Trans Help General #129

Reposting from last thread because it only got replies from two anons who said they felt the same way

>Wanted to know what being a girl is like since a young age
>Been AGP pretty much since I started puberty (but never really look at porn)
>Around 12-13 discover what transgender is, do a lot of reading on it, take that one stupid test a few times
>Start crossdressing and wearing makeup in secret occasionally around the same time
>Sometimes have fantasies of running away, transitioning
>Never felt like I totally fit in with other guys and never liked some stuff considered masculine (sports, working out, outdoors, aggressiveness)
>Like doing some things considered feminine (cooking, household cleaning, sometimes decorating)
>Sometimes see girls wishing I was one
>Usually depressed
>Go back and forth with thinking I'm a definite tranny and just have a weird AGP fetish
>Sometimes thinking of myself as a girl gives me a boner, sometimes it just feels nice or right
>Closely considered getting antiandrogens and starting to shave my legs, body hair and other small possibly unnoticeable things to make me feel more femine
But:
>Am generally comfortable as a guy and not sure if I want to sacrifice that
>Don't necessarily love getting more masculine with age but not freaking out over it
>Depression doesn't stem from gender dysphoria but other stuff
>Always looked up to male role models, all the people I want to emulate are male
>Never really acted feminine, or gravitated toward girls toys, like certain media geared toward males (mob films, South Park, etc.)
>Really can't tell if I would fit in with girls better than I would guys anyway

Pls help

>>7241745
I felt pretty similarly before I started transitioning. I ultimately decided to go through with it, and so far I'm happy with my choice.

I want to be a girl.

>>7241893
I want to kill myself because I want to be a girl.

>>7241893
same

>>7241893
>>7241930
>>7241942
Welp
Pretty much wraps things up, see ya next time
/thread

>>7241745
I mean you can just be a tomboy?

Just because you kinda-sorta want to be a girl doesn't mean you have to bend over, suck a chad's cock, and gab about Gabbie's bullshit on facebook surrounded by hot-pink bullshit.

I'm literally fitting the bill of all you described right now, and I don't want to mock you or make you feel bad but what you're concerned over is beyond entirely irrelevant.

Your Envy of women and Confusion of where you want to take your life are important, but linking that having male role models and not playing dolly dress-up as a kid.

What you really need to be concerned about is if you're ready to lose having a functioning penis -because even HRT will shrivel and sterilize you- after shelling out thousands of dollars and having ceaseless doctor's visits.
THAT'S the real stresser.

If you decide you want to go through with all of that, then calm your fears by thinking of yourself as a tomboy, like a farmer's daughter, or whatnot. Note, women will mock you, but vicious bitches being vicious bitches are probably why you surrounded yourself in "masculine" interests over gabby social butterfly bullshit.

If you decide you want to back out of it, and live your life as a normal man, but with a crossdressing kink in the bedroom, that's also perfectly fine. Take solace that you don't have to deal with this bullshit where you can no longer orgasm, ejaculation makes no sense, and it's literally as thin as water as you can physically feel your balls being what is essentially dead. And you've still got a year of hormones and getting approval from doctors before you can get the now useless fucking thing lopped off.

Sorry if I come off as abrasive and angry.
But if you're having doubts, listen to them, don't get tricked by the rose tinted goggles of transition timelines, those only show you the success stories, the failures end up as a fucking suicide statistic and ugly enough to need a closed casket.

So I've been mulling this question over in my mind for a while now and my friends haven't been very helpful at answering it.

I transitioned about 8 years ago, when I turned 20. I moved to a big city after something like 9 months on hormones and went FT then.

Here's my issue: I've never had a single person misgender me (to my knowledge). I live in Canada and I know it's a liberal area, so I wonder if maybe everyone's tiptoeing around it? I'm worried that everyone is talking about my ugly ass behind my back. My friends insist that it's because I look good, but I'm having trouble socializing with normals because of the paranoia.

TL;DR do I pass or are people too afraid to call me on my trannyness?

>>7242166
Post pics is all I can say:

One in the best lighting you can muster, one in the most unflattering lighting.

>>7242074
>What you really need to be concerned about is if you're ready to lose having a functioning penis

I probably should have mentioned this but my initial dysphoria manifested itself as genital dysphoria. I'm not big on having a dick and pretty much always wanted to have feminine anatomy down there. Really the only hang up I have with wanting to lose it is that I think I want kids of my own one day, though that might change.

When is an optimal time to get an orchiectomy? As in, how many months after starting hrt and how many years before SRS.

I was planning on waiting until stem cell tech got perfected before bothering with SRS.

>>7244832
>I was planning on waiting until stem cell tech got perfected before bothering with SRS.

See you in 15-20 years.

>>7244832
It can only make your SRS results worse due to atrophy of the scrotum and possible loss of tissue during surgery depending on the technique. Optimal time to have it without taking that into account is before HRT so you never need to take an antiandrogen, but it's very rare to actually do that.

>>7244912
I know it'll be a long time, and I'll probably commit sudoku before then, just thought I'd mention it.

>>7244959
thanks

>>7244832

Suporn says on his site that if orchiectomy is performed beforehand, it's better that SRS is then performed within 5 years. That's to prevent your scrotum from shrinking too much after it has no testicles to hold. The smaller the scrotum, the shorter the vagina is.

>>7245058
Can you get some kind of implant in there just to hold the size?

>>7245092
I believe you can

>>7245092

Now that you mention it, I do think I've heard of that being done for men who undergo castration for treatment of cancer. Who knows if the surgeon will also have to make the incision larger to do so and then give you more unusable scar tissue.

>>7245058
So, why does anyone have an orchiectomy done prior to SRS then?
It sounds like it's always better to have them done at the same time.

>>7245127

Impatience maybe or changing your mind about whether you want SRS after you have already had an orchiectomy. I'm not sure, really.

>>7245116
Scar tissue should heal though? Unless you mean that they have to remove more stuff.

How hard or expensive is it to get a therapist and go through the proper channels to get a prescription for meds? How potentially damaging could it be for me to self-med?

>>7245252
>How hard or expensive is it to get a therapist and go through the proper channels to get a prescription for meds?
Depends on where you are.

Self-medding MtF is low-risk; the drugs have few dangerous side effects presuming you're reasonably healthy. See >>7146587

I don't know the policies everywhere, but some places will be unhappy with you self-medding and deny you treatment or impede you, while others will fast-track you since you'd just keep self-medding anyway if they didn't and this way they can make it safer.

Hey, so what happens if you start taking hormones and then something happens in life that prevents you from continuing taking them so you're forced to stop for possibly an extended period of time?

>>7245344
You may experience the effects of a hormone imbalance but things should return to normal after a few weeks.

>>7245344
Normal gonadal function will more or less resume, and so hormone levels will return to more or less pre-transition levels (there may be some damage from being on HRT so levels won't be quite so high as before). It will happen gradually but it will happen. Some changes are permanent, some aren't. Also expect dramatic mood swings, and probably overwhelming disgust and self-hatred due to being flooded with the wrong hormones and resuming the wrong physical development.

Bone structure changes don't reverse obviously. Things like skin texture and body hair growth rate will go back to "normal". MtF breasts will shrink a little but most stay there. New FtM hair will still be there but will grow slower. FtM voice will stay the same.

>>7245190

Do you know what scar tissue is? Here: http://www.wisegeekhealth.com/what-is-scar-tissue.htm

>>7245338
Thanks. Is it really as easy as ordering meds and taking them daily? Does a good exercise and diet play into the success of your treatment?

>>7245546
Yes. You should get blood tests if you want to be safe and make sure your levels are correct, but you can pretty much just take a "one size fits all" dose and it'll be safe and probably effective enough. I don't know how getting a blood test without a prescription works (and it will vary depending on the practice), so you'll have to look into that yourself.

The exception to that is if you have any allergies or other conditions. Some tablets contain lactose for example. You might be allergic to the drugs themselves (which is why it's recommended to start only the antiandrogen first and add oestrogen a few days later, so you can isolate which drug is causing a negative reaction if it does). If you have liver or kidney problems, or a family history of blood clots (and probably some other things that don't come to mind right now), then you should get more advice, because a lot of forms of HRT can aggravate that (though there are alternatives that are okay in those cases).

Being on a slight calorie surplus (or at least not a deficit) and having a well-rounded diet with lots of protein will promote growth.

>>7241658
stop helping people kill themselves, don't kill the man / women to turn them into an alien. this is like supporting suicide you all should be ashamed of yourself.

>>7245593
I really appreciate the insight, anon. I'll just do some proper research and lurk more.

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Should I start gaining weight immediately on hrt? If not how long should I wait. I'm 120 pounds now.

How do I stop hating myself for wanting to be a girl?

I consider myself less than human, I don't even deserve to be alive.

How do people have the confidence to not care or come out or like themselves?

>>7247553
Anime teached me that I should punch destiny in the face and be happy doesn't matter what.

>>7245127
antiandrogens have a shit side effect profile and it's best to quit them as soon as possible
it also allows you to lower your estrogen dose which may prevent blood clots and the complications of such like dvt and stroke (both elevated risks in cis women on hrt)
>>7245398
>New FtM hair will still be there but will grow slower. FtM voice will stay the same.
neither of these are necessarily guaranteed
i've known a few detransitioners and it varies depending on how long they were on t for, how old they were when they started, how responsive their bodies were to it, how long they've been off, etc but body hair goes down a lot (does the same for trans women), facial hair might thin out a bit, and voice does seem to change in the long run
a detransitioner i used to be friends with estimated recently that when she was on t she passed 90% when she had facial hair (she was an aiden so she couldn't pass without it), quit t in may and now says she's only read as male about 5% of the time even when she doesn't shave, and she presents as butch so a femme probably wouldn't be mistaken for male at all

>>7247486
female weight distribution doesnt kick in until 6 months or so. If you do it ealier you'd still get fat on male places.

