/tgg/ Trans Girl General

Previously thread
>>7139568

post post

how long does ADC usually take to deliver to central US? I just put in my first order and am curious about when it'll arrive.

How different is /TGG/ And /MTFG/?

Only just saw this thread today.

>>7215010
It's really slow, sometimes there'll be qutie a few posts, but sometimes it's really dead.

Keep a tab open if you like the idea, things don't become active if nobody stays.

>>7215326
Yeah but I don't know what the idea is besides not being trip based, and no drama.
Is that just it?

>>7215386
Yeah, and I guess, at least imo, to avoid all the memeing and other 4chan culture stuff (like Trump xD MAGA).

>>7215010
mtfg might as well be agp gen. There's a reason all the real trans girls left.

>>7212420
>reboot #5

>>7218390
Forgot to change the copy paste... This is #6

>>7215429
Right. I talk much more here than in that memezone. They post too much. And I need a place to post. I feel so bad lately.

>>7220883
me too, im ready to die

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"Manly man" here..

.. how to gf?
Srs question
Pls respond

today i will tell my sister about dysphoria

i hope i won't get fucking killed lol

>>7221132
good luck

>Work with all female staff
>They're putting so much effort into treating me well and including me

I'm happy but at the same time struggling because I don't know how to deal with people being nice and accepting. Hate, disgust, fear, discomfort, exclusion, alienation those are all things I know and deal with.

They're pointing out all of the cute mannerisms/looks and all of the things I've worked so hard on for so long and I'm too shy, I turn into a blushing mess.

But it's still a nice feeling.

>>7220949
Dating site, meet people at work, etc.

>>7221228
you're lucky.
I wish i knew people like that

finally get the balls to order hormones online, get to check out, Visa payment is down...

Is it a sign?

>>7221801
congrats, you're cis!

Curious any trans experiment with research chems. bought 4-aco dmt yesterday and waiting for it in the mail

>reboot version
>doesn't have useful links on the OP

as it tends to happens, reboots are worse than the originals.

>>7221801
I know you're not the only one that tries to handle hormones on their own but since you're here I'll ask you. Why are you doing it yourself instead of finding a doctor experienced with hrt to help you?

>>7223663
not that poster but not everybody is in a social or financial situation where they can just go see a doctor and get hrt. they might not have insurance so ordering online is cheaper or they might live with unsupportive parents so they need to be discrete. also hrt is not some complicated treatment that absolutely needs a doctor overseeing it, with a couple hours research and regular blood tests anyone can do just as well as an endo.

>>7223598
The original thread didn't have any "useful links" either.

The "useful" links on places like mftg, aren't "useful", they're pretty much worthless, and only takes space.

>>7221228
>I turn into a blushing mess.
that image is adorable

>>7223663
>>7223753
am that poster, >>7223753 has some good reasons too but for me its because im in the UK and best case scenario itd be around 9 months until id get them and likely even longer for me because they take any sort of hesitation as an excuse to further delay

and even then there would likely be other problems because Ive been on antidepressants in the past

I just dont want to wait too long when I already feel like Ive left it too late (19) y'know?

>>7221419
None at where I work, and all the dating sites i tried were literally as trashy as craigslist

why are trips so prevalent on the other thread, I don't get it. is it something to do with transgirls wanting to be noticed or something else? so many weird tags too

>>7229009
We just want you to notice us anon-senpai O_O

>>7229009
It's a permanent and heavily populated place for the trips to go and socialise and everything. This one is less focused on socialisation and more on advice/discussion.

Protip: cardio works miracles with your hrt regiment.
I get clocked less after ive been running in the morning, and ive yet to be in girlmode.

>>7229715
im gonna start running, but since im a lazy bitch im taking kratom.

>>7229715
What kind of miracles, how does it work to your benefit?

>tfw pre-everything and haven't found the way to bring myself to start my transition
Please, lend me your energies so I can stop hurting myself so much, /tgg/.

I might start posting here again on this board. Glad you finally got rid of the trips.

>>7221132
Did...died she died?

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>>7231996

>>7232051
welcome back

>>7232051
Hello. Please stick around and discuss something interesting.

>finally guess that i'll just have to kms if i can't get FFS, voice surgery, and hip implants
>it all takes so much effort and money and I can't do anything already
fml

>>7234981
I knew that feel, but only for FFS.
Luckily I got ffs, so I survived.

>>7237050
FFS scares me so much, the photos of people with faces all bruised and bleeding afterward really unsettles me.
I want a girly face, I just don't like surgeries

>>7237104
But you don't really look at all the brusing and swelling, you're weak, tired, and too bothered to really care too much.

Hi /tgg/,
Anyone have experience taking the step from prescribed hormones to SRS? I did self-med for a couple years, finally got the guts to see shrink to get official prescription, and have been on that about a year, but not sure where to start for getting hooked up with a surgeon...
If anything just for convenience sake since I'm so tired of tucking.

I started questioning myself a couple of months. Thinking about I might be looking the girls mostly for the looks that I would want to have instead of attraction, that I never found some guy that I would say "I want to be like that", I've never been masculine and even find masculinity repelling. Maybe, that apathy towards my gender was trying to repress other feelings and I might have opened the box lately.

Any help to further explore my feelings?

>>7237828
Trans help general might be good as well, but the question you're supposed to ask is
"If I could press a button and wake up tomorrow as a girl, would I?"
Also, generally if you're asking the question, the answer is yes. Cis people rarely ask themselves these sorts of things.

>>7237848
Yes, I guess the question would be yes. I'll go over there, thank you

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Anyone else able to fantasize about intimate experiences to the point where you get serious physical "effects"?
Like butterflies, tingling in stomach, and where you just feel really weird?

I'm so sexually frustrated... I want a bf and be done with transition, so bad.

>>7238106
yea, sometimes it makes me cry

>>7237104
look at the photos of them 6 months post ffs then

>>7237389
its a bit different for every country I think but generally figure out what surgeon you want to go to and see what they require. usually need something like 2 letters from psychs. you might have insurance coverage you might not idk should try to find that out too.

