AMA Reparative Therapy

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What happened

>>7267041
My parents suggested I go. So went unwillingly at first but found the therapist there to be quite nice and decided to stay.

>>7267017
So do you still get boners from guys or what was the result?

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>>7267085
I get boners a whole lot less than before. To say that you lose all six Kinsey points in the therapy would be naive, to say that you at least don't shed a few is untrue.
I'd say I'm a solid 2.5 right now and I'm happy being one.

>>7267017
Alright first a few things out of the way.
Reparative Therapy is not at all what you hear it is . They don't shock you. They don't shame you. Here's what the theory stands on: "The reason to why you're gay is because of lack of emotional connection with the father and an intrusive and emotionally dependent mother. This in turn makes a reparative drive to connect with the [father] male by sexual contact." I can certainly relate to this and I know that most of you too, had a father that was missing during most of my childhood and a mother that was emotionally clingy.

>>7267118
Do you get boners from women?

>>7267160
Yeah my dad was pretty distant and my mom pretty clingy but I remain unconvinced that this is why men give me erections.

>>7267173
Yes. Women give me erections.
>>7267173
I too thought the same I started to draw the dots that that is the story for most gay men and that can't really be a coincidence. Anyways, the I also found out that the more I got over my troubled past the more confident of myself I became and the less I was preoccupied with same sex attraction.

>>7267204
Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience OP. I've known I was a 3 on the scale for a very long time, since I was 14 y/o or so probably (I'm 24 now)|, but I only recently started to wonder WHY I am a 3. I still don't believe it's my upbringing, but I also doubt it is genetic. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the gay agenda in the media or the xenoestrogens in the tap water.

>>7267240
Do you at least think your upbringing might have something to do with it?

>>7267269
No, not at all. Lots of gay and bi dudes had very different upbringings.

>>7267278
I guess you're right. However I think it's at least interesting how many gay guys had a distant father in comparison to their straight counterparts; Hey, I'm not saying that this is the only cause as to why people are gay, but at least one of the factors.

>>7267298
I guess posting this on a night on a Sunday didn't create as many replies as I thought. Gonna go to bed now but if I see any replies tomorrow I'll answer them or repost this thread.

>>7267160
I can kind of relate but not entirely. My dad wasn't absent or disinterested in me or anything we just didn't connect because I had nothing in common. We had no way to share in activities because I didn't enjoy typical masculine activities or I was just simply a computer nerd which is just as distancing.

>>7267298
> in comparison to their straight counterparts
We don't have that data. Straight guys might have issues with distant fathers just as often. A lot of my straight friends grew up without a father or or were on bad terms with him.
At least in my generation shitty(or non-existent) father figures are pretty common partly due to economic depression in my country during the 80s and 90s. A lot of families ended up divorced or with the husband becoming a broken drunkard.

>>7267160
>le no father maymay

Lots of gays with good fathers around

Lots of children raised by single-moms that are plenty heterosexual

There's no strong evidence to support the notion that it's a significant factor in the development of homosexuality. It also does fuck all to explain lesbians

>>7267927
Obviously lesbians just aren't real. Just like transmen. :^)

>>7267160
>>7267173
>>7267204
Here you go:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224490802398357

>Moreover, some background characteristics are correlated with male sexual orientation. Growing up without a biological parent is positively associated with homosexuality. The coefficient on living without either biological parent is positive and significant in three regressions. In addition, when the dependent variable is ‘‘not 100% heterosexual’’ or ‘‘neither 100% nor mostly heterosexual,’’ the coefficient on living with only
a biological father is positive and significant. For
instance, living with only a biological father raises the likelihood that a respondent reports that he is not 100% heterosexual by about 4.5 percentage points.

>>7267160
Can't really relate, I have had my dad through my whole life, so it probably wouldn't work for me, so that's... unfortunate.

Hey, at least you got better, kudos to you OP, wish you luck.

>>7269236
>implying there was something wrong on the first place

honestly I don't see a difference between same sex relationships vs. heterosexual ones.
relationships are about something different, aren't they ?

>>7269269
Yes there is a major difference aside from all the "muh homophobia" being in a straight relationship is a lot better in my opinion that being in a gay one. You can have children biologically, you don't have to explain yourself to everyone you meet. Even the sex is objectively more comfortable.

