

obviously i'm not upset at her, she's trying to pay me a favor. it's the principal of the thing.

i guess i just want to let anyone starting the process to know that your dysphoria, that hateful toxic feeling in the back of your chest, it's never going to go away. you can improve, you can pass, you can look cute, you can be pretty, but that feeling will never be killed for good. it can only be prolonged until it's triggered by some minor thing.

god im such a fucking failure

>>7369984
holy shit anon
also you're not a failure, it's just the nature of dysphoria
god damn you gave me some feels with that post

>>7369984
anon she wants to teach you because doing stuff like this is how girls socialize and bond.

>>7370071
I'm aware. It still just felt humiliating. it's like if someone offered to teach a man how to shave his beard. it makes me feel whatever the female equivelant of emasculation is. I've told her I'm trans, which surprised her, and I worry that it's one of those faghag type things that's done out of consolation.

>>7369984
I know that feel and I cant get over how much burning envy I feel towards pretty and happy women.

You are objectively good though if you pass AND have a good relationship, I'd kill for that. Maybe the rest of your internal problems can be solved by therapy or some other psychological means. Because you have made it, you are a girl and can fully enjoy your life and dont dwell on imperfections and struggles of transition you once had.

>>7367965
Sorry for the late response, I just sent you a mail.

>>7369984
What's life about anyway?

Working every day, and have a "boyfriend" who you just do boring things with, sounds like a living hell.

waiting nervously for a christmas miracle. urologist has an opening on the 28th of this month. had to get two letters from mental health professionals for genital surgery. waiting for approval from the insurance company sucks. got everything together and submitted on teusday. feels anxious batman

>>7370428
Are you getting your winky chopped off?

>>7370431
only the balls removed...

>>7369984
I know what u mean, I'm a few years into transition and though I pass completely and have a boyfriend there's still a lot of times where I feel dysphoric.
you shouldn't get upset over hairstyles or whatever though, a lot of cis women are clueless when it comes to that stuff, I learned a lot of that when I was a kid, my sister and I had a book that had a bunch of hair and braiding styles in it. My mom doesn't know how to do that stuff, and some women I've encountered knew less about makeup than I do. so I wouldnt get caught up in that stuff if I were u.

>>7369935
Bigender is one of those nonbinary things. Idea is you're two different genders, switching between them regularly with a stark difference between them.

Are any ladies here thinking of adopting? Or like, would you consider considering it when you're in a stable relationship?

It always really hurts that I can't get pregnant, even if I am glad I don't have to actually birth a child.

>>7373455
my bf and I will probably use a surrogate, or whatever technology is available when the time comes

>>7370092
there is no female equivalent of emasculation women dont have nuts so they dont get into pissing contests about whose are bigger so theres no way to actually loose your femininity.

How do you figure out 1) what clothing style you like, 2) what actually looks good on you, and 3) what to do when those two categories inevitably end up with no overlap whatsoever??

>>7371711
That's transvestism.
Bigender is not a thing, you're either cis with some mental complex that makes you want to play out the opposite gender role, or you're repressed trans.

You're probably better off going to femgen if you think you're "bigender".

>>7373631
Self-medding is probably your only chance, and you'll have to do it while living with them.
You can buy it from various sites, like inhousepharmacy.vu, and such... But I think you'll need some box, that you can order it too, and I don't know how you'd actually manage to buy them in the first place.

This is really important, so you should do your research about it, and not chicken out.

>>7373790
Maybe try to adopt a different mind set?
Clothes are to make you look good, so you should be happy with clothes if they make you look better.

>>7373613
unless you're a ugly helga type woman that works in a lumber mill and has bigger arms than most men

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>Intentionally try to gain weight over the course of 7 months to soften up my figure
>Only gained 3lbs
>tfw 6'3" @ 150lbs

goddammit

>>7374659
i wish i knew how tall i was and how much i weigh

Lads if I told you the original mtfg has become home to a cult dedicated to spreading STIs would you be at all surprised?

>>7374764
How do you not know

>>7373790

Get a stylist.
You obviously don't know what you're doing.

>What should I do if I try to build a house and it keeps falling down?
>Get an architect.

Professionals are there for a reason.

>>7374784
haven't weighed myself or had a scale around in about 4 years, haven't had my height measured in about 3 or 4 years as well

tfw no transgirl gf

t. chaser

>>7373790
Dress for your body type

Try on clothes until you figure out what looks good.