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Can enjoyment of playing as female in roleplay games and pretending to be one on the internet for like a year give you gender dysphoria?

I'm gay/queer whatever and in a relationship right now and really like my position within the relationship as the submisive one and feminisation and shit. I dont know if this is signs of wanting to be a girl because gender is kidna of a social construct and a fuckload of women i know and work with are actually pretty masculine and not like me.

>>7248311
you're agp
pretending to be a girl online does not cause dysphoria, but it can be a sign of agp, which CAN cause dysphoria
however none of that is a guarantee (most agps aren't and never become dysphoriacs)
also, the existence of people who do not conform to gender roles does not invalidate them, even butch women are very different to normal men and effeminate men to normal women

>>7248311
>>7248422
Only thing that really matters is that do you want live as a female? AGP seems just like a big meme to me where asexual trannies like to mock sexually active trannies.

>>7248538
That's pretty much what AGP is.

AGP is not caring about the everyday life as female and only interested in sex as a girl.
If you care about both is not AGP, otherwise literally every trans would be one.

>>7248538
nah
besides blanchard thought that being sexually inactive meant you were inherently agp and active meant you couldn't be, kek
but i'm not referring to either purely-blanchardian agp or meme agp, i'm referring to my own research on the topic (which is inherently influenced by blanchard's because ALL the research is his but deviates from it in several important aspects), which has uncovered it is very real (which was not at all the answer i hoped for when i started, so this isn't my bias)
anyone talking about sexual submission and feminization as an aspect of sex dysphoria is talking from an agp perspective

>>7248643
You explained nothing in the end.
Is AGP to you a person getting off to the thought of being the other gender even if outside of it they still want to live as that opposite gendee? Because if so, almost all trans people would be considered AGP and that makes no sense.

>>7248710
>almost all trans people would be considered AGP
haha what
no, there are a LOT of trans people who do not get off to the idea of being the opposite sex
agp is the most common mtf dysphoria etiology (and though it's hard to get an aap estimate it seems to be increasing), but it is absolutely not the only one and what you are describing is NOT an inherent transsexual experience -- it's not one i'm at all familiar with, for instance

>>7248771
Can you answer my question

>>7248833
yes, here is the answer to your question: any natal male who gets off to the idea of being a woman is agp, and any natal female who gets off to the idea of being a man is aap
"but that means most trans women are agp" yes, they are, this is quantifiable fact
"but that means ALL/almost all trans women are agp" no, that's you projecting your experiences onto other people, there are a lot of non-agp trans women

>>7248846
I said almost all, why are you saying all/almost all?

And yes, I do believe that if AGP was what you think it is, almost all transexuals would be AGP.

>>7248862
because you said 'all' in one post and 'almost all' in another
we can quantify the majority of women who are transsexual come from an agp background with what we know about agp transitioners:
>sexual orientation and agp have a 0.85 correlation -- that is, a trans woman who describes herself as exclusively androphilic is 85% likely to not be agp, and one who does not is 85% likely to be agp. a fairly recent study found 27% of trans women to be heterosexual, and the 2011 'injustice at every turn' report with a sample size of 3000 trans women found 23% to be. taking the middle number of 25%, we find 67.5% of trans women to be agp.
>we know that an overwhelming majority of mtf transitioners past 30 are agp. anne vitale said in a report last updated earlier this year the average age of her trans female patients is 48, a 2014 nhs report stated the average as 42, and the 'injustice at every turn' report stated it as 38. we don't have age breakdowns for most of those, and we can't conclusively draw anything from an age breakdown because there are younger agp transitioners as well, but that too points strongly in the direction of most trans women being agp.
however, that is NOT 'almost all'. it's most, but it's not a universal transsexual experience. saying it is unreasonably projects your experiences. if sexual fascination was a universal trans experience, how would prepubertal transitioners exist?

>>7247659
You are right that FtM hair can reduce, (though some of it will still be there). I don't believe the voice can change though; MtF voices never change on oestrogen, and the difference in voice is due to the structure of the vocal cords (which isn't going to change back) rather than continuous effects of hormones.

>>7248891
i wouldn't have believed in estrogenic voice changes if i hadn't heard them several times over
i suspect it's because ftmtf voices originally developed on estrogen unlike mtf voices, and ftm voices for postpubertal transitioners don't fully masculinize

>>7248876
Because it's not about "sexual fascination", it's about only being able to comfortably be aroused at the thought of having a vagina.
What's the percentage of trans people who actually have genital dysphoria? Much more often than not, having genital dysphoria would mean that sexually speaking they prefer to have the opposite set of genitals, does that make them AGP to you?

>>7248900
>Much more often than not, having genital dysphoria would mean that sexually speaking they prefer to have the opposite set of genitals, does that make them AGP to you?
no, because you can need the opposite set of genitals without being aroused at the thought of SPECIFICALLY having those genitals
again, your model completely fails to account for people knowing they are trans long befre they understand sexual intercourse, and increasingly often transitioning before that age
sure i'd need to have a dick to be able to have sex, but i don't get aroused thinking about having one

>>7241745
i'm on the exact same situation as you anon. I haven't really figured out an answer and i'm dead inside.

what i try to do now is to lose weight/workout and take better care of myself (even though depression makes it difficult... fuck you depression), to make my body as androgynous/fem as i can. I never really cared about socially transition, nor pronouns and names, so merely seeing body changing ever so slightly in the right direction gives me some tiny joy to hold on to and not become an hero.

is 50mg of bical daily okay?

>>7248896
Oh so that's why I've hit a wall in my transition where it concerns voice... It changed frequently for six months then completely stopped and now I'm stuck at some awkward 12yr old boy voice for the past five months.

>>7249175
yeah, shit happens
four months in my voice has dropped but isn't yet in male range and it was androgynous before, so it doesn't exactly have far to go to get there
i think that's just a dose issue though, i started after being on blockers for a few years so they're trying to go really slow to simulate natural male puberty
look into voice training

>>7249145
Nobody knows, not even any of the doctors I've talked to. It's impossible to monitor for effectiveness.

My endocrinologist has me on 50mg daily.

i'm fine with being a dude but hate my body hair to the point of being an anxious faggot about it

wat do (i have enough that shaving daily is not feasible)

>>7250024
Laser, and if that's too expensive, wax or epilate.

>>7250024
Electrolysis can remove hair permanently. Can cost anywhere from $60 to $120 an hour.

>>7250039
>Can cost anywhere from $60 to $120 an hour.

sheeeit

>>7250041
Yeah, and depending on the area, it can take a few dozen hours, especially if it's the face.

I have about 60% or 70% of a full beard and my electrologist estimates it'll take about 60 hours to remove.

>>7250024
Epilate (it will be very painful at first, significantly less painful the 2nd, 3rd, etc. time).

Waxing (same as above, but wax strips instead of a plucking razor thingy).

Electrolysis (very slow going, very painful, permanent, i'd only recommend this for facial hair)

Laser (semi-permanent, pain varies, faster than electrolysis, only really works on dark hair)

If you can afford it, get laser, otherwise you're stuck with epilation and/or waxxing.

>>7250047
I don't want to do it on my face, but my body, but I imagine that'll cost even more

>>7250056
Body hair is far less dense than facial hair, so it's about the same or even less.

>>7250056
You generally don't get want electrolysis done for large areas, that's what laser is for.

>>7250065
Laser doesn't work on all hair types. It's also not permanent.

>>7250062
>>7250065
I see.

I'd be fine with epilating but I can't really reach properly on my back

How much does laser cost?

>>7250075
If you're comfortable doing it, you could go to a salon every month and have your back waxed (and any other 'hard to reach' areas).

>>7250047

You mean 60 hours total? Is that with blend, short-wave, or galvanic?

>>7250072

The FDA has given some companies the ability to market their laser removal methods for permanent hair reduction, but not for permanent hair removal. Meaning it can permanently stop some hairs, but not all. You use electrolysis to then pick off the genocide survivors.
http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingProducts/ResourcesforYouRadiationEmittingProducts/ucm252757.htm
>Further, manufacturers may not claim that laser hair removal is either painless or permanent unless the FDA determines that there are sufficient data to demonstrate such results. Several manufacturers received FDA permission to claim, "permanent reduction," NOT "permanent removal" for their lasers. This means that although laser treatments with these devices will permanently reduce the total number of body hairs, they will not result in a permanent removal of all hair.

>>7250702
My electrologist uses blend.

>>7250783

But was it 60 hours total then?

>>7250862
Yeah, that includes all cycles of hair growth.

>>7250870

Wow, that's cool then. Did she say you are a special case? When I looked it up it said it took 200-300 hours normally, but that some people can do it in under 40 hours.

>>7249017
>make my body as androgynous/fem as i can

Same anon, literally doing this too right now.

>>7250887
I'm a very ideal candidate for electrolysis, but many electrologist I've talked to have never spent more than 100 hours to entirely clear a beard.

>>7250937

What makes someone an ideal candidate? I'm asking because I hope I don't have to spend too much to get rid of my beard.

>>7250961
To name a few that I can think of off the top of my head: weak hair follicles (HRT helps), sparse hair density, good skin genetics (some have severe irritation from electrolysis and for others its minimal), and young age.

>>7251031
Just note that, while on HRT your hair follicles will weaken, however you'll also be more susceptible to pain.

Pre-HRT I was having hour long electro sessions without need for any emla or pain killers, now 30 minutes is pushing it with both of those.

>>7251051
Yeah, another important thing to note is that female skin is weaker than male skin, which means a higher risk for scarring and skin pigmentation if you're working with an unskilled electrologist.

Some electrologists offer local anesthesia, such as lidocaine injections. Mine does and it's absolutely painless.

