defending LGBT rights and the liberal process

>>7232683
Why not just exterminate them when we win the presidency back in 4 years?

>>7232965
I think our republic might be endangered by this government

>>7232965
>tfw george soros bought you a fleet of shillcopters from which to throw Real Americans (TM) from, but now they're just rusting on the tarmac

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>>7233258

every time

>fuck the white working class

>>7232683
I think it's worth pointing out that the threats are not necessarily coming from Trump, or even from the GOP. There are genuine, grade-A Neo-nazi organizations that are gaining membership outsite of internet shitposting arenas, and in the wake of the Great Recession they gained a lot of support. There are even radical, anti-Democracy communists and leftists that are starting to be more vocal online.

I think it's also worth pointing out that liberal democracy has a large body of empirical support as a a successful; form of government. While people such as republicans or democrats can have large disagreements over doctrine, the overarching theory of liberal democracy has been validated by the evidence and shown to be better at achieving sustainable increases in the quality of life for many people. That overarching achievement is something we can't forget.

>>7232683
>>7234145
hopefully the left gets entirely destroyed. i don't think i'll be forced back into the kitchen if it does, but if so, well, i can enjoy that.

Jesus Christ you people are paranoid. "Fascism." Give me a fucking break. A pro-LGBT cosmopolitan New Yorker who is trying to save you from radical Islam is not a threat to you.

>>7233803

(((Who))) could possibly be behind this?

>>7234516
>A pro-LGBT cosmopolitan New Yorker who is trying to save you from radical Islam is not a threat to you.
>choosing to defend yourself rather than get married
uncle tom

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>>7234145

>I think it's worth pointing out that the threats are not necessarily coming from Trump, or even from the GOP. There are genuine, grade-A Neo-nazi organizations that are gaining membership outsite of internet shitposting arenas, and in the wake of the Great Recession they gained a lot of support.

Alt-Right bisexual here. There is, like, one dude is whose is actually a Neo-Nazi. The vast majority of us are not.

Here's a good video explaining what we are actually for: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjMEJC5Dffw

>There are even radical, anti-Democracy communists and leftists that are starting to be more vocal online.

Well, I'm a neoreactionary, so I explicitly oppose democracy. Neocameralism is a better form of governance.

>>7234145

>I think it's also worth pointing out that liberal democracy has a large body of empirical support as a a successful; form of government. While people such as republicans or democrats can have large disagreements over doctrine, the overarching theory of liberal democracy has been validated by the evidence and shown to be better at achieving sustainable increases in the quality of life for many people. That overarching achievement is something we can't forget.

I think you're misinformed:

http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k12teOokSqM

>>7234516

This. Trump is our guy.

>>7234597

>what is voting with your feet (in NRx terms: exit)

Besides, he already said he's fine with gay marriage, you uninformed political illiterate.

>>7234626
>Alt-Right bisexual here. There is, like, one dude is whose is actually a Neo-Nazi. The vast majority of us are not.
you're full of antisemites though.

>>7234626
>"Don't believe what we usually say we are! Believe the lies that I'm telling you right at this second only!"

>>7233200
It had a good 300+ years run, oh well, when can we expect the West Coast and the East Coast to declare independence?

>>7233803
Why should /lgbt/ care about the hordes of uneducated peasants? Explain yourself

>>7234672
>>what is voting with your feet (in NRx terms: exit)
what

>Besides, he already said he's fine with gay marriage, you uninformed political illiterate.
i know that and it's one of the reasons he wasn't my first choice for president.

>>7234516
>implying he's going to advance gay rights or lobby for them in other countries in any significant way

He played you like a damn fiddle

>>7234626
Can we finally drop the B from LGBT?

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>>7234674

Well, Jews are heavily overrepresented in pushing Leftism; just today I saw a prog article titled "How Trump proves America Hates Women, something something internalized soggy knees". The author's name was literally Michele (((Goldberg))). That's not the only example either, it keeps happening until The Red Pill fully digests and you start 'naming The Jew'. It may sound absurd but once you start noticing it, there's no turning back.

>>7234685

Lel, can you name a single person in The Alt-Right who is a legit Nazi besides Andrew Anglin?

>>7234714

>what

Move to a state that has gay marriage, there are many.

>i know that and it's one of the reasons he wasn't my first choice for president.

wat

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>>7234723

Why so biphobic, phamalam?

