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The Great Divide by Some Retarded Faggot

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Ready to learn about the Gender Binary, /lgbt/?
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>>7339884
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>>7339885
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>>7339887
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>>7339890
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WHy we need to drop the T.
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>>7339893
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>>7339899
Fin.
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if you have a dick, you're a man. if you've got a pussy, you're a female. genderfluids go diaf.
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There's an arugment to be made for gender nonbinary.
But not whatever this faggot is saying.
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>>7339898
Not really, just because one t is being a faggot doesn't mean all t are

What's with this website and sweeping generalisations
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>>7339898
As a tranny, I agree. My gender dysphoria is a mental disorder that tortures me, not an identity I am proud of. I need help, not acceptance.

I hate the attempt to demedicalize bring trans because some retards who don't have dysphoria don't want to be lumped in with people who actually have dysphoria but for some reason still want to be lumped in with us.
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>>7339893
> everyone one the planet is wrong but me
This is why Trump won
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>>7340082
>Imagine if we did this one retarded thing that makes absolutely zero and has no logical backing behind it at all
>It's exactly the same as how we do this one pretty simply thing that is based on logical backing found throughout the entire animal kingdom.
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>>7339890
>little black girl grows up to be a tough black lade
>poor bald dude becomes a more grown up and urban looking poor bald dude
>fat asian lady becomes fat asian dyke

>cripple boy dies and it's a completely different cripple girl in the other panel

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>7340116
It's fucking simple too, and nothing about it invalidates being trans.I'm trans for fucks sake.

GENDERS:
>Male
>Female

Done easy, not what about trannies?

MTF TRANSEXUAL:
>A male born with gender identity disorder that causes severe and constant dysphoria over the gender they were born with.
>Can be lessened for people if they are able to undergo hormone replacement therapy and get any necessary surgies. SOCIALLY (socially is a very key word) transitioning has shown to have a very high rate of success in reducing dysphoria in people with gender identity disorder.

FTM TRANSEXUAL:
>A female born with gender identity disorder that causes severe and constant dysphoria over the gender they were born with.
>Can be lessened for people if they are able to undergo hormone replacement therapy and get any necessary surgies. SOCIALLY (socially is a very key word) transitioning has shown to have a very high rate of success in reducing dysphoria in people with gender identity disorder.

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Wow, so complicated. Biologically you'll never switch genders, but that really doesn't matter does it. You doctor needs to know obviously, but socially people don't go out shaking their dicks and vags at everyone they meet. If you can transition and pass to the point that society see's you and treats you as the female/male you are mentally, great job.

GENDER FLUID:
>Faggy attention whores who want to wear dresses and have beards and don't suffer from any form of dysphoria. It's not a disorder, it's not a gender, it's not a biological identity. It's a personality type that sane people find obnoxious.
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>>7339885

apples, strawberries, cherries, raspberries
they are all red

green apples, lettuce, cabbage are all green

I too can make a retarded analogy
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>>7339884
>>7339885
>>7339887
>>7339890
>>7339893
>>7339899
>>7339902
Why the illustrator never should double as script writer
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>>7339884
What's the purpose of this post OP? Are butthurt neither the right nor the left want to give you a voice as a conservative faggot?
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>>7340192
Not OP, but while very left-wing, as far as faggotry goes I'm pretty conservative. The webcomic is bullshit and promotes the harmful view that society owes us respect. It's the contrary. Respect is never owed, it's earned.
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>>7340192
OP here, just giggling at a dumb comic on a Anime & Japanese culture imageboard my dude.
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>>7339885
> suppose we classified animals into groups and never let them intermix
> that would be silly
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO FAGGOT. A BADGER IS CLASSIFIED AS A BADGER. IT WILL NEVER BE A FLAMINGO.
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>>7339893
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>>7340151
I think it's partly because a lot of younger people, trans or not, college aged and younger, are so wrapped up in trying to rid themselves of the perceived gender binary, that they become obsessed with it. "That's a suit! It's masculine! That's a dress! It's feminine!" And so they mix and match and attach gender to literally everything, pick and choose and apply said mix to themselves to appear as unique and special.

Instead of, you know, saying, "Hey, I'm a girl but damn if I don't like suits. I'm still a girl but I just love me some suits." Instead we get, "I'm a humyn and am neither male nor female and demand you refer to me as Axelrod Avery Ashton and my pronouns are xey/xir/C'thulhu."
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>>7340298
>"Hey, I'm a girl but damn if I don't like suits. I'm still a girl but I just love me some suits."
That just makes you a handsome husband anyways.
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>>7340229
This is the same artist as the one in your pic by the way.
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>>7340298
There's also the a thing that is the major problem with modern feminism in general : they usually believe that everyone owes them respect just because they exist.

