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>>7241647
tomoko a cute even as a slice of bread

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If I was really a girl who do I keep missing Spiro?

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>>7241647
>/mtfg/ is a man

https://youtu.be/tFL1UXuHJ-A
>when you get clocked

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>>7241585
I much prefer era of "the matriarchy of Eve Prime" in the 2540s, a warrior race of all female Human colonists who subjugated the Males of Humanity with superhuman women and machines, who now wage war across the galaxy capturing settlements, conscripting original biological females into the warrior caste and assimilating biological makes into the submissive wife and homemaker female castes who can choose to be serviced by android men designed to perfectly simulate male lovers, but try to insight rebellion or subvert female rule.

>The Sol Incursion:2567
The Patriarchy of Adam makes its final military stand on the Fortress World of Mars, it's was bloodbath. Males not protected by power armour were soon hit by the Matriarchys secret weapon, the Dysphoria ray, which compelled male soldiers to defect for the promise of relief from their new found identity crisis.

Millions were lost on the first day and desperately joined the females. The more stubborn were taken down by the elite commando Units.

Commander Aegis made his final stand in the control room and said he would never lose to "mere females"

As she fired Estrogen Nanites into his body, High Matriarch Athena laughed.

"But you will lose to cock"

Commander Aegis now goes by the name Penny and has 4 daughters who she loves and is married to Steven the Mandroid and is embarrassed at her previous selfs resistance to this sociey

elanna is a homosexual woman do not believe her lies

>>7241647
you fogot the thread name, get your shit together.

>>7241630
>>7241644
Alex, if you're still there.

>>7241581
>i just wanna be normal
You are normal. You are you. Embody you. Define you. Be you.

I really need to get my shit together and get a job so I can afford insurance so I can get srs

>>7241672
I'm sure there's a less silly way to convey the same feeling.

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>My only significant accomplishment in life will be transitioning.

Which trip would make the best sister?

>>7241675
Nobody will dare to insult you if you open carry an M4?

>>7241669
Well I'm either killing myself or getting locked up
can't get laser from the psych ward >~<

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>>7241672
that's
actually really good anon
here i am lamenting what im not
but why
its silly
you're right
im me
i shouldnt be anything or anyone else
>>7241684
>M4
there's better fashion accessory rifles out there

>>7241679
then i'll see you in hell i guess

and again, good bye everyone im sorry for making anyone's life i was in worse

>>7241685
Oh... I'm sorry to hear that. Where are you at Alex maybe I could help?

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I want to kiss a girl.

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>>7241642
I went through a religious neocon phase. ;~;

>>7241646
If that were my introduction to trannus I'd repress too

>>7241648
Speak for yourself

>>7241654
Grace ;~;
It honestly hurts to think about when I think about what I could have been if I'd been cis, regardless of if I were a girl or a boy. I'd have left my teens knowing a lot more about who I was and how to socialize. I'd probably never have turned into a drug addict. I'd not have wasted my early 20s wallowing in dysphoria and self hatred.

Seeing where former cis friends are in life right now is painful. I'm 25, and just barely stepping out in the world, just barely learning to contain my insecurities, and just barely starting to feel like a complete person after effectively coming into existence 6 years ago. I had to spend the time that most people are experiencing their first glimpse of freedom from parents fighting to even be seen as the right gender. Fast forward to now, I see friends getting married, buying houses, making close to 6 figures and I just know I would have been there too if I'd just been normal.

This existence is so hard. I wish nobody had to go through it, but the worst does get better. You just have to keep pressing forward.

>>7241688
>there's better fashion accessory rifles out there
shit taste
you'll never pass like that

Is it possible to be so passable after SRS that no one would know you're a tranny even your husband?

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>>7241689
Stay!

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>>7241692
i want to kiss a boy.

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>>7241667
I am not a lesbian!

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>>7241697
The commie phase was pretty embarassing, I was kind of an SJW, then I went through an ironic edgy Nazi phase.

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>>7241660
when are you getting ffs, srs and a boyfriend?

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>>7241707
You can kiss me, I'll be a girl eventually but for now I'm just a tall boy.

>>7241700
>I swear honey, I don't know why I'm not getting pregnant!
>That knot in my throat? It must be cancer, don't pay attention to it.

>>7241702
there is no place for me in this world

>>7241698
Not even joking the Famas is pretty /fa/

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>>7241698
>disliking the world's most generic (position vs AK debatable) and mediocre rifle
>shit taste
Sry but you need to git gud not sry

>>7241716
Right here

elanna is a lesbian

>>7241689
You really shouldn't kill yourself anon
I'm sorry I can't help you more, usually i can
You don't deserve to die, your life can get better still >~<

>>7241690
Thanks
I'm on Long Island
I don't think anyone can help me I really just want to die
thanks tho

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>>7241720
Grace, which rifle would suit me best?

>>7241720
>Sry but you need to git gud not srs
ftfy

>>7241723
Elanna is actually my literal aunt and I'm here just to keep tabs on her.

>>7241721
i am not welcomed here
>>7241725
there is no point to living, life never gets better, i can't bare to suffer more

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My nipples now point in different directions. Is this how it begins? Am I gonna grow weird looking tranny boobs now?