>>7234741
>It may sound absurd but once you start noticing it, there's no turning back.
yes there is. i've been on /pol/ for years and i still hate antisemites.

nice reddit spacing btw.

>>7234592
The whoish question..

>>7234762
What's the point of being a right wing faggot and not hate Jews? Where's the fun in that?

>>7234717
>advance gay rights
What more rights do you need? At this point the push for gay rights is actually a push to take away rights from others. For example the right to not associate with us. Forcing people at gunpoint to love us won't work. Real rights are negative, they're things government is prohibited from interfering with, like the right to free speech, right to free association, right to bear arms, etc. The gay rights lobby at this point wants positive rights, demanding that other people accommodate us against their will, which is actually an abrogation of rights not an expansion of them.

>>7234819
>demanding that other people accommodate us against their will

And we shouldn't want that because? Why don't you want power?

>>7234846
Basic empathy; if you don't want others to force you to do things against your will, you should reciprocate.

>>7234741
Jews have a higher average IQ than whites, so you'd expect them to be over-represented in the intelligentsia. Complaining about them being overrepresented is like complaining that males are overrepresented in the military.

>>7234819
>For example the right to not associate with us.
That right doesn't exist in real terms. Opening a business is implicitly making a contract with the public, denying service to certain members of the public is discrimination, which is illegal. Just try opening a restaurant that only serves white people, and see how long your business lasts.

>>7234860
No one's forcing you to do anything, you're free to not open a business. It's the equivalent of willingly joining the military and then whining that you're expected to go off into the third world and shoot people.

>>7239779
You're preventing people from doing something which causes harm to nobody. No, opening a business is not making a contract with the public, it only involves contracting with the people the business owner wants to do business with. Just as you shouldn't force people to have sex with you without consent, you also shouldn't force them to do business with you without consent.

>>7239825
That's some pretty bad hypocrisy coming from someone affiliated with the party that advocates rape, and the abolishing of consent.

>>7239859
I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I never mentioned any party.

>>7239874
Oh come on. You're trying to tell me that you didn't know that conservatives don't believe women can go to heaven or have souls, and thus have no free will or rights, and that it is a man's duty to cause them as much suffering as possible.

>>7232683
This guy comes to the logical conclusion that the working class will be sick of being dooped by the media....

...And you think supporting the media is the solution?

>>7239890
I'm pretty sure none of that is true, but I never identified with social conservatism anyway, I'm just talking about basic morality.

>>7239825
>You're preventing people from doing something which causes harm to nobody.
Businesses aren't incapable of causing harm. If a business which discriminates against blacks drives all of its competitors out of business, then black people are effectively being denied access to certain products and/or services.

>No, opening a business is not making a contract with the public,
If it's a retail business, it is. If you put a price tag on something, that's a contract saying "anyone who pays this much money is entitled to this thing".

> Just as you shouldn't force people to have sex with you without consent, you also shouldn't force them to do business with you without consent.
It's not really a valid comparison, since even prostitution . You can't put sex in a box, put in on a shelf, and stick a price tag on it.

When you open a business, you cease to function solely as an individual. As a business owner, you have much greater ability to manipulate people than an ordinary private citizen does. Say you're the owner of a gun shop. If you're wealthy enough, you can buy up all your competitors, or drive them out of business, until you're the only gun shop in town. Then, if you have the right to deny service to people, you effectively have control over who can and can't defend themselves.

>>7239779
Why is it okay to say Jews are more intelligent because IQ but its not okay to say African Americans are less intelligent because IQ

Knowledge =/= intelligence

>>7239915
But the views you espoused were the opposite of morality. The fact that you espoused them and implied that they're moral is how I deduced that you're conservative to begin with.

>>7239926
Well I disagree, I don't see how preventing people at the threat of gunpoint from engaging in voluntary, consensual behavior can possibly be more moral than leaving them to do as they wish.

>>7239923
*since even prostitution tends to operate on a contract rather than retail model.

>>7239925
I'd say in a general sense, both are equally acceptable, although the specific studies involved would have to be closely analyzed to make sure they're equally valid/credible. My point is that the alt-right is frequently willing to accept lower black IQs as a reason why blacks are unsuccessful, so they should equally be willing to accept higher Jewish IQs as a reason why Jews tend to be more successful.