That's not how it works. If you're being obnoxious, irritable and all-around a self-centred prick, then it's no wonder people will look down upon you, and it won't be because you're trans.

Respect is earned, not given.
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>>7340340
Respect not earned isn't respect. They don't fucking understand that. They think that treating others with respect is the same as giving respect and it's simply not.
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>>7339885

Well that hit peak retardation quickly.
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>>7339890

Ah, typical "I used to be an asshole and now I'm overcompensating and projecting my dickery onto the rest of the world" male feminist.
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>>7339899
>using the images of people who fucking died
>"so silly!"
Wow.
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It all boils down to not wanting to be stereotyped or have people make various assumptions about your personality based on your gender.
Pretty understandable and reasonable.

Confusing the shit out of people by deciding that your feelings and sense of style is a gender does not help achieving that.
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>>7340090
Actually Trump won because Russia threatened to go batshit crazy if Hilldog won.

You don't seriously think the people or the votes had anything to do with it, do you?
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>>7340731
> the American people were intimidated by Russia
Wow
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>>7339893
>the black guy is shown having a white guy inflict violence upon him
>not the other way around
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really makes you (((think)))...
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>>7340848
A cop too lmao
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>>7339885
>I have absolutely no understanding of what biological science is.

Stopped reading there.

Why do trannies ignore biology?
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>>7341116
>Why do trannies ignore biology?
Please don't lump us in with self proclaimed "gender fluid", they are not actually trans.
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how do you resolve a
genderqueer identity with a female identity when it
seems like acknowledging the restraints of female
identity and then bursting them doesn’t make you
no longer female, just empowered, and therefore is
genderqueer a privileged identity that’s mostly
available to female-assigned people with punk rock
haircuts, in college?
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>>7340827
Woah, someone SERIOUSLY thought this was the reason, and not that people HATE sjws?
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Of nonbinaries are so open minded, why do they call actual transpeople 'truscum'?
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>>7341158
Trump won because Hillary is unlikable. No one cared that she was cloaked head to toe in scandals, no one cared about policy. Trump made it a contest of personality, Clinton obliged and played his game; and she lost. The DNC fielded the only candidate that could lose to the man.
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>>7339884
>>7339885
wtf i hate gender binary now
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>>7339887
>We decide sex through arbitrary reasons such as sexual anatomy and reproduction organs.
>We do this all the time, for example axes can kill but a book is just paper.
What did xe mean by this?
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>>7341264

when will this meme die.

people voted for trump because of his stance on immigration.
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>>7339902
>It doesn't work for me so it clearly doesn't work for the other 8 billion human beings duh

the sad part is that he isn't a teenager. Teenagers usually have this crazy idea that they are phillosophers and that their stupid theories are actually applicable to the real world, but they usually grow out of it.

Here it looks like he fell into it during his adult age
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>>7341183
Trannies are waging war against non-binaries.
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>>7339885
>that pre-differentiated fetus
>female
I see what the author did there.
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>>7341292
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>>7341306
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>>7341298
>>7341306
Xhe is such a beautiful humyn being

Seriously if he shaved he'd at least look like a decent 40 year old woman tbqh.
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>>7341333
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>>7341306
>>7341298

Is it wrong that I find him quite attractive, style and all?

I seem to have a think for the crazy, asshole idiots.
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look at all these real people
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>>7341361
>those crippled characters

I know he's trying to be inclusive but really I think it just goes all the way around and becomes offensive
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>>7341361
When can we banish this man to Saudi Arabia?
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Author recognizes a problem: Individuals of different genders are pressured into acting in particular ways, and this damages their psyche over time.

Author proposes wrong solution: Completely eradicate the meaning of the word gender, and the meaning of male and female. Allow people to identify as new and different genders without defining what it MEANS to be male or female.

A physical definition (genitalia) is simple, and ideal for this particular use case. If we were to redefine male and female in society to refer ONLY to one's parts, with no connotation about gender roles, or how any particular gender should behave, we would fix the problem. Instead the problem remains, and we now ALSO have a problem with communicating unambiguously.
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>>7341382
Right? Like, none of that shit is actually common. How often do you see people with major burn scars looking like Two Face.
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>>7341340
Same. He's surprisingly pretty despite still having a beard.
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>>7341361
Never has one man virtue signaled so hard
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>>7341333
> a male character wearing skimpy clothing?
> What a ridiculous concept!
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>>7341361

he really is writing porn for himself to masturbate (ideologically) to :(

obviously nobody has a problem with a beautiful thin woman wearing high heels in a wheelchair, although she will probably trigger a few humorous comments from others (but not hateful ones)

and haha not a word wasted on the difference between pointless, self-inflicted disability (such as obesity) and accidental disability (such as leg loss or severe burns in accidental fire)... nor for that matter the distinction between disability produced via ignorance and weakness (again, obesity) and disability produced via mental trauma or illness (scars from cutting or deliberate self-burning)
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>>7339885
This is a terrible example, there are many breeds of dogs and cats like there's many different kinds of humans. But humans are still human, doesn't matter what gender you are you're still human.