>>7241727
you cant even own an airsoft rifle in australia
there was one I saw on /k/ a few months ago that was the AR platform but modified to be technically legal in australia but I can't remember its name

>>7241734
yep, they'll point outwards

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>remember when i was a kid my dad would say if I didn't close or door or respond to him from upstairs he would say
>"if you don't Do "x" then you will grow up to be called "girlname" and marry "manname" and have two children called "etc"

Wtf dad.

>>7241725
I'm not close enough to be able to help. I might have been able to help if I didn't move back in with grandparents. I could have used the excuse of visiting my little sister too.

>>7241739
he wanted you to be a neet

>>7241739
y-you shouldn't have closed the door or answered him Amy

>>7241733
It does get better though
It got immensely better for me when i started hormones, but...
incredibly worse for me recently

I know life can get better, but I want to die anyway. I'm sick of the hurting.

>>7241739
wtf

>>7241740
Sorry anon ;_;

>>7241740
We could have all hung out on long island. idk what there is to do on long island, but I'm sure you know the places.

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>>7241723
I'm straigghttttt stop this

>>7241709
Idk, in retrospect basically every teen phase that I went through was pretty cringey, but I think that applies to everyone.

Grace if you're here Im sorry I upset you, I just wanted to talk and didn't know you were going through something yourself, please don't be upset with me.

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>>7241741
I remember wearing a girls shirt at a sleepover once.

I liked it.

grace if you're here please have sex with me i'm desperate

>>7241744
I think that bastard has memed me with subconscious reinforcement...


>>7241746
Ikr

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>>7241697
honestly
like
transition has helped me grow up so much it's crazy for me to think about how mentally immature i was before yet i had no awareness of the fact at the time
and even now like, i'm 20 yet mentally im catching up with teenagers
i still have no idea how to socialize irl
i still have a lot of things to work out
i just
i dont even know i feel so out of touch and my head's under water with the rest of the world
im only safe here because ive grown up with this shit so i know a little bit about how to handle myself

i dont know what boy me would have done
because there isnt one
cis girl me would probably be in the army right now, proudly serving her country and earning free college tuition so she could go on to be a therapist once her time is up
im sorry
i wish i could write something better i just
my head's cutting out tonight

>>7241746
It's ok. I'll be close enough to New York to actually visit you soon, and I'll be starting transitioning then too. I'm wanting to start before I move out of my grandparents place, but idk the probability of that yet... The wait is killing me.

Grace if you're here I like you a lot and would probably try to kiss you if we were close friends and spent a lot of time sitting close together on a couch.

>>7241762
hugg

grace if you're here please keep working to be happy
also, I might forgotten my my cellphone charger a bag of weed and/or a dragon dildo at your house so, you know, if you see them, like, drop me a call or whatever.

>>7241752
I remember asking my mom to wear her only skirt once.
I searched the whole house multiple times and never found it, I remember really liking it.

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>>7241752
d-did you kiss any boys? :3
or was it a girls only sleepover?

>>7241762
If you don't mind me asking what immaturity are you aware of now?

>>7241762
I'm pretty sure those are just "person in their 20s" feels more than trans or cis feels.

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>>7241751
So a few people messaged me tonight while I've been feeling like shit
I told the first one I can't talk right now and he laughed at me, so I removed him.
I didn't reply to you because I don't have the fucking capacity to support you right now
I'm sorry
You were a friend of mine but I'm not a depression hotline
You don't fucking guilt me for being unable to do that
I won't put up with that shit, nobody makes me feel like shit.
>>7241756
sure.
>>7241727
Well you avatarfag as tomoko
My assumptions about her are that she's weak and would be the type to spray and pray
Or be really good and snipe
Get yourself a compact SMG of some sort, MPX is the new hot shit.

>>7241746
it never gets better
im just going to die and be done with it good bye

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Hey everyone how's everyone's night (or morning) going?

I did my makeup really cute for a trans day of remembrance vigil today and wanted to share :)
https://unsee
.cc/timugaso/

>tfw you exchange clothes with your ex girlfriend.
>tfw she stole your jeans, but you got her shirt.
>the moment you realize jeans are more expensive than shirts and you got the shitty deal.
>The look on her face when you blow her new love interest and send her picks.
vengeance is sweet.

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Is it just me or do a lot of trans people seem to have like... Pretty extreme views? Maybe extreme is the wrong word but... I've come across so many who are hella SJW, hella racist etc. Doesn't seem to be many that's kinda like, inbetween and chill. Just muh own experience though.

grace is my mom irl

>>7241783
It's the extreme ones that are the most vocal. The indifferent ones generally don't say much.

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>>7241766
hugg
>>7241764
thanks anon
if i were in a better mood id probably reply more cutesy and stuff but im not rn lol
>>7241768
>grace if you're here please keep working to be happy
<3
>also, I might forgotten my my cellphone charger a bag of weed and/or a dragon dildo at your house so, you know, if you see them, like, drop me a call or whatever.
Oh, they weren't gifts? I've been uh, using them..
>>7241771
There's a lot I'm aware of now, I don't really know how to explain it, I'm sorry.
>>7241773
i dont know
i feel like im fucking autistic or something as far as social development goes
im okay with how behind i am career/school wise because i know why its that way, at least, and ill be working on it soon enough.
>>7241784
Go to bed

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>>7241735
Very strict laws here and all because some autist shot up a place ;-;

>>7241749
Yeah but I can't help but laugh and cringe at myself.

>>7241774
But I want a rifle, especially a WW1 rifle.