Bumpy bump

>>7269476
I didn't have to explain it to anyone yet - maybe my area is liberal enough.
Since I'm not interested in having kids and a woman can't pound my ass - what benefits would exchanging my bf with a girl provide me ?

>>7269747
I thought the same thing but, after giving it more thought in the last years it's come to my attention that I didn't chose not to have children but instead got used to the fact that I never would. I still want to have children and have a "normal" family (by normal I mean not unusual). My area is liberal enough as well but still. And anal is still awkward no matter how much lube you use imo.

Exchanging your bf for a gf would provide you with nothing if you don't love your gf. But tell me which gay person hasn't dreamt of waking up straight? I would love to be 100% straight and desu most gays would too.

>>7269819
>tell me which gay person hasn't dreamt of waking up straight?

*raises hand*

>>7269819
Honestly I've never thought about having kids - A few years ago I didn't even have any desire for either gender at all.
So I guess I'll have changed my mind on that in a few years.

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>>7267017
>willingly trying to get less homo
>willingly trying to get boners from women

>>7267017
I once visited some sect out of curiosity, pretended to drink their coolaid, gave them fake contacts and fucked off forever

>>7267160
thats like more than half families ever with ~50% divorce rates we have, still only minor % turn out to be gay.

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I jerked it to dick girls so hard and so faggishly that I lost the ability to get hard for girls without dicks, even my type, didn't care, needed dick or no boner.

It's when I got my cuck fetish, getting cucked like that was hot, the thought of getting skull fucked by women's dicks while being humiliated and insulted felt amazing. It was some of the most crazy fap sessions

After awhile the """gay""" wore off, and I went back to liking barf pits

I miss being gay as fuck honestly, had some good /d/ threads up then and like a job n shit

Ive been starting to get all loopy again lately though like then when I'm fapping so who knows might relapse or some shit if I try, er maybe I'm just high, gonna go burn more, lol

>>7270195
Alright I don't know how that has to do with anything but anyways.

The reparative therapy is based on the fact that traumatic memories especially of shame become the basis for homosexuality. We do a lot of EMDR on these memories and try to form male friendships to pacify the homosexual drive.

I know it sounded retarded to me too. But so far I've been much more confident and at peace with myself as before so I decided to stick with the therapy, I've been in therapy for about two and a half years now.

>>7270009
I guess I am pretty stupid.
>>7269953
>>7269959
really? not even a passing thought of what it would be like if you weren't gay?
>>7270054
That's hilarious what sect?
>thats like more than half families ever with ~50% divorce rates we have, still only minor % turn out to be gay.

Not having a father doesn't make you gay. It's the not having a father figure in your life that does. That's why later in life you try to reconnect with a male through sex. I know it sounds retarded but in my experience I've found it to be true.

>>7267160
I'm a twin. Both my brother and I grew up without a father figure or even a male role model while our mother was very clingy (and still is). My brother is straight but I'm gay. How would you explain this?

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>>7270492
He's also gay but in the closet.

Also even identical twins aren't genetically identical.

>>7270492
Perhaps this >>7270520
Also speaking of twins if one twin is gay and the other one is not. Isn't that proof that homosexuality isn't genetical? (I'm genuinely asking)

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>>7270393
>male friendships
>pacify

What?

>shame
Interesting

>>7270520
My brother has only dated and slept with women. He's def not full-blown gay like me. I can't say for sure if he has some if any homosexual tendencies.

>>7270566
We're not identical twins. In fact we're opposites in every sense of the word.

>>7267118
I don't think sexuality works this way, it's entirely too simplistic and I don't believe there's a scale of attraction based on gender that can in any way be quantifiably measured.

People are attracted to types, hence why you see "masc", "twink", "trap", "thicc" threads on here. Same behavior can be seen with heteros and bisexuals.

>>7270566
>Isn't that proof that homosexuality isn't genetical?
No. Not quite.
It would give reasonable assumption that it isn't 100% genetics.

>>7270606 If you want to know more about it. Read pic related. You'll disagree with it sure but it definitely is an interesting read. Basically shame/grief is the foundation for all homosexual behavior and sex is the way to mask it.

>>7270858
Pic related is the book on the top of the post. Reparative therapy of male homosexuality.