This is kinda reaching into Otherkin territory of "I'm not a human! I'm a dragon stuck in a human body!"
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This freak needs to fuck off and die
There are only two genders
You're making us actual trans people look bad
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>>7340852
As far as everything in the comic goes it's not the worst, it's even one of the good parts.
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>>7340365
>They think that treating others with respect is the same as giving respect and it's simply not.
What's the difference between the two? They're just different phrasings.
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>>7340827
Russia stated that they would declare war on the US if Hillary won. People should have voted for Hillary just to show they wouldn't let themselves be pushed around by threats from a corrupt foreign dictatorship.
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>>7342688
>Russia stated that they would declare war on the US if Hillary won
The more I read on this "election" the more absurd it becomes. Last month it was about how Hillary wanted to declare war on Russia.
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>>7339902
Can you just imagine the human being who wrote that last slide?

There you have Justin Hubbell, at his desk - in the reflection of his window are the various high school medals he won, as a teenager - and along the view, between clouds and behind the apartment towers, in the tallest of which lives his crush of eight years (tomorrow, will he tell her?), a plane glides. He scratches his beard-transplant.

'This bio has to give the essence of who I am; it has to portray my best self - and portray it in a way that others will respect... I've got it.'

He types his own name, 'Justin Hubbell,' then continuing in the third person, 'Is a Cartoonist and Super Nerd,' and leans into his chair, elbows raised.

'Magnificent.'
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>>7341340
>Is it wrong that I find him quite attractive, style and all?

Yes.

>I seem to have a think for the crazy, asshole idiots

Typical self destructive faggot.
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>>7341298
As a somewhat conservative lesbo, is this guy liberalism's final form?
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>>7339884

Hey, my name is Justin too.
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>>7343000
Second to last form
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>>7339885
>first actual page
>already hits maximum retard
Dis gon b gud.
It's like I'm watching some expert troll at work.
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>>7341298
>>7341306
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>>7343025
Explain?
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Why do people treat "gender" like the most important issue?
Especially when really they're mixing many different components of identity with some murky concept of a fundamental type of person.
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>>7343061
His current form will bring in Mudslimes en masse into the country. The final form is a corpse after the Mudslimes execute him for faggotry.
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>>7343071
They have incredibly low self-esteem because liberalism taught them to value their identity above all else... but then turned them into petty people with insubstantial identities.

They don't know who they are, and have no coping skills thanks to being coddled their entire lives.
They're happy to join up with any autistic "movement" (like BLM) because they're desperately seeking to add meaning to their empty lives.
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>>7341127
yes they are, as many MANY other trans people say, you are the gender you feel, i.e they are trans of a different kind
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>>7345512
>One has a disorder that causes the brain to think it's a gender it wasn't born with
>The other are wishy washy faggots who just FEEL like they're girls some days but also men others
No.
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binaries are already proven to not work, bringing academic concepts to common people isnt an easy job, sjws are making it harder.

its easier to try to problematize occidental/oriental than gender
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what the actual fuck.
i wrote my masters thesis (philosophy major) and introduced a cultural concept called the great divide
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>>7339902
>>7339899
>>7339893
>>7339890
>>7339887
>>7339885
What? Am I supposed to want to suck dicks after reading this? If people aren't attracted to your special gender, there's probably a reason for it. No one will treat you differently because you're a queer, as long as you don't shove shit down people's throats. I honestly don't get what this 'LGBT' movement is trying to get at... Turn people gay? It's already legal
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>>7339890
Just because you were a shitbag kid doesn't mean we are all rude...
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>>7346641
>this is what cishets actually believe
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This is the kind of shit that ensures I vote for the conservative candidate every time.

If this becomes mainstream I'm moving to Canada. Transgendered people are fine and I'll accept them because I know they can't help this condition but if anyone believes that sex and gender are two different things they are braindead.

I think most people who say there are more than two genders and that trans people are really female or male because they identify that way must really be doing it because they want to make transgender people feel better, not because it makes any sense.

If trans people really believed they were the gender they want to be, they wouldn't experience dysphoria, because after all, they say that having a vagina doesn't make them any less of a man.
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>>7347005
Wow I meant to write Poland, not Canada.