>>7241763
Good luck with your transition anon
I probably won't be me anymore if I'm even still alive
So this is the only time we're probably gonna talk :/

>>7241778
You're braver than me, anon
I wish you'd chicken out and not do it
love you

>>7241779
I want to die all the time

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>>7241762
It's a massive burden, you're pretty much being saddled with coming into existence and trying to mature while at the same time being years and years behind your peers.

This shit takes time. While I think it's ok to acknowledge what could have been, fixating on it is just being needlessly cruel to yourself. Those lives where you were cis aren't real, and you'll drive yourself nuts if you focus on what life would have been like

You're here now, and you're growing, and you're making progress. A year from now you'll still be growing. Hell, years from now you'll be growing. You will get to a place where you can be happy and actually feel like a full fledged functional adult. It will just take time.

Being trans is a setback. It's not a game ender.

>>7241780
>ywn cuck your ex gf by blowing her potential new boyfriend
worst feeling

>>7241774
Then just say that, say you don't have it in you tonight. You can't expect someone to know everything if you don't tell them. I'll be here if you want to add me back, but if you want not to thats fine you take care of yourself please.

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>>7241790
could always go for a mosin, there's a reason there's so many and they've been used for so long

>>7241793
you don't love me nobody does

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>>7241800
You're right, I should have said something, yes. But you STILL shouldn't try to guilt me even under normal circumstances. That's manipulative as fuck and I've had enough of people pushing my emotions around.

>>7241788
Makes sense, thx anon. C:

>>7241770
It was actually. all girls i was friends with when I was really young. And then when repression kicked in a never really got that socialisation back

>>7241768
When I was young my bedroom had satin duvet thing that has a nice sequin pattern on it

When no one was around I would wrap it round till it looked like a dress.

>kiss any boys
I did that when I was five lel

>>7241789
Stop ruining the use life of my charger!
Also, really, a lot of those feelings are pretty normal 20's stuff, what assholes call a quarter of life crisis. You are recognizing how much you've mature in the last years and wishing you could had known all of that before having learned it. You'll work that out.

grace and elanna are my moms

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>>7241802
What about an SMLE? Though Mosins are pretty nice.

>>7241800
>friend feels like shit
>blame them for not helping them
>trying to manipulate you
all around pretty low, girl.

>>7241802
okay, now I aprove your taste.

>>7241812
I used to improvise dresses a lot!
I think my parents though I was playing superman. I do like supes a lot.

>>7241806
Since when do you tell me what I feel?
If I say I love you, I love you.

I love everybody ^w^

>>7241807
Being depressed sucks for everyone. Im sorry for what I did. Take care of you, Im gonna lie down. Good night Gracie.

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>>7241813
>Stop ruining the use life of my charger!
No
I need a new one ;_;
>years
Not even.
I stagnated as a male. I didn't progress.
As soon as transition came around a fucking ton happened as far as maturing and developing. It's still happening, I have specific things I can think of right now that I need to work on.
>>7241818
I like Enfields better, that's a good idea. Sorry I'm not like
a gun expert normally
and right now my mind isnt really on them lol
>>7241824
My taste is good.

>>7241825
alex a cute

>>7241802
I want a mosin with a picatinny rail, a cheap amazon iron sight and to strip the wooden hardware of its gloss and redo it with boiled linseed oil and basically make love to it...

>>7241789
Don't worry about it, I know stuff can be hard to explain. I hate it, but it's not your fault or anything
I just feel like I haven't matured any, so I was hoping I might be able to understand better

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>>7241832
>I want a mosin with a picatinny rail
What the FUCK are you doing

>>7241812
>all girls i was friends with when I was really young. And then when repression kicked in a never really got that socialisation back
hello me

>>7241818
why are you ashamed of ur commie phase

>>7241793
If you're still holding out. I'll try to reach out when I can.
>>7241799
Everyone but her and the boy thought it was funny. They hate me now, but I don't care much about what they think of me.
>>7241809
Yeah, I'm usually in the, Don't care enough to say anything camp.

>>7241824
I didn't know she felt like shit, I would have been there for her if I did know.

>>7241839
Communism is literally "fuck u mom and dad, I can do what I want" the ideology

Would you be okay being replace by a robot that's you but passes perfectly a la Stepford Wives?

>>7241830
It's tied to transition to all of the people itt, but cis people go through very similar feelings. It's reaching the time you were supposed to have an independent fun tv-like life, and at the same time it's when you start developing an understanding of how things work and how you can achieve things and what things you shouldn't do.
It's growing up, Gracy.

>>7241836
being a motherfucking memelord
I also want a 7.62x51mm nato AR and a 10mm 1911

>>7241845
Communism will win.

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>>7241839
It wasn't really Communism, it was more of a shitty edgy SJW kind of champagne socialism/

>>7241830
It's probs the Rifle my Great-Great Grandfather used in the Great War desu.

>>7241827
You also sound like me
everyone depressed sounds like me

you feel better too, anon who was talking to grace ^^

>>7241831
whoa, hey carol!
Ty ^///^

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>>7241790
I'm so glad thinking of being a teenager doesn't make me cringe anymore, there's enough distance now

>>7241839
I liked a commie boy in high school, but he was dating a busty Italian girl, and wasn't gay enough to deal with a boy. Plus I think they're married and I didn't even have a chance. He was really smart.

>>7241836
>>7241850
how do the /k/ girls feel about Shuumatsu no Izetta?

>>7241845
so you never read anything about it then?