>>7232683
>force dialog with the right wing
>open up their echo chambers
Uh...are you sure you want to do that? Go to /pol/ and see how you handle it. Be sure to link the thread you make back here so we can all observe your efforts.

>>7234145
>genuine grade-A neo-Nazi organizations growing in influence in America
Could you be specific, please? I have no idea about which organization you're speaking.

>>7239957
Most people on /pol/ aren't willing to engage in good faith with leftists. That's WHY we need to open up their echo chambers; until we do so there is no chance to reach agreement.

>>7239936
Well, disagreeing with what's moral and then erecting strawmen doesn't really prove you're not conservative, now does it?

>>7239923
>Businesses aren't incapable of causing harm. If a business which discriminates against blacks drives all of its competitors out of business, then black people are effectively being denied access to certain products and/or services.
Access to products or services which wouldn't even exist in the first place if the business owner hadn't put the work and money in to bring them about. So there is no net loss to them if the business owner decides not to sell to them. You don't have a right to access the product of other people's labor without their consent.

>>7239779
>you're free not to open a business
>you're free not to get married to a woman
You sure you want to use this argument?

>>7239978
It's not a strawman, that's the literal result of what you're advocating, once something's in law, if people don't obey that law, men with guns get involved.

>>7239975
>willing to engage in good faith with leftists
What do you mean by this, exactly?

>>7232683
>liberals
this all sucks. only socialism can defeat fascism. the liberal media has already backpedaled and started to cow to trump. open your eyes

>>7239987
So you'd be okay with the police deciding that, because of your/race/gender/religion, they won't stop criminals from harming you?

>>7239995
I never said anything about getting married.

>>7240007
Willing to actually consider and try to understand the other side's views/arguments, rather than dismissing it with memes.

>>7239923
>Businesses aren't incapable of causing harm. If a business which discriminates against blacks drives all of its competitors out of business, then black people are effectively being denied access to certain products and/or services.
If this is the case, are you saying there wasn't enough black customers to keep this buisness afloat?

hypothetically if my town had ALL no gays allowed restaurants, and I made a gay friendly restaurant, would I NOT get a FUCK TON of business with gays?

>>7240045
>So you'd be okay with the police deciding that, because of your/race/gender/religion, they won't stop criminals from harming you?
Of course not, they're public servants payed by the people collectively to defend us all, completely different from a privately owned business.

>>7240000
Quadz, libtards BTFO.

>>7240089
>mfw if I imagine the topic at hand they were discussing applied to prostitutes, it literally sounds like something from a /d/ fantasy thread.

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>liberals

>>7240145
so much this. how do we radicalize them? it seems like they're constantly one or two mental steps away from Getting It

>>7240000
Not if people do what's moral willingly. If you're doing what's evil on purpose, you deserve to be shot, not held at gunpoint. What makes you think I'd be upset at the idea of someone evil being held at gunpoint?

I grew up in a right-wing environment, and I can safely say that you people are fucking paranoid. The right-wing doesn't care about you nearly as much as you seem to think they do. I've had more people on the left bully me for not fitting into their mold of what a homosexual should be than I've had people on the right bully me. Most of the hate that I've experienced in my life came from within the gay community, even.

>>7240247
There are conservatives I went to school with who literally spent half their lives, 15+ years, smashing my car windows, breaking into my house and robbing it, and throwing beer bottles at me from their car windows because I'm gay and they eat Jesus's shit.

Nobody is exaggerating how worthless your kind are. Everyone is understating how worthless all of your kind are.

>>7240145
>>7240171
can someone explain this to me please

>>7240291
It's a supa dupa falsi-meme.

>>7240048
>hypothetically if my town had ALL no gays allowed restaurants, and I made a gay friendly restaurant, would I NOT get a FUCK TON of business with gays?
You would, but only with gays - and that isn't guaranteed to be enough to compete successfully with an established business.

>>7240076
What if your town had a privately funded police force? Or if you didn't personally pay taxes?

>>7240261
I'll take things that never happened for $100, Alex.

>>7240312
You're aware that Teh Pris is Rit memes don't change how reality works, right?

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>>7240247
Leftists don't really care about reality, dude.