>25
>NEET
>no college degree
>depressed
>suicidal, but too much of a coward to actually do it
>closeted mtf
What I'm supposed to do? It's not like I have any motivation to keep going, but I still have a dim light inside me that tells me things could improve, despite the fact that I'm a mess with no prospect of a future.
Has anyone been here too? How did you get out of it?

>>7212420
>tfw no trans girl to send a dick pic to

>>7239300
transition
you got nothing to lose

>>7239416
unsee it up fampai

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>>7240108
what a shit poll, there are far worse posters than those..

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>>7239300
I started right about there sans a few things and dead-end job. Things can get better. Get on HRT and at least get one source of stress off of your back. You just have to bite the bullet and do it. Realize that you won't get any less masculine by waiting. You don't wanna be bald do you?

also

>tfw just threw on some pants and a hoodie and passed easier than when trying.

goddammit

I live with my mum, stepdad, and stepbrother. I told my mum a few weeks ago, but I haven't said a thing to stepdad.
My stepdad is basically a stereotype at this point. He's literally stuck in the '50s. We live in the UK and he still uses Fahrenheit exclusively.

Anyway, the last few days my mum has started getting real fucky. She's said she hates lying to him, even though I'm pre everything (as far as she knows). She said he's been asking questions like - and I kid you not, this is a question he asked that she panicked about - why I'm growing my hair out.

I want to move out right now, but I crunched the numbers and I'd be on somewhere around £0 spending money a month. That's not including furniture if the only place I can get is unfurnished.

No real question here, just felt like venting.

>>7231996
I've started HRT and I'm not ready yet. I'd bigged up the whole thing but honestly, the first few months do nothing. I still look like a guy, but I feel like I'm making progress, and I know that by the time I do start looking like a proper woman, I'll be ready to, and I'll be glad I started early

>>7242719
You probably want to save up, if you may need some surgeries.

>>7238106
>when you're on your vacay and this triggers the feely whellies
I h8 this board

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Would anyone here date me? Just a hypothetical question.

>>7243987
why would you fake a selfie? Even changing the file name of a 4chan img. Where did it go wrong anon?

Hey I wasn't sure where to post this but I would assume you trans girls have more insight on vanity surgeries then anywhere else on the board so Ill post it here.

My whole life I had small boobs and I went alright by it but lately I've been thinking of getting breast enhancements. I always told myself I don't want silicone's in my body and rather live the rest of my life with small boobs then fake ones. But now I came across this relative new concept of lipofilling. And I was wondering if you people have any experience with this? They suck out some fat in other parts of your body and inject that fat into your boobs. Apparently the results aren't as staggering like silicone's where you can increase 2 cup sizes. But I literally just want one cup size bigger so I can give my future gf more to play with and I look more stunning when wearing dresses.

>>7243995
A long time ago.

>>7243997
>>>/adv/
Fuck off

finally 18 and been taking antiandrogens for a little over a month now. want to order some estrogen soon, but I'm scared as fuck. like, it's finally happening. the thing I have dreamed about since like 14 is finally about to happen, and its scary. too many things are going through my head this week. akldsfjawemnt;waklejt

>>7244004
Wow don't have to be rude.

>>7243997
Doesn't sound like that great of an idea.
Lipofilling is unreliable, some fat will stick, others won't, so you'll probably need some revisions (but fairly likely with normal BA too).

I guess if it's the same cost as normal ones, or cheaper.
But if it's expensive you're probably better off getting over yourself, and get either saline implants or silicone, or just live with small boobs.

>>7244019
The things you have done to your asshole over the years will haunt you forever.

>>7243997
Just do teardrop implants under muscle

Fat transfer fails more often than not. At first it looks great. Not so much 1-2 years after.

>>7244059
Do you have statistics on the failure rate? I cant really find anything aside from really positive stories of people giving it 9/10 on sites. But I would assume those are mostly sponsored by the surgeons.

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God, I wish I were pretty too.

>>7244030
I don't know why that made me laugh so much

I've been having light chest and throat congestion for so long. Does this happen to anyone else? Should I call my doctor?

I take Spiro and Estradiol if that helps.

It doesn't seem like that big of a deal but it's frustrating to live with :\

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This thread is no fun and I want it to go away.

>>7246502
No. This thread is nice.

wadup!!
having a single external erogenous zone that is really sensitive from mones is awful

>talking with cis girl curious about transitioning/srs/etc.
>Are you going to get That Surgery?
>hopefully!
>You won't have to worry about periods!
>She meant this in a positive way
>actually feel fucking awful and awkward

>>7215429
Being a cunt memester who spams agp isn't going to attract moderate, worthwhile contributors to your thread.

>>7246269
Had a rhinosplasty revision, and now I have limited breathing, so if I walk it can sometimes not get enough air through the note from the "exhaustion".
I've always had some issues with breathing through my nose though, but now it's even worse.

Really annoying... In your case though, maybe ask a doctor?

>>7246701
Yeah, but you also kinda have to understand that periods is pretty horrible.
Bleeding, and terrible pain, for a few days, every month.

You know when you have those horrible stomach cramps, that makes you way too warm etc, sort of when you've eaten something bad?
I imagine periods would be like that, but not only for a few hours, for entire days.

Only reason they are good is for the free estrogen and ability to have kids.

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>>7247252
Free estrogen

>>7247252
You misunderstood me, it's not out of jealousy. I felt awful because it sharply cut the truth of what I am. At that moment, more than any other time, I felt like just a cheap copy.

>>7247892
Yeah, I've gotten over it, a bit.
Got one online friend, who is a cis girls, and talked quite a bit, and she's mentioned irregularities etc (she really wants kids).

After all, what really matters, is getting a bf.
I mean, at least I don't have any delusions of living all that long, and that having any long term relationships will be hard or impossible to get.

So, you may as well just get over yourself, and live whatever parts of life you can live.

>>7239300
I was in a similar situation. 25 y/o neet, no university, no job since 2012, depression, avoidant personality.

In my case I fell in love with another transgirl and moved across two states to be with her. Shortly after I gave up on transition because of heavy anxiety and forever ugly. I live as an andromode femboy now. It didn't cure my anxiety but its manageable to an extent. I'm self employed as an artist which helps since I rarely deal with people face to face.