>>7270436
I'm your typical daydreamer. My interest in persons was and is usually limited to "yeah, he/she looks kinda nice.. anyway, where was I ?", so it really struck me to fall for someone - it was my apprentice at that time.
It took quite a time to realize that I've developed feelings for someone, and even more for a boy.

As for the other factors you mentioned: missing father: kinda, clingy mother : definitely not.

>>7270858
>foundation

so..i think about sucking girl dick because of some gay event, naruhodo senpai

>>7267160
>The reason to why you're gay is because of lack of emotional connection with the father and an intrusive and emotionally dependent mother

This is some Freudian-grade bullshit

Let me guess:
They also thought you were touched by Uncle Fester

>>7270858
>Basically shame/grief is the foundation for all homosexual behavior
Sounds like they started with the hypothesis that homosexual behavior was a mental illness and then worked backwards playing on the insecurities of people (homosexuals included) to make them see homosexual urges as a symptom of a disease - and of course, they have the cure.

tl;dr this is bullshit OP, quit that therapy before those quacks 'cure' you all the way and you live repressed forever. homolust is not a defect, only an abnormality.

>>7270393
what
emdr is only good for easing visually traumatic triggers in combination with other therapeutic practices and even then it's pretty shit. its also founded on bullshit
http://devilly.org/Publications/EMDR-review.pdf
http://ebmh.bmj.com/content/5/1/13.full

though i'm pretty sure if you tell people a form therapy works, it starts working on some of them regardless of anything else involved, as an extension of the placebo effect.

>>7270566
iirc gene expression can be altered by environmental factors

>>7270941
the book op cites is literally Freudian psychology
considering most of the treatment listed in the book is similar to treatment for people with OCD (alongside the assertation that gay people are inherently flawed), it's not surprising it would work on specific people, but it seems considerably more damaging than helpful because it requires someone build a facade of their ideal self and then constantly reinforce it by redirecting impulsive thoughts inwards.
from what i've read, he also makes a distinction between gay homosexual men and non-gay homosexual men, which implies intrusive thoughts and other similarities to OCD symptoms (if not outright OCD) in the latter category.
his discussion of group therapy practice is especially bizarre.

How can I trust a straight man to hold an objective, unbiased position on such a polarising subject like homosexuality?

I can't.
And neither should you.

I just started masturbating to straight porn instead. Your way seems complicated.

>>7271237
I guess it does.
>>7271005
How do you know that?
>>7270959
Really? When are these side effects going of the therapy going to take place. Everyone keeps telling me that this therapy is going to hurt me in the long run but it's been almost 3 years and my life has never been better. If there are people out there who can cut their genitals and shoot hormones like there is no tomorrow and still come out and say that they've never been happier then there is absolutely nothing wrong with conversion therapy.

The bullshit of family court and the truth of mgtow pushed my straight desires completely away.

>>7267160

Why do people think sexuality in the brain is this complicated? Its not genetic, but its not this freudian bullshit either.

I wouldn't even be surprised if it boiled down to one moment in your early childhood when your brain decided something was attractive and was leik "lets go with that" and locked it in forever.

>>7272910
Yea, because trying to date gays who see no problem with using grindr to treat the world like the last days of Rome is totally a better lifestyle option!

>>7272941
I'm actually in a loving and committed relationship for over 2 years now with a cutie trap. Wouldn't I've it up for anything. No none of that bullshit Bible and had scripture brainwashing for my evil temptations kept me from it.

>>7272956
>trap

Oh yea, totally "committed"

Those weird late nights home are perfectly normal mate.

>>7272941
>date gays who see no problem with using grindr to treat the world like the last days of Rome
I hate this but i do it anyways, i just want monogamy with a qt, or at least a fwb who i can cuddle and hang out with.

>>7273028
>i just want monogamy
You won't find it on grindr...

>>7273051
i know, i'm just saying i want monogamy.

>>7273080
And I'm just saying you're looking for love in all the wrong places. If you're in a city, go to the village and hang out in coffeeshoops full of queers or something

>>7272990
I can trust him. We have been through hell and back and we got out backs. Plus i can show my parents that I am straight with a loving girlfriend, then get fucked in the ass in bed. It's perfect. We have harmony and connect so well.

>>7273249
I'm glad that you got somebody you can love.