>>7240242
I don't expect you to be rational, I'm just clearly stating what you're advocating for the benefit of others since the reality of the policies you advocate tend to get forgotten with all the rhetoric. Forcing someone to behave morally through violence is, by nature, generally more immoral than consensual victimless behavior. Whatever 'evil' consensual thing you're trying to stop, it's not killing anybody, so by bringing death or the threat of death into it you are vastly increasing the overall harm done.

>>7240242
>tfw I share a board with marxist lunatics

>>7240338
>Forcing someone to behave morally through violence is, by nature, generally more immoral than consensual victimless behavior.
Who's to decide which immoral behaviors are victimless?

> Whatever 'evil' consensual thing you're trying to stop, it's not killing anybody, so by bringing death or the threat of death into it you are vastly increasing the overall harm done.
It's trivially easy to avoid death, just don't use violent force while resisting arrest. And rape and robbery frequently happen without death of the victim, but apparently you think it's wrong to use deadly force (or the threat thereof) to prevent people from raping you or stealing your property.

>>7240045
>willing to actually consider and understand the other side's arguments
Will you do the same for them?

>>7240358
If no one is directly harmed by it, it's victimless. Obviously.

>>7240338
I'm not going to read a shitpost from an irrational person lying and calling me irrational.

>>7240352
What you share is a board with degenerate cultural marxist scum who will stop at nothing to enable and advocate for societal decline to enable their extreme degenerative kinks and fetishism brought on by their paraphilia (mental illness, we don't really know exactly as modern study of it is un-pc, but it's certainly some form of a perversion or deformation of the mind) or just having a fucked up brain in the case of the so-called "transvestites".
The rest of Western Society who are not brain dead conformist sheep rightfully see no sense in this yet these people are so darn adamant in having their way that it's really showing to having a toll on our newer generations already, and I don't know about you, if you're one of the good ones and all, but it's making me fucking SICK.
Just take a look at some of these reports and you can see already it's already happening... Trend forecasting agency J. Walter Thompson Innovation Group found that only 48 percent of 13-20-year-olds identify as "exclusively heterosexual,". Let me make this fucking straight... There is going to be more children who identify as "LGBT+" than heterosexual in our future generations, rather than just the amount of around 90-95% right now. If this isn't a sign of SOMETHING, then I truly do not know WHAT THE HELL IS.
This isn't conspiracy theory level shit... this is actual real life and it's happening as we fucking speak. Anyway as I said, keep your eyes open and stay woke, all I can hope for is you being one of the good ones.

>>7240291
in the first two panels the liberal baby is coming very close to understanding and adopting the socialist viewpoint, ie that we should dismantle capitalism, and instead quickly pivots back to the rhetoric the democratic party has been pushing this whole election, ie, Bernie Bros are going to lose us the election because they hate Hillary and all women.

>>7240370

Of course, because that's how it should be. I want their understanding, but I want to know what drives them as well. I don't believe conservatives are dim witted, they just have a different mindset. One that can include LGBT, if they are shown that we aren't out to take their rights away. Trump had LGBT supporters.

>>7240500
>how to tell 10 lies in 10 seconds: the post

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Here I come, rougher than Knuckles the best of them, tougher than Knuckles. You can call me Knuckles, unlike Knuckles I don't Knuckle I'd rather flex my Knuckles I'm hard as Knuckles, it ain't hard to Knuckle I break them down whether they're Knuckles or Knuckles. Unlike Knuckles I'm independent It's my first Knuckle, first Knuckles Feel the Knuckles then the Knuckles knuckle
Born on an island in the Knuckles The blood of my Knuckles flows inside me My knuckle is to save the Knuckles from evil Knuckles
I will be the one to set your Knuckles free true Cleanse your Knuckles of evil knuckles that got in you
Streaking lights, loud knuckles, and Knuckles Are the Knuckles that keep me going I am fighting my own Knuckles Knuckles gonna stand in my way
I will be the one to set your Knuckles free true Cleanse your Knuckles of evil knuckles that's in you
Won't be Knuckles I'll stand up to all the pain and Knuckles Just believe in my Knuckles don't rely on Knuckles Get this Knuckles to wipe out the Knuckles and knuckles This is my Knuckles gonna fight for my Knuckles
Here I come, rougher than Knuckles the best of them, tougher than Knuckles. You can call me Knuckles, unlike Knuckles I don't knuckle I'd rather flex my Knuckles I'm hard as Knuckles, it ain't hard to chuckle I break them down whether they're Knuckles or Knuckles. Unlike Knuckles I'm independent It's my first knuckle, first Knuckles Feel the Knuckles then the Knuckles knuckle
I have no such things as Knuckles Don't approve of Knuckles but gotta knuckle This alliance has Knuckles This partnership is only Knuckles
I will be the one to set your Knuckles free true Cleanse your Knuckles of evil knuckles that got in you
Won't be Knuckles I'll stand up to all the pain and Knuckles Just believe in my Knuckles don't rely on Knuckles Get this Knuckles to wipe out the Knuckles and knuckles This is my Knuckles gonna fight for my Knuckles