>>7251063
>Some electrologists offer local anesthesia, such as lidocaine injections. Mine does and it's absolutely painless.

Damn, I'll need to look into that. How long does it last?

>>7251152
Wait, never mind.
There is literally one place within a 5 hour radius that offers it and they're 3 hours away.

>>7251152
Numbing lasted long after the session was over and swelling took almost a week to go down. Everyone is different though.

>>7251176
See if you can schedule marathon sessions with them. That can make the long drive worth it.

>>7251178
>swelling took almost a week to go down
Wow, okay. Thanks for the info though.

>>7251182
I'll take a look into it. Thanks.

Which type of doctor would be best to see if I'm looking to acquire insurance coverage for facial hair removal? An endocrinologist or a regular MD? I've already seen a dermatologist about this, they told me to see a doctor.

>>7251792
To reiterate my question, I'm wondering which type of doctor is most qualified to determine whether facial hair removal is necessary or not. My insurance is unlikely to cover it but just maybe if I talk with the right doctor...

>>7251792
>>7251874

If they told you to see a doctor, despite them being a doctor themselves, they must have been talking about a general practitioner.

>skinny as fuck
>wanna start gaining weight since I've been on HRT a while
>but I like being skinny too much and feel guilty if I eat above 1500 cal
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Hi I am wondering what is AGP and what does it mean?

>>7252665
>eating less than the daily recommandation.

HRT isn't gonna do much for you if you look like an auswitz survivor.

>>7254805

DRs are extremely generalised, gotta go by your TDEE. If you're small with womanly muscle mass and don't do much exercise, 1500 is pretty normal.

>>7254805
I know, but at the same time being underweight is one of the few things that makes me feel good about myself. I need to get out of this mindset, but I'm having trouble. What's a good BMI to shoot for? I'm at a little under 17 right now.

>>7255931
They shouldn't even prescribe HRT for people that are significantly underweight, you should get to about 20 BMI.

>>7255931
how long have you been on hrt for?
i'm biased because i like both trans girls and anamode girls so i'm more in favour of telling people not to gain
fat redistribution takes years, plural. it often doesn't even start until a year in or longer. in the long run trans women on hrt tend to gain weight even after losing muscle, due to the gain of a lot of 'reproductive fat' analogous to that of cis women during their puberty. this is not all in areas you would think of as feminine -- the abdomen is a female fat deposit, so in absolute terms trans women tend to not see a great reduction in whr anyway.

>>7255971
That seems so fat to me (though I know it's really not). Can you even have a flat stomach at that point?

>>7255990
Getting close to a year now. I've been able to keep losing weight because I'm super strict with restricting my calories (usually eat around 3-400 below maintenance these days). I'm okay with it taking years just so long as it happens despite my staying skinny (though I know they won't be as effective that way). My biggest issue is not having rounder more filled in cheeks. If I could have that and stay the weight I am now, I'd be okay I think.

>>7256003
gain to a bmi of 18
you'll still be underweight so you can be okay about that, but you'll gain a little bit of fat so you can hopefully have a more feminine face and body
if the results aren't good enough, consider cheek implants

How can I differentiate between being transgender and just wanting to be the opposite sex?

>>7256158
What are your reasons for wanting to be the opposite sex?

>>7256158
Depends on why you want to be the opposite sex. If it's just because you think you'd get treated better, or you'd be more attractive, or it would be hot or fun or something then you're not trans (note "just"; that can be one of the reasons amongst others, and those may mean you're trans). If you feel dysphoria over your body or would prefer to be the opposite sex just for its own sake even without any extrinsic benefits to it, then you might be trans.

A common question to ask here is "would you rather be an attractive man or an ugly/unremarkable woman?" (swap man/woman if you're questioning FtM). A trans person would generally be happy with just being the right sex, and being attractive as a member of their birth sex would not alleviate dysphoria they'd experience from being that sex.

Have you had any depression, anxiety, or discomfort of any kind over your sex? Has being your birth sex and perceived as such caused any impairment in the normal function of your life, and if so in what way? What kind of thoughts do you have about being the opposite sex (or transitioning, or anything along those lines)?

So i just got laser done on my face yesterday but I forgot to ask the technician how long I have to wait before shaving---some website said 10 days, but like

that's an insanely long time to wait considering how much i hate my facial hair (and how shitty it makes me look), so can I shave today?

Is an Orchie more effective than HRT at stopping boners?

I don't think I'll ever have the money for SRS, but an orchie is well within my range and I'm just curious if it has that effect.

>>7256246

Don't you have their phone number?

>>7256246
I'd just not shave until the irritation has gone. If your skin looks to have recovered then it will have.

>>7256246
Three days.

>>7256027
I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the suggestion, anon.

>>7256187
Not that anon but
>been on hormones a while
>still have doubts
>see posts like this and go like, "well duh you're obviously a tranny for X, Y, and Z reasons"
>two weeks pass
>but am I really trans?
I mean it's gotten to the point where I know well enough, but it's fuckin weird, m8s

>>7256259
If you're on HRT it should be just as effective as long as your levels are right. Boners are gonna happen regardless, just less often than if you weren't on it.

>>7257795
The level of denial and cognitive dissonance possible is truly insane. It's unfortunate, since it leads to pseudo-repression (like, where you can be explicitly literally admitting you're trans and still not doing anything or somehow denying it at the same time) in so many cases.

You pretty much just have to accept you'll always doubt yourself and go for it anyway.

>>7257812
Basically what I've done, but it's definitely quite the ride. What you said about cognitive dissonance and pseudo-repression is basically 100% on point.

>>7257821
I'm annoyed that official treatment takes so long to provide HRT in the UK, since I would have taken it at basically any point it was offered, but because NHS bureaucracy/underfunding it took nearly 4 years (so much of which was just waiting, and much of the rest of which was nominal "therapy", i.e. gatekeeping), while I knew I was trans and my life was falling apart from dysphoria the entire time. It's still my fault, and I try not to think about that too hard, because there's no way I'm acknowledging I actually had a chance to successfully transition and be consistently passing but squandered it.

I don't know what could be done to address it. More education on transsexualism would do little for the pseudo-repressing people I think. I had done lots of research so I knew what everything was and how transition was the only treatment and how to self-med and everything. I was even on here telling people in the same situations as me to transition, repeatedly, and didn't take my own advice. Short of handing my transition to me on a platter I don't know what would have made me do it earlier.

It sucks that you, or anyone, has to go through that. I guess if you distill it down more it really just becomes "it sucks to be trans".

>>7257881

When did you start getting treated by the NHS?

>>7257881
>it really just becomes "it sucks to be trans"
That just about hits the nail on the head. It sucks that it takes so long with NHS. Sorry you had to wait so long. Also seems like self-medding is generally harder in the UK than it has been where I live in the U.S. so that sucks too. Yeah what you said pretty much sums it all up nicely. I'm glad I stopped second-guessing myself after only a year and started self-medding right after, but I'm not sure if it's gonna end up being too late or not either, though that years time probably wouldn't have made a huge difference anyway.

>>7257904
I don't remember the exact date, but somewhere in early 2013. First HRT prescription was in June 2016. I guess that means it should be "about 3 and a half years" rather than "nearly 4". It feels like it's been so much longer now, though at the time it didn't seem so bad in a way, since everything was kind of a blur and I was trying very hard to ignore how much my body was changing and how that felt.

>>7257910
Self-medding is more or less the same I think. Maybe customs are slightly more likely to seize things, but I've not heard anything to that effect, and a lot of people manage to self-med there.

Living with my family (even though I could have just got a PO box and hidden the meds), and being explicitly discouraged from self-medding by my stepmother (who is a chemist and also the person most accepting of my being trans so I trusted her the most) was a barrier, as was the fact that almost everyone was telling me "I'm technically supportive but I think it's a terrible idea and you're not really a girl/trans". Maybe if I had have lived alone I would have given in at some point, but to rephrase what I said before: I know I would have self-medded if there was nothing stopping me, but I needed only the faintest of barriers to fuel my pseudo-repression and give my subconscious an excuse to not take responsibility. The official process was validation of sorts, but more than that it was a way to avoid taking responsibility. Fuck, I even didn't self-med for a year after I got my diagnosis (and yes it did take that long from the diagnosis to get HRT; somehow there was more gatekeeping and then excessive waiting and a redundant second pre-HRT blood test).

Transfruits of 4chan I am troubled. I have some reason to suspect I am in fact one of you people, or at least some sort of degenerate.
For a very long time I've felt that I wanted to be a woman but assumed it was entirely for sexual and societal reasons. However these feelings have become more and more ubiquitous as time has passed (turning 20 soon) and are now a daily occurance at least. I've also grown to dislike a number of my masculine attributes; namely wide shoulders, wide chest, large feet, body hair, and most alarmingly genitalia. Looking at myself in the mirror has always been an uncomfortable experience but I've assumed it was just because I was ugly, despite many people who had no real reason to lie saying otherwise. I have never been insulted for being ugly either, despite getting in a great deal of ad hominem based arguments. In my past I've had a few "tells" that I was possibly trans, but nothing that couldn't be written off as normal adolescent curiosity.
Whether I am actually a tranny or not (I would greatly prefer not, but ask for your honest opinions) I am fairly certain I could never ever look like a woman with anything short of a full body (or brain, depending on your perspective) transplant and have no desire whatsoever to become whatever the Sam Hill Caitlyn 'the ambush' Jenner turned xerself into. I've found little to no information on gender dysphoria treatments besides transition and fucking electroshock therapy, so any info on the alternatives would be appreciated.
Feel free to ask additional questions as need be. Thank you for your time.