>tfw androphilic trans but too ugly to be a proper girl
>mfw blanchard lied to me

t. closet tranny currently passing as a twink

>>7374800
tfw no chaser bf to break down and turn into my transgirl gf

>>7374814
What ugliness have you got? It might not be as hopeless as you think.

>>7374814
>tfw pass as a girl but too tall and intimidating to be cute
>too big to be cute and too soft to be tough

>>7374834
>square chin but not lantern jaw proportions
>large roman nose
>deep set eyes
>forehead isn't neanderthal but noticeably male
>thin lips

Literally the only nice thing about my face is that I have a hairline that isn't receding and my adam's apple is small. I look undeniably male. Maybe even a bit cute or foreveryoung by male standards, but not female.

I'm never gonna be one of these weak chin, overweight "never passers" that would pass minus the beard and 50 lbs. You can fix being a slob, you can't fix bad bones.

How do you all manage to keep hanging on? I've been in a really depressive patch lately that makes me want to repress the idea of transitioning once again, even though I already told my parents that I think I'm trans.

I'm really afraid. Every trans person I've ran into irl or online is either a fetishist, shw, hon, or a combination of one of those three. I don't want to be associated with a community like that. Furthermore, I think I mainly like girls, making me even more of a pariah even among other legbutts.

What do I do? I hate myself so much but I don't feel like if doing things will keep me from hating myself.

>>7374871
FFS an option?

>>7374853
Tall and intimidating can be cute.

>>7374880
You hate others because you hate yourself.
Learn to like yourself even if you don't like certain features.

>>7374890
Pretty poor and uninsured. Illustrator and freelance 3d artist by trade, but not great enough to make loads of money. Too stupid to do anything else besides whore myself, which I'm not ready for just yet.

>>7374911
I'm in a similar situation. Some simple ffs would do wonders for me, but I can barely afford hrt right now. Have to wait a few years to get a decent enough job.
Thought about whoring myself, but I wonder if I'm even good looking enough.

>>7374893
Tall as in >6'
I think tall people are automatically intimidating. I'm super shy and quiet though.

>>7374970
>tfw you've heard "Damn that's a scary woman" after walking past people more than once.

>>7374800
What country/state?

>>7375007
aww....that would kill...

>>7375016
USA, DC

>>7375079
I'm still not really sure how I feel about it.

>>7375088
Aw, I'm in Maine

>>7375111
that's not even far by my standards

but we can be internet friends too

>>7374938
Sorry about your situation famiglia. I hope you get into a better job soon. I'm guessing you're still university age? Get it taken care of before it gets too late.

Trust me, I'm almost 30 and I kick myself every day for putting it off for so long. Gay death is just around the corner and I doubt transitioning is going to be any better.

>>7375216
At least there's hope ffs can make you look younger right? I'm actually in my late 20s. So I'm hoping my 30s will be far better.
Don't lose hope~

>>7375118
lmao what are your standards that 700 miles isn't far

>>7375506
I've driven 1000 miles in a day before

>>7375508
How? I drove 300 miles once and felt like I was going to die.

Sigh...
Will never have a vagina.

>>7370428
got booked for the 28th. still nervous as fuark. tfw your surgeon wants to do the whole srs but he only ever done 10-20 total in his career... just take the balls please, that is all

>>7376893
Don't be too scared anon, you're finally getting the T producing centers removed for good. I hope to have mine done in 2017 sometime after saving up a fair bit

>>7376905
i mean, if aca doesnt get repealed, then insurance will still cover it. just depends on what happens next year. idk, so i kind of rushed to get all my ducks in a row to do this before hand. i would've went the full surgery but havent been smoke free long enough.

that's what make me nervous. i'm a smoker. tobacco and weed. been smoking off and on for the past year. for example: prior to nov 29th, had two weeks no smoking, then between the 29th and the 8th smoked three packs of cigarettes and a quarter of bud.... i kind of flipped my shit when the insurance denied the claim on the 29th and came back telling me to get a second letter from a mental health professional. had been seeing an lmft for a few months and she got me in to see a lcsw for an evaluation / second letter. so now everything is submitted but i am still on edge because i havent gotten the authorization from the insurance yet, but i have everything submitted and the doctor's office scheduled me. it seems like everything will be fine and go through, but it makes me nervous still. like having to do blood work before the surgery, are they going to check contine levels? i dont know. just afraid of getting turned away and missing out at this point. just tossed about a quarter this morning so i wouldnt have it around to tempt me... just throwin away dat money

>>7375577
You've got to have something on your mind. Some people like long flights; some don't.