>tfw lost virginity last weekend
>tfw it was at a /k/ meetup

>>7248344
still on hrt?

>>7248568
Yeah. I don't think I could give that up.

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I've started dominating this trans girl that I really care about, but sometimes she feels depressed over the fact that she doesn't feel like a real girl because of impostor syndrome (She passes, trust me). I do have kind of a hard time understanding it, and I'd like to have some tips how to make her feel better whenever she feels down.

>>7248470
greentext pls

>>7248470
did he make you brownies?

finally seeing a psychologist that can prescribe hrt, but i have to see him for a while before he will do that
he mentioned having me draw a picture of what i want to look like
has anyone else had to do this?
i dont have good drawing skills and i really dont know what he wants out of this

>>7251245
that's kind of silly and patronizing imo, my psychologist referred me to a doctor on my 1st or 2nd appointment I think

>>7251728
yea, i thought it was weird too, i just want to look like me, but feminine, how am i supposed to draw that?
and he said it would be about 5-10 appointments

>>7251817
idk, that seems like such a weird thing to ask you to do. most people can't draw all that well. do you live somewhere without good access to treatment? maybe you should find a new psychologist, yours sounds like he's gatekeeping

>>7251863
it would be really hard to find a new one, also this one is giving me reduced rates, most people here charge between $150-$200 per appointment, his usual is $190 but he's doing it for $60 because i have little money
he has a lot of experience with trans people too, so idk what to think

>>7246585
Nice thread no trips.

>>7251245
Your doctor is Neolithic. If you go in for a nose job would you have to draw that too? Anyway it's not like expectations will ever match results. This line of thinking makes me scared to request hrt. That because I never crossdressed and not natally homosexual or super 'girly' I don't experience dysphoria.

>>7251817
Sound like he's milking you for them insurance dollars. Totally gatekeeping.

>>7252675
>>7252661
i really hope all this works out and i get hrt without too much trouble, i dont have many options so if he's gatekeeping i just gotta go with it

>>7252661
>>7253225
don't be idiots. just self-med and come back in a few months. then they'll basically instant clear you because of how """"""""""""dangerous""""""""""""" it is to do alone

>>7251817
>i just want to look like me, but feminine,
Have you told him the that (and the other reasons why it's bad)? I'd hope he wouldn't be crazy enough to base his judgment of you on your willingness to draw a picture, or of what that picture was like, even if any information he may glean from it would be more accurately and clearly delivered just by you talking about it, but then you never can be sure.

>>7255794
>even if any information
especially considering any information

Good evening girls

>>7256342
>rule 1
tisk tisk

>>7255794
ill definitely try to explain it to him and avoid this drawing a picture nonsense
i hope he is reasonable but he has a lot of experience so he might just say he knows what he is doing and insist

>>7258080
Maybe he just wants to see what you want from it? Consider figuring that out in case he asks. He might want to know if you have realistic expectations and what kind of ffs you might want/need. He might want to talk you out of it by saying shit like "having long hair and wearing make up is something guys can do too :^)"

>>7212420
Any of you girls wanna cam with a cis guy?

>>7258898
Chasers get out reeeee

>>7248685
I've been considering permanent andromode after 13mo HRT now.

But tits are hard to hide and I can't make myself talk in anything but girlvoice.

>tfw desperate for love so you settled for a trans girl when you truely want to be with a cis girl
I swear I've been trying to get a cis gf for 6 months but none of the girls I find attractive seem to be available, into trans girls, or find me attractive

god I wish I wasn't so picky

>>7260968
are you going primarily based on looks or are you more looking for people you can really make a connection with
i think finding someone your can truly give your heart to is much more important than looks and whether or not they are cis

>>7212420
i need more of this

>>7260987
Not that anon but agreed. Compatibility is so much more important, looks come second so long as you find someone you connect with deeply.

>>7260987
it's sort of like, I'm trans and I'm dealing with my own trans issues, I don't want to be dealing with someone else's trans issues on top of that, especially since she just started HRT. I don't want to define myself by my trans-ness and I want to be with someone i can just be sort of "normal" with. I've always wanted a cis girlfriend rather than a trans girlfriend because I feel more of a connection with cis girls than I do with trans girls. I don't want my relationship to revolve around trans-ness and I feel like unless I'm with a trans girl who is at the stage of transition I'm at or farther I won't be able to get that. I'm nearly 3 years HRT and I just want to be done with being trans and just be like "oh yeah, and I have a dick". I just kinda want to be a normal lesbian and I know that sounds kindof bad but I... I don't really know how to put it.

>>7260987
Exactly this.

You ought to know better, given that your unusual experience in life should have taught you that we're all going to be ugly in the end either through age or some other happenstance.

Find someone who makes you smile and has flaws you can learn to live with.

>>7261035
your life doesnt revolve around being trans unless you decide it does
you can be "normal" with a trans girl just as easily as you can a cis girl
its all about how you think about things

>>7261092
maybe it is an attraction thing, but I would highly prefer a cis girl over a trans girl

Meeting other MtFs by chance at work is the worst thing ever. I try to smile at them then otherwise not look at them any more than I do anyone else but I always either get glares or extreme discomfort in return.

Is there any way to interact at all that isn't so painfully awkward? I mean shit.

>>7261174
just gotta not do anything
treat them exactly the same as anyone else
nothing else you can do
if they still are glaring or uncomfortable its all on them

>>7261092
You can. But potentially your trans girl partner might make her life revolve around being trans and drags you into it.

>LGBT friendly that I met through Tinder a while ago while I was in a different country. Just 2 months on hormones then. We also went on dates

> Going back there in December, we still talk and she discusses about going on dates again and says she wants to celebrate it with me. Just me.

> Now 16 months on hormones and 2 months shy of vaginaplasty

What are the odds she wants to ''feed the birds'' and how do I avoid it (because nothing works, lol)

>>7260895
>I can't make myself talk in anything but girlvoice.
Do you mean it's physically impossible (or at least too difficult), or that just can't bring yourself to do it?

>>7262927
The latter. It freaks me the hell out the few times it does slip so bad.