>>7241845
Yeah but so is being a tranny.

>>7241795
>It's a massive burden, you're pretty much being saddled with coming into existence and trying to mature while at the same time being years and years behind your peers.
yeah i think we've talked about how insecure and inadequate i feel for having little to no girl skills yet girls younger than i are miles better
>Those lives where you were cis aren't real, and you'll drive yourself nuts if you focus on what life would have been like
I really will, I gotta stop that.
>Being trans is a setback. It's not a game ender.
Thank you Elanna.

>>7241857
love u mom

>>7241863
love you mom

>>7241862
I kek'd

>>7241859
Comunists are inherently attracted to italy.

>>7241841
Sure, anon, thanks <3

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I am a strong black shemale.

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>>7241850
>being a motherfucking memelord
I will shoot you with this.
>>7241860
I like alternate-ww2 as a setting so I've been meaning to check it out.
>>7241867
Love you too little one.
>>7241873
Three cheers for anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNi48f567E

>>7241857
I just learned to laugh at myself I guess.

>>7241852
>>7241860
>>7241862
"down with the system! Stalin and Mao cared about people unlike Trump! "

>>7241863
Idk, I know we've talked about this before, and hell even this past week I was feeling hella insecure about how far behind I am, even years after transition. It doesn't go away overnight, hell I'm not sure it does completely go away, but we have to learn to make peace with it. I hope that you feel better grace

>>7241876
Same, I make fun of myself a lot

>>7241864
hugg <3

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>>7241878
I'm pretty sure commie guys we met in HS didn't know what trump was.
And, you know, that's unrelated to anything

>>7241874
there's a lot of grinding against hot anti tank rifles.

my brain is sad

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>>7241878
>stalin
>mao

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>>7241812
>It was actually. all girls i was friends with when I was really young. And then when repression kicked in a never really got that socialisation back
Amy a cute :3

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good morning

>tfw you tried to be friends with girls but they bullied you away

>>7241871
Lol, he was also an atheist. I like people that are seemingly smart so I fall for autists and fedora tippers a lot. They are able to have interesting conversations, and I'm able to tease them easily. I also like actual smart people, but anyone that can hold my attention for 2 hours talking about anything I'll fall for.
>>7241872
I'm looking forward to it. Plus it might be a good way to come out to my little sister.

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>>7241894
Same.

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>>7241882
You're right
are you stuck with anyone that makes your insecurity worse?
my sister likes to give me shit sometimes for how inept I am at being a girl and it's both hurtful and helpful. I learn new things but I feel like shit because she's berating me for being pic related.
Its hard to live with.

>>7241874
>I will shoot you with this.
m-mean

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I wish I was a man.

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>>7241900
'tis the only way
Tactical classic weaponry is a fucking sin.

>>7241907
>>7241901
>>7241900
I have an intense feeling of deja vu with these three posts.

>>7241887
same
except
every part of me
is suicidal

>>7241892
I like your meme
good morning ^^

>>7241897
hehe, yeah maybe! Thank you for being sweet, anon.

Is anyone getting the new Pokemon games? Which version did/will you get? I got moon.

>>7241916
Can I play them on my Gameboy?

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>>7241874
This pic pisses me off more than it should.

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>>7241912
Unless I'm not actually in reality which I've been concerned about lately, I'm pretty sure this is the first time these posts have happened.
But who knows, maybe I'm in a fucking coma right now or my mind interprets everything differently than what's actually happening.

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Holy fuck it's cold out tonight. I'm gonna have to say fuck it and start stinking up my room soon. Winter sucks.

>>7241919
gameboys are outdated D:

>>7241916
I'm too poor to afford a game system for them, or the game itself

>>7241922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2uXBD1AJWc
I don't know why people think damaging history is a good idea.

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>>7241890
That hrt is sounding better and better

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>tfw you had a fragile brittle male socialization
>tfw after coming out and starting transition, it fell apart and you actively regressed in your social development to the point where you were barely able to speak to people

>>7241899
Idk, I've never had to deal with someone actively criticizing my ability to girl. My sister does make me insecure though, mostly because there's not a lot of ways that she's not straight up better than I am. I'm the family fuckup scraping by on minimum wage, she has a master's degree and is married.

That really sucks though have you talked to her about it?

>>7241907
n-no bully, its just because I want to easily swap sights

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>>7241929
>Desecrating the piece of art that is the Thompson submachine gun
I hope these people are out of business.

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>>7241933
Honestly if you just wanna put a scope on it it's w/e
but just dont be like this

>>7241915
I like going to New York because it means I get to see Niagara falls, Toronto, and my sister.
>>7241919
only 3ds sorry...
>>7241923
idk I just got deja vu.
>>7241926
I save my change to buy stuff I want but don't really need. Plus I'm a workaholic and regularly work 2-3 jobs.

>>7241947
What about shooting things that were never intended by the original manufacturer. Like casting a 45mm Brenner slug for a punt gun.
https://youtu.be/E8pO_mYS4_Y

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REAL German hours
who /up/
SMASH that mf like-button

>>7241957
Brenneke. Stupid autocorrect.

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i think i need to go to bed, tonight got even weirder
goodnight everyone

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Haha, get fucked dudes this is what a real woman looks like
https://my.mixtape.moe/qmkqqs.webm

threads like these make me so fucking angry

chasers are disgusting holy shit

>>7240910

>>7241958
I'll smash your like button.