>>7375577
If you're less excitable, the long drives are less exhausting. If you keep up hyper-focus for 6+ hours, of course you're going to be exhausted. The trick is to pay less attention.

>>7374659
>tfw trying to gain 10 lbs
>gain 3 lbs
>stress, anxiety, money troubles start washing over you
>lose 6 lbs
I thought estrogen was supposed to help you gain weight

>>7375449
I've done pretty well in the youth department. I'm 27 but people frequently confuse me for a freshman college student. So there's that at least.

>Don't lose hope~
I'll try, anon

>>7376978
>I thought estrogen was supposed to help you gain weight
Genetics, fampai. There are skeleton mode ciswomen too. Some people will suddenly find themselves struggling to lose weight, others will gain a moderate amount, others will be as skinny as they always were. The big difference, I think, is getting your testosterone low enough. Even the skinniest of tomcats will turn into a lard if you castrate them. Estrogen is more about where the fat goes than how much you gain.

>>7376978
Yeah I dunno. Maybe I just can't bring myself to eat that much food. I think I'll just stick with how I am now. I'm terrified of becoming an obese diabetic like my mom anyway. I kind of like being willowy.

>>7377597
I dunno anon my T levels sit at 10 (on 100mg Spiro 6mg Estradiol)

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>>7377654

>>7377597
>The big difference, I think, is getting your testosterone low enough. Even the skinniest of tomcats will turn into a lard if you castrate them
lol sure, my T is at 2 and I'm taking estrogen, progesterone and anti-anxiety pills that are all supposed to make me gain weight and I've only managed to put on ~5 pounds so far. the struggle is real

>>7377685
Then you're not eating enough. I know its hard, but eat more or you'll never get your femgainz.

>>7377724
you don't think I'm already eating a lot and counting my calories? Because I am.

>>7377735
All ectomorphs think they eat more than they actually do. I have the same problem. The answer is always more food than you think you're going to need.

>>7373944
Hey thanks for replying didn't have to first anon here
I really don't know where I could order meds I am in a catholic school so the few friends I have definitely won't receive them for me they are nice but they fit in the school and definitely aren't close enought not to ask anything
Good part is catholic parents implies money that's not an issue

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>>7351156
let's all go camping!

>>7378880
i hate bugs and wood smoke smell and winter camping looks like crap

>>7378941
winter camping is okay if you have a warm and dry place you can always go to if you get too cold

otherwise its shit yeah

>>7378873
Maybe you could get a PO box? I'm pretty sure there's no age restriction on that, so long as you can provide the documents to prove your identity (and the money of course).

>>7373790
I have a two step process for this. First, look up your body type on pintrest. Second, wade through literally hundreds of photos and check out the related pins on all the photos you like. That's going to give you your best shot of not only finding a style you like, but finding a greater variety of that style as well. Something's gonna stick eventually.

>>7379054
This does not seem to exist in France but maybe something similar is possible wouldn't surprise me at least this is a new gleam of hope thank you

>>7379559
Do UPS stores exist in France? They offer the same service and can accept your mail

>>7379609
They do ! Thank you so much !

>>7378880
If by camping you mean a well heated cabin with a kitchen, full bathroom, electricity, a comfy bed, a tv, and wifi then yeah let's do it.

>>7378880
Let's do this ! Camping can be easy and fun and you all are the nicest people I know I definitely do want to spend a night talking about litterally everything I can talk about and then sleep a bit and eat around a fire in the morning in a forrest

>>7376978
it doesn't
it's just a meme that fatasses use to excuse their lack of self-control

Suggestions for dresses?

>>7383020
Don't.

I'm not even going to try, I think it'll just emphasize my shoulders and ribcage more.

There's like this weird rule for transwomen when it comes to normies. The more feminine some piece of clothing is, the more you're not allowed to have it and the more scrutinized you'll be wearing it in public.

>>7383040
I'm not that anon, but I have one that I don't really wear at all but in the privacy of my room with a locked door every 5 months or so.

Let me tell you, the feeling of spinning and having the lower portion flare out into a full circle made me incredibly giddy. It was pretty amazing desu. Not arousing I mean but I just felt very happy and laughing.

I know what you are saying though, I won't ever look at myself in the mirror with that thing on or I'd probably hang myself then and there.

>>7383171
Fuck now I'm tearing up.