I want to just go full androgynous so I can not be stressed and anxious all the time but getting it right is frustrating.

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Why would somebody not want an older daddy bf?
Who would adore you.

am i the only one whos been getting hit on a lot by cis girls since starting to transition?

i think they thought i was a gay boy before.

>>7264803
this is obviously ideal..

>>7264803
idk I think I would prefer a guy closer to my age..

>>7265323
agreed, i want someone i can share my life with, not someone who has already lived 10-15 more years of theirs than i have
you cant share your experiences together with someone like that the same way you can with someone your own age

-who should i go to for chin and jaw and brow
-how do i start the process and wait list
-its gonna take me a year to put together around 12k, can i cover the rest with credit?

>>7239604
what?

>>7265397
the person in mexico who takes cash.

>>7238106
I have always been rather emotionally distant. I've never had a proper girlfriend, except one online gf I Skyped with a few times. Even then, the excitement I felt still felt like I was numb, no matter what I did.
Cut to now, beginning transition, realise I have a massive schoolboy crush on this guy at work and just the thought of us holding hands and snuggling up as we watch a film on the sofa, and kissing him on the cheek.

I wish I could literally bottle up my emotions and save that one for a rainy day.

>>7265397
Depends on where you live, and your budget.

>>7265323
but an older guy can be like your dad, and let you experience things, and so on.

I won't have similar experiences to somebody my own age anyway.

>>7268136
my dad is fucking retarded and gross why would i want a bf like him

>>7268192
It's straight, and it worships it's straight cuck dad, it doesn't understand that there are real people out there who don't sniff their dad's alpha underwear.

>>7268192
Why would you seek for an older guy like your dad then?

That's like saying your brother is an ass, and you wouldn't want a bf like him.

>>7261106
I'd prefer a supermodel gf but I can be just as happy with an average gf.
It might not be 100% your top choice in the matter, but it can still be great

>>7271621
i dont think looks mean too much, its all about who they are for me

>>7271646
But if you had two people with objectively identical personalities, you'd probably go for the better looking one

>>7271740
im going to go for who ever i connect the most with

>>7271740
yeah i agree with you
>two people with objectively identical personalities
does not exist imo

>>7271829
whoops meant to quote >>7271788

>>7271829
yea, i agree, especially if they look different, their personalities are going to inevitably changed by that

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I want a bf ;_;
So much pain

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Don't die, come on...

>>7275873
then just get one? it doesn't take any effort if you pass

>>7279178
Even pretty cis girls have difficulties findings bfs.

>>7279493
/r9k/ sure doesnt think so

>>7279493
lmao

For those of you who don't pass yet/won't pass:

How do you hide your boobs aside from sports bras? They're uncomfortable as fuck and I've found a couple of creative alternatives but I'd love to hear any one else's methods.

>>7280308
why are they so uncomfortable for you?

>>7279549
>>7280262
Because they think girls should be satisfied with fugly, fat, short men, who have no drive for self-improvement or had any success in anything in life.

Or a guy who only wants sex.

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What does /tgg/ think of this book?

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>>7280308
>hiding your boobs
Why?

You'll pass eventually, don't worry about it. And you should be encouraging guys to stare at 'em. Wear tee shirts with designs on the chest, wear long necklaces that sit right between your boobs. You need to practice saying "eyes up here" in a snarky tone, it'll come in handy when you pass (which you will!)

>>7283750
why do you want guys to focus on your boobs?

>>7283790
So you can embarrass low-status men and make the situation awkward for them, making yourself seem more powerful and unobtainable. It's a power-play obviously, and it's worked since the beginning of time.

>>7283750
I dunno it's just a weird thing where I'm more confident and relaxed when they're covered up in some way and since I'm more confident and relaxed I pass a little better?

I've been fond of wearing scarves/pashminas/shawls to cover up in a stylish way.

I don't know why I even bother since I make no effort to not girlvoice or avoid feminine posture/behaviors but...I don't know.

>>7284104
Scarves are great for covering up the ol' Adam's apple. Hijabs are even better. I'm a Musim, so, :p lol

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>>7284198
Yes, and soft scarves are just the best! But...I don't know what I'm going to do come the summer again.

>>7239300
>25
>working but essentially a NEET
>college dropout twice over
>depressed
>functioning now but had a suicidal episode a couple months ago where I nearly lost my job and held a loaded gun to my head multiple times a day for a few weeks straight
>literally the only people who know I'm trans are other trans people I know over the internet
I'm pretty sure I have a lot of the same feelings.
Hopefully you're not also stupidly and broad-shouldered like me.

>>7285707
love you anon, i feel you, not in all aspects, but i feel you

>>7283229
>ignoring suitors because you have very strict standards is the same as "having difficulties finding bfs"
ayy lmao

Curious, has anyone else ever had trouble with throat congestion that seems to not be caused by anything in particular that never goes away?

I've had it for over a month now. It's not like I'm sick, it's completely clear when I spit it out. It's getting to be really frustrating since it hamstrings me trying to talk.

Has anyone in europe ever ordered bicalutamide ? and if yes, where... I'm thinking alldaychemist but I can't for some reason I block whenever I have to

>>7286292
>he considers that very strict
Jesus christ anon get your shit at least like 25% together. Most of us would probably be fine with somebody who has a dead-end job, no career prospects, plays video games and watches anime in his free time. Just like, fucking wash. And put down the fork

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Ugghh.... 2 things

1) So I'm now two months on hormones, initially I was taking 100 mg Spiro and 4 mg Estradiol everyday, a few weeks ago I bumped to 200 mg Spiro w/ 4 mg Estradiol a day, and then I couldn't source Estradiol any longer and switched to 4 mg Estradiol Valerate. My skins cleared up, I cry more, feel less dysphoria, are more in touch with emotions,body is more sensitive to touch, feeling fat redistribution start (sore and sensitive nipples), change in type of sex drive (not direct increase/decrease), ass is slightly more feminine. How is my dosage going (I plan on going to see a real doctor soon, I found a local informed consent clinic so I can d real medication)? How am I comparing up to expected changes? Is it normal to have lost 15 pounds?