>>7259579
from that description alone -- and i will be the first to admit internet diagnosis through a paragraph is not necessarily accurate -- you are a classic example of a Degenerate AGP Tranny! congratulations!
transition is the dysphoria treatment. it is the only dysphoria treatment (detransitioners who say otherwise are people who transitioned as an attempt to escape childhood trauma, which is a different situation). there are decades of evidence to back up its efficacy. the reason the only alternative you're reading about is electroshock is because the only people stupid enough to ignore decades of non-controversial research are also stupid enough to think ect works.
caitlyn jenner transitioned at 65 and is from a family and culture where spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on plastic surgery is normal. her situation cannot be compared to yours.

>>7259686
Well fuck.
Follow up question, I thought AGP was just a fetish and not really trans. I was also under the impression pretty much everyone thought it was bunk. What exactly do you mean by it?

>>7259833
agp is a fetish, but that doesn't contraindicate transsexualism. agp women and aap men have dysphoria as a result of a fetish (is my belief -- others say they have a fetish as a result of dysphoria, but i think the evidence falls more in the direction i believe). a*p is the single biggest cause of sex dysphoria, and a*p transitioners have outcomes just as good as other transitioners.
agp under that specific name is criticized because of how it was introduced (through the works of ray blanchard, the richard nixon of transsexualism research -- he did everything and he did it all in the worst possible way), but the fact that many/most trans women have some degree of erotic motivation is no secret and is widely accepted. the wpath accepts it, the american psychological association accepts it, most people in the trans community accept it. they just freak out over the specific term agp.

I'm gonna come out to my family as trans(mtf) soon, any advice?

>>7260349
Don't.

>>7260417
why

>>7260349
Have some sort of parental resource that explains being trans if they don't know much about it. There's plenty online.

When I told my parents I was trans they asked "Well what does that mean?" and I just was all "Uuumm" and having prepared info would've helped.

>>7260349
Make sure you are prepared to run away if your family is likely transphobic; eg get ss card, bag of food and clothes and money, etc.

possibly tell someone trustworthy before so that they can back you up

you can do it in a note also

be prepared for shitty reactions, plan out your responses to them beforehand

>>7260349
I basically tell people that you know all those little actions that make a male cat court and fuck a female cat. I got the female human set of those actions, not the male set. Furthermore it is hard coded into the reptile part of the brain, and thus can't be changed. No matter how much I try to go against it, it relentlessly keeps telling me I'm female and to be a female. I'm obviously a MtF transgender.

Questioning ftm, mid 20s.
How bad does dysphoria have to be to be genuine and worth treating?
I mean, it's one thing to SAY "yes I want a male body, no not because muh privilege envy," but how do you know that what you're feeling actually equates to being transgender?

I function fair enough in day to day life, I don't find it difficult to look in a mirror, I've never tried to kill myself or had a panic attack or anything.

I'd say the only severe impact this feeling has had on me is romantically/sexually. I've just got nothing going on there. The prospect scares/disgusts/depresses me and I do feel like I'd be more enthusiastic if I had a male body. But I'm just so used to the way I feel and spent so long not knowing it could be different. It's not like I'm tearfully squeezing an anime bodypillow every night, I'd made peace with dying alone way before I realised dysphoria might be the issue. So at that point, am I really missing out if I don't necessarily care anymore?

The only other stuff that consistently bothers me is if I look down when I'm in the shower etc, it just kinda freaks me out seeing what I've got, like one of those little "holy shit," kind of moments when you're struck by some kinda reality, if that makes sense? But with that, I just don't look down, so again it's whatever.
I'm also kind of careful about how I move, because I don't like feeling my chest bounce etc. But I'm pretty small and can just pretend they're not there a lot of the time. And that's not something that's consistently bugged me, either, there were a few years where I didn't mind or even somewhat embraced it. Right now is definitely not one of those times though, and aside from that brief window, I knew I wanted them removed before they even sprouted.
Also generally lack body confidence and dislike being touched or exposed.

idk. Sorry to ramble, I know you get these kinda posts all the time.
It just feels like even IF it's real, I've adapted and should just ignore it at this point.

>>7262419
>hi /lgbt/, this is my dysphoria around which i have structured my entire life in an attempt at denial
>it doesn't make me a tranny though right? right? right?

Recommended places for SRS ?

>>7262419
>How bad does dysphoria have to be to be genuine and worth treating?
That is a personal decision. The question is maybe better asked as "What do I have to do to become comfortable in my own body?" For some that means a lot, for others not much or even nothing.

>AGP

>Too scared to come out to a conservative family as mtf

>Conservative town

>Too scared for counceling

>14 years old in northern wisconsin

What do i do?

>>7264664
>Come out
>Speak to a gender therapist
>Get B&

Don't delay, it'll get worse over time and you will regret not acting sooner. At 14 it's pretty much a guarantee that you will pass.

>>7264664
Create connections with as many people as possible and come out to those you trust. Friends, doctors, counselors, etc. At your age, you will need their support for any chance of transitioning early.

Asked pretty much the same question in hrtgen but got fuck all in response:

What the fuck do you do about thick heavy set eyebrows? I know hrt doesn't affect the hair itself but does fat redistribution change their position? Can I laser or whatever hair away to make them thinner?

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>>7267076
>I know hrt doesn't affect the hair itself
it does
past that just pluck them
pluck them into a classic type shape, eyebrows tend to retain the shape you pluck them into so if you do something trendy you'll still have it in 30 years

>>7267076
HRT can make some or a lot of your eyebrow hairs completely vallus so they're not as dense.

>>7241658
When's the last time someone has gotten an order from AssetChemist? It's been over a month now and I can't even access the website anymore. I'm scared senpai, I don't have 130$ dollars to spare to order more.

>>7267105
>>7267143
Thanks, that's good to know. What about the heavy set part? Just judging by what I can feel, they're heavy set because there's fat being distributed there and not from a heavy brow ridge.

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Do trans thoughts ever end? Please?

>>7267380
Only if you are on the 1% of trannies that end up looking pretty, then the trans thoughts become actual enjoyable thoughts.

It's like a reward for suffering so much and getting lucky.

>>7249221
Oh yeah if dosage plays a part then that was a factor for me too. I started at the typical "full dose" but by month 5, the doctor decreased it by half because I was having cystic acne so severe all over my body, I would wake up at night in pain.

I have been considering speech therapy but I'm too anxious and self-conscious, I'd rather work on it alone at home if given the skills.

>>7267386
I haven't even tried to transition yet. I've been waiting 1 1/2 months for hormones to come in through the mail and it's driving me insane.

>>7264664

I cannot stress enough that you must resolve this quickly. If you're still unsure, you have to speak to a therapist, get over your fear. I would however, be hesitant about coming out to your parents. Because if they don't support you, they are not going to allow you to be on hormones and fuck your life up. So if it seems at all like they would not accept you being trans do not tell them. Get medical treatment in secret or self-med, but they can't know if they won't stand with you.

>>7267105

The problem with plucking them into something trendy is that it might not be trendy 30 years from then. My aunt, for example, plucked her eyebrows really thin and small. Now the style is to have them a bit more natural. Plus, she's a middle-aged woman, so even if her eyebrow style is still popular, it's popular for younger women.

>>7267273

You didn't see >>7244115? They were reported to the governmental authorities by a small-brained reporter. You will likely never get your package. I think the last orders anyone could have gotten were those made in August.

>>7270470
Fucking hell, first the DailyFail running a smear campaign and now this?

Not even /diy/ing and I'm pissed. The last few years have made me hate this shitty island and it's shitty culture so much.

QHI is still around though, right?

>>7270470
So do I need to make a chargeback? i don't know where to go anymore. Is there anywhere left?

So I (MtF) started HRT about a year ago fairly well under the impression it wasn't going to go well. It didn't, I've got saggy traffic cone tits, no hip growth, and no real facial change. Pretty much ready to just get FtM top surgery and detransition, therapist says it's my decision and basically refuses to help, is this a bad idea or what? I'd rather die than be a hon and this hopeless boymode with no progress besides voice is killing me.

>>7270628

What was the Daily Mail doing?

I was mad too despite not even being from the UK. It's sad because United Pharmacies stopped selling HRT not that long ago too.

Another anon reported getting a package from QHI like last week. So it's probably still around.

>>7270678

I guess you have to make a chargeback. What do you need and where do you live? Because there are still some places left, it's just whether they can ship to you.

>>7270899
There's a group called Mermaids (not entirely sure if that's how it's spelt) in the UK, if I'm understanding correctly, they're basically a gender help group for people under 18 - specializing with children.

A couple of weeks ago the DailyFail started publishing stories, saying that they were forcing children to be the opposite gender, slamming them for child abuse, etc. you get the idea.

My mum's friends with one of the people that works with Mermaids and she told me about what was happening. I try to avoid trans stuff in the news so everything I know is second-hand info though.

>>7270899
I live on the East Coast US. Hopefully there's someone around.

>>7270868
Are you taking HRT under the supervision of a doctor? Do you think you've explored all your options and tried different medications? Have you had blood work and is your levels adequate?

>>7270988

Oh, in that case, try Inhousepharmacy, alldaychemist, or QHI.

Would an srs technique that utilizes both the scrotal and penial skin be favourable or has science not advanced enough?

>>7271042

You mean with the scrotal as the vagina and the penile as the labia?

>>7270998
Yeah I went legit because I was too scared to self med. If by 'medications' you mean psych drugs they've never given me any despite my requests. If you mean HRT I'm an American so it's spiro, self med, or be rich.
The way I see it I can do nothing to hate myself a lot and be a freak, go hon to hate myself the most, or detransition to hate myself a lot but nobody will know I'm a freak. I could kill myself but these is nothing to suggest that will improve my situation, if there even is a 'situation' after that.

>>7271102
Why not stay boymode, keep taking HRT and save money for various surgeries?