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>>7241958
Deutsch Zeit.

>>7241958
I'm still /down/

>>7241964
They are pretty disgusting people, yeah.

>>7241958
Deutschland uber alles

>>7241958
is that an h3h3 reference?

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>>7241965
w-wow anon
fun fact: I woke up panting and with soaked panties

>>7241966
Genau das!

>>7241967
time to become an /up/time girl

>>7241969
the good old times

>>7241971
not intentionally, Idk what that is D:

>>7241974
Why were your panties soaked?

>>7241974
Bettnässerphie D:
And I don't want to get up ;_;

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>>7241958
This image is my life

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>>7241974
Es ist immer Deustch zeit meine Kaiserrin (I bet I screwed that sentence up so badly)

>>7241974
they say the smash the mf like button thing
anyway, I needed a dose of Phien to go to sleep and now I got my hit.

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>>7241979
lewd dreams

>>7241982
>Bettnässerphie D:

panties, not bed reeee

>>7241983
same tbqh

>>7241984
no its mostly correct
I really wish I was instead of going to uni for 8 hours tho

>>7241985
ohhh
no I am just riding the memewave without knowing where it came from

>>7241961
thats me

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>>7241988
Oh wow, I thought I fucked it up.
Anyways, viel glücke mit Uni.

>>7241932
>girlmode
its very difficult
scared, anxious, lonely - it makes me wonder if i'm trans or not
i know i can do better as a guy

>>7241961
>.............. oi.

>>7241974
:3

>>7241988
describe your lewd dreams

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>EAT PILL
>BECOME GRILL
IT'S SO EASY

>>7241923
I'm not real lmao

>>7241950
I hope you can come soon, that way I'll be here too ^^

>>7242006
hugg alex

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>>7241990
Danke!

>>7241999
but I am /innnocent catholic girl/

>>7241959
Oh uhm, how do I convince the psych ward to let me keep taking hrt, if i'm only self-medding? Can I even?

>>7242007
hugg carol ;-;

>>7241958
But it's morning in Deutschland

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>>7241948
thats digusting ._.
I want to refinish the wood with boiled linseed oil which not only looks amazing but also makes the wood easier to grip.

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>>7241994
These feelings made me honestly consider detransitioning when I had them. Even if I was an absolute mess as a guy, at least I knew what was expected of me, and didn't have to fear people who might take exception to me being trans. That regression in ability to socialize and function made me worry I wasn't actually trans.

It will pass. You just need to give it time. You're confusing insecurity and inexperience with a decrease in overall happiness

>>7242006
>>7242010
I hope you'll be fine after the psych ward.
Talk to a psych about it and get them to give you hrt legitimately.

>>7242017
w-who??

I *REALLY* don't want to go but I don't know what else I can do ;~;
I never asked to be fucked up
Well I did but
I was already fucked up >~>

A psych won't give it to me, I can't risk stopping I've only been self-medding to this point ;-;

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>tfw you see your shitpost on a decently sized facebook page
the fames getting to me

>>7242022
They will, just stop worrying. Just go check yourself in and everything will be fine soon enough.

>tfw would never go to a psych ward or even a psychologist because I hate drawing attention to myself

It's like I was destined to repress forever

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>>7241931

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>>7242026
I got a psych by accident.

>>7241659
Cause taking meds is hard to keep track of, it's ,k, ur still a girl

>>7242022
Why wouldn't a Psych give you titty skittles? Even if you don't trust them getting a psych on your side will make your psych ward visit better.

>>7242010
Well, I had a script when I got in. You might want to see a GP before it gets to signing yourself in if it gets to that.
I was also full-time, but pre-op and with my ID unchanged, which is how I got a single room, to avoid awkward slip-ups.
If you can see a friendly GP, ask them to regularize your self-medding with a script and to help negotiate your stay conditions at the hospital, especially letting you stay on hormones and using your female identity.
Might work or not, it was a life and death situation for me so they were ready to accept that rather than letting me go back to withering.
You might want to ask a local LGBT group for addresses of GPs. The one who first wrote my script no questions asked I was sent to by a FtM friend. She had no experience with MtFs so she just signed what I was already taking.

>>7242023
FAMOUS OwO

>>7242025
They
actually
won't tho
I'm pretty sure you don't just get HRT by going to a psych ward that's not how it works!!! >~<

Nothing will ever be fine desu
The people who made me feel fine either abandoned me or I betrayed them
I need to die

>>7242026
Just selfmed or do informed consent dumby

who /doesntwanttogetoutofbed/ here?

>>7242030
Story?

God I'm so drunk lol

This fucking cunt assaulted my ftm friend and I got up in her face and she tried choking me too but I grabbed her throat and shoved her and even though I wS Presenting as male the bartender was like hell yeah, what she did is a hate crime, high five, cause me and my head chef always tip well as fuck

most drunk I've been in like ten months because I decided to stay at the bar cause there were a shitton of trans ppl and make sure she didn't cause any more toruble

>>7242035
If they don't they'll at least get you in to see someone that will. If you're in a ward they might even have them come to you.

>>7242040
quite the T filled story

>>7242038
always & forever

>>7242040
go to bed quid you're rambling

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>>7242038
I've been in bed all day.

>>7242039
Basically my mother found my cut marks and got me a psych. I hid them as best as I could.

>>7242032
HRT isn't psychiatric treatment at this point, so it's unlikely they'll prescribe it directly. They'd refer you to a GP or endo. Flip side is that if you're already on it, they're not supposed to stop it since it's considered a somatic treatment.