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>>7383171
>>7383040
>mfw the only thing I've worn in public in girlmode was a really simple black dress with a military style jacket

>>7377735
eat at least 1k over what you should be
do you have increased body temperature in the evening especially after you have eaten?
check your thyroid levels if you suspect insane metabolism and whatever digestion problems or inflammation you might have

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>>7383501
I still have that same outfit lmao

I have to go to the symphony tonight, and I know a bunch of the people there... what should I wear?

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Hi /tgg/

How do I find chasers / boyfriends who will pay for my hormones?
I'm very poor and can't afford them.

>>7384338
/r9k/

>>7383501
Don't feel bad...I haven't done much better.

>velvet pants/leather pants/stylish black pants/long ambiguous goth skirt
>Always cover up chest with a scarf/shawl/pashmina unless wearing my comfy loose black turtlneck out of laziness

I have so much cute stuff I bought, so many tops and skirts and other stuff but I'm too terrified to wear it in public because I don't want to be a creepy looking hon...

Ironically I wore skirts more when I was repressing :\

>>7387008
>>7383501
>>7383040
>>7383171
fuck life

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>>7387018
Cheer up anon, it's not all bad.

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Now that my hair is long I've been noticing just how much of it comes out during a shower, like how much of it I have tangled in my fingers after shampooing.

This is normal right? I just never noticed it when it was short because it was too small to pay attention to, right? I'M NOT LOSING MY HAIR RIGHT?

>>7387374
its normal, my hair comes out like crazy
i don't even know how i have any left on my head

>>7387374
I've lost a lot of sleep over this. My hair comes to almost my bellybutton, and It's not easy to sleep on anymore. Thinking of cutting it but no idea what style I want. Plus I want something feminine and to paint my nails but my dad loves televangelists and calls women a man's 'help-mate' and that they should know their place. I have to live with just him. I might be able to slip in hrt as an imbalance but I know he will have serious issues with me presenting more femme.

>>7387374
A normal person loses like 100 hairs a day.

I have no idea how there can be hair left, at the end of the year though.

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>Start to get ready for the day
>Think about putting on that cute outfit and trying a little harder
>Think it might be alright
>What you actually feel it's like

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Had a day of decent passing, I needed this so bad.

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I'm toying with the idea of eventurelly getting GRS in the UK because I don't trust Thai doctors but some results look alright and others look like someone took an axe to their crotch....

Mia Fever had a good result imo.

But I have loads of bad result pictures too, I have an obsession I guess.

>>7392373
I wonder where the guys who played Mario and lugi are now?

Things that make you go hmmmmm

>>7392493
Surely in a better place.

>captcha keeps asking me to identify sushi

1. How did you know?
2. oh bby

>>7387117
yeah but there's enough bad to warrant despair

how do you guys handle the loneliness? once I allow it to consume me and I'm overcome with depression I reach a point where I just want to give up, even though I'm aware this is my only real path to happiness & will die if I try to go back to the closet

>>7392954
Embrace the gift of isolation. Other people are shit anyway.

>>7392921
Yeah so?

>>7392954
>guys
Good one anon.

Anyway

It's just how it is anon. I have friends and loved ones and I still struggle with loneliness and alienation. Hang in there. Turn it into a spiteful drive to be happy and screw everyone who tries to stop you.

Also what other anon said, a little isolation is good.

>That comfy feeling having dinner and taking your E

So calm.

>Good one anon.
>>7393106
sorry I do that when I try to not say y'all. I'm extra stupid when I'm being emotional like tonight anyway.

>>7393153
Oh it's okay I was just teasing you a little, sorry.

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>>7392921

>>7393036
i still want to find someone who isn't shit to share things with
the lonliness hurts

>>7393722
>feels

I know those

I was always alone before coming out but now I wonder all the time if I couldn't find someone by pretending I'm not trans, which is fucked

>>7393749
but then the person you find wont be someone you can fully share everything with and be perfectly comfortable with
never can fully be yourself around them if you're hiding things
thats worse than having no one in my opinion

>>7393722
aww, but you're never really alone, you can share things with us anon

>>7393777
but i can't hold you, i can't laugh with you or interact with you in any way other than through my keyboard
im still alone, im still sitting in my room in the dark like i have been for years
you understand

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>>7386218
I've been trap posting on r9k for a few months tho

>>7393807
try craigs list then

>>7393786
yes anon, I understand *sniffles

new thread >>7393910