>>7271107
Even surgery can only do so much. Jaw reduction is a fucking joke after 40 when half of your face falls off and I'll be able to afford it by 30 if I'm lucky, there's nothing they can do about an inverted triangle frame besides take out ribs which is super unsafe for how little it helps, and height is fairly non negotiable unless you want to cut off your legs.

Brow and nose job isn't really going to cut it.

>>7271200
Well you should have thought of that before trying to transition desu. HRT wasn't going to fix any of that either, bone changes after puberty just do not happen often enough for it to be a consideration.
If you can't handle being a masculine transgirl and absolutely must be 100% petite and feminine I have bad news; It's not happening. Accept that or detrans for sure.

>>7260838
Thank you. I have trouble explaining transgenderism in so many words. I still find it confusing. I'm only out to my mom and 2 best friends. Seeing if I can get hrt through my dad's insurance, blue Cross blue shield. If I can I will probably have to tell him. Tbh I think I will tell him a little less than the truth. That I am hormonally unbalanced. If I tell him the real deal he will just think I'm sexually confused and a delusional faggot. My mom 'supports' me but thinks I have Tumblr syndrome and not to take mones. She is self-serving.

A little rewrite:

I basically tell people that you know all those little actions that make a male cat court and fuck a female cat, and make the female cat care for the young. I got the female human set of those actions, not the male set. Furthermore it is hard coded into the reptile part of the brain, and thus can't be changed. No matter how much I try to go against it, it relentlessly keeps telling me I'm female, to act female and to present as female.

Anyone here have plans for permanent boymode with HRT and possibly SRS? Is this any way to live? Any major pitfalls I'm not thinking of? Other than dying alone which I have basically just accepted.

>>7272366
It seems the most likely outcome for me, except without the SRS because it's unlikely I'll be able to get a good enough result. I'm not resigning myself to it yet, and I'm going to seriously try with girlmode first (nowhere near soon, with only being early into HRT), but if it's clear it's doomed then I won't have much choice but to give up. That is unless I become really desperate and the rare occasions I do pass compensate for the horror of failing most of the time.

Pitfalls would be the crushing depression of never being able to be a girl, but if you're in circumstances where you have to adopt a permanent boymode it would have been like that anyway. Having your breasts or femininity in general noticed would create awkward situations, though no more than in non-passing girlmode so again, not really a problem.

>>7272366
I'll probably go with an orchi and hrt and remain in boy mode too, unless i'm somehow able to pass when I eventually save up enough to pay for ffs and vfs many years from now.

>>7272027
What?

>>7272434
But anon-sama that crushing depression will be with me forever no matter what I do. ;_; Even if I pass my childhood and most of my young adulthood is ruined forever.
I am sort of worried about my boobs being clocked since I have no intention of making a scene coming out just to never socially transition. Don't want to bind because it can hurt development.

>>7272505
At least we can all suffer together. I wouldn't get SRS but every time I see a knife I think about giving myself a quick penectomy/orchiectomy combo so I figure I better get it done right ASAP. Plus my insurance covers it, at least for now.

Thanks for the replies, at least I'm not alone.

>>7272366
you can't have permanent boymode and get SRS you need to present female full time for a year

>>7272904
You mean show up to therapist and doctor appointments presenting fenale for a full year while lying through my teeth?

>>7273495
yeah i guess, but why would you want a neo vag if you're still presenting male? i don't get that

>>7273588

different anon, but people in the street won't see your neovag. they WILL see a square-jawed barrel-chested man in a dress. getting secret surgery makes way more sense to me.

Anyone who's gone through voice training, were you able to switch between your female and male voice easily at first or was it hard? I thought it might not be a bad idea to start training my voice now so I can easily slip into a female voice when I start transitioning (hopefully within the next couple years) but I might be wrong.

>>7274196
You should be able to switch between voices rather easily while you're still training, so start practicing as soon as you can. Voice is one of the most important things for passing.

Ive recently come to terms with the fact that i am in fact transgender. It always makes me so happy to hear people call me princess and use female pronouns among other things like shopping with women wishing i could be them and stuff like that. The thought that i was transgender has always been at the back of my mind but i always suppressed it because of two things. Im a massive person standing at 6'7". I would play along being a guy but truth is im just super tall and i weigh about 270lbs. So im a big girl to say the least. Secondly the fact that i live in the Southern US doesnt help my case much either, religion racism, and everythingnotstrightphobia. It makes me feel a bit more at peace coming to terms with it, too bad i cant start hormones till college next August, hopefully dysphoria doesnt kill me by then

>>7274196
idk, i haven't really tried but i can't go back to my old voice
been using this voice nonstop for almost a year now
i think i could go back to the old if i really tried but i don't see the point

>>7274325
best of luck, friend
is buying hormones diy possible for you? you can be very discrete about it by acquiring a po box and the first effects are subtle enough for nobody else to notice until college

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who is that in the mirror

>>7277196
Sure as hell isn't either of us.

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Can you be trans without having any real type of thoughts about being the opposite gender before puberty? I'm certain I'm trans but keep doubting myself and not doing anything about it because before the age of 16 I never really thought about it.

Whenever I see articles about transitioning the people say they realised they were the wrong gender super early in life, like at 5 years old, and always wanted to play with female toys and wear dresses and stuff, but I was never really like that. I wasn't particularly masculin either, and had a disdain for typical masculine activities and toys, but I didn't have an affinity for feminine ones either.

The closest experiences I had to what I typically see other trans people having is that I always adored cute things and babies, and that I always wanted long hair (infact I cried once because my hair was cut too short and I hated it), and some other various little things.

I'm super worried that I somehow managed to convince myself I'm trans when I'm not and that these feelings might just be a type of escapism from my depression (ie. thinking stuff like "if I was a girl everything would be fine and amazing in the world and I wouldn't hate myself and be a horrible failure who has no friends", etc.).
At the same time though I want nothing more than to be a girl and wear cute clothes and to be feminine.

>>7277706
Wow I'm the same. I started thinking I might be trans when I was 16 and before that I only had small signs - stuff like wanting long hair or a couple faint memories of wanting to be a girl. I never played with girl toys or wanted to dress as a girl either. Though I'm not sure if I'm trans either desu.

My theory is that I started feeling trans during puberty because my body became more masculine. This makes sense to me because the older I get, the worse my dysphoria gets.

>>7277706
>>7277737
Oh I forgot something
This is the definition of being transgender
A. A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender, of at least 6 months duration, as manifested by 2* or more of the following indicators: [2, 3, 4]

1. a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or, in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics) [13, 16]

2. a strong desire to be rid of one’s primary and/or secondary sex characteristics because of a marked incongruence with one’s experienced/expressed gender (or, in young adolescents, a desire to prevent the development of the anticipated secondary sex characteristics) [17]

3. a strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics of the other gender

4. a strong desire to be of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)

5. a strong desire to be treated as the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)

6. a strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)
source: http://www.ifge.org/302.85_Gender_Identity_Disorder_in_Adolescents_or_Adults

As you can see it mentions 2 kinds of criteria (for mtf) - hating masculine body traits and wanting to look like a girl (physical) or feeling that you are a girl/ wanting to be treated like a girl (psychological). It never mentions how you dress or what games you like. So all those people who "realised" they were trans when they played with dolls at age 5 are saying bullshit. Those are called gender roles and stereotypes. Just because a guy likes a dress, that does not make him a girl.

Also the definition doesn't say that these feelings need to start in childhood - they just need to be "of at least 6 months duration".

>>7277706
It sounds like you are trans, you don't have to have had the standard 'I love girls toys, wearing dresses, etc.' as a child.
Some have known they were the wrong gender since being a child, for others it started during puberty or after puberty.

If you woke up tomorrow as a girl, would you be happy? Would you want to change back and keep being a guy?
If you were a 10/10 guy in terms of attractiveness, would you be happy being an average looking girl?

>>7277815
Not that anon but that last line you wrote anon...
>Have been told by various people that I'm cute/attractive
>not always sure if they're serious
>literally can't tell 'cause I always feel like I'm so weird looking when I look in the mirror.
I sure wish the person in the mirror felt like me

>>7277836
>literally can't tell 'cause I always feel like I'm so weird looking when I look in the mirror.

My gender therapist asked me about that, she said it would be strange if I was trans and didn't think I looked weird in the mirror.

>>7277879
Yeah I sorta shift between thinking I'm ugly af, pretty okay looking, or just really weird/off looking. Get anything like that?

>>7277706
Maybe you didn't think about it because you didn't know transition was possible? Perhaps transgenderism wasn't in your vocabulary or if it was, you thought it meant drag queens and men in dresses. When you were younger, can you recall feeling any dislike about the idea of being a male? Such as body hair on the chest and armpits, a crotch bulge from your penis, facial hair, etc? You know, the kind of gender dysphoria that define transsexuals.

Forget about liking stereotypically feminine things. It's irrelevant if you're trying to decide whether to start HRT and have feminization surgery.

>>7277889
All the time.

I could look identical every day and still think that sometimes I look like a freak and sometimes look normal.

>>7277909
Yeah iktf. Before I started hormones I would frequently look in the mirror and get the feeling that it had been a really long time since I had last seen myself, like I was surprised with how I looked, even though it had probably been less than 12 hours.

>>7277925
Sort of related I guess? I started hrt 5~ months ago but haven't stood in front of a full body mirror for maybe a year. I did about a week ago and it made me extremely happy, probably the happiest I've been in the last 2 years, which is kinda sad now that I think about it.

>>7277737
>>7277783
>My theory is that I started feeling trans during puberty because my body became more masculine. This makes sense to me because the older I get, the worse my dysphoria gets.
That does make sense and makes me feel better, and the definition does reassure me, thanks.