>>7242032
They won't because I've been selfmedding for 3 months and they'll be like
"ur not trutrans faggot!"
And then they'll put me on antipsychotics and ECT.

I was in there, they were giving me shit for self-medding and talking over me at every opportunity ;-;

I just shouldn't go, it's not safe I'm being retarded by considering it...

>>7242034
Thank you, I
This will be helpful thanks <3

>>7242045
My mother found my cut marks and was just like "Yeah okay my son is fucked" because I've always been like this

>>7242046
Don't you need a psych to sign off on it though? If not Alex should listen to your advice.
>>7242049
I don't know what to say. You're going to commit yourself because you're suicidal right? Aren't there suicide support groups that could help you out?

>>7242040
ya fite fite fite ^w^

>>7242041
Will they really help me with trans stuff? Even if that's not what I'm there for?

What about all the time until I see their gatekeeper though?? ;~;

>>7242046
So since I'm already on HRT they're not gonna stop giving it to me?

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>>7242051
Wow, such a caring mother.

>>7242056
GPs prescribe E and P for menopause and AAs for BPD all the time without a shrink involved. Unlike T for FtMs, what we take isn't strictly controlled or unusual medication.

>>7242064
So a quick ticket to hrt is just go to a pro-trans GP?

>>7242056
unstable mood, suicidal ideation
crying all day and missing classes
voices in my head
cutting
I can't handle life right now I'm too sad ;-;
And everybody keeps pushing me to go, like, everybody...

Idk any suicide support groups :/

>>7242058
If you can show a script for it, it's not within their scope to discontinue it, just like they're not allowed to discontinue asthma or diabetes treatment. Not their business at this point. Self-medding, I wouldn't be so sure. So see if you can negotiate a script somewhere.

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my dad is trying to scare me off transitioning. do any of you have regrets about starting HRT?

>>7242070
If the script runs out though, will they stop providing treatment? Or can they not do that?

Like I'm prescribed a week's worth of hrt, will they only provide it for a week?

>>7242071
I regret not killing myself as a child

but no, starting hrt was one of the only things I ever did that wasn't a mistake
no regrets

>>7242071
only that I didn't start it a long time ago

>>7242066
That's what I did after a year of self-medding, yeah. She wasn't even pro-trans, just LGBT friendly. Many of her patients are cis lesbians who are tired of getting crap from gynos or other GPs for their orientation.
Like I said, though, I was full-time. Pretty sure that factored in.

>>7242073
Nah, they're allowed to renew long-term treatments. A script for HRT won't be for a week, too. Most likely between one and three months.

ugh i feel awful again
my mom is getting pissy
because i was too tired to speak to CAMHS last time
and going on about my moods or something
ugh

>>7242073
They'll make sure you can get in touch with a doctor to get a new script. Also, they'll 100% help you with trans stuff, it's their job to help you be mentally healthy, whatever that requires. Just because someone walks in the door saying they're an addict that wants to get clean doesn't mean a week later when they say they're having halucinations they'll just say it's not their problem.

>>7241743
Jesus Christ I hate being a tranny.

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>>7242082
I read that as your mum is getting pussy.
Hope you feel better though.

>>7242080
Are they like... required to renew it though?
Like they can't stop providing a prescribed medicine, but when the script runs out do they *have* to renew?

Sorry for all the questions ;-;
I'm probably annoying you ;~;

>>7242082
Your mom needs to stop hurting you.
I'll bite her.

>>7242085
So they'll put me in touch with an endo gatekeeper after I had a script from an informed consent doctor.
wew.

Could I refuse treatment for stuffs tho?
Like if I just want my depression to fuck off, but I don't want them to even diagnose my bipolar, will they respect that?

>>7242069
>https://afsp.org/find-support/ive-lost-someone/find-a-support-group/?gmw_address%5B0%5D=long%20island%20new%20york&gmw_post=support_group&gmw_form=2&gmw_per_page=50&gmw_lat&gmw_lng&gmw_px=pt&action=gmw_post&gmw_distance=60&gmw_units=imperial&gmw_state
idk if this is specifically prevention or loss of loved one to suicide, but it's a good place to start. Some of them do deal with prevention though.
>>7242078
Oh... I don't trust myself to self med. Do I still have a chance? Getting hrt legitimately is confusing.

>>7242096
Thanks <3

Informed consent works, so does battling gatekeepers.
Sometimes a GP will prescribe it if you're lucky.

Self med is ez tho

>>7242099
It seems easy enough, I just don't trust myself; when I could have a doctor help me.

>>7242091
You ever think we were starting to get somewhere in society, but these SJW fags showed up and just dragged us right back into pariah zone?

>>7242095
Yeah, they're supposed to renew ongoing somatic treatments if the script runs out while you're in. The hospital pharmacy will also stock it.

>>7242096
Well, self-medding can be used to leverage a script but so can being full-time. If getting laser and using makeup before getting HRT sounds better than self-medding, it definitely helps too.

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Does massaging actually help with breast growth? What kind of massages?