2. Weird social situation with a cute str8 bicurious boy. He solicited me for a blowjob (I'm not really out as trans at college atm), I was totally down b/c I'm a whore, we message a bit, he invites me to his room, I come in, he's a little high, clearly nervous, and kicks me out after a few minutes. I really want that D, and I think the only thing stopping that is his nerves, but I don't want to pressure him at all, and he isn't responding to my messages enthusiastically, so I've just kinda' am not talking him, but i don't want to ignore our interaction. What do?

thnx, have a lovely thanksgiving

>>7286663
It's like you're actually trying to catch a disease lol

How can I accept that I will never actually pass? Can I get used to it and still feel somewhat happy or will I grief for the rest of my life?
Are there even any unpassing woman here who didn't kill themselves yet? How much hatred do you experience in your everyday life?

>>7286798
how vain are you?

>>7286782

Yes

>>7286803
6'1, huge shoulders and ribcage, manface with balls chin and huge nose, size 11 shoes should I continue?

>>7286823
The difference between those that pass and those that don't isn't luck or genetics, it's willpower.

If you need $100,000 worth of surgery to look convincingly female, then get to work.

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>>7286823

None of that is a death sentence

>>7286832
FFS isn't magic unfortunately, and because of depression and social anxiety and me being trans I doubt that I will ever get a job that allows me to earn that much money in my life time.

>>7286841
I won't post my face in here but it is.

>>7286852

I'm skeptical of all of that, but passing is overrated anyway, you can still be qt and attractive w/o passing, you can be successful economically and socially w/o passing, passing is only one aspect to a very big world

>>7286852
>excuses
you clearly don't want it badly enough

>>7286862
That's what I was asking for. Is this really possible? I don't think I can be attractive let alone qt, but is it really possible to learn to live with it and be kind of confident or is it just useless?

>>7286864
I want to but it's hard to not give up completely.

>>7286908

It really is a harder to not pass, I don't pass, and I guess my perception is a bit skewed, but living life as a college sex thing with a job is exactly what I'm doing right now. Being trans isn't easy, especially off-campus, but it isn't impossible, and with the right confidence, you can go p. much anywhere in most cities during the day

>>7286937
Thank you. Unfortunately, I don't have any confidence nor do I live in a place where LGBT people are mostly tolerated.
How do you manage to not give up?

>>7286959

I am fueled by an unhealthy amount of sex and a desire to be academic and have lizards, I'd reccomend moving to a liberal city if I were you

>>7286970
I never had sex, but my sex drive if almost nonexistent anyways and I don't think anyone would want to have sex with me either.
Yeah I should move, but I don't have any money

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How are you supposed to have sex without a vagina?

I literally cannot imagine a situation where it'd be sexy, or even working, when having a dick.
It will seriously be impossible to have sex and be sexy when having a dick, I will be so disgusted by the thought of what a potential bf would have to look at.

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Anybody have any music that kind of makes them feel less worthless when they go through dysphoria patches?

I'm post-transition, but sometimes something stupid happens and I feel like digging a hole and dying in it.

I have this to contribute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VJBBUqr1wM

>>7287708
That is the most dysphoria inducing music video, and been that for a very long time.

>>7287819
I more like the song than the video.

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>>7287708
>helping clean the house for thanksgiving
>take a break, watch the video you posted
>bawl my fucking eyes out
I haven't cried like that in a long time. God dysphoria is terrible

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>came out to parents
>explain everything to them, incl. pronoun, hormones, etc.
>we support and love you!
>2 months into moans
>clerks ma'am me on occasion, feeling good and androgynous
>visit home for thanksgiving.
>parents call me a guy on every possible occasion, compliment only masculine features and disparage feminine ones
for what purpose

>>7288583
Were there other family members around that haven't heard of what happened?

I swear that going into the more popular certain version of this thread left me with a disease on the way out.

>>7287708
I can't get over that shit-tier music, no effect on me anon.

>>7288613
Well that's what you get for setting foot in the dump dummy.

>>7288611
No, it was just immediate family and I'm out to all of them. I could have understood if aunts/uncles/cousins were around or something

State your thoughts about this. >>7287551
I can't be the only one thinking a lot about it, and seeing the issues.

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>>7289226
That's an interestingly damn hard question.

assuming your ideal bf is 100% straight, there would be problems with this, since male genitals then become unappealing. A solution perhaps would be to find someone that is bicurious. There are actually people who prefer MTFs due to various reasons.

Also, i have a question; What would a mtf think of dating someone who thinks the perfect partner is a male with a womans body?
My reasoning is most women are uninteresting for me aside from visual attraction and i get along with men better.

>>7286456
All the time, I just got really proficient at discretely hacking it up but maybe try an antihistamine?

>>7287708
I made a dysphoria playlist full of Red House Painters, HANL, Anathema, Neurosis and Deftones, doesn't really lift the spirit but it makes me feel okay about feeling shit.

>>7289358
>gets along with men better.
are you AGP?

>>7289372
That's what I've been doing. It helps, but relying on it sucks. I just wish I knew why it's happening. I kind of wonder if girlvoice causes it or it's a side effect of Spiro.

>>7289358
How do you get along with men better?

I can't into male bonding. I don't socialize well with them.

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>>7289511
AGP? I'm sorry, i don't know that term.

>>7289541
It's hard to explain properly but mainly by talking about common interests, starting a conversation on common ground. I just dislike the chemistry when talking with females.

It feels like i'm forcing myself to get along somehow, where as with males it goes perfectly.

I think that if you can't get into male social behaviour then try to reflect on yourself if you want to socialize with men or women, and whether the problem lies within you or them.

>>7289358
>A solution perhaps would be to find someone that is bicurious.
Don't want a guy who has taken dick from another man.
And I don't want a closeted trans bf, who then wants to transition. I would cut contact and be really mad about that.

>There are actually people who prefer MTFs due to various reasons.
For grotesque reasons... Like your own.

>What would a mtf think of dating someone who thinks the perfect partner is a male with a womans body?
Just find a masculine woman...
Go to some workshop, or car modification store or whatever, and find a masculine gf there.