>>7277815
>If you were a 10/10 guy in terms of attractiveness, would you be happy being an average looking girl?
I would definately prefer to be an average looking girl than a 10/10 guy, but I am scared that if I were to go through hrt I would end up looking like an ugly girl. I would not wish to be either a 10/10 guy or ugly girl though, and don't know which I would prefer. Being a 10/10 guy wouldn't mean much to me, but being an ulgy girl would be pretty depressing.
I've been told I am quite attractive, and I sort of know I'm not ugly, but whenever I look into a mirror I can only see myself as being ugly.

>>7277896
>Maybe you didn't think about it because you didn't know transition was possible?
This is certianly true, I had no idea it was a thing at all when younger.

I have always never really liked body hair, when I was younger (probably around 6-8) I do remember wanting to have a beard because I thought clever people all had beards, but later on (after 9 or 10 probably) I started to despise the idea of all body hair, especially facial hair. At the start of puberty I also tried to hide any crotch bulge I had. Other stuff, such as my genitals (I particularly hate my testicles) I didn't really mind/think about until after puberty though.

>>7278007
Anyway the only way to be sure is
>>>/therapist/

>>7257956
Damn, I live in an informed consent state in the US, and I started going to therapy in early 2013 and got on hormones within a month. (Really lucky with endocrinologist openings)
Now, three and a half years later, I'm done with a lot of transition milestones.
I've talked with Brits before on this website saying that they can understand having required therapy sessions and long wait times for hormones, but I'm very thankful I had relatively small amounts of red tape to cut to get hormones.

Best of luck to you though.

So I woke up this morning with some acne on my face.

I can think of two explanations:

1. I have a teddy bear that I like to kiss and rub my face against because I cuddle it. I'm thinking maybe there was some bacteria on my saliva or something that I got on my face that caused my acne.

2. I shaved yesterday. Now because I don't really know when you're supposed to switch razor blades, I have used this blade multiple times before. Maybe it's not all that sharp anymore. Before shaving, I washed my face with warm water that was close to being hot and kept reapplying as I shaved. I also washed the razor with the same temperature water as I shaved.

So which is it likely to be? I was fortunate enough to never get acne anywhere but on my nose before except for three small bumps that I suspect may be related to this incident, so I don't think it's hormonal or anything like that. I'm also worried I'll get a red discoloration on my cheek like I have on my nose now. I already applied some benzoyl peroxide. How do I make sure it doesn't stay red once the acne is gone?

>>7281987
Probably the teddy bear?

I get acne if I don't change my pillow case often enough, it's the build up of oils from skin and hair getting soaked up by the fabric.
Touching your face too much can also cause it (oils on your hands getting smeared on your face).

>>7282026

So how do I wash him then? A wet rag with some some soap and just kind of press it into him with some scrubbing motions?

>>7282085
I honestly have no idea.
I've never had to wash a stuffed toy before, sorry.

>>7270899
I live on the East Coast US. Hopefully there's someone around.

>>7282937
Ignore that, my computer is a piece of shit and glitches out constantly.


Back to what I was trying to post in the first place
I finally got the official "you get on hormones I'll disown you" speech from my family. What the hell do I do now?

>>7282085

Just throw him in a washing machine on delicate. Unless his stitching in tatters, he should be fine. Will take forever to dry though, unless he's ok to be tumble dried, but I wouldn't risk it with heat.

Or wash him by hand in a skin/bath with washing powder and just gently squeeze and release for a bit. Just gotta make sure he's submerged so you clean right through him, because any muck that's seeped in won't be cleaned away with a rag.

>>7282951

How is it that it posted the same message two days later?

>I finally got the official "you get on hormones I'll disown you" speech from my family. What the hell do I do now?

I got something similar after I came out and it unnecessarily complicated my life by forcing me to order HRT-related stuff to a PO box. My father has seen my meds, but I told him I'm not on HRT, so he believes me. Part of the reason is probably because he's in denial and not just because I have a trustworthy record.

Are your parents the type to come into your room and search?

>>7283729

Yeah, he's 6 ft tall though. So he's not going in any washer I have access to.

Should I wear rubber gloves for the second method since I think you're talking about detergent?

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>wide hips
>fat thighs
>curvy waist
>hon shoulders

Was I made just to suffer?

>>7284333

Curvy waist? Do you mean a thin one? Also, if you have all of that, you're better off than most trannies.

>>7284350
>Do you mean a thin one?

I guess, yeah. It's not an ideal female waist obviously (though I doubt there's any transwomen who are born that well off) but I always thought it was a bit more feminine than what I saw on other guys.

So I'm basically a bear. But I don't think I'm muscular (I'm fat and hairy) but I really want to transition. All I wanna know is what can I do to feminize my body initially and do hormones really feminize your body more? What diet and exercises do I need to follow in order to feminize my body? Please help

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>>7284375

Do you think she has an ideal waist? How does your body compare?

>>7284449

You need to drop your BMI to 18.5 via cardio. When you get to that point then you start gaining weight. You might want to work out your ass then as well. There's some debate over whether you should lose weight before or after HRT.

You can also start hair removal now. Don't forget to start training your voice. You can find resources on that by searching on the off-site archive.

Wtf are there no transpeople in their mid/late 20's in Las Vegas? Everyone I meet is a decade older than me at least. I just want to make new friends and share experiences and stuff but I can't connect with people in their 40's that easy.

>>7284519
Who is this semen demon????

>>7284692
kaya, spectrumofadistantdream on tumblr
>>7284618
25-29 is an uncommon age of transition
most cstses have transitioned by then but most agps won't be at the transition-or-die point for several more decades
it'll be hard to find a community in general for an mtf of that age, there are somewhat more ftms proportionately in the 25-29 group

>>7284800
That's a tranny wtf? I've never even seen a cis woman with hips like that
And thanks

Does anyone know if wearing a bra affects breast development at all? I'm still living in boymode and I've heard that wearing a sports bra can help hide your breasts, but I'm worried that doing so might also prevent them from growing much. And do regular bras help them grow by providing support or anything like that?

>>7284519
Waist to hip ratio is to big for me tbqh. I think the shape of my pelvic, upper leg area is pretty similar.

>>7277959
Don't be. I would relish that satisfaction. Many will not get that.

>>7284800
cstses? agps? wat

>>7285266
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7163958/
basically, trans people can be grouped into semi-discrete categories on the basis of correlated backstory traits, and the way these categories are dispersed re. age of transition means there aren't many mtfs transitioning in their late 20s (anyone who stays in trans communities long enough can see a bimodal distribution from 14-22 and 35-60)
but still a decent number of ftms because the category breakdown is different on that side

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This is a dumb question but what did (or do, if you're like me) you guys do to avoid wanting to die while being closeted? I don't like pretending to be someone I'm not.

Are there alternate ways to hide male genitals that don't involve pushing the twins up into your body? That really freaks me out.

>>7284908

There was a French study of (cis) women and bras which suggested wearing them too much and too early can weaken the ligaments that hold them in place, by not allowing them to hold the weight themselves. Not sure if that's work the same for trans women, but might be worth looking up.
In any case, plenty of cis women start on training bras before the shits even started growing, so any impact it has will probably be negligible.

>>7241658
im taking hrt for around 3 weeks now, daily 100mg spiro & 2mg estrofem.
is this good or should i make it higher? i was thinking about doing 100mg & 4mg when i reach a month

t. mtf

>>7284800

Which of your tranny groups do you think she falls under?

>>7284843

You've never seen a cis women with wide hips like hers or are you talking about the shape?

>>7288293

The general dose is 200 mg of spiro and 4 mg of estradiol. But you're supposed to get a blood test to confirm what you need.

>>7288321
is there a way to see if im doing it right without a test, or atleast to a extent? for example my [spoiler]nipples[/spoiler] started to hurt

>>7288351

That's a good sign. Another is if your nails lighten in color if you noticed they darkened when puberty started.

>>7288351
>>7288363

It's still not a substitute for a blood test though.

>>7288363
>>7288369
thats good to know, but problem is getting a blood test can take up to months here for whatever reason which isnt going to be soon enough, when i hit one month should i just keep going with the same dose or raise it until i can get the test done and see for real?

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>>7289455
Femboy here.

On a scale of 0 to 10 how mad are you for me appropriating female hormones to maintain my youthful appearance and increase my attractiveness, ma'am?

>>7242074
CNT ALERT

>>7256246
I usually wait three days. I figure if I can exfoliate without discomfort then I'm good to shave. Just be gentle and don't try for a really close shave.

>>7272599
>Even if I pass my childhood and most of my young adulthood is ruined forever.

iktf I'll probably never socially transition and just get SRS. I accept that I am a female in a male body, I will never be a woman because I did not have female socialisation as a child/adolescent with is crucial to being a woman. It doesn't hurt as much as it once did, which is nice.

>>7284843
Hips don't lie you fucking imposter

>>7257812
Yeah, I used to stay up and wonder whether or not I was actually trans or not, whether it was just something like envy or seeing women as better than men, or just some fetish thats going too far (not likely though since I remember having trans feelings before puberty)
but no matter how I tried to rationalize it I just kept feeling this pull towards femininity and away from masculinity in every way
I decided to just do what felt right and now I've been on hormones for a month and feel better than for a long time

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Im getting FFS with dpiegel. I know he's done a really bad job on some trans women to the point that its undeniable but it seems like he does a really good job on others. whats the deal? like this is unbelievably subtle considering how nice some of his older patients look. Whats the fucking deal? If I do go to him is there any way I can convince him to be more invasive to suit my needs?

>been on hormones for about 8 months
>was basically convinced I was trans, thought about i constantly, blah blah blah
>I think about trans stuff less, and I feel like I'm less bothered by my body and face and feel good about what's changed so far
>But I have a lot more days where I'm depressed and feel like dying
Is this normal? Am I not actually a tranny?