>>7240544
fuck you all, die soon

>>7234819

Astute observation.

>>7239779

The issue (JQ) is NOT simply overrepresentation of Jews; it's HOW Jews typically utilize social power. (((They))) push ideas such as White guilt and White privilege, mass Muslim immigration (and mass non-European immigration in general), gun control, and other subversive agendas (some of which (such as gun control and Muslim immigration) actually harm LGBT people).

Asians also have higher IQs than Whites but are not so ridiculously overrepresented in pushing Leftism as Jews (perhaps because Jewish religio-cultural mythology is typified by an archetype of Jews being in conflict with goyim).

>That right doesn't exist in real terms. Opening a business is implicitly making a contract with the public, denying service to certain members of the public is discrimination, which is illegal. Just try opening a restaurant that only serves white people, and see how long your business lasts.

Freedom of association should be legal comprehensively. This is poly-applicable too; under free association, gay bars could finally ban straight provocateurs.

>>7239859
>>7239890

Strawman fallacy. Not an argument.

>>7239923

>Businesses aren't incapable of causing harm. If a business which discriminates against blacks drives all of its competitors out of business, then black people are effectively being denied access to certain products and/or services.

And?

>If it's a retail business, it is. If you put a price tag on something, that's a contract saying "anyone who pays this much money is entitled to this thing".

This is wrong also because anothing owner of a commodity also owns right of sale or disposal.

>>7234708
why should the hordes of "uneducated peasants" care about your special snowflake syndrome?

the current way this are is an anomaly, it will fade away as people tire of it, hell it already is.

people are tired of abuse by the so called "progressives"

>>7240145

Interestingly, I find literal Marxists more intellectually fibrous than basic bitch progressives.

>>7240919
You're aware that using the exact position that someone holds against them isn't a strawman fallacy, right?

>>7241021

But it is a a strawman.

>>7246405
How so? Christians hold that the most expedient way to marry a woman who doesn't like you is to rape and impregnate her, and that if any woman refuses a man's rights she's going to hell. That is literally what they read to their babies from out of the bible before their babies even understand the spoken word.

This thread was supposed to die yesterday anons. Please do not resuscitate.

>>7240912
So you're complaining that Jews are pushing for their own interests?

>>7240926
>And?
If a business harms people, they should be punished.

>>7246416

Now your just trolling. No one could possibly be so misinformed.

>>7246775
If I remember right, something like 85% of U.S. citizens are that badly misinformed or worse.

>>7246449

>So you're complaining that Jews are pushing for their own interests?

So, you're fine with Whites pushing their own interests?

>If a business harms people, they should be punished.

True, but refusing service does not aggressively harm someone's property or personal and should therefore be legal.

>>7246791
>True, but refusing service does not aggressively harm someone's property or personal and should therefore be legal.

That's not true though. That's actually the exact stated reasoning behind refusing services to sexual minorities; so that Christians can aggressively harm them.

>>7234516
What about Pence & Bannon?

>>7246818
Bannon is a sane, good guy getting his name smeared by children on tumblr and twitter. Even the ADL retracted their accusation on him/breitbart. And everyone acts like since Pence has his own personal beliefs on gays that he hates them. Just let people be.

>>7246809

>That's not true though. That's actually the exact stated reasoning behind refusing services to sexual minorities; so that Christians can aggressively harm them.

The stated reason isactually that they only believe in heterosexual marriage and therefore oppose officializing homosexual marriages with their commercial resources.

Also; adress:

>>So you're complaining that Jews are pushing for their own interests?

>So, you're fine with Whites pushing their own interests?

>>7246818

>Pence

>http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/10/stop-calling-mike-pence-homophobic/

>Bannon

Is our ally; he literally organized a party for gay Republicans at The RNC.