>>7242042
Nah he literally came over to the pizza shop right after close crying about how this woman choked him

it's just how I am

At the end of it she was fucking sobbing and offering to buy me a drink when I wasn't even the one she assaulted lmao

>>7242044
sry

got a bunch of dish to do tho, drinking lime two cups of coffee rn lol

>>7242058
FIGHT FIFTH FIGHT

Nah I felt bad by the end of it, she was clearly just super smashed and never would have done it in her right mind based on how much she fucking clinged onto me afterwards just like saying sorry over and over lol

>>7242095
If it's informed xonsent you're set. Tyyyle refill your medication no matter what.

>>7242095
If you got it from confirmed consent they'll get you in touch with them again. Idk about the bipolar thing, if it's not seriously screwing you up they will probably let you not med for it, but it's very possible that your depression stems from it.

>>7242107
So if I'm working on my voice and get laser I should be ok? I don't really like make up, it makes me break out. I only use it to cosplay.

>>7242104
Queers were prominent long before SJWs were a thing, you know... Started in the 20s, then there was a big comeback to it in the 70s and 80s...

>>7242118
Well, whatever helps make you comfortable enough to present female in daily life, really. Not all girls wear makeup and it's not really needed if your skin is still young and you don't have beard shadow to hide anymore.

>>7242121
Yeah, that's not really my point. I'm saying people used to be sort of normal around me until the SJW's hit it big. Now people seem like they think I have a gun to their heads if they say something wrong around me.

>>7242127
I have red and blonde facial hair so I don't get beard shadow. Presenting female without hrt is stressful, and I don't want to feel like a cross dresser. The entire transitioning thing is stressful. I don't care how I look. I just don't want to be disgusting and repulsive.

Has anyone heard from kiwi since her last message? It was kind of troubling.

>>7242136
What!? Is kiwi ok?

>>7242107
>>7242111
YAY ^^

>>7242112
Idk I mean
they might think it's a problem but
maybe I can hide it from them?
The bipolar i mean

>>7242137
she has no sharp things but she also needs someone to move in with

>>7242139
I wouldn't try to hide it from them, it can lead to misdiagnosis and making things worse. Just be honest about how you're worried treating it will change you in a way you don't like. Maybe they'll respect your wishes, maybe they'll be able to allieviate your fears.

>>7242137
I tried messaging her but I didn't get a response

>>7242131
That's another problem, but one you can dispel if you're cool about it. Don't project crazy sjw vibes and people are comfortable.

>>7242133
HRT takes months if not years to fully take effect, you'll probably want to be full-time before that anyway. It can be harsh adjusting at the start but you quickly get used to it and it just gets natural the longer you dig in in living as a girl.

>>7242109
qt massages
>>7242136
she's offline idk
>>7242144
same

bluh i shouldve just ordered shirley temples or something lmfao if iwanted to stay there to watch her

i dont like being this drunk

ripf[spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm really dizzy and tired and have been all day, I hope I'm dying
time to sleep

>>7242150
no sheen no dying not allow

>>7242146
I hope she's not sleeping on a bench somewhere.

cute world where cute things happen

>>7242144
Hopefully she's just asleep.
>>7242145
... I knew hrt took long. I was thinking about taking it slow, and only start adjusting to girl as I was taking hrt. It's just so stress inducing and frightening. I think just keep working on my voice and body hair and go from there.

>>7242156
I doubt it, I don't think cordi would do that and she has other friends in the area. Would call some1

>>7242136
idk :s

i messsaged her some <3 and stuff and we talked brieflhy but she's goen now

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>>7242157
my cute world is desolate

>>7242145
I tend to think I'm pretty relaxed and generally give off a vibe that I don't give a fuck what people say around me. At least where I live, it's a societal thing. It's almost rare for me to meet someone who hasn't drunk the Kool-Aid.

>>7242160
yeah

>>7242157
:3 :3

>>7242143
Homesty is not uhh
Not a thing i do lots

>>7242158
If you can, spend time with girls, you'll pick up a lot without even thinking about it.

>>7242162
Fukken hugg maeve >~<

>>7242165
im sorry i was so aggressive and stuff but

if you ust go to a therapist and don't say anything too "scary" you're really safe, i promise

meds or not a good therapist helps LOT just to talk with and shit

>>7242164
what'd she say to u o:

>>7242173
lol literally nothing

i said i get she probably doesn't wanna talk about it but i just wanted to send her love and let her know she's a cool af person

and she was like ty

that was about it

>>7242162

Quick do something cute!

>>7242164
:3 :3

>>7242163
These days, I'm pretty much treated as just another woman except where I have to show ID, so I don't really have to deal with that.

>>7242173
i mean, not lol, i'm just smashed as fuck right now

hope she's ok :s

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>google something mtf related that I'm confused about
>first result is susans

>>7242167
Most of my friends are already girls, and I find boys behaviour generally too tiresome to deal with. I'm not so frightened by getting the mannerisms down as I am with people thinking I'm disgusting.

why hasnt the world ended yet

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>>7242175

>>7242178
i fucking hate that

there really needs to be better resources for trans girls starting out fml

fck susans

>>7242180
Trump and Putin haven't started their plans for world conquest yet.

>>7242176
Oh, I pass, I'm just not stealth, and sometimes it comes up in conversation.

>>7242178
hey what was your question though?

if we cant answer it trans help general should be good for it

>>7242181
The worst part is so little of the advice there matters to younger transitioners, the people there are on average 40+...

>>7242183
ok
i want daddy to kill me

>>7242188
Yep

and they fucking outlaw any talk about self-medding like what the fuck

it's terrinle

>>7242178
That's not exactly a reliable source, yeah.