I guess all the "I'm moving to Canada" rhetoric has really dug into my brain.
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>>7346591
>philosophy major

How's your career as a burger flipper going?
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i hate justin hubbel and his fucking disgusting beard
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>>7341361
This one's cool,you hateful bitches.
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>>7339899
>>7339902

the issue with this is its taking 'expression' and calling it gender.

your gender is your genitals. thats what everyones uppity about. if you want to cross and looks like something inbetween the stereotypes, some people are mad yes, and that sucks.

but the big issue here is the fucking genitals.

penis means male/boy
vagina means female/girl

you can dissect that and say 'BUT GENDER WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE ABOUT EXPRESSION' but you never explain that, you are trying to argue colloquial use at this point.

call yourself whatever you want. but people dont wnat to know what your expression is. they just need to know what genitals you have.
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Dear jesus,
'll be a good honest man, but please,
resurrect Hitler, let him go to power and have him gas all kikes and the degenerate side of LGBT.
Amen.
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>>7347005
>I think most people who say there are more than two genders and that trans people are really female or male because they identify that way must really be doing it because they want to make transgender people feel better, not because it makes any sense.

lolno
they do it because they don't have gender dysphoria but they want to be special anyways.

It's what you get when you raise people giving them trophies just for participating. They start to believe they are special, and when they see someone less ordinary than them they just can't handle it (because everyone should win!) and come out with all of this bullcrap so the world can see how unique they are.

In fact, some of them even get really pissy when actual trans people tell them to fuck off, and they called them "truscum" because they actually think they are true transexuals as well.

It's just despicable how these characters take advantage of trans people condition just to convince themselves they are unique too. There's nothing wrong with expressing yourself, but don't come up with bullshit like "I feel male today, but I felt female yesterday" because there are literally no feelings that are inherently male or female, and even if there were then no one would experience only those feelings even if they were 100% cis, because that just doesn't happen.
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So /lgbt/ what is the final solution?

A) If you're born with a penis, you're male, it's short hair and trousers for you, female-designated stuff is forbidden for you forever. If you're born with a vagina, you're female, it's long hair and dresses, male-designated things are forbidden for you forever. Dissenters are put to death, or tortured relentlessly until they surrender or commit suicide.

B) Same as above except dissenters can swap sides once. If and only if a person has their genitals altered via surgery, and does their absolute best to adhere in all ways to the rules of that side, that person can for all intents and purposes be considered the other sex, including pronouns.

C) If you're born with a penis, you're classified as and referred to as male forever. If you're born with a vagina, you're classified as and referred to as female forever. Other than that, both sides are free to dress, groom themselves, and alter their bodies however they like.

D) Do whatever you want. Mix and match, or swap around. People should ask what your pronouns are every morning. Genitals, past or present, don't matter.

Most of society prefers A, which is how things are for the most part across the world. Many countries have tried B, which was how transgenderism was handled until very recently. C is what the radfems claim to want, however it would be the most difficult to implement. D is what SJW want, and seems to get the most attention and publicity for some reason.
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>>7349747
>they just need to know what genitals you have.
lolwut
If I see a strange woman on the street, I'll assume she's a woman based on her outward appearance/voice/name, I'm not going to interrogate her about her junk before calling her a she, that's no ones business unless you're gonna fuck.
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>>7350395
I'd personally go with D), but instead of asking someone their pronouns every day, just go with the very convenient non-gendered pronouns in English already.

My fundamental reasons for this are that it
1. Abstracts the personal and allows for more judgement of a person's productive ability, which increases the efficiency of the market, and
2. It heads off any potential problems that might come about with truly sapient AI or available body modification in the future.

It may be considered ridiculous to some, but then again, so was non-religiosity at most points in history. Non-Gender-Essentialism will probably go the same way is my guess.
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>>7350395
Some mix of C and D. Allow freedom of expression as long as it doesn't directly cause harm to anyone, and also try to erode gender as a fundamental aspect of culture/identity. Physical and brain sex will still be a thing, but we won't really view being a man or woman as something any more important than one's hair color or handedness.
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>>7350395
somewhere between b and d is the only reasonable way to handle transsexualism
each person has a maximum of one (1) gender (some people have zero genders, but they're so rare as to be statistically insignificant), and for 99.8% of the population this is their natal sex, but the experiences of the 0.2% must not be discounted
gender roles are significant due to the biological aspect of them but they are not the sole aspect of gender and transitioning should not be seen as a treatment for gender nonconformity, only for sex dysphoria
also, genital surgery is for the most part the least important aspect of treating transsexualism
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>>7339884
I would be okay with B, personally for myself, but I'm so gay that I probably wouldn't adhere strictly to feminine gender roles. I'd probably be more like a normal grungy cis girl

D is what I'd prefer in a perfect world, for the sake of my friends who are genderqueer
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>>7339885
this is so fucking retarded i dont even
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>>7348325
This.
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