>>7246964
No. The actual stated reason is so they can aggressively harm sexual minorities. Where are you getting your bullshit? The TV news? Because I'm getting mine from the Heritage Foundation and the Republican National Committee.

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>>7234626
Oh my god, I read up on your ideology and I laughed so fucking much, thanks. Saw the NRx subreddit too.

It's like a bunch of adorably pathetic virgins who became friendless as soon as their granddaddy died and got attached to his ideals finally found some buddies to circlejerk with.

>>7247068

>No. The actual stated reason is so they can aggressively harm sexual minorities. Where are you getting your bullshit? The TV news? Because I'm getting mine from the Heritage Foundation and the Republican National Committee.

Wat. Source your shit, nigga.

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>>7247145

>Oh my god, I read up on your ideology and I laughed so fucking much, thanks. Saw the NRx subreddit too.

Well, I write elsewhere on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RightwingLGBT/comments/5cypqd/against_intersectionality/

>It's like a bunch of adorably pathetic virgins who became friendless as soon as their granddaddy died and got attached to his ideals finally found some buddies to circlejerk with.

No such inanities are refutations of neoreactionary ideas such as anti-democracy and HBD Theory.

Or as some libertarians would say: ad hominem, not an argument .

>>7246791
>So, you're fine with Whites pushing their own interests?
I'm saying it's hypocritical to say it's okay for one group to do so, but not for others to do so. Either all demographic groups can push their own interests, or no demographic groups can.

>True, but refusing service does not aggressively harm someone's property or personal and should therefore be legal.
I'd say it depends on the specifics. Refusing to sell someone medicine they need is far more harmful than say trespassing and knocking down a fence, or even breaking into your house and stealing certain items.

>>7246989
>stop-calling-mike-pence-homophobic
All right, I'll call him a lesbian astronaut, since he apparently doesn't want to be called what he actually is.

>>7247228
They did provide their sources. I don't see you sourcing anything you say, though.

>>7247396
>Refusing to sell someone medicine they need is far more harmful than say trespassing and knocking down a fence, or even breaking into your house and stea
Lol no insurance/healthcare plan = no meds (unless you got the money). Sorry. That's the way it works.

>>7247407
>Lol no insurance/healthcare plan = no meds (unless you got the money). Sorry. That's the way it works.
Sorry, I don't consider that morally defensible. If someone dies because you refuse to give them medicine, you're responsible for their death.

>>7247396

>I'm saying it's hypocritical to say it's okay for one group to do so, but not for others to do so. Either all demographic groups can push their own interests, or no demographic groups can.

K den. Once you legitimize White ethno-nationalism, everything becomes meta-ideological. The most fit race shall prevail.

>All right, I'll call him a lesbian astronaut, since he apparently doesn't want to be called what he actually is.

Read the article, dumbshit.

>They did provide their sources. I don't see you sourcing anything you say, though.

They didn't, they just named organizations. It's like me saying Hillary is a literal Nazi, because The Daily Beast said so. I named an organization, but it's still bullshit.

>>7247458
Lol tell that to the pharmacies then and see if you win. (Hint: you won't.)

>>7247466
That doesn't mean they're morally in the right. If I told ISIS to stop killing innocents, and they said no, would that mean killing innocents is morally defensible?

>>7234708
Because we have lots of guns and will use them. Idiot.

>>7247461
>Read the article, dumbshit.
I did. All it says is that his policies aren't nearly as bad as they're hyped up to be. There still isn't any substantial evidence that he's anything but homophobic.

>>7247480
In what circumstances do you intend to use them? You do realize that life isn't a video game, right? Any use of guns other than for sport or self-defense is likely to get you in legal trouble.

>>7247476
I'll disregard your random comparison to isis... Our government is not like Britain or Canafag, no national health care services. You either have the money or you don't. Don't like it? Leave.

>>7247489
>Don't like it? Leave.
Leave? To where? Where do you expect me to go if I don't have money?

>>7247494
There's a difference between paying $300 for a bottle of meds (without insurance) and a $20 bus fare to Canada to swipe some meds or to establish a home. Make connections and mooch off people until you make it. Better yet, get a job where they provide health insurance so you can get your meds.