>>7289648

AGP = Auto gyno philia

A somewhat derogatory denoting the state of being sexually aroused with being female.

Really useless term like 'hon' that needs to be dropped asap imho.

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>>7289675
>Don't want a guy who has taken dick from another man.
I said bicurious, not bisexual. Anyway, Taking this logic and turning it around, do you think a completely straight man would want a girl who used to be a man? Upon discovering this i think the guy would also cut contact and be really mad about it.

I'm trying not to sound like an asshole but you gotta work with what you can realistically get.

>For grotesque reasons... Like your own.

My reasoning might be flawed but im just playing with thoughts. From experience i see men and women behaving very differently. i get along with men better. By working with that i think that dating a mtf would be worth a shot.

>Just find a masculine woman

Even if the woman looked like man, she wouldn't be a man on the inside, would you agree? It wouldn't work.

>>7289701
I'm pretty comfortable with being my male self. lol

>>7221801
what site did you order from?

>>7289748
Well, your opinion is pretty much worthless.

I was actually asking mtfs, not some dumb aspie guy.

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>>7289851
That's ok.

Try to work on your behavior, friend.

>>7289748
> i get along with men better. By working with that i think that dating a mtf would be worth a shot.

MtFs aren't men you troglodyte. Expecting them to act or socialize like one is going to really disappoint you.

>13mo HRT
>Have small boobs
>But still have guy nips, only somewhat bigger

When does this change? They keep getting bigger and the nips are starting to look even weirder to me...

>>7290318
They won't. Been on HRT for many years and I still have tiny inverted man nipples. Fml.

>>7290394
Fuck.

:(

>>7287708
https://youtu.be/EsGiBwK4Ycc

>Struggle with alienation your entire life
>Decide to try and be a part of cooking Thanksgiving dinner, be a part of things for once.
>They all just sit down and eat while you're still cooking.
>Set last thing to finish, quietly leave room and go quiet have a meltdown elsewhere.
>Some time later: "By the way where did anonette go?"

We agreed I'd do my thing after, since I planned things that would be ready super fast.

Seeing them all sitting there, just going ahead. I don't know. I felt hurt and alienated. Again.

And I can't talk to anyone I know about it without sounding like a selfish bitch or them getting worried.

And I feel petty.

At least there's work at 4am.

>>7286663
lol @ that pic

As a fellow self-medder, this is pretty much what my suitcase looks like when I go traveling

>>7289358
>most women are uninteresting for me aside from visual attraction
Holy fuck I hate you so much. I hope you realize you're the reason republicans want to ban trans gals from women's bathrooms.

>>7289701
it's not derogatory

>>7292269

I say somewhat deragatory b/c every older t girl with bad bangs gets called it here, and it has shady origins imo

>>7292269

It's used in an antagonistic way, therefore you generally ignore anyone that says it.

>>7232211
no i live

have an appointment soon, things are good

>>7290950

Sorry to hear that, I hope the best for you in the future

Anyone here been to whitman-walker?

>>7290318
Start lactating. I don't care how, put suction to your nipples. Progesterone helps too. They should get larger, and if they don't they will still be much more sensitive and fun to play with.

>>7304433
I think my face just turned red.

I'll...try and figure that out. Thanks.

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Anyone wanna be a weight-loss partner?
Preferably somebody who likes to talk a bit, and also play games a bit (but no boring ones like CS or overwatch, and only a couple of hours at most a day).

>>7307210
and I forgot to mention.

Not talking about huge amounts of weight loss, but more like, getting your body into shape.
In my case, losing like 6kg fat, and gain as much leg and butt muscle as possible.

>Manly men bfs
manly men want to spread their genes
sorry trannies

>>7307251
wtf i h8 genes now

>>7307309
we all do

I'm ashamed of myself every time I boymode but I'm not confident enough to be myself 100% of the time. I hate this stage.

>>7307210
sure why not what is your steam

>>7291350
lol everyone likes to look at peoples bodies not just agp trannies. its human nature. also, if u want to be like that, i guess cis lesbos should be banned from womens room too

>>7308188
Oh, I can't really paste that.

But, you seem somewhat uninterested... No capital letter even.

>>7308213
if we're gonna be honest it would make much more sense to ban gays from the bathrooms, but they are hard to notice and for the regular jow trannies are just big gay guys.

>>7307210
I'd probably be down for it, but my weight loss goals are a bit more than yours.

don't worry
be happy

Are support groups at all a good place to make friends in?

>>7309765
depends how you qualify "good". it's easy as hell to make friends there, yes, but they might not be friends you keep for very long.

>>7309779
>but they might not be friends you keep for very long.
Oh, I see.
I want some local friends, I have none, I thought maybe a group like that would be a good idea.

How the fuck are you supposed to know for sure? I hate going through this cycle of thinking I'm for sure trans, to thinking I just have an AGP fetish, to being perfectly alright staying a guy. I honestly wish sometimes that my feelings stayed as strong as they would at their strongest because then I would never have any periods of doubt.

>>7310620
During those periods of doubt remind yourself how you feel when you're sure. Remind yourself that it is normal for dysphoria to come and go. Remind yourself that it WILL come back even if it's gone right now.

>>7310677
I do know that it's normal for the feelings to come and go but at the same time I think I'm moreso worried about my feelings themselves being conflicted if that makes sense. On the one hand I do see a lot of signs and similarities in myself when reading a lot of other trans narratives and have had feelings going back to childhood. However, I'm missing a couple important ones. I can still look in the mirror without being horribly disgusted at having a male body and it's always been male role models that I've looked up to and tried to model myself after. I know you're right and that dysphoric feelings will keep coming back, but at the same time I don't think it's right to shake off all doubt and go for it just yet.

>>7310794
Not that anon but you're me. I feel like that a lot in a week, esp being intoxicated or not. See a therapist. I'm about to attempt to bring it up to a professional tomorrow.

So should I just kill myself now or try to repress and kill myself later? Serious question

>>7310620
>>7311353
Get on 'mones and come back to see us.

>>7308220
you sound kind of obnoxious desu

>>7310794
>>7310620
Do you want to be female for the rest of your life, in all situations?
Then trans.