>>7288321
idk, i don't see it as my job to label random anons/bloggers who have not told me their life story
if you're talking about kaya, a 22 year old brazillian chick (latin american and asian countries are almost 100% csts, except japan) is probably csts
if you're talking about late20s-chan, [shrug emoji]
>>7291532
https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/50ggkr/dr_jeffrey_h_spiegel_boston_review/
spiegel gets his shitty assistants to operate on a lot of people and you can't control whether it'll be you or not

is 26 too late?

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>>7291637
no

>>7285657
pls respond

>>7289455
i don't want to identify as a transsexual though
thanks for your concern though sir

Newbie-trans here, mtf. Starting HRT soon and still ~20 pounds overweight. Dieting and exercise so far have shaved off about 8 pounds but I'm worried that losing too much weight will make me look super masculine. This is mostly because 1. I've been down to about 180 before and really muscular but that made me super dysphoric and 2. I'm pre-everything and super stocky but, at LGBT meetings, can get clocked as ftm or mtf and I think maybe it's the babyface/thunderthighs that confuse people and I don't want to lose them.

Should I just suffer through the dysphoria and get super thin for a few months so the hormones can plop some fat on my hips instead of my stomach or should I stay a chub?

>>7292110
its not impossible to lose weight on hrt
start hrt already

>>7291599
THATS NORMAL. Ffs you are on hormones! Do you generally feel better than before? Dysphoria comes in waves, it won't all go away.

>>7292127
Oh I am! Next week I'll have my prescription and I fully intend to use it. I'm just indecisive about how intense I should make my fat-loss regimen/what areas to focus on in the gym.

I've read stickys, articles, faqs, hormone recommendations, studies, step by step guides, and anything else I could find about being trans. I feel slightly more educated.

What am I supposed to do now?
I can't come out to my parents because they would disown me immediately and I'd die. I can't come out to my doctor because my parents control my medical information for another year, and I can't go out on my own and just buy hrt because they control all of my money and just take back whatever they allow me/whatever I earn.
How am I supposed to do anything?

>>7292638
Build a support group. You can't do this alone.

Please help.
>>7292656

>>7292665
With what? Go see a therapist, from what you've described you've got gender identity disorder and have had a significant history of it. All you've got to do is ask yourself if you can handle being a dude for the rest of your life. Even if you end up not passable you'll still be closer to your gender identity if you go down this road.

>>7292652
What does that even mean? How is being dependant on someone going to fix my problem of being dependant on someone?

>>7291955
buy a gaff

Heck I'll ask here too.

So after six years of standing still and being sad, I want to go see a therapist and get my gender straightened out...but there's not a lot of great options in East Idaho. I found

>>7292856

Thoughts?

>see therapist for first time
>she tells me I need to come out to everyone I know and present as female to "prepare" for HRT
What the hell? I even told her I'm self medding, this is completely different from everything I've read about. Anyone in Norway who knows how to skip this shit?

>>7293399
>this is completely different from everything I've read about
must not have read much
the 'real life test' is extremely common and was until recently a mandatory part of the transition guidelines
usually it's for surgery, but some places (mostly european countries) mandate it for hrt alone and there's nothing you can do about it
good thing you're self-medding so you can pass during your rlt

>>7292854
I thought you still had to tuck with one of those? Unless I'm wrong (which I probably am)

>>7241745
I was in the same prediciment, until I realized that cis men arent losing sleep over their gender identity. And now I'm a tomboy programmer

>>7293790
she had ffs, as you can tell by the complete change in bone structure

>>7293469
Gaffs can do a pretty good job at smoothing the bulge if you don't want to tuck but you don't have much of a choice if you're going to wear women's jeans.

>>7293795
kek time 2 repress

>>7292790
What it means is to create a network of friends and acquaintances who can offer emotional support while you try to become independant from your parents. Having someone to fall back on when you're in a tough situation like this can help a lot.

You're in school, right? Maybe you could talk to one of the school counselors or to an LGBT group about coming out to your parents.

https://files.catbox.moe/srd4wl.pdf

This is a clinic near where I live. Does this look good for getting prescriptions?

>>7294058

Looks SJW as fuck. So I wouldn't worry about them refusing you. What are you worried about?

>>7294058
Yes, definitely. Having a local trans specific health clinic is a godsend.

>>7294058
yeah. theyll give out hormones like candy judging from it.

>>7241930
Meanwhile I'm a "girl" and that makes me want to die. I'd do anything to be born male.

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>>7295414
Wanna trade? I'm a beta male in respects but I do still have a penis so it's not that bad a deal?

>>7293852
Will it be fine with skirts and dresses?

I know that metabolism slows down during HRT, but I was wondering how I should really be measuring calories, I've been on HRT for 7 months and losing weight has starting to become a bit difficult, should I just calculate it as if I was a cis woman?

>>7296352
Should be.

>try to ignore wishing I was a girl as much as possible
>encounter tranny in videogame/on internet
>make fun of them, try to hurt and belittle them as best as I can, do mean things to them
>realize 99% of the time they're transitioning and doing things
>cry

make it stop

>>7298535
transition then. Be the cute girl.

>>7298535
>encounter tranny in videogame/on internet
>make fun of them, try to hurt and belittle them as best as I can, do mean things to them
You are a horrible person.

Just transition already, that's the only thing that could 'make it stop'. View your transition as medical treatment or something if you hate the idea of being a tranny so much but just want to be a girl.

>realize 99% of the time they're transitioning and doing things
>and doing things

I'm stuck at this part, I have mones but lack the motivation/willpower/determination to do anything. Never going outside, lack of friends and unending jealousy doesn't help.

>>7299690
>You are a horrible person

I know.


I hate myself for it.

>>7298535

>make fun of them, try to hurt and belittle them as best as I can, do mean things to them

Consider the noose.

>>7300555
I do every day.

I apologized to one I did it to last night. I know it doesn't make it better.

;_;

>>7300546
>>7300558
Stop doing it, go see a gender therapist and then get hormones. You might still hate yourself, but at least you've made some progress.

Once you've got hrt you can spend the next two years crying, or whatever. As long as you're on hrt changes will happen over time.

>>7300949
I just hate trans stuff so much. I've been trying to watch YouTube videos of trans people but I just can't look at them. I don't know if I'm scared or what I just can't

I hear a lot of trans people were like abused as kids or something? I think I'm trans, but my childhood was pretty healthy and normal.

So why am I like this.

>>7301025
I've never watched any videos of trans people, just look for text based stuff - the pastebin link in the OP is full of resources.

>>7301070
You can be trans without any childhood trauma or abuse.
I don't remember completely but I'm pretty sure it's caused by your brain receiving the wrong sex hormone when developing in the womb. Hence the whole 'female in a male body' or vice versa.

>>7301102
It's just like, every mtf trans person I've met was unpassing and kind of a loser. Every ftm I've met was just a tumblr snowflake that grew out of it or makes zero effort to look male. Then again, I met a lot of these people at an anime convention so maybe that has to do with it? Idk, it just hasn't really given me much of a positive vibe towards being trans. I don't think I should take pride in it at all, I just want to be a regular girl. Instead my mind just automatically associates "trans" with the various gross (wo)manchildren I've met.

>>7301136

Are you >>7301025 or >>7301070 ?
>every mtf trans person I've met was unpassing
Lots are, the younger you are the better, also the less puberty has fucked you up, the better.
Lots also don't wait long enough before presenting as female, unless you've won the genetic lottery you can't expect to pass as a girl a few days after starting hormones.

>or makes zero effort
You need to put effort into passing, be that voice, make-up, stance, etc.
The only problem is that growing up male means you've never learnt how to act female.

>at an anime convention
I've been to a couple, they seem to attract Tumblr snowflakes like moths to a light. There's also the whole transtrenders thing.

>I don't think I should take pride in it at all, I just want to be a regular girl.
I don't get why anyone should take pride in it either. The ones that feel the need to constantly tell others that they're trans are weirdos. 'You want to be a girl, you don't want to be transgender' if that makes sense.

You can take hormones discreetly, and try to avoid being labeled trans until you have a reasonable chance at passing.

>>7301136
To an extent that's because being trans tends to indirectly make you like that, with the depression and self-disgust and social ostracism and everything.

>>7301136
Anime always brings out neets. My best friend went to Youmacon last year asked if I could get him 60 of soft he had a room there. I met him driving around Hart Plaza set him some lines circling the Renaissance Center, cops and nerds feet from us. Think about it every time I see it now. I think personally I'm a loser but constantly told I'm not. Just accepted being trans. Ugly. Antisocial. Still have 5 of the coolest friends. Was gifted a car. Spent a night in jail in April. Copped a quarter of coke for my neighbor's mom a while ago. Did 2 tabs of acid at my friends' house for the second presidential debate. Been broke since July. Suffering dysphoria sucks but DAMN if this year hasn't been eventful. Just because you're a bunch of nerds does not have to mean Squaresville.

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>>7301290
They're not me (>>7301025 is me ).

I just can't even be exposed to trans people or anything or hear people talk about it in real life. It makes me cringe and stuff. I think its part of why I hate myself for being trans so much and can't accept it.

I don't want to be like this, I'm disgusted by it and myself, I see trannies even not trying to pass but just mid transition where you can tell they're on hormones and it makes me scared and stuff because if I took hormones I'd probably end up looking like that, not even like a girl just a man on hormones.

>>7301601
>if I took hormones I'd probably end up looking like that, not even like a girl just a man on hormones.
Is that preferable to just looking like a man (which will get far worse over time)? Sure you'd be tolerated by society better but you'd hate yourself even more.

I think it's worth going for the small chance of success with transitioning. What alternative courses of action do you think have a comparable chance to make things better?