>>7267017
You're a dumbass. It doesn't work. Even the religious zealots have started admitting it. All you're going to do if permanently fuck up your sex life. Enjoy being a psychologically hung up perma virgin. God, how can people be this retarded?

Even if you could destroy homosexual impulses, the faulty assumption is that they will somehow be replaced by hetero ones. The most one could hope to achieve is asexuality and have no desire. You'll never be straight anon, just fucked up.

Did you even bother googling the name of that author? Jesus christ.

>>7267059
>My parents suggested I go.
How old are you? Are you old enough to be on this board or are you just financially dependent. If you're a basement dweller who relies on them, just lie and say you've changed like my friend did, he did that untuil he was financially secure and on his own.

If you're not dependant on them, then you really need to cut the umbilical cord for allowing them to still have so much influence on you.

Either way your problem isn't your being gay, your problem is your dependence on mommy and daddy, and listening to everything they say. Stupid fuck.

>>7267160
This does not apply to me at all and I have met several straight people with parents like that.

>>7270634
It doesn't look up promonent ex-gay proponents who claimed to have turned straight only to years later admit it was all a lie. Anon is only deceiving himself. He's probably fantasizing about men and just the second before clkimax, he pictures a girl, and rationalizes that as being straight. Google Alan Chambers. He was the head of exodus international, the biggest prponent of conversion therapy, and he claimed to be "cured" himself, only years to later shut down the organization, apologize and admit it was all a lie.

http://www.advocate.com/commentary/coming-out/2015/09/01/14-ex-ex-gays-paving-way-forward

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>>7267160
>"The reason to why you're gay is because of lack of emotional connection with the father and an intrusive and emotionally dependent mother. This in turn makes a reparative drive to connect with the [father] male by sexual contact."

That's based on Freud you moron. Most of his theories are bullshit and or have been debunked, and even he said that you can't change sexuality despite the same explanation for homosexuality he gave that you repeated verbatim. You're quoting a quack, but stopping right where he said you can't change it.

Dumb mother fucking asses.

Also know that likelihood of your one day comitting suicide is going to increase tenfold after going through this voodoo treatment. If you value your life and sanity, tell mommie dearest to fuck off.

>>7267118
The Kinsey scale is bull. Why don't you get your ADHD treated, because clearly you can't focus long enough to read real information out there. Thank God you'll never be straight because we don't need retards like you reproducing. And I hope you don't have the money to go the turkey baster method.

>>7267160
Ewww, you fantasize about your father sexually? Yoi poeople who believe this garbage and men who call their lovers daddy all sicken me. You're mentally derganged, not because you're gay but because you buy that shit and think of your dad sexually. Freak. Are you from West Virginia?

>>7267160
>"The reason to why you're gay is because of lack of emotional connection with the father and an intrusive and emotionally dependent mother. This in turn makes a reparative drive to connect with the [father] male by sexual contact."

Do you realize how many fucking gay people there would be if that was true? Half the population would be gay. Every black man in harlem would be gay. God damn you're retarded. Are you a high school drop out?

>>7273317
I'm not trying to be rude. I went through that "therapy" and all it did was give me contempt for authority, God and church. I've since repaired my relationship with God but not with church. I'd rather study in solitude anymore. That I was somehow in the wrong for having urges and attractions that they found uncomfortable. Too bad for them. Maybe it enabled you to express and discover your bisexuality, but all that anti porn and anti gay bs just pushed me further towards satanic atheism and my black metal collection grew larger. I still quite enjoy pagan black metal but satanism is corny to me now.

They tried to brainwash through shame and eternal damnation and the end of my bloodline but it only forced me to have a false self. I had tech confiscated and communications cut for my way of being and it only stoked the fire of Satan within me. Now I use my anger righteously and usurped Satan within my heart.

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>>7273562
>Jerk it to chicks with dicks!
>A lot!
>????
>Jim fucking profit

>>7273562
so basically you excanged one imaginary friend for another and condemn your old one?
Some loyal friend you are

>>7267017
> Is not religius
> Still sexually repressed
Wut

>>7269819
>>tell me which gay person hasn't dreamt of waking up straight?
>*raises hand*
(Here)

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>>7274655
>oh yeah, this anon knows the [IMAFIRINGMUHSPOILERS]((("""TRUTH""")))[/IMAFIRINGMUHSPOILERS]