>>7242179
Most people won't even notice a thing. It was a bit surprising at first for me, but people aren't that aware.

>>7242181
Is Susan's bad? I was glancing at it earlier while looking into voice training and it didn't seem too bad, but I didn't read much of it.

>>7242172
Its fine, dw <3

I really dont feel safe, im sorry ;;

I... maybe, idk. It just hurts so much, being out here.

>>7242189
Sad and bad ;_;

>>7242195
im rlly sick
and i feel like death

>>7242194
They have a rather horrible mindset. They worship gatekeeping, reject self-medding altogether and consider transwomen should conform to antiquated stereotypes of femininity.

>>7242196
No die
Heal and hug and love
But not death

aftermath:

"Man [boyname] has some fucking balls, tiny fucker tries to deny it but that motherfucker goes hard"

very complicated feel

>>7242199
nobody to hug
tho
or love
uwu

:( I just want to be full-time s bad

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>>7242071 here.
I'm having trouble convincing my dad that I'm actually serious. I gave him some stuff to read like that awesome peer reviewed article about development, and he didn't even touch it. He says he "supports" me, but he's definitely trying to scare me out of it when we talked afterwards. Any advice on what I can do to convince him I'm serious and this is what I want?

>>7242186
Just this, >>7242109

I don't know if that's actually a healthy thing to do, because I've seen hons fucking everywhere on places like Susans say they ate Fenugreek and rubbed their man tits daily until they had J cups. I wish there was a place to find clarification on all the bullshit I've read and assumed wass real over the years.

>>7242203
Iktf
Now im gonna cry fuck

>>7242204
Hugg quid <3

>>7242193
Until I talk sometimes people think I'm a girl, sometimes. I know that. I just don't want to relive my early child hood again.
>>7242194
It's not necessarily bad. It's just not that good. You just have to take what they say with a grain of salt. Plus they hate people that aren't 1800's level female conforming. Which sucks because I want to be an athletic girl.
>>7242206
From what I understand it does help a little bit, but it's not going to make you massive.

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>>7242178
iktf
i was just trying to figure out if you could take progynova sublingually
>>7242169
hugg alex
>>7242175
*sobs inconsolably with a cute hat on*

>>7242206
AH something I can actually help with even drunk as fuck lol

Massaging is pointless in that sense BUT

I would highly recommend regulat massages cause it makes your tits more like a normal girls tits and not as sensitive to the littlest bump lol

If you massage it hard, despite the awful pain, your nips will stop hurting so bad after maybe. Ten sessions of that, and the rest of breast too

>>7242198
Well that sucks. I don't think self medding should be plan A like a lot of people here but disregarding it completely is excessive.

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Morning girls

>>7242207
soon maybe
i hope
at least
ugh
i have feelings :(

>>7242212
Hugg

Ok nini everyone ily all

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>>7242212
>Nobody owns a drug except god

>>7242206
wow I'm out of it but I hope you get what I meant

Massaging reduces soreness over time, that's the main benefit and that's why I massaged all the time when mine started growing

>>7242212
Nope, only the purplish bluish Teva Pharmaceuticals oval pills called estradiolare micronized to allow sublingual absorption :(

>>7242220
Na night.

>>7242217
Morning basic! :(

>>7242219
Wish i could help ;;
Wish i werent alone

Welp, I'm about to pass out here. Night, everyone.

>>7242212
Lmao just saw the image, jfc susans

Sublingual is like prog though, it's a crap shoot so you don't have to worry to much about not getting it, there's no evidence it actually helps anything it's just. A guess

>>7242216
>>7242194

They're the reason for the "hon" slur even existing.

They're really really hugboxy and are responsible for giving people advice that leaves them as unpassable as Chris-chan, and behaving like a 60's drag sterotype, then telling them "You look great, hon"

It's less a transgender board then "Drag Queens without Dicks" board, and I hope that's simply because how antiquated and outdated it is. Google has a bad habit of giving you links to REALLY fucking outdated advice.

>>7242229
aww
well
i just miss hugging pookie
l-lol

>>7242223
God better pass that shit on

>>7242212
I wonder about that too, like almost everything says it has no benefit, but some say they get higher E levels this way, and maybe a little bit gets absorbed so i just waste my time everyday to do it like that, because it won't harm me either..

>>7242217
Morninnnnng :3

>>7242237
Harro quiddu~

new tier list when?

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Feel so clean after that shower.

>>7242233
Hon is such an underground slur though, like you never see it outside of mtfg or /cd/ or connected places AFAIK

Point of this is that Susans actually uses it unironically all the time and it's hilarious "you're looking great, hon!" but meant sincerely

>>7242243
you can't wash away your sins

>>7242241
^^

>>7242242
why

>>7242246
:L

Na Night everyone.

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>>7242246
What sins?

Is blow drying bad for your hair? Does it cause damage?

>>7242255
yeah but it's not that bad. If you really want you can get heat protection sprays but i just let mine dry naturally.

tier list:
beautiful
isla
ugly
isla

>>7242254
of being tran :[

>>7242255
No I don't think so, dont use too high a heat and use a good conditioner and it should be fine

and fwiw basically all my cis friends use hair dryers, I mean the towel head thing only goes so far

>>7242257
Doesn't it take forever to dry naturally though?

>>7242255
It is bad for your hair but you can limit the damage by using as little heat as possible and a diffuser. Don't use it if you have curly hair.

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>>7242258
GG