After that it's just about considering the feasibility of a successful transition.

>>7308511
How much weight are you looking at? I guess it doesn't matter all that much either way.

What kind of games do you like?
What things would you like to talk about?

>>7312217
>Do you want to be female for the rest of your life, in all situations?

I know questions like this get asked a lot but they're never really easy to answer. Even if every waking thought I've ever had was related to transness, what if it's all just a case of the grass being greener and I'm just romanticizing what life as a woman would be like?

>>7313360
At some point you need to stop worrying what-if and go ahead and see how you feel on hormones and such.

>>7313360
thats the very nature of transness havent u read the wikihow on how to transition :3? If u crossdream about the grass being greener, go where the grass is greener and it will be!!!!!

>>7313360
Are the reasons you want to be female things they actually have better? If you just want to transition because women have life easier or whatever then you have a point, but if things like having a feminine appearance, being referred to/thought of as female by others, and in general things that don't inherently have any benefit are appealing to you, then you'd be hard pressed to put it down to a "grass is greener" mentality.

Also, I'd think that while one may feel it would be better to be the opposite sex for extrinsic reasons, they would be unlikely to actually feel dysphoria over their current sex even then (in the same way you wouldn't feel dysphoric about not being able to be a millionaire or something; it would be nice but isn't really necessary to being happy).

>>7309793
It's probably worth a try at least, who knows you might get lucky.

>>7314133
>Are the reasons you want to be female things they actually have better?

No, not really. I'm assuming you mean if I would want to transition because I think women have it easier getting jobs, getting treated nicer etc. After thinking it over I will say that in the past few weeks since coming to terms with the very real possibility I might be trans, my depression only seems half as bad as it usually does.

just got my first appointment with the therapist, what will she ask about? what am i supposed to talk about? help

>>7220949
>meet girl
>be nice

congrats

How much should I save up to see a therapist for approval and to get hrt?

>>7317994
Also whats the likelyhood of being rejected by the therapist?

>>7317999
What country you're in is very important

>>7318057
I'm in the states

>>7318082
then the state is even more important

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Does she pass, ladesses? >>7318099

>>7318126
Ed Byre is a tranny now?

>>7318126
the important question is, does she actually post here

>>7318333
Probably not, but she used to post on /pol/. No, really. And not as an attention whore. Well, actually as a bit of an attention whore. But she wasn't lewd. She was strictly against degeneracy and wanted to be a moral housewife to a strong, handsome British fascist that rejected Jerrcucking.

>>7318126
>shaggy lad wearing his mum's glasses.exe

>>7318126
Nope.
Really thick neck, and "tranny voice".

>>7307210
Hey I'm totally down I'd love to get back in shape and get toned, I want my belly button to get stretched out again, I'm trying to lose like 8-10 pounds

Got me a referral to an endo. Can't believe 'mones are finally on the way. Almost doesn't feel real.

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I think my desire for SRS is flaring up again. Qt this point i think i understand the main things that trigger it. Clothes not fitting my crotch, the inability to go to the gym, and thoughts about long term relationships.

Are these good enough reasons? I use my dick apl the time and recently i've realosed it can be pretty lucrative. I just wish i could fit in perfectly woth cis women and my dick and voice are all the stands out.

Can anyone relate?

Thinking of buying a home IPL/laser kit since I always get really bad rash/ingrown hairs from shaving frequently.
Anybody have experience? Found one for $450 with good reviews, but idk

>>7324600
Going to a clinic wouldn't be that much more expensive, would it? And that would have the advantage of better equipment and trained operators (more effective and safer).

>>7322674
How do we get in contact though?
I don't wanna drop my skype.

>>7324600
Home kits are like expensive epilators, that have a limited life span.
They do not remove hairs permanently.

They'll burn the hair to the point where the follicle will drop the hair, but the follicle itself doesn't get damaged.

So try with an epilator first, but I think they can be a bit rough, and I don't know if they'll really decrease your ingrowns.

>>7323445
I get it mostly from thinking about sexual things.
I can't imagine how it would work out, I'd feel disgusting, and my then bf would probably be disgusted too.

Not entirely done with transition yet, so I don't really bother with tucking, as I don't present typically female. Though just some tighter underwear will usually flatten it fairly well, since I'm not exactly "well endowed", and I don't wear too tight pants/jeans.

But... the quality of SRS is pretty terrible.
Chance for a good vagina, but since I'd go with national health care quality, it'd probably turn out bad.
Besides, with a vagina, I'm even more competing against cis girls, and there's pretty much no reason a guy would want a neo-vagina instead of a real vagina, and want a girl without any masculine features over one with some.
So, leaning towards not wanting it... But it's still really lucrative.

>>7288583
Same here senpai, at this point I don't even care, I only go home for like 2 weeks a year tops anyway, they also get pissy if I wear feminine things, but whatevs, I stay inside my old room all day anyway.

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I hate having to ask this, since I understand it's a personal thing, but how do the trannies of 4chan feel about SRS?
It's just that every other tranny I meet irl seems so fixated on it like it's the only thing to completely transition, but I already feel gross with boitits and my disproportionate body, and I can't think of SRS as anything but a surgeon just opening a hole in your crotch that you have to make sure stays open, I don't want my penis either and it makes me feel gross as well, but I don't have to shell out a full year's salary to maintain it, and it doesn't freak me out as much.

>>7324734
I don't really have any available clinics nearby as I live in a fairly rural area and don't have much transport available. Also, since I'd need to keep using it whenever my hair came back, it probably ends up being cheaper in the long run. Maybe.
>>7324805
I'd always heard epilators shouldn't be used on your face? Since that's my main problem, I'd like to make sure whatever I go with works well.
If I'm wrong though, I have no problem with the pain so long as my hair is gone after.

>>7329204
DON'T USE AN EPILATOR ON YOUR FACE

Not unless you want permanent removal to be less effective.

>>7328523
I'd rather have a partially-functioning penis over whatever mess SRS gives you, but I'm sure someone will say that just makes me an AGP fetishist.