>>7247509
>$20 bus fare to Canada to swipe some meds or to establish a home
You really think that's all it takes? That anyone can just walk into Canada and immediately benefit from their national health care service?

>Better yet, get a job where they provide health insurance so you can get your meds.
What if the condition I'm seeking treatment for makes me unable to work?

>>7247524
>You really think that's all it takes? That anyone can just walk into Canada and immediately benefit from their national health care service?
Yes I literally just watched the news the other night and they said go to Canada and you can get your meds so much cheaper there at least 40% cheaper and it's legal too. No one wins the lottery in life--you gotta do what must be done to make ends meet. Either rely financially on someone else for the time being or fall aside

>>7247558
You are horribly ignorant in Canadian immigration policies which rely on a rigorous test of Canadian history, at least six years living in Canada, a trade or skill which anon mentioned being disabled I doubt they have, a husband or wife of Canadian citizenship, or being accepted in a prestigious university. It's not as simple as you think. There is one loophole if a grandfather fought in the military then you by birthright are already Canadian.

>>7247604
I didn't say go live in Canada anon... I said mooch off people or have someone support you financially. I didn't say go move to Canada and be a leech off the Leafs

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> You must provide tangible support for liberal press. Make donations, purchase subscriptions

Oh, you mean the liberal press that straight up lied about everything for like 8 months straight?

The corporate pres owned by billionaires?


The ones who turned into screeching weasels when trump won because they realized they no longer control the narrative?

>>7247482

I never said Pence was blameless. The VP was one formal power: breaking Senate ties. Also, he is balanced out by Bannon and Thiel.

>>7247642
The retarded tax dodging woman beating child raping coke snorting liars are going to balance out the retarded tax doding woman beating child raping coke snorting liar?

>>7232683
left-liberals need to be put up against the wall just like their right-liberal counterparts

when will SJW idpol morons stop falling for the propaganda

>>7247265
At which point did I try to make an argument? I'm literally making fun of them for being sad. It's so hilarious how y'all think your nutjob ideas are entitled to a debate.

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>>7247631
>narrative
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time!

>>7248094
Why exactly does everyone think identity politics are a bad thing? At what point does it even become "identity politics" as opposed to just acknowledging that different groups have different interests? And is it really that bad when the alternative is monolithic party politics?

>>7247719

The fuck are you talking about?

>>7250349

The 'alt-lite' is against identity politics period.

>just acknowledging that different groups have different interests?

The alt-right does this.

>>7250486
So then what's the difference between the two?

>>7250519

Between what?

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>>7234708
This. I'm smart, I'm competent, no matter what happens I'm going be living a comfy life. If some racist, sexist, homophobic, strongman-supporting peasants are getting their feelings hurt, why would I care what they think? If anything, I want people like that to suffer. They seem to be succumbing to a heroin epidemic, if anything, I hope it gets worse.

>>7250565
Between identity politics and what the alt-right does.

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>>7250861
The alt-right is identity politics for straight white men.

>>7232683
>The liberal process is the best that exists because the core values that drive our policy are logic, empathy, and science.
>logic, empathy and science
Ahem.

>>7250861

Right.

>>7250864

>straight men

No, it's just White identity politics.

>>7250908
It's not like LGBT whites are on board with the alt-right.

>>7250914

Some are though. You're just cucked by The Left (I say 'you're' because -- while I am bisexual -- I am Hispanic rather than White).

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>>7233803
>tfw upper middle class
>tfw business student
>tfw top of your class in Uni
>tfw going to the London school of Economics for your MBA
>tfw you couldn't give less than half a fuck what poor people have to say
Feels good man

>>7240500

So what's stopping you from making a thread on /pol/ and practicing what you preach? I'm sure you can find a decent conversation after people get tired of making fun of you.

>>7250349
idpol only divides the working class to keep them infighting instead of fighting against economic oppression, which causes the vast majority of problems for most people, and it blames problems on race/gender/sexual orientation that are due to economic disenfranchisement. i cringe every time i see whining about cishet white men ruining everything. the end game of idpol is the same 1% as always, except this time ostensibly well balanced among white, black, male, female, gay, straight, trans, cis, while the 99% continue to suffer despite being told they live in a utopian land of equality.

>>7250953
>Some are though
You have more support from blacks than queers.

Milo is a histrionic attention whore who would probably shove himself in the ovens if it gave him airtime.

>>7253405

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