Hey I'm a 22/M. Recently, I've been feeling severely depressed and increasingly more anxious as time goes by. I've always had desires to be a woman, and not a man. I always enjoyed doing things people ascribed to women ; and sometimes I get jealous of real women, for, well, being women. They get to have fun, dress well, etc. But I don't get to. I'm somewhat ashamed of being a man in some respects ; I think that in someway if I were born a woman, I'd would be happier. But thing is, I'm not sure if my desires to go MtF is a product of my depression, or if it's legit. Can anyone help? Should I start crossdressing to see if I like it?

>>7301705
>What alternative courses of action do you think have a comparable chance to make things better?

I could kill myself, but that's pretty much it.

>>7301754
It's not like HRT would close that option, so why not try it first?

>>7301754
Then try the only other option (transition) and kill yourself after that if it doesn't work out.

>>7301601
You may not want to be like this, but you are, and you only have 3 options.
>Transition now
>Try to repress everything, but eventually transition anyway
>Suicide

You can take hormones discreetly, stay in boymode for as long as you need to and wear a sports bra to hide your tits (it'll take a few months for them to start growing). Your face and body will feminize, but it will happen slowly enough that the people you see everyday won't notice the changes. You'll also feel happier, and hopefully be able to think more clearly.
Some transgender people take hormones and never socially transition, staying as a guy but reaping the mental benefits of hrt.

If you decide to repress you'll just end up transitioning eventually. You'll regret not starting earlier, when you were younger and actually had a chance of passing. You'll probably end up killing yourself.

You could also just commit suicide now. But why would you, without even trying to improve your current situation? Suicide should be your last resort, for when you've tried to transition but it just hasn't worked. You haven't tried anything yet, so why even consider suicide?

>>7284519
Thanks so much. Is there any way I can contact you personally?

>>7302140

Why would you want to? It's not like I'm an expert.

>>7301778
The funny thing about hrt is the wpath and some endos will talk about how male to female is fully reversible. And for the large part it is, but if you decide to back down after a few years you'll probably be sterile and left with boobs. The former can be mitigated by saving. The latter can be "fixed" with a double masectomy. So yeah, it's undo able.

>>7301136
The majority of trans people you've met are probably old and started recently. Or they're young and crazy and also started recently.

>>7303250
They all seem to be kinda crazy desu. Which concerns me a bit.

>>7303270
They do it to protect themselves.

>>7303334
?

>>7301736
Kinda sounds like your depression might be the product of your gender issues, not the other way around. Trying crossdressing is a decent idea.

The best thing you can do since you are unsure is to make an appointment with a therapist who specializes in gender issues. They can help you explore your concerns far better than we can.

>>7301070
Lots of trans kids are abused because their parents are intolerant of their different behavior. I have good parents and am absolutely transgender.

>>7241658
is having 12 in shoes bad if you wana go trap?

>>7303451
no, it's harder to find shoes in your size but otherwise no

>>7303454
alright thanks, i just hate how big my feet are, i wish i could get them smaller, i would love to be 10 but ohwell

>>7303396

That's what I've been thinking. Before I was depressed, I would have liked to wear a dress for instance, but now I actually imagine myself becoming a woman, and being happy because of that. I know you're not therapists, but you're more knowledgeable about such issues than I am, and, besides, you're less costly than a therapist.

>>7303451
I'm like a 10 or so and it's annoying to find shoes, but possible.

>>7303403
No, I mean like people experiencing sexual abuse as children and then coming out as trans.

I had a psych teacher that told us about a little girl who was abused that she knew that wanted to be a boy, but it ended up being a coping mechanism because she believed her dad wouldn't molest her if she was a boy?

I started taking Spiro about 6 weeks ago. So far so good. Its time to start taking estrofem now, though, and I'm a little nervous. I don't know if I should register with a new GP and ask their advice or what, since I'm kind of anxious to go to a new doctor...

Like, if I go to the doctor, what should I say to them? That I'm not willing to wait 4 years? What if they try to stop me, its kind of nervewracking. I do want to continue but.. I also don't wanna fuck up my health.

>>7304506
You don't have to do anything, though you probably should so you can get blood tests and prescription HRT (cheaper, more reliable with not having to deal with shipping and sites being shut down and everything). You aren't obliged to justify yourself, though they probably will ask you things to make sure you understand what you're doing; they're there to keep you healthy, not to pry into your personal decisions.

>>7303555
You just abswered your own question, your example was not trans after all.

Do hormones change your sexuality? The thought of being attracted to some ugly disgusting man makes me physically ill

>>7305829
Furthermore, people say they become attracted to the smell of the opposite sex when they go on hormones?

Than why are gay people attracted to people that are the same sex as them? I'm confused.

>>7305829
>The thought of being attracted to some ugly disgusting man makes me physically ill

I was worried about that, hearing that hrt supposedly makes you crazy for dick. Nothing's changed though, I still feel no attraction to men.

>>7305829
For some people it does, though there are so many factors it's hard to tell what's going on. Sometimes when it does happen you can put it down to them just becoming more comfortable with themselves, as if they were "really" attracted to guys all along and only then accepted/realised it. Sometime it just changes without much explanation. Sometimes people actively hope for it (and end up experiencing it because of that) because it validates them in some way.

It will likely change how you feel and your outlook on life in some way, like anything else of this nature; HRT and transition is a big deal. Your sexuality won't necessarily change.

Of course if your sexuality does change then you won't be attracted to ugly disgusting men, you'll be attracted to attractive men. And if you just mean men in general, then you probably won't find them disgusting at that point, though you may still feel differently through your own aversion to the idea.

>>7303555

You mean 10 in mens or womens? I had heard that 10.5 women's is the largest size carried by most physical retailers, so I was pretty psyched when I found out I'm a 10.5 in women's Nike shoes. Then I looked to confirm with other brands and found out Nikes are a little larger. So I'm an 11 in most brands. I'm starting to think I should only patronize Nike.

>>7306209
Wrong board, my dude.

>>7241658
not really a big lurker on this board but i guess ill drop some questions.
sometimes i feel a disconnect between my hardheaded nature and my transness. i always liked /m/ stuff with hot blooded protagonists yelling and being generally manly men. i love that kinda stuff but it just feels so....at odds with what i want for myself. i guess question is, anyone else feel the same?

>>7306302
I do. I'm MtF but I love giant robots and over the top toku stuff, but I also love cutesy things.

>>7306172
9.5 in mens iirc.

I found boots that fit me fine at Gabriel Brothers (American closeout store)

>>7306309
how do you deal with that?

>>7306377
I just try to remember that girls can like manly things and guys can like girly things. One of my close (cis lesbian) friends loves Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

>>7306302

>i always liked /m/ stuff with hot blooded protagonists yelling and being generally manly men.

It just means those are the kinds of men you want to get railed by.

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>>7306431
its not just liking them tho. i feel like i want to be them to some degree. i have such a love for this stuff i want to be like it.
>>7306543
idk man, i like my guys thicc. i don't see alot of thicc guys in my ani/m/e except for maybe one or two.

>>7306579
>its not just liking them tho. i feel like i want to be them to some degree. i have such a love for this stuff i want to be like it.
And do you still want to be a girl? You can like and desire elements of something without wanting the whole package, so to speak. Even if you wanted to be super masculine (short of outright being male) that would be fine, and wouldn't mean you weren't really trans or whatever.

>>7306579
>its not just liking them tho. i feel like i want to be them to some degree. i have such a love for this stuff i want to be like it.
That's kind of how I am when I watch cutesy slice of life anime.

>>7306600
yeah i still want to be super feminine. maybe part of this is me making a mountain out of a molehill. there's still plenty of females like all those hotblooded male protags. its like me wanting to be super fabulous but still a badass bitch. thats probably the best way to put it.

>>7306641
Exactly what I was thinking. It seems there's nothing to worry about then.

hey so... I moved away from my shitty abusive family that somehow dug into and controlled my life for far too long. I have every intention of transitioning mtf (as much as possible, ~30yo) but I have no idea how to really do this and have kind of been floundering. I am a lot happier when I dress femme and put on some makeup but I'm also really aware I suck at it and I've been having a lot of dysphoria issues...

I've been severely depressed since puberty and have to do this or die. It took a while for me to understand and a similar amount of time to fully accept. lots of repression and emotional abuse in my conservative christian background. i'm cute enough and am ok with the fact that I'll never 100% pass, I have pretty good facial structure and natural hips but also some broad shoulders and facial hair. I've been talking to girls on dating sites and will be meeting a few soon as friends, though I want to date men when I'm better at being feminine. They might be useful for makeup and fashion advice, and just generally hanging out, but I feel like I really need to make mtf trans friends to facilitate my journey.

so how do I get started? I really feel like I need a friend at a similar place as me in town (denver) but have noo clue how to meet people. I'm pretty anxious about finding a good doctor too... but i think I need to be charging full-steam ahead. I don't really trust the long term health implications of hrt but I'm not sure there are other options (though I dunno what hormones will do for me really?).

sorry I'm so retarded, depression has taken its toll, but thanks for whatever advice I can get

I know a 14 year old who really wants to be trans ASAP. Like, they are 200% sure they want to be trans. Help please.

>>7307399
They should talk to a therapist about it first.

>>7307399
They want to be trans or they want hormones?
A location would help, also, are their parents supportive?

They should see a gender therapist first.

>>7307399
If her parents seem like they'd be supportive, she should talk to them and then find a gender therapist.

If not, she's pretty fucked. She could probably try to start self-medding as soon as she can do it without being found, since consequences of that could be dire, and move out at 18.

Anyone getting tired of being told to just get over it/stop being self-pitying? Like that's not what I'm trying to do? I can't help that I feel like shit all the time, if I could "get over it" I fucking would.

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>>7305668
Thanks, will try to work up the courage.