>>7328523
Because safety and comfort. For me, it would just make my entire life less complicated. I wouldn't even necessarily have sex with it, I would just feel way safer and less dysphoric. I can't even dance in the club or go in the jacuzzi without worrying about this shit and it's getting old

>>7328480
Jeeze are you me? Thanksgiving and Christmas awkwardly coexisting and the rest of the year politely pretending that the other doesn't exist.
>>7329266
Why would it make electrolysis or something less effective? Not doubting, just curious. Something to do with the follicles?

>>7328523
I would love to have it done, but with my income I'll have to settle for just an orchie. Having my guy parts is definitely a source of some dysphoria although not too large of one, so if I can at least get the testes removed I'd probably be okay.

>>7289226
>>7328523
I'm... lets see 8 years on estrogen now? Been with guys and girls.

Mostly attracted to guys but only date girls.

Why? Cus SRS is horrible. It's a fucking axe wound "cosmetically" carved into your body. No matter how "advanced" the surgery gets it will never be the real thing, or even close. I don't really like what I have, but it works properly, its clean, and it doesn't straight up make me want to kill myself.

I get dysphoric to the extreme whenever I do anything sexual with a guy past kissing/my breasts/oral on him. To the point of suicidal thoughts.

So yeah I just deal with it. I fuck bitches and don't pay it any mind. AGP labels be damned.

>>7328523
srs is something I need
i dont think its some end all be all to transition but personally I despise my dick and it impedes so much of my life, not to mention looks really jarring on my otherwise female body, and I constantly feel dysphoric whenever I see or feel it. i cant really enjoy sex with a dick, and tucking is such a huge hassle that I have to deal with every day and makes stuff like swimming difficult. also like the other anon said, I'd feel safer with it gone. It's really scary that there's a chance someone in my boyfriend's family could accidentally walk in on me getting dressed and compromise my life or even get me killed. at least I dont have to worry about paying for it, just waiting.

>>7329300
Yes, it will fuck up your follicles. Also thins the hair, making laser less effective.

>>7229734
wait does kratom have health benefits?

>>7328523
I'm somewhat considering it, even through national health care, I'll probably ask to see the surgeon and talk with him.

Yeah, if you're not near a life, and you have so many other issues you have to fix, SRS isn't at all tempting, since there are worse issues than genitalia at that stage.
But, once you get closer, or done with transition... Then genitalia does matter, because you'll be sexual with people.

How are you gonna have sex?
Always spooning, or "doggy style"? Maybe if you're like laying on a tabale and the guy stands, or "riding", you get to at least see him.
Especially "doggy style" seem terribly impersonal, and practically breaks the whole point of sex. While spooning doesn't allow you to see the guy, but at least it's a bit more personal.
In the normal, missionary style, you just can't. Your dick and testies will be in the way, and it'll be terribly disgusting.

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I want an over the top case.

Which one?
I like 1, 3, and 8.

Not being able to get facial hair removal is pretty terrible... I'm probably gonna end up having to kill myself.

>>7330877
They're all tacky and look like tiny granny purses imo.

>>7332812
Is there just no one in the area that provides laser or electro?

>look cis as fuck and super attractive in snapchat filters that make my face more narrow
>will never be able to afford FFS

why am i alive

>>7333076
electro is like $10k

>>7330877
get the one that you like the most
other peoples tastes are almost never going to match up with your own, you'll end up picking something someone else likes instead

>wear brightly colored underwear
>all's normal
>small subtle stain on them by the end of the day
That is disgusting. What sort of diet does everyone stick to for butt health?

>>7335338
I have a terrible stomach.
Try to eat veggies, and fiber, and drink a lot of water.

I can't do it myself, but when I do go a few days eating foods I get rid of a lot of the bloating (like, "brown" bread, cheese and cucumber, and chicken wraps with salad, paprika, and cucumber), and stomach in general works so much better.

>>7335429
>>7335338
ive never had this issue, what do you people normally eat?

>>7335476
I pretty much only eat snacks and the like.

Maybe why my stomach is terrible, but not really, since I didn't have these problems before hormones.

>>7335476
I have at least one fast food meal each day because of work. That's probably not helping my situation and I should probably make lunch at home.

>>7335571
>>7335502
i basically never eat, i have one meal a day and maybe a granola bar
i never leave my house and dont work so maybe thats hard for other people to do
but definitely less snacks and fast food couldn't hurt

how would you feel if you came out to your sister as trans and then told her not to tell anyone because you weren't ready to talk to the rest of your family about it?
then next time you see her she says shes told your dad
i have no friends so she was the only person i felt i could talk to about it and i really wanted someone to talk with about it
now my dad knows and it feels so awkward, she says he's ok with it but i dont know how to act around him now and i cant look him in the eye
he still doesn't know that i know that he knows
my sisters acting like she did me a favor and says i never would of told him, but i just wasnt ready yet

>>7340147
i would not tell her anything else i wanted kept secret

>>7340147
Be prepared, family members will do cunty shit that is usually a good thing for you in the end but very unwelcome and may undermine your trust in them. My grandma outed me to that entire side of the family, without permission or prior warning. I told my mom and she secretly told my dad and didn't tell me he knew for a while. My other grandma told her side of the family, too. Word gets around and there isn't much you can do.
If your family is okay with it, don't hold a grudge against them. They're just acting like normal human beings. Go get closer to your family. Be your dad's daughter. Don't hide yourself away in shame despite them accepting you. They probably want what's best for you and love you.

Drop picks of urselfs

>>7340147
pretty betrayed tbdesu

>>7341973
no

>work with new coworker who I'm like 99% sure is trans
>immediately fall in love because she's pretty cute and gives off a bit of a shy nerdy girl vibe that I'm a sucker for
>if I try to pursue anytihng with her I'll have to play dumb because I'm pre-HRT and destined to be a hon
>knowing my luck she'll be a lesbian while I'm still 150% dude-mode

why exactly is it not good to have an orchi before srs? i'm not going to do srs for a while but having balls is really getting old

>>7349162
I want to know this too. Mine have shrank into near non-existence so I forget they are there, but I'm so tired of Spiro.

>>7349162
Something to do with either too much scar tissue or insufficient skin to create a proper neovağ

new thread
>>7351156